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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5663043]I will genuinely invest money in a book with these two as the titular charachters the ego is just sooo great it gives me real house wives/ the crown energy.[/QUOTE]
right!!! I wouldn't mind doom being a rogue for storm. it makes a lot of sense especially considering her title now. I think the score count now is 4:1 in storms favor.
Here are some other random moments I like... can you guess why:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663038]I do like the designs of the characters though I haven't played the game. it was just cool to see how her being a real goddess is a thing now. for so long people tried to make the case she wasn't a real goddess, now she sitting at the table with Thor and Odin. who would have ever thought?[/QUOTE]
True. For me, it was easy to tell Ororo was a goddess from the beginning because of the nature of her powers, the details to which she could do things and the extent of what she could accomplish. It is nice to see her get a spot. I know others feel that way about their favorite characters too, when they are shown in positive light or make it into a game.
Im sorry friends im so happy right now. Hickman has truly been a godsend for our beloved goddess. She is literally a QUEEN, OMEGA, and GODDESS. all things we've said for years. such a splendid time to be a storm fan!!!!
[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5663063]True. For me, it was easy to tell Ororo was a goddess from the beginning because of the nature of her powers, the details to which she could do things and the extent of what she could accomplish. It is nice to see her get a spot. I know others feel that way about their favorite characters too, when they are shown in positive light or make it into a game.[/QUOTE]
thats the thing though. her powers and how she debuted she was certainly a goddess at least in the minds of her fellow villagers but that was immediately debunked by xavier. then there were so many stories where she herself affirms that she wasn't a goddess and then her solo even pointed out they knew she wasn't a goddess but a silly girl.
I'm happy that she is finally getting some focus but some fans not too long ago were threatened to be banned from certain sites by insinuating she was a goddess. but look where we are now, we've come so far.
Random but if tchalla and ororo are written accordingly in this new age of mutant progression, it could be beautiful..i really think it could work with her as regent now too but we will see. I do however dont want a marriage or anything like that...atleast until after some good ass stories of grit, love and drama. Its honestly what makes romances for me in literature.
speaking of T'choro...
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E73yDPsXMAUJlsf?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
As Jean and Storm are my two favorite X-Women I usually dont comment on a fight between them but....Uncanny X-Men 270. Really the fight could go either way.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5663193]I swore the book got cancelled due to the New Status quo. And Storm just slip away to BP book to forge a new path ,a move I might add, that has been paying off since. Finally took long enough for the x books to get their act together.[/QUOTE]
wait a minute.... can you offer some tea because I know certain storm fans love to blame hudlin. what was the new status quo then and any interviews that mention this?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5661812]but she did stop doom what are you talking about?
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E71JQl6XoAAhaF-?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
and his profe got the best of him they were all giggles by the end of the issue.[/QUOTE]
Lol the equivalent of pouring cold water on two fighting cats.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663132]speaking of T'choro...
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E73yDPsXMAUJlsf?format=jpg&name=large[/img][/QUOTE]
This is very cute. it warms my heart.They did an amazing job on Storm. Loving that skin tone too.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5663224]This is very cute. it warms my heart.They did an amazing job on Storm. Loving that skin tone too.[/QUOTE]
I know right... the purple draping them both made my heart smile.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663210]lmfao i screamed! not two fighting cats lolol[/QUOTE]
I may have read T'challa's in my Anime voice because that's the energy I was getting from him in that panel. Like Storm broke a sacred code.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5663133]Once again Jean never tanked all this energy. The energy of the shockwave is divided up and released across the universe. I hope you do know a shockwave or shaking the universe isn't even galaxy level. It's multi solar system level. This means the power to destroy multiple solar systems is divided up into billions possibly even more light-years. This means the energy Jean withstand is not quantifiable as she wasn't in the epicenter of it nor is she big as a universe to tank energy enough to destroy multiple solar systems. Even the ship Cyclops and Beast was in withstood a portion of this shockwave. Also take into note none of the planets around it were destroyed which further proves my point about the amount of energy given off.[/QUOTE]
This was way back maybe 30 years ago when Jean was much, much weaker than she is now!
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5663228]I may have read T'challa's in my Anime voice because that's the energy I was getting from him in that panel. Like Storm broke a sacred code.[/QUOTE]
storm was ready for some 1 on 1 time. she didn't have time for their d!ck measuring contest lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663243]storm was ready for some 1 on 1 time. she didn't have time for their d!ck measuring contest lol[/QUOTE]
Right! Like thats whole reason she left the x books in the first place.
And besides Storm's bigger.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5663283]Oh definitely they are the most powerful of all gathered there but according to darkstar storm is the strongest. It's been repeatedly stated over and over in the presence of Rachel and other powerful mutants that storm is the strongest or the most dangerous.... In their battle against xlegion Betsy explicitly states that storm was the most dangerous of all those gathered there and that with her turned against the xmen they have no hope of beating Nathan/David. Afterwards when she is released storm single handedly shows she is indeed the strongest one there by smiting xlegion who was affected. This is followed by Nathan now alone tanking a full on assault from all the xmen sans storm with little to no effort. The xmen included bobby, magneto, Polaris, Meghan.....etc. some of the most powerful beings on the planet together couldn't affect xman alone let alone xman/legion yet storm did...[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I had not read that story.
[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5663277]I believe that statement, which some are so fond of quoting (not saying you but others) was made by cyslops after Jean became Phoenix--and when she was powering up the Stargate to take everyone (storm included) into the shi'ar universe.
Pre-Phoenix I remember this "weakest x-man" Jean holding everyone back with her then much weaker TK power---cyclops included![/QUOTE]
To be frank I always saw it as dumb that jean was considered weaker than angel and beast was just very unrealistic.... But hey it was the 60's. And Charles saying Scott was the most powerful whilst bobby and jean were right there made me laugh.
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5663272]Let me get this straight. Ole girl thought it was a good idea to put Storm in a ball of blackness to trigger a claustrophobic attack? Please tell me Storm didn't just faint or something lame like that.[/QUOTE]
This was early days cluster phobia which was basically there to incapacitate.... To be honest as a writer it makes sense to have storm taken out first as she is powerful enough to make this whole situation ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5663289]Thanks, I had not read that story.[/QUOTE]
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Ororo was indeed wrecking them.
[QUOTE=Mercury;5663191]You're overlooking the fact that she not only flew in hyperspace, but she also flew straight into a WHITE HOLE, which nothing should be able to do.
Additionally, most recently, Jean flung a skyscraper-sized space station out of Mars' orbit. Escape velocity from Mars, which is what she had to achieve and/or exceed to accomplish the aforementioned feat, is approximately 11,251 mph, which is another indicator of the strength of her telekinesis.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E745G7nWYAQEhDo?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
I believe the panel on the bottom left-hand corner clearly shows Binary directing an energy blast straight at Jean, which she is able to shield herself from. She did this while, again, withstanding the force of a white hole. In either case, what she withstood in those panels far exceeds anything she would have to withstand on Earth.
Oh, and she did all of this WHILE being able to telepathically penetrate Binary's mind AND severe her tie to an alien presence.[/QUOTE]
1. I'll make this simple for you. Jean's mass is 110 pounds and moving at the speed of light is 0.5 teratons. It takes 1 teraton to be small country level which means Jean moving at light speed energy output is low end to mid-island level. Hyperspace is 100x-1000x the speed of light. So multiply that by 0.5 teratons and it's still not country level. You know why because Jean has a small mass.
Also, the white hole is basically a star. The white hole is actually a myth but in Marvel, it is presented as a star. As stated flying through a star isn't even city level let alone star level.
2. That feat is fodder compared to the scans you're trying to present about the white hole. First of all the object, Jean Grey threw the object at Magneto who was to the edge of space. We don't have a time frame. I'll high ball and said the object was moving at hypersonic speeds. Which is probably enough to destroy a city block or multiple. Keep in mind if someone of Jean's size moved to the moon at near light speed the energy output would be large mountain level. The object was large must lacked so much speed that the kinetic energy probably wouldn't even destroy a city.
3. There are rays all around Carol and it's shown one-hit Jean. Which means Jean isn't tanking all her power. AKA you still can't quantify that.
[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5663277]I believe that statement, which some are so fond of quoting (not saying you but others) was made by cyslops after Jean became Phoenix--and when she was powering up the Stargate to take everyone (storm included) into the shi'ar universe.
Pre-Phoenix I remember this "weakest x-man" Jean holding everyone back with her then much weaker TK power---cyclops included![/QUOTE]
yes I found it. it was pretty widely known between the xmen she was the weakest xmen before phoenix:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/aF7YlYT4tpPo3tJNWmDkA_1Z5DDDbt-t2UG61sKmTcUeLl-xjV8V4914IfLEq7klQMe2841OsaX9=s1600[/img]
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[url]https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/relativistic-ke[/url]
Here is also a calcuator to calc the amount of energy and speed.
[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5663289]Thanks, I had not read that story.[/QUOTE]
yes I know Jean is your fave and nothing wrong with it but when storm fans make claims of all the crazy stuff she can do its from Canon and not because she is our favorite. I'm not sure why the Jean in space scans were brought in here or what the point was but canoincakky speaking storm has been stayed as being stronger than jean plenty of times across the years.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663195]great point as always. the acanti space lightning was a great feat. also keep in mind she used the power of the sun against a sentinel and of course channeled the power of multiple stars and planets with the galactic core:
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/4TSl50bOCLAMNRe3BOn8sNXf_CBUgagrIP07zHJXFR7YhIYkFAHYZjewlPp95Xtr8ybQYL4V837C=s1600[/img][/QUOTE]
Great point. The only thing quantifiable about the galactic core is that she took enough energy to turn herself into a star. Other than that we would not have a way to measure that. The description isn't too vivid. See if it said something about using the full power of stars and planets. Or something like Sentry having the power of millions of exploding suns it would be different. Since it's stated she turned herself into a star I guess at best it's a large star to maybe solar system level feat.
[QUOTE=Jbenito;5663315][IMG]https://myalbum.com/photo/u3L7DAiX6xeN/360.jpg[/IMG]
Ororo was indeed wrecking them.[/QUOTE]
yes and it was storms powers that was strong enough to actually hurt x-legion. before storm turned the tides the xmen were not winning:
[img]https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/storm-vs-x-man-x-men-disassembled-1.jpg[/img]
[img]https://static3.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Storm-Zaps-X-Man.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=1122&dpr=1.5[/img]
[QUOTE=KLY360;5663339]Great point. The only thing quantifiable about the galactic core is that she took enough energy to turn herself into a star. Other than that we would not have a way to measure that. The description isn't too vivid. See if it said something about using the full power of stars and planets. Or something like Sentry having the power of millions of exploding suns it would be different. Since it's stated she turned herself into a star I guess at best it's a large star to maybe solar system level feat.[/QUOTE]
yes agreed im not sure that the magnitude of the feat can be measured. the energy output from her could be that of a supergiant which is 1500x larger than the sun.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5663313]This was early days cluster phobia which was basically there to incapacitate.... To be honest as a writer it makes sense to have storm taken out first as she is powerful enough to make this whole situation ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Got'cha.
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I'm getting the feeling tomorrow will be another great day for storm and storm fans!!!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663441]I'm getting the feeling tomorrow will be another great day for storm and storm fans!!![/QUOTE]
What is she appearing in? I didn't see anything dropping tomorrow that she would appear in normally.
To clarify, I came in this thread and posted scans of an instance displaying some of Jean’s feats only because Jean was being mentioned here and it was being claimed that Jean couldn’t hold her own against Storm, which she has disproven multiple times. Furthermore, I did not come in here to put Storm down, which isn’t my style. Now, on to some responses.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5663037]Good for her.... Sooooo what should we do with this information?[/QUOTE]
I made my intentions clear in my first post in this thread and have reiterated them above.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663087]hi mercury. your passion and love for jean is one that is very admirable to see. your love for the character is truly fascinating. that said, Jean has had trouble withstanding storms powers before.
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And yet, she withstood them.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5663133]Once again Jean never tanked all this energy...[/QUOTE]
Once again, Jean withstood a direct hit from Binary, as evidenced in the page that I initially posted and which has been quoted a few times already. Honestly, the art could not be [I]any[/I] clearer. She also withstood the forces of a white hole and a blast caused by the Silver Surfer. The mathematics you are attempting to obscure these facts with are impressive, admirable even, but, in the end, do not diminish her feats. Furthermore, they are inconsequential when trying to argue whether or not Jean could withstand Storm’s assaults. If she can withstand what she withstood in space in the pages I have posted, she can withstand Storm’s weather.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5663151]Which means Jean was straining multiple times against energy not even enough to a destroy planet or even a moon...[/QUOTE]
I don’t believe weather can obliterate a planet or moon, though I do believe the energy Jean withstood is stronger than weather.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663152].. were those scans meant to pin these women in a versus??? I was wondering why this suddenly felt like I was in jeans thread. Storm has already commented on Jean's power levels and Jean didn't pass.[/quote]
The scans I posted were meant to clarify how strong Jean’s telekinesis is. Also, prior to posting in here and while perusing this thread and seeing Jean’s name mentioned repeatedly, I started to feel the same. As for Storm’s comment, she says “Jean Grey’s power seems much weaker than usual – I could deal with her easily.” I interpret that statement as meaning that because Jean’s power is “much weaker than usual,” Storm “could deal with her easy.” Let’s keep it cute. Nevertheless, she was dealing with a robot.
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5663166]But this would follow canon, right? Jean was always much weaker than Storm which is why she was given the Phoenix.[/QUOTE]
This is conjecture.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663167]I ignored it too but didn't think someone would seriously come into her appreciation thread to bait her fans lolol.[/QUOTE]
You are seriously mischaracterizing why I chose to post in here.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663176]yes it does. it supports interviews given by Claremont where it was stated phoenix was given to Jean to put her on the power levels of storm[/QUOTE]
References, please. So as not to clog this thread, post them in the Jean thread if you can.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663240]storm had a nanite in her brain and wasn't in full control of her powers. also the writer wrote her as if she could hurt herself with her lightning which she is immune to. its clear Taylor wsnt quite knowledgeable on ororos abilities.[/quote]
How convenient.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663240]I think a better showing would be giant size. ororos mental defenses was able to stave off jean an omega and Emma at the same time:[/QUOTE]
Storm had a “machine virus” in her brain and wasn’t in full control of her defenses. Based on the art, it seems that some of those “defenses” originated with said virus and were not all due to Storm’s mind. Nevertheless, Jean did break through those defenses to save Emma twice, after which they both fought against and blew away those defenses:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7WuvA6WQAAc8lQ?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7WuvyiWEAMTqd3?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663271]I think pre phoenix at least it was pretty much clear jean was the weakest xmen. didn't colossus or cyclops even state that she was the rakes xman before the Phoenix?[/QUOTE]
It was not “pretty much clear” that Jean was the weakest X-Man. I think you’re referring to the first time she was referred as such by Claremont, in which case I can use the same defense you did regarding Taylor’s writing of Storm. To paraphrase you, It’s clear [Claremont] wasn’t quite knowledgeable of Jean’s abilities.
For those interested, please read through this thread, which includes screenshots, covering the first 137 issues of X-Men and giving an overview of Jean’s power development. It is clear that she and Iceman were the strongest members of the original team.
[url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1407079233021689865[/url]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663326]...it was pretty widely known between the xmen she was the weakest xmen before phoenix:[/QUOTE]
Again, please see the Twitter thread a posted a link to above. You have cited one quote Claremont wrote Scott thinking and my defense – echoing your own, mind you – as stated above stands.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663335]yes I know Jean is your fave and nothing wrong with it but when storm fans make claims of all the crazy stuff she can do its from Canon and not because she is our favorite. I'm not sure why the Jean in space scans were brought in here or what the point was but canoincakky speaking storm has been stayed as being stronger than jean plenty of times across the years.[/QUOTE]
I’ve already clarified why I posted those scans: Because Jean was being mentioned, by you even, before I even decided to reply. Also, the claims I make of Jean’s powers and abilities are based on canon and I have the scans to back up those claims.
These will be the last scans of Jean I post in this thread. They depict Jean sans the Phoenix Force and, per Jordan D. White, are considered canon and feats Jean is still capable of doing.
Jean blowing away a group of Silver Surfers:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7EJuAjWUA8tINs?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1418926075430809606[/url]
Jean slamming Gladiator:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E48nqQPXMAAP0v_?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1409389834418929666[/url]
Jean knocking Galactus:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7z8_C3XMAIE9_O?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1422290107378421767[/url]
And, of course, Jean recently raided the mind of an ancient symbiote god [I]and[/I] discovered the Enigma Force, i.e., for all intents and purposes, God.
[url]https://screenrant.com/jean-grey-king-black-knull-greatest-threat/[/url]
That's all.
[QUOTE=Mercury;5663463]To clarify, I came in this thread and posted scans of an instance displaying some of Jean’s feats only because Jean was being mentioned here and it was being claimed that Jean couldn’t hold her own against Storm, which she has disproven multiple times. Furthermore, I did not come in here to put Storm down, which isn’t my style. Now, on to some responses.
I made my intentions clear in my first post in this thread and have reiterated them above.
And yet, she withstood them.
Once again, Jean withstood a direct hit from Binary, as evidenced in the page that I initially posted and which has been quoted a few times already. Honestly, the art could not be [I]any[/I] clearer. She also withstood the forces of a white hole and a blast caused by the Silver Surfer. The mathematics you are attempting to obscure these facts with are impressive, admirable even, but, in the end, do not diminish her feats. Furthermore, they are inconsequential when trying to argue whether or not Jean could withstand Storm’s assaults. If she can withstand what she withstood in space in the pages I have posted, she can withstand Storm’s weather.
I don’t believe weather can obliterate a planet or moon, though I do believe the energy Jean withstood is stronger than weather.
The scans I posted were meant to clarify how strong Jean’s telekinesis is. Also, prior to posting in here and while perusing this thread and seeing Jean’s name mentioned repeatedly, I started to feel the same. As for Storm’s comment, she says “Jean Grey’s power seems much weaker than usual – I could deal with her easily.” I interpret that statement as meaning that because Jean’s power is “much weaker than usual,” Storm “could deal with her easy.” Let’s keep it cute. Nevertheless, she was dealing with a robot.
This is conjecture.
You are seriously mischaracterizing why I chose to post in here.
References, please. So as not to clog this thread, post them in the Jean thread if you can.
How convenient.
Storm had a “machine virus” in her brain and wasn’t in full control of her defenses. Based on the art, it seems that some of those “defenses” originated with said virus and were not all due to Storm’s mind. Nevertheless, Jean did break through those defenses to save Emma twice, after which they both fought against and blew away those defenses:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7WuvA6WQAAc8lQ?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7WuvyiWEAMTqd3?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
It was not “pretty much clear” that Jean was the weakest X-Man. I think you’re referring to the first time she was referred as such by Claremont, in which case I can use the same defense you did regarding Taylor’s writing of Storm. To paraphrase you, It’s clear [Claremont] wasn’t quite knowledgeable of Jean’s abilities.
For those interested, please read through this thread, which includes screenshots, covering the first 137 issues of X-Men and giving an overview of Jean’s power development. It is clear that she and Iceman were the strongest members of the original team.
[url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1407079233021689865[/url]
Again, please see the Twitter thread a posted a link to above. You have cited one quote Claremont wrote Scott thinking and my defense – echoing your own, mind you – as stated above stands.
I’ve already clarified why I posted those scans: Because Jean was being mentioned, by you even, before I even decided to reply. Also, the claims I make of Jean’s powers and abilities are based on canon and I have the scans to back up those claims.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit! This is an unecessary post.
all jokes aside it is admirable you love jean so she is amazing in her own way. Buy as unfortunate as it is to say jean was canonically the weakest xman up until pheonix, claremont himself stated that she was given a power level similar to storm and that her highlight would have been saving the entire universe once..... But then after he got more ideas of what to do with it end of story dark pheonix happens and it does more bad than good to jean and her reputation.
Now onto the binary scan, erhm huh? She blocked a beam from binary...and so? I fail to see how that translates to the topic of energy as it relates to weather, also girl was not tanking the thing point blank KYL360 explained it perfectly for her to tank the full thing she would need to be massive or be at the center of the explosion both of which she wasn't.
Oh yh and we have it on record jean literally stating she is struggling against storms winds. Y'all think tk is I think it then boom it happens, nope it takes intention, will concentration to pull something off that big and in a full blown hurricane I am sorry but the concentration ain't gonna come.
The giant size panel is actually quaint she destroys a defense mechanism which was not targeted towards her in storms mind whist storm was unconscious and corrupted by nanites near the brink of death.... I guess that is impressive?
[QUOTE=Mercury;5663478]These will be the last scans of Jean I post in this thread. They depict Jean sans the Phoenix Force and, per Jordan D. White, are considered canon and feats Jean is still capable of doing.
That's all.[/QUOTE]
Alright, been here before, let's stop before a MOD comes in here.
[QUOTE=Mercury;5663478]These will be the last scans of Jean I post in this thread. They depict Jean sans the Phoenix Force and, per Jordan D. White, are considered canon and feats Jean is still capable of doing.
Jean blowing away a group of Silver Surfers:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7EJuAjWUA8tINs?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1418926075430809606[/url]
Jean slamming Gladiator:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E48nqQPXMAAP0v_?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1409389834418929666[/url]
Jean knocking Galactus:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7z8_C3XMAIE9_O?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]
More pictures: [url]https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/status/1422290107378421767[/url]
And, of course, Jean recently raided the mind of an ancient symbiote god [I]and[/I] discovered the Enigma Force, i.e., for all intents and purposes, God.
[url]https://screenrant.com/jean-grey-king-black-knull-greatest-threat/[/url]
That's all.[/QUOTE]
Interesting you mentioned knull's mind here I ask you where in all of king in black storyline was it shown that knull was resistant to telepathy? Because if anything his hive mind was very easy to hack into.
[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5663492]Alright, been here before, let's stop before a MOD comes in here.[/QUOTE]
This has become a dumb vs thing. A basic d!ck measuring contest.
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5663448]What is she appearing in? I didn't see anything dropping tomorrow that she would appear in normally.[/QUOTE]
I'm seeing some stuff on twitter that has me excited. nothing confirmed though
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5663496]This has become a dumb vs thing. A basic d!ck measuring contest.[/QUOTE]
And while I usually enjoy those ;), I know how this will end.
I feel bad for replying the first time.:(
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5663498]I'm seeing some stuff on twitter that has me excited. nothing confirmed though[/QUOTE]
Ohhh where where!
Some of us here love both Jean and Storm. I will never understand the contest between these two characters. I can better understand the contest between Emma and Jean since they have comparable powers. Storm and Jean are both omega mutants. They are both strong and powerful characters so pitting them against each other is not good. I will say this Teen Jean is not an alternate reality character so she was 616 Jean plucked from the timeline and eventually went back. X-men Red Jean easily dispatched Storm using her telepathy. Jean is omega with telepathy so that scene was hardly controversial but I know some fans will always hate it. Ororo has beat Jean a few times in the past it was time Jean got a win on her imo.
Lastly Ororo has amazing feats - look at any respect thread but def the one on comicvine. There is no need for insecurity there. The same with Jean. She's got the psychic feats. There is no need to delve into who is more powerful. One is an amazing elemental who controls the weather the other is a powerful psychic. In the comics these women are teammates and friends... and yet the fandoms are always going after each other (from my view it is mostly one sided but I digress..)
I know I'm banging my head against the wall but really Jean dispatching Storm when she was controlled by Nova's sentinite didn't take anything away from Storm. I promise! Storm is still amazing I would think we'd be more offended by Storm's portrayal in X-men Gold where she was constantly getting knocked out.