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In Hickman's original Omega data page he talks about how while Forge is the best mutant at inventing and has no upper limit, he's not an Omega mutant because his inventing is matched or exceeded by other human inventors. So with Storm being an Omega weather manipulator, people are wondering if that implies she's better than Thor. The easiest answer is he doesn't count because he's not human or from Earth.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5315631]In Hickman's original Omega data page he talks about how while Forge is the best mutant at inventing and has no upper limit, he's not an Omega mutant because his inventing is matched or exceeded by other human inventors. So with Storm being an Omega weather manipulator, people are wondering if that implies she's better than Thor. The easiest answer is he doesn't count because he's not human or from Earth.[/QUOTE]
I also do not see Thor as particularly sophisticated in the use of his weather powers (I could be wrong, I don't care that much about Thor lol).
Storm on the other hand (occasionally) uses her power in very complicated and sophisticated ways. Maybe Thor is a powerhouse without any fine tuning, hence, Storm's skills as a weather manipulator are superior.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5315631]In Hickman's original Omega data page he talks about how while Forge is the best mutant at inventing and has no upper limit, he's not an Omega mutant because his inventing is matched or exceeded by other human inventors. So with Storm being an Omega weather manipulator, people are wondering if that implies she's better than Thor. The easiest answer is he doesn't count because he's not human or from Earth.[/QUOTE]
Also, his weather powers are enhanced by his hammer.
[QUOTE=Exodus;5315699]I also do not see Thor as particularly sophisticated in the use of his weather powers (I could be wrong, I don't care that much about Thor lol).
Storm on the other hand (occasionally) uses her power in very complicated and sophisticated ways. Maybe Thor is a powerhouse without any fine tuning, hence, Storm's skills as a weather manipulator are superior.[/QUOTE]
Correct. Thor is sledgehammer and Storm is a surgeon scalpel..
Thor creates weather effects through the magic in his blood, which is enhanced by a Mjölnir. Storm manipulates the weather psionically on a molecular and atomic level.
There are many ways to look at it(hence my original psionic/magic distinction angle).
[QUOTE=yogaflame;5315869]There are many ways to look at it(hence my original psionic/magic distinction angle).[/QUOTE]
So many ways to look at it that it's almost futile to compare the two in terms of power. It might be far easier to differentiate Storm from Thor.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5315999]So many ways to look at it that it's almost futile to compare the two in terms of power. It might be far easier to differentiate Storm from Thor.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I tend to look at Storm as like, an atmospheric chemist in a way, vs innate weather manipulation through divine magic. I think the hammer vs scalpel (though she can be a devastating hammer in her own right) is the fair comparison if one is needed. But at the core of the application of their abilities I think Storm’s connection to the earth combined with her mastery of the how the forces (and physics) behind weather operate (down to their atoms) is the biggest distinction between how their powers operate.
The preview for Marauders # 17 allayed my fears about Ororo and Callisto, but I wonder where Ororo will end up next
yah!!!!
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[COLOR="#000080"]Take into account too that Thor is physically stronger, can take much more damage, nearly invulnerable and is much more a brawler.
Thor and Storm have two different fighting styles and use their powers in accordance with how they fight.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5316077]I agree. I tend to look at Storm as like, an atmospheric chemist in a way, vs innate weather manipulation through divine magic. I think the hammer vs scalpel (though she can be a devastating hammer in her own right) is the fair comparison if one is needed. But at the core of the application of their abilities I think [B]Storm’s connection to the earth combined with her mastery of the how the forces (and physics) behind weather operate (down to their atoms) is the biggest distinction between how their powers operate.[/B][/QUOTE]
Exactatiously.
It's her inherent connection to the world(s) around her (and not just of Earth) that truly separates her abilities from that of Thor's who has none (at least to my knowledge) of her innate psionic connection.
They both control weather phenomena...and that's as far as their commonality extends.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5316077]I agree. I tend to look at Storm as like, an atmospheric chemist in a way, vs innate weather manipulation through divine magic. I think the hammer vs scalpel (though she can be a devastating hammer in her own right) is the fair comparison if one is needed. But at the core of the application of their abilities I think Storm’s connection to the earth combined with her mastery of the how the forces (and physics) behind weather operate (down to their atoms) is the biggest distinction between how their powers operate.[/QUOTE]
agreed windrider with this assessment
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5316378]yah!!!!
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[COLOR="#000080"]Okay, I have a question, multiple choice. Should Storm:
A. Stay on the Quiet Council.
B. Join the Summers/Grey consortium, i.e. the X-Men.
C. Revive her X-Treme X-Men team.
[B]D. Go off on her own and do her own thing.[/B]
She chose D!!!!!!!! [/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5315013][COLOR="#000080"]Again, omega is a classification that only applies to mutants in this instance. All power sources are not the same and we don't know the true extant of Thor's power let alone Storm's. And like Devaishwarya said, Thor has thousands of years of experience and his power level has been upgraded even more in his latest solo.
Believe me, I'm not downplaying Storm's abilities but I don't know why the need to quantify her power based on what Thor can do.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
again there is not a need to do this BUT I think with thor around and as well known as he is for his weather manipulating abilities it makes it difficult to believe that Storm's limit cannot be surpassed by another character such as Thor. I guess if you take the conditions yoga mentioned then it would make sense but these things were not explicitly stated on the data page for the omega classification.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;5316390][COLOR="#000080"]Okay, I have a question, multiple choice. Should Storm:
A. Stay on the Quiet Council.
B. Join the Summers/Grey consortium, i.e. the X-Men.
C. Revive her X-Treme X-Men team.
[B]D. Go off on her own and do her own thing.[/B]
She chose D!!!!!!!! [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
well we don't know exactly what this means yet. she is still on the quiet council as of now. im hoping it all resolves in her choosing d.
If they explored Storm's magical powers more... The databook states Wakandan gods have unlimited strength. So Hadari is supposed to be very strong physical wise but we lack feats.