[QUOTE=Subliminally;5869201]Lol I found it! Google is [B][U]supreme[/U][/B]. [url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119806-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Appreciation-2019&p=4478481&viewfull=1#post4478481[/url][/QUOTE]
Yep yep yep perfect analogy.
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[QUOTE=Subliminally;5869201]Lol I found it! Google is [B][U]supreme[/U][/B]. [url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119806-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Appreciation-2019&p=4478481&viewfull=1#post4478481[/url][/QUOTE]
Yep yep yep perfect analogy.
Also concerning the AXE even mt this summer people are saying that the xmen are going to face judgement from the celestials because they took over the solar system. And if so you know who would be in the heat, the regent of the solar system. as storm fans I want to ask a question, do we want storm in this event?
I just had a conversation with a Storm and Thor fan on Twitter, and I realized that Thor could easily do these things in this issue, anyway, Storm did, and there's no way to change that XD
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5869153]You do have a point! Marvel makes it a point (much to my annoyance at times) to speak with their whole chest about her Omega status. But as you point out she was clearly advertised a a Weather Goddess here.
I wonder when Storm ascended if there was some type of ripple effect? Sort of like how there was that fan-found link between Scarlet Witch claiming her full power and "Kang" noticing it.
You'd be surprised what you can find if you stop and read the comments. I've seen stuff like she's not a real Goddess due to her physicals to she's only there (the Omega list) to check off a box. It's not really hard to infer what they are meaning.
You're late to the party, lmao! It's already been confirmed by the Regent herself.
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and storms powers don't allow her to create stuff from nothing. the elements needed to create an atmosphere obviously were not there. she would have had to tap into far greater than her mutant abilities to pull this off.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869317]I just had a conversation with a Storm and Thor fan on Twitter, and I realized that Thor could easily do these things in this issue, anyway, Storm did, and there's no way to change that XD[/QUOTE]
ive talked to a couple myself and from I understand his powers have been applied differently. but I'm waiting for confirmation.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5869323]and storms powers don't allow her to create stuff from nothing. the elements needed to create an atmosphere obviously were not there. she would have had to tap into far greater than her mutant abilities to pull this off.[/QUOTE]
So I think more than right that your divinity suppresses what your mutation cannot do, which would be to generate more esoteric, mystical moments, also getting more into the Avatar World / Animes / Books concept, using water to heal wounds, also using the elements to affect spirits, entities, or also having the ability to transmute the elements, having a small degree of manipulation of reality, although only with the branch of physics and science, it is already capable of doing many, many things, which I learn most here, is that only with the use of science, Storm becomes a very complete and versatile character.
Although her mutation indicates that she has an indefinable power limit, I would say that just using her omega powers she can reach Universal, Solar System and Galaxies levels, and using her Divinity she can reach Multiversal levels and cause things out of the box!
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5869324]ive talked to a couple myself and from I understand his powers have been applied differently. but I'm waiting for confirmation.[/QUOTE]
The important thing is that our girl continues to grow with her powers, that she may come much more!
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869341]So I think more than right that your divinity suppresses what your mutation cannot do, which would be to generate more esoteric, mystical moments, also getting more into the Avatar World / Animes / Books concept, using water to heal wounds, also using the elements to affect spirits, entities, or also having the ability to transmute the elements, having a small degree of manipulation of reality, although only with the branch of physics and science, it is already capable of doing many, many things, which I learn most here, is that only with the use of science, Storm becomes a very complete and versatile character.
Although her mutation indicates that she has an indefinable power limit, I would say that just using her omega powers she can reach Universal, Solar System and Galaxies levels, and using her Divinity she can reach Multiversal levels and cause things out of the box![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869342]The important thing is that our girl continues to grow with her powers, that she may come much more![/QUOTE]
I agree with all your points Stormy. such a great day and it came literally out of nowhere.
[QUOTE=Subliminally;5869201]Lol I found it! Google is [B][U]supreme[/U][/B]. [url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119806-Ororo-Munroe-Storm-Appreciation-2019&p=4478481&viewfull=1#post4478481[/url][/QUOTE]
what exactly did you find lol
bvm i assume y talking to ororo101 post lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5868911][url]https://mobile.twitter.com/EricaSchultz42/status/1475551812589604866[/url]
if you have twitter please show this writer some love for the power of light issue she wrote.[/QUOTE]
Definitely showed some love! I'm appreciative that Storm was selected for this story and played a pivotal role. This was a nice and unexpected treat.
I like the Storm and Thor team-up and it would be interesting to explore the differences in their abilities (classical weather generation vs adaptive weather manipulation?), and what made Thor feel the difference in their powers that made Storm a better fit for the task at hand. I have no doubt he could generate a sun, since he basically did it for Polemachus before, but it seemed like he understood that Storm's powers could establish a self sustaining climate for their world.
It was also worded a bit weird for me with respect to Storm "creating an atmosphere from nowhere" since clearly there was air, moisture and EM energy already present. She summoned lightning from the air, created whirlwinds, and through hailstones before she established the sustainable weather. Love seeing Ororo generate light and create....I'm still working that one out in my head....but a star?
[QUOTE=juan678;5868436][URL="https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1475461747813371909"]https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1475461747813371909[/URL]
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/SsHspwWt/FHnkox-CXIAQUh-AN.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm calling it now! Storm will make a cameo in Thor: Love and Thunder!
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5869544]I'm calling it now! Storm will make a cameo in Thor: Love and Thunder![/QUOTE]
Oh God! That thought ran through my head too and I hope your right!
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5869543]Definitely showed some love! I'm appreciative that Storm was selected for this story and played a pivotal role. This was a nice and unexpected treat.
I like the Storm and Thor team-up and it would be interesting to explore the differences in their abilities (classical weather generation vs adaptive weather manipulation?), and what made Thor feel the difference in their powers that made Storm a better fit for the task at hand. I have no doubt he could generate a sun, since he basically did it for Polemachus before, but it seemed like he understood that Storm's powers could establish a self sustaining climate for their world.
It was also worded a bit weird for me with respect to Storm "creating an atmosphere from nowhere" since clearly there was air, moisture and EM energy already present. She summoned lightning from the air, created whirlwinds, and through hailstones before she established the sustainable weather. Love seeing Ororo generate light and create....I'm still working that one out in my head....but a star?[/QUOTE]
It was such a pleasant surprise. From what I understood the difference between the two was that she could create sustainable weather as well as a "sun." You're absolutely correct about there being elements present but I don't believe there was anything that would create an environment suitable to create rain on a large scale. All the effects she cast before creating the atmosphere were localized. The hailstorm, lightning and tornado. This is why I concluded this had to be a goddess feat as creating an environment massive enough to create rainfall from nothing falls outside of her abilities as s mutant.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5869551]It was such a pleasant surprise. From what I understood the difference between the two was that she could create sustainable weather as well as a "sun." You're absolutely correct about there being elements present but I don't believe there was anything that would create an environment suitable to create rain on a large scale. All the effects she cast before creating the atmosphere were localized. The hailstorm, lightning and tornado. This is why I concluded this had to be a goddess feat as creating an environment massive enough to create rainfall from nothing falls outside of her abilities as s mutant.[/QUOTE]
Possibly. It seemed a similar feat to what she did on Arakko, with the exception of creating the star. Once the elements were present (in whatever quantity) she established the climate for their entire world to sustain itself and the biosphere. But it also made me think of the instance in BP where the plat life grew rapidly around her due to the energies and conditions she created around herself. Looking at this story that planet look completely empty of plant life but it grass was fully sprouted by the time they left. Creating the star for them though....that was pretty damn epic. I don't want to speculate too much on how, as I lack the understanding of science to answer some of the questions it has me thinking.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869342]The important thing is that our girl continues to grow with her powers, that she may come much more![/QUOTE]
Can you tell me what these fans said concerning Thor's and his abilitu to do this.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5869323]and storms powers don't allow her to create stuff from nothing. the elements needed to create an atmosphere obviously were not there. she would have had to tap into far greater than her mutant abilities to pull this off.[/QUOTE]
To tell the truth, the term "from nothing" was hyperbolic, Storm is able to see the universe as an energy pattern and manipulate its elements at will. There on that planet the atmosphere was a rare effect, but as it is a force of nature and can manipulate the elements at a universal level, it managed to create not only an atmosphere, but a sun to sustain life on the planet.
You forget that now Storm is an omega in weather manipulation, there are basically no limits to an omega's abilities.
Storm basically did what a light bulb does.
Summary
Let’s look at the key concepts:
Electron energy levels are quantized. This means the electron can only have certain values of energy.
When an electron moves from a higher to lower energy level light is produced.
The frequency (and thus wavelength and color) of this light depends on the change in energy level.
For LED, this electron energy transition happens because of an energy gap in a semiconductor material.
In a fluorescent bulb, electrons transition energy levels in a gas. Also, some of the light produced is in the ultraviolet range. This light is converted to visible light through fluorescene.
An incandescent bulb creates light by making a hot filament. In a solid, there are many different energy levels in order to produce all possible colors of light.
Fire is just like a filament except that it’s not a filament. Instead, the light mostly comes from hot pieces of material that did not get burned.
[URL="https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/"]https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/[/URL]
fluo·res·cence
/flo͝o(ə)ˈresəns,flôrˈesəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fluorescence
the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
the property of absorbing light of short wavelength and emitting light of longer wavelength.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869592]Can you tell me what these fans said concerning Thor's and his abilitu to do this.[/QUOTE]
So, the person who was a fan of both characters became more defensive, not wanting to generate an vs argument, although I went and asked who would be the most powerful in the weather manipulation department, for that person it's Thor., being son of two gods (Gaea and Odin), yes they disregard the recton that Jason Aaron placed, about the Phoenix being the mother of Thor, and that her powers had multiversal levels, also said no doubt that Storm also has this level of power, but it still needs to be shown.
Said that their powers are equal, that Thor was able to do these things that Storm did, he's (Thor) already created several habitable worlds/planets, both Storm and Thor are able to sustain a planet by themselves. It also showed a scan, where supposedly (I didn't quite understand) [I]Thor projected an intense light to annihilate the Glory[/I] -- Entity with the power of [B]thousands[/B] of Gods.
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Also said Magic beats Science, lol.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5869775]Storm basically did what a light bulb does.
Summary
Let’s look at the key concepts:
Electron energy levels are quantized. This means the electron can only have certain values of energy.
When an electron moves from a higher to lower energy level light is produced.
The frequency (and thus wavelength and color) of this light depends on the change in energy level.
For LED, this electron energy transition happens because of an energy gap in a semiconductor material.
In a fluorescent bulb, electrons transition energy levels in a gas. Also, some of the light produced is in the ultraviolet range. This light is converted to visible light through fluorescene.
An incandescent bulb creates light by making a hot filament. In a solid, there are many different energy levels in order to produce all possible colors of light.
Fire is just like a filament except that it’s not a filament. Instead, the light mostly comes from hot pieces of material that did not get burned.
[URL="https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/"]https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/[/URL]
fluo·res·cence
/flo͝o(ə)ˈresəns,flôrˈesəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fluorescence
the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
the property of absorbing light of short wavelength and emitting light of longer wavelength.[/QUOTE]
Yes this but for the light for the planet I really believe it was a star the more you realize what Thor really wanted. Remember the people talk about how they are too far from the sun so their crops and tech don't grow or work . A lightbulb though can produce light, won't last forever. and from the looks of it, they needed something long-term and the only source of light that can sustain itself for million if not billions of years is a star. The star won't only provide light but heat to drive the planet's atmosphere and trigger continual rainfall for their crops. If they were there for a few months to a year then sure it would have been a light bulb but the long term for thousand years potentially they needed something more lasting hence the star.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869803]Yes this but for the light for the planet I really believe it was a star the more you realize what Thor really wanted. Remember the people talk about how they are too far from the sun so their crops and tech don't grow or work . A lightbulb though can produce light, won't last forever. and from the looks of it, they needed something long-term and the only source of light that can sustain itself for million if not billions of years is a star. The star won't only provide light but heat to drive the planet's atmosphere and trigger continual rainfall for their crops. If they were there for a few months to a year then sure it would have been a light bulb but the long term for thousand years potentially they needed something more lasting hence the star.[/QUOTE]
Oh i definitely agree she created star. I was just more talking the means of accomplishing it if it were "Science" based. The jist though is i think she basically replicated the galatic core feat but instead of channeling through her body she was able to coalesce the energies into a star.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869789]So, the person who was a fan of both characters became more defensive, not wanting to generate an vs argument, although I went and asked who would be the most powerful in the weather manipulation department, for that person it's Thor., being son of two gods (Gaea and Odin), yes they disregard the recton that Jason Aaron placed, about the Phoenix being the mother of Thor, and that her powers had multiversal levels, also said no doubt that Storm also has this level of power, but it still needs to be shown.
Said that their powers are equal, that Thor was able to do these things that Storm did, he's (Thor) already created several habitable worlds/planets, both Storm and Thor are able to sustain a planet by themselves. It also showed a scan, where supposedly (I didn't quite understand) [I]Thor projected an intense light to annihilate the Glory[/I] -- Entity with the power of [B]thousands[/B] of Gods.
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Also said Magic beats Science, lol.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that, I know those Thor feats still doesn't prove he could have created a sustainable atmosphere or a sun for the planet. The fight with the glory was a momentary thing, the light was a momentarily thing. Thor said he could create great storms and generate lightning for their tech but it won't sustain them for they needed someone to come and actually rebuild what was already there and make it self sustainable. Like I said he terraforming the world with gaea's blessing was nice but Gaea isn't his mom anymore so those blessings a retconned weather they like it or not. This same writer said both Wanda abd Thor can kill pheonix sooo....
Like I already explained Thor can't manipulate the weather patterns that already exist in the world. He makes his own and after he is done these patterns vanish. Infact because of this he can make it rain water on the sun or on the moon with no atmosphere. Storm on the other hand needs established weather/energy patterns to use her abilities. On the moon with no atmosphere her power would adapt to manipulate the energy patterns of space giving her power of solar winds and magnetic fields and such. She manipulates elements as they exist in that environment, hence why in Giant size storm she was able to manipulate nanobots and stated that she is giving the artificial dimension the gift of wind, indicating that the nanobots storm would become part of the climate of the dimension.
Another difference is that Thor is the god of thunder not weather, his domain is the thunderstorm and it's base elements wind, rain, lighting and thunder. These are his elemental abilities when Gaea was his mother he had vegetation and geokinesis as part of his elemental abilities. Now compare that with storm who is the goddess of all weather itself and you get a very stark picture on who is higher up the food chain in terms of domain.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5869806]Oh i definitely agree she created star. I was just more talking the means of accomplishing it if it were "Science" based. The jist though is i think she basically replicated the galatic core feat but instead of channeling through her body she was able to coalesce the energies into a star.[/QUOTE]
It was a very great feat and I get where you are coming from. But for a self sustaining star it needs more than radiant energy... It needs nuclear fusion itself the strong and weak fundamental forces must be at play. First hydrogen atoms must be gathered in HUGE quantity then with intense pressure and gravity they are crushed till the atoms fuse to create helium, the fusion is what generates the energy in the form of heat and light and slowly as the hydrogen all is done being used up the star would eventually die. But fusion can take place for several years and I am sure with the size of that sun she made it would take probably tens of thousands of years before the hydrogen is all used up.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869825]It was a very great feat and I get where you are coming from. But for a self sustaining star it needs more than radiant energy... It needs nuclear fusion itself the strong and weak fundamental forces must be at play. First hydrogen atoms must be gathered in HUGE quantity then with intense pressure and gravity they are crushed till the atoms fuse to create helium, the fusion is what generates the energy in the form of heat and light and slowly as the hydrogen all is done being used up the star would eventually die. But fusion can take place for several years and I am sure with the size of that sun she made it would take probably tens of thousands of years before the hydrogen is all used up.[/QUOTE]
I just touched myself, and if I'm not mistaken, the moment the Storm created a small star and threw it into the sky in space, it manipulated gravity so that the little sun was rotated close to the planet?
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869815]Yeah that, I know those Thor feats still doesn't prove he could have created a sustainable atmosphere or a sun for the planet. The fight with the glory was a momentary thing, the light was a momentarily thing. Thor said he could create great storms and generate lightning for their tech but it won't sustain them for they needed someone to come and actually rebuild what was already there and make it self sustainable. Like I said he terraforming the world with gaea's blessing was nice but Gaea isn't his mom anymore so those blessings a retconned weather they like it or not. This same writer said both Wanda abd Thor can kill pheonix sooo....
Like I already explained Thor can't manipulate the weather patterns that already exist in the world. He makes his own and after he is done these patterns vanish. Infact because of this he can make it rain water on the sun or on the moon with no atmosphere. Storm on the other hand needs established weather/energy patterns to use her abilities. On the moon with no atmosphere her power would adapt to manipulate the energy patterns of space giving her power of solar winds and magnetic fields and such. She manipulates elements as they exist in that environment, hence why in Giant size storm she was able to manipulate nanobots and stated that she is giving the artificial dimension the gift of wind, indicating that the nanobots storm would become part of the climate of the dimension.
Another difference is that Thor is the god of thunder not weather, his domain is the thunderstorm and it's base elements wind, rain, lighting and thunder. These are his elemental abilities when Gaea was his mother he had vegetation and geokinesis as part of his elemental abilities. Now compare that with storm who is the goddess of all weather itself and you get a very stark picture on who is higher up the food chain in terms of domain.[/QUOTE]
This is a mess, but either way, both are extremely powerful, I also agree that Storm should show more universal, multi-level feats. you can do these things yourself, lol
That was one of Storm's best moments this year, but it shouldn't stop there, we know creating suns is the basics for most Marvel characters in the cosmic universe, so I don't see the point of stopping it, Storm can do a lot most!
Not Storm manipulating light now without lightning!!! Spectrum and Dazzler better watch out
Storm powers keep getting more developed by the day. Proving her powers is the fundamental source of existence. She just happens to specialize in weather.
Her run in Fantastic Four, Trion, Galactic Core, Powering Cyclops to replenish a sun, light manipulation, and much more.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869931]This is a mess, but either way, both are extremely powerful, I also agree that Storm should show more universal, multi-level feats. you can do these things yourself, lol
That was one of Storm's best moments this year, but it shouldn't stop there, we know creating suns is the basics for most Marvel characters in the cosmic universe, so I don't see the point of stopping it, Storm can do a lot most![/QUOTE]
In the end storm did what she did... And as the writer said this is 616 and cannon. It alsoakes sense seeing as she was extremely confident in her abilities so as not to need hope to boost her to create an atmosphere, she has done it before! And why she told magneto he is not the most powerful mutant in the room anymore, that's because he's now truly knows that she has hold of all the fundamental forces as per the creation of the mini sun, whilst he has a sub-set of one. Not to talk of her divinity. It was a good story with big feats which fit continuity. Remember when they said storm's power allows her to perceive the universe as patterns of force and energy and manipulate these primal forces to her will? This was a great call back to that.
[QUOTE=Stormy;5869923]I just touched myself, and if I'm not mistaken, the moment the Storm created a small star and threw it into the sky in space, it manipulated gravity so that the little sun was rotated close to the planet?[/QUOTE]
Not really gravity is the only force she didn't out right control. It's like a satellite a very dense satellite she likely moved it to space so that it revolves around the planet without being pulled back to the planet. A star that size can be as massive/ heavy as the moon or even a small planet.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5869775]Storm basically did what a light bulb does.
Summary
Let’s look at the key concepts:
Electron energy levels are quantized. This means the electron can only have certain values of energy.
When an electron moves from a higher to lower energy level light is produced.
The frequency (and thus wavelength and color) of this light depends on the change in energy level.
For LED, this electron energy transition happens because of an energy gap in a semiconductor material.
In a fluorescent bulb, electrons transition energy levels in a gas. Also, some of the light produced is in the ultraviolet range. This light is converted to visible light through fluorescene.
An incandescent bulb creates light by making a hot filament. In a solid, there are many different energy levels in order to produce all possible colors of light.
Fire is just like a filament except that it’s not a filament. Instead, the light mostly comes from hot pieces of material that did not get burned.
[URL="https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/"]https://www.wired.com/2015/06/illumination-life-four-ways-humans-make-light/[/URL]
fluo·res·cence
/flo͝o(ə)ˈresəns,flôrˈesəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fluorescence
the visible or invisible radiation emitted by certain substances as a result of incident radiation of a shorter wavelength such as X-rays or ultraviolet light.
the property of absorbing light of short wavelength and emitting light of longer wavelength.[/QUOTE]
This! People definitely got ahead of themselves in this thread saying she created a sun or mini sun. No way. That's just way too OP and we don't want Storm like that.
[QUOTE=KLY360;5869952]Storm powers keep getting more developed by the day. Proving her powers is the fundamental source of existence. She just happens to specialize in weather.
Her run in Fantastic Four, Trion, Galactic Core, Powering Cyclops to replenish a sun, light manipulation, and much more.[/QUOTE]
Yes I hope we get more of this especially in destiny of x along with good charachter driven stories. Ewing can easily deliver.
Oh and os: he said the first six sings are about arrako. And that we should pre order the books to enable him to get a longer run with this series.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869825]It was a very great feat and I get where you are coming from. But for a self sustaining star it needs more than radiant energy... It needs nuclear fusion itself the strong and weak fundamental forces must be at play. First hydrogen atoms must be gathered in HUGE quantity then with intense pressure and gravity they are crushed till the atoms fuse to create helium, the fusion is what generates the energy in the form of heat and light and slowly as the hydrogen all is done being used up the star would eventually die. But fusion can take place for several years and I am sure with the size of that sun she made it would take probably tens of thousands of years before the hydrogen is all used up.[/QUOTE]
Funnily it makes me think of the tas episode where storm save the planet it's like at the 24 minute mark. love that mariah carey hand way when she's like "Shine... SHINE!."
[video=youtube;9Sgjlj3I5yc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgjlj3I5yc[/video]
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5869998]This! People definitely got ahead of themselves in this thread saying she created a sun or mini sun. No way. That's just way too OP and we don't want Storm like that.[/QUOTE]
Actually I just disproved why she didn't create a light bulb. There is no way that a lightbulb would produce light for as long as the skrulls need it. Mind you they are extremely far from their sun and the atmosphere storm created needs a very potent heat source to drive it's weather, potent heat that is self sustaining enough to last for a very long time. A lightbulb can't do that.
But hey y'all can run with what you want.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5870006]Actually I just disproved why she didn't create a light bulb. There is no way that a lightbulb would produce light for as long as the skrulls need it. Mind you they are extremely far from their sun and the atmosphere storm created needs a very potent heat source to drive it's weather, potent heat that is self sustaining enough to last for a very long time. A lightbulb can't do that.
But hey y'all can run with what you want.[/QUOTE]
it had to be a star. i was more thinking the basis of electrons but it definitely has to be a star ( i know you were referring to meta with this post) How else will it provide light for generations to come and aren't skrull long lived?
[QUOTE=Reigna;5870006]Actually I just disproved why she didn't create a light bulb. There is no way that a lightbulb would produce light for as long as the skrulls need it. Mind you they are extremely far from their sun and the atmosphere storm created needs a very potent heat source to drive it's weather, potent heat that is self sustaining enough to last for a very long time. A lightbulb can't do that.
But hey y'all can run with what you want.[/QUOTE]
I never said she created a light bulb. Jwatson said she did what a light bulb does, not me. Either way she didn't create a sun, period.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5870003]Funnily it makes me think of the tas episode where storm save the planet it's like at the 24 minute mark. love that mariah carey hand way when she's like "Shine... SHINE!."
[video=youtube;9Sgjlj3I5yc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgjlj3I5yc[/video][/QUOTE]
My fave was "crack the heavens remove this abomination"
I was like YES GAWD! WERK!
Yes exactly shine with strength reborn indeed. Oh man I loved this storm soo much she was sooo commanding and divine but yet didn't need the elements to fight if need be.
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5870012]I never said she created a light bulb. Jwatson said she did what a light bulb does, not me. Either way she didn't create a sun, period.[/QUOTE]
Errrhm ohk
[QUOTE=jwatson;5870009]it had to be a star. i was more thinking the basis of electrons but it definitely has to be a star ( i know you were referring to meta with this post) How else will it provide light for generations to come and aren't skrull long lived?[/QUOTE]
Remember they said countless generations to come and yes they are long lived. Plus the one defining proof that it is a star is because only a star has the energy necessary enough to drive weather patterns. We were discussing this some days ago here, but basically weather happens due to one thing heat interacting with the atmosphere. The sinking and falling of hot and cold air literally produces all forms of weather phenomena from thunderstorms to hurricanes. When there is an increase in ocean temperatures hurricanes are formed. Creating an atmosphere but with no sun would spell doom as when storm left there would be no rain as heat is needed for the water cycle. Infact the only other way to get heat is from the interior of the earth and seeing as plants were growing I assume that the surface of the planet is hospitable to grass and not scorching from geothermal heat.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5870003]Funnily it makes me think of the tas episode where storm save the planet it's like at the 24 minute mark. love that mariah carey hand way when she's like "Shine... SHINE!."
[video=youtube;9Sgjlj3I5yc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgjlj3I5yc[/video][/QUOTE]
You got me chuckling dfu with the "Mariah Carey" hand lol cause thats just what she does when she's really getting into her singing. Janet and Mariah are my no.1s lol
[QUOTE=Reigna;5870023]My fave was "crack the heavens remove this abomination"
I was like YES GAWD! WERK!
Yes exactly shine with strength reborn indeed. Oh man I loved this storm soo much she was sooo commanding and divine but yet didn't need the elements to fight if need be.[/QUOTE]
Yes I love that too. I loved the voice actress. You can hear the emotion in her voice.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869989]In the end storm did what she did... And as the writer said this is 616 and cannon. It alsoakes sense seeing as she was extremely confident in her abilities so as not to need hope to boost her to create an atmosphere, she has done it before! And why she told magneto he is not the most powerful mutant in the room anymore, that's because he's now truly knows that she has hold of all the fundamental forces as per the creation of the mini sun, whilst he has a sub-set of one. Not to talk of her divinity. It was a good story with big feats which fit continuity. Remember when they said storm's power allows her to perceive the universe as patterns of force and energy and manipulate these primal forces to her will? This was a great call back to that.[/QUOTE]
I'm really happy, our girl is now showing a level of power she always had, being treated like other powerful Marvel characters.
[QUOTE=Reigna;5869997]Not really gravity is the only force she didn't out right control. It's like a satellite a very dense satellite she likely moved it to space so that it revolves around the planet without being pulled back to the planet. A star that size can be as massive/ heavy as the moon or even a small planet.[/QUOTE]
Uh but still, in order to have to create a star, whether it's small or not, Storm would have to control a small degree of gravity, even more so to get it positioned closer to the planet. Now I want to see that she doesn't have gravity manipulation, and of course I know she's not as powerful as Northstar is, but still, she has a manipulation and she had to use it!
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5869998]This! People definitely got ahead of themselves in this thread saying she created a sun or mini sun. No way. That's just way too OP and we don't want Storm like that.[/QUOTE]
I was upset to see a Storm fan contesting her power, but for you then, what did she do? And if you think creating a little star is too powerful, don't want to see the powers of characters like Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Monica (?), Iron Man, Thor, who can go beyond creating suns or resisting the power of a sun...