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[QUOTE=twisted sun;5322498]Whew chy....one question/answer and we get 10 pages of convo lol
Although I don't understand why the X-office couldn't write the stories they wanted because of her being in BP but it's whatever. Whether you loved it, hated it or was impartial to it, it's about to end. (I'm just looking forward to seeing all the melanated heroes together for a change, even if it is short lived.)
Soooo......what would we like to see of her going to space?[/QUOTE]
hmmmm I'm not sure. It kinda of depends what the storyline is. I believe the shiar will be involved. it would be nice to see application of her abilities when in space explored some more but this is scary part. last time when in an xmen book when in space she mentioned since there was no weather she was useless.
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[QUOTE=twisted sun;5322498]Whew chy....one question/answer and we get 10 pages of convo lol
Although I don't understand why the X-office couldn't write the stories they wanted because of her being in BP but it's whatever. Whether you loved it, hated it or was impartial to it, it's about to end. (I'm just looking forward to seeing all the melanated heroes together for a change, even if it is short lived.)
Soooo......what would we like to see of her going to space?[/QUOTE]
This 100%. I just hope her going to space is a way for her to realize that she’s been limited as just a QC member and Kitty’s entourage and then she’ll go on her own adventures to figure out her full potential.
If I was working in the X-Office I would have made her the co-lead of Way of X, because who better to explore religion and spirituality with than the literal goddess that you’re friends with.
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[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5322503]Are you becoming a Zebra?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]No, my right arm has undergone terragenesis and the mohawk is the result.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5322429]I want to hear his side too. [B]Why he is never interviewed about Storm?[/B]
Hope we get a interview about his conclusion of Black Panther
That is a good example of not coordinating and x-men writer doing what he wants[/QUOTE]
He was not hired to write her. He was hired (and FAILED) to write Black Panther. The one with the movie and 3 Oscars.
[QUOTE]I remember when guggenheim issue dropped where storm was kissing gambit and Coates that same day tweeted storm and black panther looking lovingly in each other's eyes. its clear there was friction then and though that may not be the case with the current writers its very clear Coates has afforded the xoffices more respect than they have him.[/QUOTE]
When dealing with different editorial offices-they can and choose to NOT pay attention to what others do with their property. Especially the X-office towards Black Panther.
The difference between Wolverine and Storm and you can toss in Prodigy in Young Avengers is DEVELOPMENT.
Wolverine in a book is not going to do anything to change or define him. He is what he is. He is whatever the X-Office has made him and in his case folks follow that version.
Storm, Prodigy and Sunspot would be different.
Storm as a goddess at least for Wakanda comes from WHERE? Not an X-book.
Prodigy being Bisexual comes from Young Avengers. Not the X-books.
How much background and Kitty's talking post has Storm been the last 20 years in X-books?
How much has Prodigy been that since New X-Men academy ended?
So to a writer OUTSIDE of the X-Office-those are clean slates to do whatever you wanted.
We saw this with Firestar. Who did her more justice? New Warriors? 99 Avengers? X-Men (before New Warriors)?
Now you got an issue. You can have Storm do all that stuff in Black Panther and attract (or sucker) Storm fans to buying it-WHO benefits? BLACK PANTHER.
You underwrite Storm in X-Men books-WHO gets SCREWED? STORM. She is suppose to be selling X-MEN not Black Panther.
So when you have potential writers look at who they want to write-the see the Panther resume and the Storm resume. Guess who wins?
It is the job of the X-OFFICE to sell Storm. Part of the reason she and others struggle to get solos is because they never get to be the center of attention.
Give folks a reason to want a Storm book that does not require Wakanda or Kitty or Logan or whoever. In some format.
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A writer can't turn a character into something they already are. Especially when they don't bring any hardcore details to the table.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5322703]A writer can't turn a character into something they already are. Especially when they don't bring any hardcore details to the table.
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Reminds me of those days when Storm ran around naked. Miss those days...
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5322698]He was not hired to write her. He was hired (and FAILED) to write Black Panther. The one with the movie and 3 Oscars.
When dealing with different editorial offices-they can and choose to NOT pay attention to what others do with their property. Especially the X-office towards Black Panther.
The difference between Wolverine and Storm and you can toss in Prodigy in Young Avengers is DEVELOPMENT.
Wolverine in a book is not going to do anything to change or define him. He is what he is. He is whatever the X-Office has made him and in his case folks follow that version.
Storm, Prodigy and Sunspot would be different.
Storm as a goddess at least for Wakanda comes from WHERE? Not an X-book.
Prodigy being Bisexual comes from Young Avengers. Not the X-books.
How much background and Kitty's talking post has Storm been the last 20 years in X-books?
How much has Prodigy been that since New X-Men academy ended?
So to a writer OUTSIDE of the X-Office-those are clean slates to do whatever you wanted.
We saw this with Firestar. Who did her more justice? New Warriors? 99 Avengers? X-Men (before New Warriors)?
Now you got an issue. You can have Storm do all that stuff in Black Panther and attract (or sucker) Storm fans to buying it-WHO benefits? BLACK PANTHER.
You underwrite Storm in X-Men books-WHO gets SCREWED? STORM. She is suppose to be selling X-MEN not Black Panther.
So when you have potential writers look at who they want to write-the see the Panther resume and the Storm resume. Guess who wins?
It is the job of the X-OFFICE to sell Storm. Part of the reason she and others struggle to get solos is because they never get to be the center of attention.
Give folks a reason to want a Storm book that does not require Wakanda or Kitty or Logan or whoever. In some format.[/QUOTE]
Well it would make sense to interview him regarding her especially since at one point he said he would be writing her solo.
I know they can do whatever they like but it doesn't mean readers will support the xoffices doing that. Its curious that Duggan even brought Coates up when black panther and his writing of storm in that book wasn't mentioned. Thats an indicator that the xoffices are aware readers enjoyed what he was doing.
Storm was worshipped as a goddess in Kenya and has ancestors of white haired women who extended back to the dawn of humanity. Wakandans being aware of this blessed line and believing in it wouldn't be a stretch considering kenya borders wakanda. Wakanda is an ancient civilization so im most certain they would be aware of this history.
Coates did his homework in Ororo’s inclusion in his BP stories. I listed the examples previously but the goddess narrative didn't come from thin air and given how retcons work wakandans being aware of these white haired women and even some seeing them as divine shouldn't be extreme, especially seeing the wakandan religion wasn't really explored until Coates came along.
I dont disagree that a storm solo should center around her but that doesn't require her previous relationships to be ignored. I think in the case of storm with Hickman writing giant size it proves a book with her name on it can sell. That said, these characters don't exist in bubbles. they exist in a world with many characters across many franchises so the idea that a solo book wouldn't contain some elements of interactions with her love and or fellow krakoans wouldn't seem sensible but I hear your point.
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Let's go space! I am just so glad storm's mythos can be divorced from wakanda. A lot of BP fans didn't like it and a lot of Storm fans don't like it so why not keep them seperate why can't her legacy and her godhood be explored on it's on. I don't need Storm goddess name to be sounding like japanese cartoon porn anyway, yaoi. Coates literally tried to water Storm down and use her to build up his story and i hope it's never explored again to be honest. I hope the hadari yao is never mentioned again and i hope if and when her godhood is explored its on it's own merits and without a man needing to tell everyone to kneel to empower her. They just trying to lock Storm back in that palace and they failed. Get them stars girl, get them stars.
And i do find it funny that people think it's some conincidence like after using her back to back all of a sudden because she was in the BP books the X-office, the x-office of all offices all of a sudden was like well we won't use her. Let's be honest this was proably going to end up with marvel doing something stupid to change storm to make her a bp character to get around the rights but thank the Storm goddess Disney got the rights back. Claremont of all people just gave Storm away to the BP office and didn't want to write her? Taylor who also loosely mentioned his intentions for X-men red also had to play careful because of it. Storm should never be relegated to guest appearances in her own franchise for a lesser one, or anyone in my opinion. It makes so much sense now. Schism, how she left the book.
Don't let her go again x-books, your team has the power now.
I also now think this is why nothing big happened in her solo, it was literally just travelling around the world rehashing old stuff. Hudlin and Coates almost destroyed storm, especially Hudlin.
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5322490]If this was in canon it wouldn't be called a anthology. The reason anthology is used is to separate from canon.[/QUOTE]
That is not what anthology means. The multiple volumes MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS, MARVEL FANFARE, MARVEL HOLIDAY SPECIAL, even X-MEN UNLIMITED to an extent, etc were all anthology books. Some stories may have been out of continuity but determining that something in an collection of stories featuring disparate characters is, automatically, out of continuity, isn't a safe assumption to make.
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;5321408]If only she could really act. Because Damaris Lewis has the stunning look for Storm.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5321421]I like her look. But I keep putting white hair on her and it just looks off hopefully someone with more talent them gets it right.[/QUOTE]
She cute.
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My Wacom tablet is messing up rn, so I had to use my mouse(excuse the line quality), but here's a quick concept.
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a storm is brewing:
[url]https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/storm-rumored-mcu-solo-movie/[/url]
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5323263]She cute.
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My Wacom tablet is messing up rn, so I had to use my mouse(excuse the line quality), but here's a quick concept.[/QUOTE]
She's giving me Exquisite Coipel Storm vibes here.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5323263]She cute.
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My Wacom tablet is messing up rn, so I had to use my mouse(excuse the line quality), but here's a quick concept.[/QUOTE]
nice photoshop yoga
[QUOTE=Thirteen;5323208]That is not what anthology means. The multiple volumes MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS, MARVEL FANFARE, MARVEL HOLIDAY SPECIAL, even X-MEN UNLIMITED to an extent, etc were all anthology books. Some stories may have been out of continuity but determining that something in an collection of stories featuring disparate characters is, automatically, out of continuity, isn't a safe assumption to make.[/QUOTE]
thats what I was thinking. it being an anthology doesn't make it non canon. thank you.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5322698]He was not hired to write her. He was hired (and FAILED) to write Black Panther. The one with the movie and 3 Oscars.
When dealing with different editorial offices-they can and choose to NOT pay attention to what others do with their property. Especially the X-office towards Black Panther.
The difference between Wolverine and Storm and you can toss in Prodigy in Young Avengers is DEVELOPMENT.
Wolverine in a book is not going to do anything to change or define him. He is what he is. He is whatever the X-Office has made him and in his case folks follow that version.
Storm, Prodigy and Sunspot would be different.
Storm as a goddess at least for Wakanda comes from WHERE? Not an X-book.
Prodigy being Bisexual comes from Young Avengers. Not the X-books.
How much background and Kitty's talking post has Storm been the last 20 years in X-books?
How much has Prodigy been that since New X-Men academy ended?
So to a writer OUTSIDE of the X-Office-those are clean slates to do whatever you wanted.
We saw this with Firestar. Who did her more justice? New Warriors? 99 Avengers? X-Men (before New Warriors)?
Now you got an issue. You can have Storm do all that stuff in Black Panther and attract (or sucker) Storm fans to buying it-WHO benefits? BLACK PANTHER.
You underwrite Storm in X-Men books-WHO gets SCREWED? STORM. She is suppose to be selling X-MEN not Black Panther.
So when you have potential writers look at who they want to write-the see the Panther resume and the Storm resume. Guess who wins?
It is the job of the X-OFFICE to sell Storm. Part of the reason she and others struggle to get solos is because they never get to be the center of attention.
Give folks a reason to want a Storm book that does not require Wakanda or Kitty or Logan or whoever. In some format.[/QUOTE]
WOW.......Mic drop right here.
Well Said.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323498]a storm is brewing:
[url]https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/storm-rumored-mcu-solo-movie/[/url][/QUOTE]
When are y’all gonna learn that We made this shit up is not a reliable source?
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323498]a storm is brewing:
[url]https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/storm-rumored-mcu-solo-movie/[/url][/QUOTE]
YES PLEASE! People trying to have her first apperance be back up in BP. Hell to the naw. We want a solo.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;5322698]
Give folks a reason to want a Storm book that does not require Wakanda or Kitty or Logan or whoever. In some format.[/QUOTE]
Exactly if Coates intent was to explore ororo's godhood, why did he need to tie it to anyone. Why couldn't she just show up and he define what it meant all these years when she called herself a goddess when he had her fight adversary. No because he needed it dependent on him and his story. To coates i say, "peace out bra"
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;5323655]When are y’all gonna learn that We made this shit up is not a reliable source?[/QUOTE]
i almost guarantee marvel will make a storm movie just from a perspective of the black woman's vote etc. There is money there to be made and this can be marketed as a thank you to black females for saving this country. Our true goddesses. If marvel is smart a script is already in the works.
Not to mention as an actual princess if i was disney i would have the offical disney princess version with some tweaks waiting in the wings to back it up.
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duggan's final comment made me think of a solo or a storm teamlead book, anyways im intrigued to see what happens.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;5323655]When are y’all gonna learn that We made this shit up is not a reliable source?[/QUOTE]
We are on the fake news era, people want to feel good.
While A movie with Storm or even a tv show will be considered on the future, Feige said that they are only on discussing things about x-men.
They announced zero projects about x-men, because it is very complex franchise. FF already got director attached, it is an easier franchise to figure out.
Even star wars feige movie has a writer. Calm down folks
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;5323655]When are y’all gonna learn that We made this shit up is not a reliable source?[/QUOTE]
Personally i think part of the reason are black fans are so jaded (and rightfully so) by the history of how black characters are treated in cinema and other formats that they are usually the first one to tear things down so things that could catch traction usually don't and things that shouldn't do.
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5323683]We are on the fake news era, people want to feel good.
While A movie with Storm oe ven a tv show will be considered on the future, Feige said that they are only on discussing things about x-men.
They announced zero projects about x-men, because it is very complex franchise. FF already got director attached, it is an easier franchise to figure out.
Even star wars feige movie has a writer. Calm down folks[/QUOTE]
Ok i get it now, cause like no black person ever, or rather 95% didn't fall to that whole fake news or rather white news era.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;5323655]When are y’all gonna learn that We made this shit up is not a reliable source?[/QUOTE]
we got this covered isn't the actual source. they got it from here:
[url]https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/storm-x-men-marvel.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5323663]i almost guarantee marvel will make a storm movie just from a perspective of the black woman's vote etc. There is money there to be made and this can be marketed as a thank you to black females for saving this country. Our true goddesses. If marvel is smart a script is already in the works.
Not to mention as an actual princess if i was disney i would have the offical disney princess version with some tweaks waiting in the wings to back it up.[/QUOTE]
with how well black panther did, as well as WW and Captain Marvel, im inclined to believe its not a matter of if a storm movie will be made but when.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5323695]Ok i get it now, cause like no black person ever, or rather 95% didn't fall to that whole fake news or rather white news era.[/QUOTE]
Its not about race, people from all races and countries fall to fake news.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323703]we got this covered isn't the actual source. they got it from here:
[url]https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/storm-x-men-marvel.html[/url][/QUOTE]
This isn't a reliable source
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323706]with how well black panther did, as well as WW and Captain Marvel, im inclined to believe its not a matter of if a storm movie will be made but when.[/QUOTE]
i will take a movie or a disney + series. personally i would prefer disney +. first of all it doesn't have the same need for box office success especially in a time of covid and they can do much more expanding it on disney + and given what the mandalorin budget looked like and disney restructuring their series the budget would definitely be there to make it beautiful.
Beyond that if they don't have pixar or main disney working on a princess version to make up for making the first black disney princess kissing a dang frog, they don't want to make money.
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5323709]Its not about race, people from all races and countries fall to fake news.[/QUOTE]
Oh it definitetly is. See the exit polls for voting in america. People fall for what they want to fall for. Or what makes them think they feel safe.
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never forget:
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5323714]Oh it definitetly is. See the exit polls for voting in america. People fall for what they want to fall for. Or what makes them think they feel safe.[/QUOTE]
I don't think exit polls are fake news, they are a statistic information that can be wrong.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323715]never forget:
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been forgotten. lol
Storm cowering underground until her man gave her the STRENGTH, the STRENGTH, she needed to claim her divineess.
Sorry she got herself together decades ago when trapped in a small space.
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5323709]Its not about race, people from all races and countries fall to fake news.
This isn't a reliable source[/QUOTE]
I actually agree here. people of all races have fallen prey to fake news via governments, religions, and laws of various society. Ororo recognizes this and had to remind men of the world this:
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I can always tie things back to our girl ;)
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[QUOTE=Rang10;5323720]I don't think exit polls are fake news, they are a statistic information that can be wrong.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they are fake either but they give you a good idea who supposedly fell for fake news. Trump had more people vote for him in this election. But whatever people live by whatever excuses they want including "fake news" i'm just not here to make excuses for other people not searching for facts anymore. If you buy fake news it's because it's the news you wanted to hear. Fake news and fun speculation are completely different.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5323722]been forgotten. lol
Storm cowering underground until her man gave her the STRENGTH, the STRENGTH, she needed to claim her divineess.
Sorry she got herself together decades ago when trapped in a small space.[/QUOTE]
as long as there is breathe in this body I will never let it be. All Praises be to the Glorious Hadari Yao!
It's absolutely nothing wrong with finding inspiration from a lover especially considering her claustrophobia. and being buried under rubble that could have weighed many tons is quite different from just being in small space. Yes she may have conquered being in smalles spaces but by no means has it ever been said she had rid herself of her claustrophobia:
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circa 2013.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323748]as long as there is breathe in this body I will never let it be. All Praises be to the Glorious Hadari Yao!
It's absolutely nothing wrong with finding inspiration from a lover especially considering her claustrophobia. and being buried under rubble that could have weighed many tons is quite different from just being in small space. Yes she may have conquered being in smalles spaces but by no means has it ever been said she had rid herself of her claustrophobia:
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circa 2013.[/QUOTE]
Eh. If coates was really intent on evolving oroo as a character he wouldn't have her dependent on others. A means to keep dragging her fans on imo. Clafremont Jr, but claremont did it better. He had the opportunity but he wanted just trickles of stuff to try to get x-fans to get behind him writing a storm solo. May he never get the chance to write it. ^____^
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5323762]Eh. If coates was really intent on evolving oroo as a character he wouldn't have her dependent on others. A means to keep dragging her fans on imo. Clafremont Jr, but claremont did it better. He had the opportunity but he wanted just trickles of stuff to try to get x-fans to get behind him writing a storm solo. May he never get the chance to write it. ^____^[/QUOTE]
you tried to invalidate Coates writing by saying she conquered her claustrophobia which canonically isn't true. Willow Wilson showcased this as captured in my previous post and even Pak showed her still coping with this in her solo when entering sewers.
Coates showing her having a human moment of vulnerability only to conquer it by ultimately channeling her goddess power is the epitome of evolution. and he is writing her again those issues are dropping next month!!!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5323715]never forget:
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Needs reposting
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5323820]Needs reposting[/QUOTE]
indeed beloved!
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I got the Spoilers for Marauders tomorrow.
And DAMN!!! Storm got a Good Feat. Gerry I will miss you writing her.
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[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5323890]I got the Spoilers for Marauders tomorrow.
And DAMN!!! Storm got a Good Feat. Gerry I will miss you writing her.[/QUOTE]
hmmmmm it better be good or its your arse!!!
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[QUOTE=Mah_Boons;5323890]I got the Spoilers for Marauders tomorrow.
And DAMN!!! Storm got a Good Feat. Gerry I will miss you writing her.[/QUOTE]
can you give me a spoiler ??
