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[QUOTE=Cville;5388833]This is a deep contrast to Tchallas' behavior in the KiB tie-in. Storm might be dead, "push it aside and focus". Space Nakia dies "let me give a rousing speech to people that probably don't even know who I'm talking about". Lol
From my experience, the KiB is the more accurate version.[/QUOTE]
well based upon what redjack said here it actually is consistent. Ororo's loss was hard on tchalla and it weighed deeply on him. he didn't push it aside so I would disagree there. initially I thought he pushed it aside and focused but Mr Thorne corrected the record there:
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145603-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Hadari-Yao-Appreciation-2021/page76[/url]
he even apparently activated his mask to shield from shuri and okoye how much her loss had trouble him.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5388843]well based upon what redjack said here it actually is consistent. Ororo's loss was hard on tchalla and it weighed deeply on him. he didn't push it aside so I would disagree there. initially I thought he pushed it aside and focused but Mr Thorne corrected the record there:
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145603-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Hadari-Yao-Appreciation-2021/page76[/url]
he even apparently activated his mask to shield from shuri and okoye how much her loss had trouble him.[/QUOTE]
Like with Finn in Star Wars, if it has to be explained afterwards it doesn't really count. How would you react if he didnt post one here?
But my point is if Coates had written it, there be at least three or four pages talking about it in flowery prose.
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[QUOTE=Cville;5388854]Like with Finn in Star Wars, if it has to be explained afterwards it doesn't really count. How would you react if he didnt post one here?[/QUOTE]
lololol. im just telling you what the writer said. one of the reasons i didn't like the issue initially was I thought tchalla was shading Ororo. the writer told me I was lying about my interpretation of the issue and set the record straight. he even told me I was the only one who saw the scan in the manner I did lol
that said I took his word on the issue. so with that both depictions, Thorne and coates version of tchalla, are quite consistent.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5388860]lololol. im just telling you what the writer said. one of the reasons i didn't like the is was because initially I thought tchalla was shading Ororo. the writer told me I was lying about my interpretation and set the record straight. he even told me I was the only one who saw the scan in the manner I did lol
that said I took his word on the issue. so with that both depictions, Thorne and coates version of tchalla, are quite consistent.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think he was shading, but I felt he was compartmentalizing. He did the same when Doom killed S'Yan, and threatened Storm. At no point did I feel he was going to stop and wax poetically for a few pages. Lol
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[QUOTE=Cville;5388866]I didn't think he was shading, but I felt he was compartmentalizing. He did the same when Doom killed S'Yan, and threatened Storm. At no point did I feel he was going to stop and wax poetically for a few pages. Lol[/QUOTE]
well by shading I meant, pushing aside and focusing. initially, he seemed very emotionless as it related to her demise because I thought he had pushed it aside. however, redjack corrected me there.
I think he is giving an inspirational speech prior to the big battle. I don't necessarily see it as poetry but hey everyone is entitled to their opinions lol
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5388876]well by shading I meant, pushing aside and focusing. initially, he seemed very emotionless as it related to her demise because I thought he had pushed it aside. however, redjack corrected me there.
I think he is giving an inspirational speech prior to the big battle. I don't necessarily see it as poetry but hey everyone is entitled to their opinions lol[/QUOTE]
I did think he was pushing it aside. So you're not alone in that thinking.
Funny thing is a week later, which is probably a few minutes in their world, Storm is free and teaming up with Thor. Lol
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[QUOTE=Cville;5388879]I did think he was pushing it aside. So you're not alone in that thinking.
Funny thing is a week later, which is probably a few minutes in their world, Storm is free and teaming up with Thor. Lol[/QUOTE]
right?? I know the kid freed the heroes but the issue was such a let down from the first issue for me. a thought a combined thor/storm attack would be more impressive than that.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5388896]right?? I know the kid freed the heroes but the issue was such a let down from the first issue for me. a thought a combined thor/storm attack would be more impressive than that.[/QUOTE]
Right? It was literally just super lightning lol I mean if you're gonna go that route at least make the lightning attack to break through Knulls barrier surrounding the planet.
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[QUOTE=loke13;5389175]Right? It was literally just super lightning lol I mean if you're gonna go that route at least make the lightning attack to break through Knulls barrier surrounding the planet.[/QUOTE]
Are there any scans of Storm teaming up with Thor?
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Yeah, these pages don't do much for a Storm fan...
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[QUOTE=nj06;5389219]Are there any scans of Storm teaming up with Thor?[/QUOTE]
yes Xavier was keeping all the heroes connected as per issue 3. he was assisting Dylan to use knull to free the heroes. upon freeing them, the heroes were working together to attack knull and his army. when it was finally thor and storm's turn we got this:
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complete let down on what could have been epic.
[QUOTE=loke13;5389175]Right? It was literally just super lightning lol I mean if you're gonna go that route at least make the lightning attack to break through Knulls barrier surrounding the planet.[/QUOTE]
right now that would have been cool.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5389289]yes Xavier was keeping all the heroes connected as per issue 3. he was assisting Dylan to use knull to free the heroes. upon freeing them, the heroes were working together to attack knull and his army. when it was finally thor and storm's turn we got this:
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complete let down on what could have been epic.
right now that would have been cool.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't it Jean do all the telepathic work this issue?
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[QUOTE=Cville;5389385]Wasn't it Jean do all the telepathic work this issue?[/QUOTE]
no it wasn't. I think some fans just checked in this issue because the xmen were featured. in issue three Xavier tells the heroes he will keep them all connected. he was the one talking to Dylan. jean was taken over in issue one (off panel) but when all the heroes were freed in issue 4 that is when we see her take on knull:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5388748][img]https://weirdsciencemarvelcomics.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_7064.jpg[/img]
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OMG this would be the best thing ever if someone in one of the panels were was like "who?!" Cause that's how I felt. Like we fighting for whom. Lol
This just looks like trash sorry. Even the speech. like most the heros in the panels ain't even from wakanda. Thank black history month it's almost over
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[QUOTE=Cville;5389385]Wasn't it Jean do all the telepathic work this issue?[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought too but it could very well still be Xavier then jean took over bit for mental purposes I'm just sticking with jean did it. Shows how much of a jumbled mess this event has been.
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If that isn't a classic example of what pretentious writing is...
That's so bad. And just proves how very disconnected Coates is from the concept of Wakanda and being Wakandan. (If he was ever connected ,at all).
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5389509]OMG this would be the best thing ever if someone in one of the panels were was like "who?!" Cause that's how I felt. Like we fighting for whom. Lol
This just looks like trash sorry. Even the speech. like most the heros in the panels ain't even from wakanda. Thank black history month it's almost over[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm pumped. seeing all marvels black heroes working together to save wakanda is amazing and our girl storm is about to show out!!! can't wait for these next few issues!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5389512]That's what I thought too but it could very well still be Xavier then jean took over bit for mental purposes I'm just sticking with jean did it. Shows how much of a jumbled mess this event has been.[/QUOTE]
no it defintely wasn't jean. like I said issue 3 established it was Xavier who connected all the heroes. Reed asked Xavier if the heroes somehow lost connection would Xavier step in and he obliged. saying otherwise would be to purposefully ignore that statement and issue 3 which lead to issue 4. did you read issue 3 by the way? Jean is not mentioned once there lol.
that said I the event definitely fell flat for me. was hoping when storm finally got out we would see her cut loose but yea, no that didn't happen lol.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5389289]yes Xavier was keeping all the heroes connected as per issue 3. he was assisting Dylan to use knull to free the heroes. upon freeing them, the heroes were working together to attack knull and his army. when it was finally thor and storm's turn we got this:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/BlvEbm1uNoR4vwBIJV0Pebgo8XPZwb28tfi2dd8edbKIXMwVMiiu9WcGUmhTsfK6MG5MYCMpckjQARi2kkUUm3Nnm7mHuB6dMtUZUnNz0i1U0F6qch0cWA-GwT7dlsWGqp04v3-v7g=s1600[/img]
complete let down on what could have been epic.[/QUOTE]
That is rather under-whelming. Storm could have pulled off this feat by herself.
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To be fair, they are essentially destroying almost all the symbiotes that had taken over NYC in one strike(after Namor's wave collected them). The page doesn't do it justice. This whole KIB story has been messy, but I'll give Cates a tinsy bit of respect for the audacity of it all. It's wild he pulled off a company wide story about symbiotes. Meanwhile Coates's space opera he's been telling for years still isn't finished, and he's been teasing [I]one[/I] single symbiote villian(Killmonger) as his big finale....
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[QUOTE=nj06;5390052]That is rather under-whelming. Storm could have pulled off this feat by herself.[/QUOTE]
yea it was very underwhelming. I love the idea of the both using their lightning to break through the symbiote barrier that had encased the earth. that would have been epic.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5390081]To be fair, they are essentially destroying almost all the symbiotes that had taken over NYC in one strike(after Namor's wave collected them). The page doesn't do it justice. This whole KIB story has been messy, but I'll give Cates a tinsy bit of respect for the audacity of it all. It's wild he pulled off a company wide story about symbiotes. Meanwhile Coates's space opera he's been telling for years still isn't finished, and he's been teasing [I]one[/I] single symbiote villian(Killmonger) as his big finale....
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I'm wondering how the orisha play into this. I saw a scan where they are collectively doing something their powers a while back. and baby guess what? I got my lipstick and ready. I will see you girls in the ladies room...
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[QUOTE=nj06;5390052]That is rather under-whelming. Storm could have pulled off this feat by herself.[/QUOTE]
Ummm they are trying to kill a celestial level God. No time for half measures. If thor is present it makes perfect sense for him to be doing his thing too.
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lmfao you are a mess honey!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5390117]lmfao you are a mess honey![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Toonstrack;5390112]Ummm they are trying to kill a celestial level God. No time for half measures. If thor is present it makes perfect sense for him to be doing his thing too.[/QUOTE]
I think the point is not to say thor isn't needed (which for what was shown i don't think so) but for an attack where both storm and thor did one would expect it to look more impressive than that.
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yes girlie. Coates is about to shut it down as he has been since the hadari yao stepped onto the scene!
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That remains to be seen.
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[QUOTE=Toonstrack;5390112]Ummm they are trying to kill a celestial level God. No time for half measures. If thor is present it makes perfect sense for him to be doing his thing too.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100% and its nice seeing Storm work together with Thor and Namor. Still though, this particular feat just doesn't impress me much.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5390129]I think the point is not to say thor isn't needed (which for what was shown i don't think so) but for an attack where both storm and thor did one would expect it to look more impressive than that.
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I see. As an aspiring artist what would make this sorta thing more visually interesting? It was all going into one point at the epicenter... maybe a wider shot? More bolts?
I gotta say this hyped me up pretty good when I read it, but there's always room for improvement. When I look at the splash I see two gods about to being righteous thunder down on em
The lightning coming out of both their eyes is a nice touch
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[QUOTE=Toonstrack;5390132]I see. As an aspiring artist what would make this sorta thing more visually interesting? It was all going into one point at the epicenter... maybe a wider shot? More bolts?
I gotta say this hyped me up pretty good when I read it, but there's always room for improvement. When I look at the splash I see two gods about to being righteous thunder down on em
The lightning coming out of both their eyes is a nice touch[/QUOTE]
well I'm not sure if more lightning is what is required. I think what would have been more impressive was like a chain lightning that extended the entire planet that destroyed the symbiote barrier around the planet with it funneling down to water like the panel from the issue showed. truthfully speaking that bolt as it was drawn could have been done by either storm or thor on their own.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5390130]That remains to be seen.
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he canonized Ororo as an actual goddess it doesn't get any better than that!
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Goddess only when T'Challa tells her she can be [for two minutes to save his country]...
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5390169]Goddess only when T'Challa tells her she can be [for two minutes to save his country]...
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well thats the Xwriters fault not Tchalla's. Ororo just needs to finally embrace her true power and Tchalla has been the one to help her do that.
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[QUOTE=Toonstrack;5390132]I see. As an aspiring artist what would make this sorta thing more visually interesting? It was all going into one point at the epicenter... maybe a wider shot? More bolts?
I gotta say this hyped me up pretty good when I read it, but there's always room for improvement. When I look at the splash I see two gods about to being righteous thunder down on em
The lightning coming out of both their eyes is a nice touch[/QUOTE]
In this case, more lightning, not really. A thicker pillar of one lightning that is magnified by another layer of the lightning colour turning it more like "divine" would have looked more impressive and on the second, as kyss suggested, the lightning could have exploded into powerful chain lightning of thickness that spreads throughout the entire world tearing through the dark veil and burning it down. Now that would have been more impressive and looking better.
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5390221]In this case, more lightning, not really. A thicker pillar of one lightning that is magnified by another layer of the lightning colour turning it more like "divine" would have looked more impressive and on the second, as kyss suggested, the lightning could have exploded into powerful chain lightning of thickness that spreads throughout the entire world tearing through the dark veil and burning it down. Now that would have been more impressive and looking better.[/QUOTE]
that would have been beautiful to see followed by it revealing a sunlit sky. your description was actually what I would have envisioned. one HUGE ASS lightning pillar as you described connected to the sky that spread into a massive chain lightning.
I would have lost it!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5390224]that would have been beautiful to see followed by it revealing a sunlit sky. your description was actually what I would have envisioned. one HUGE ASS lightning pillar as you described connected to the sky that spread into a massive chain lightning.
I would have lost it!![/QUOTE]
It's just my artistic imagination at play here. I am not an artist but if I was, this is how I would have done it.
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[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5390288]It's just my artistic imagination at play here. I am not an artist but if I was, this is how I would have done it.[/QUOTE]
neither am I but in my head the visual would be freaking spectacular.
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I don't know if anyone discussed this yet but the latest episode of Wanda/Vision showed Monica Rambeau manifesting blue eyes when she uses her powers and all I could think about is the injustice that we have never seen a blue-eyed Ororo Munroe in the movies. Praying that will change soon.
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[QUOTE=whitecrown;5390433]I don't know if anyone discussed this yet but the latest episode of Wanda/Vision showed Monica Rambeau manifesting blue eyes when she uses her powers and all I could think about is the injustice that we have never seen a blue-eyed Ororo Munroe in the movies. Praying that will change soon.[/QUOTE]
hey there. I have been discussing on my twitter account and lets just say that topic gotta a bit heated.
nevertheless, we haven't discussed here. I was told they only turn blue when she uses her energy powers but I do find it odd when aspects of ororo that are iconic are ripped and used by other characters. aside from the eyes being blue, you have her signature white eyes with powerr ripped by so many characters. then of course the goddess moniker. I just hope by the time she does appear other things are not ripped in the mcu.
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[QUOTE=whitecrown;5390433]I don't know if anyone discussed this yet but the latest episode of Wanda/Vision showed Monica Rambeau manifesting blue eyes when she uses her powers and all I could think about is the injustice that we have never seen a blue-eyed Ororo Munroe in the movies. Praying that will change soon.[/QUOTE]
I was mad as a hornet! Had her energy sight and everything!
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Damn Fox movies making our girl look 2000 and late!