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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5470927]I was trying to think of a none goddess attack that would work. also keep in mind what she would do, similar to what she did with sinister when she shut off his brain, would prevent the electrical impulses from moving in the natural way the would when functioning normally. its not really electrocution but halting the flow of the electrical movement.
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She uses the term (shocked) In this panel that’s why I assumed she just electrocuted the brain
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[QUOTE=Weathergodsson;5471003]She uses the term (shocked) In this panel that’s why I assumed she just electrocuted the brain[/QUOTE]
I think she explains what she would do to him and your scan simply sums it up.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5471001]I know what occurred in his solo run that was written by a completely different writer which didn't have any reference to the cw2 story. which is why I mentioned people looking to invalidate the feat have to look to out of story methods to do so.[/QUOTE]
I’m not looking to invalidate anything, the marvel universe is a shared one and that’s the status doctor strange was in when civil war 2 was published, Not every debate has to turn into a fandom war, I like Ororo just as much as I like Stephen, if she does something in black panther we don’t ignore it just because it is written by a different writer, the same same courtesy should be extended to other characters, the Empirikul event had everlasting consequences in the magic side of the marvel universe that were felt for years, it set all the narrative regarding Stephen’s powers and was only recently resolved during waid run.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5471020]I think she explains what she would do to him and your scan simply sums it up.[/QUOTE]
I still don’t think that will cut up he’s to durable honestly.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5471027]I’m not looking to invalidate anything, the marvel universe is a shared one and that’s the status doctor strange was in when civil war 2 was published, Not every debate has to turn into a fandom war, I like Ororo just as much as I like Stephen, if she does something in black panther we don’t ignore it just because it is written by a different writer, the same same courtesy should be extended to other characters, the Empirikul event had everlasting consequences in the magic side of the marvel universe that were felt for years, it set all the narrative regarding Stephen’s powers and was only recently resolved during waid run.[/QUOTE]
well since you are not invalidating it what in story gave any indication he was weakened? I understand what was happening in his book but that doesn't mean a writer will acknowledge what's happening. was there anything else you can point to that would support bendis was looking to tie into cw2 what was happening in the solo?
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[QUOTE=Weathergodsson;5471039]I still don’t think that will cut up he’s to durable honestly.[/QUOTE]
if thanos can be dropped by similar means certainly thor can:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5471060]if thanos can be dropped by similar means certainly thor can:
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I think u just changed my mind lol storm is op in that case
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[QUOTE=Weathergodsson;5471063]I think u just changed my mind lol storm is op in that case[/QUOTE]
why is she OP? what do you think she should be able to do?
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5471056]well since you are not invalidating it what in story gave any indication he was weakened? I understand what was happening in his book but that doesn't mean a writer will acknowledge what's happening. was there anything else you can point to that would support bendis was looking to tie into cw2 what was happening in the solo?[/QUOTE]
I think I already explained my pov, at the end of the day Information is just information and people can choose to do with it what they like, when civil war was written the status of magic in the marvel universe was weakened and in flux, the crimson bands were working unreliably on strange’s very own solo book and Brevoort was the editor for both series. These characters are written by multiple writers every year and having to keep in mind multiple development is just the way it is.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5471102]I think I already explained my pov, at the end of the day Information is just information and people can choose to do with it what they like, when civil war was written the status of magic in the marvel universe was weakened and in flux, the crimson bands were working unreliably on strange’s very own solo book and Brevoort was the editor for both series. These characters are written by multiple writers every year and having to keep in mind multiple development is just the way it is.[/QUOTE]
I get your perspective which you are entitled to have; however, as readers of marvel comics we know what one writer cares to highlight in their story may completely be ignored by a writer in another story. just because these elements were in his solo doesn't mean bendis cared to carry this over into his storyline (could be that he didn't want to be bothered with it) especially if there is nothing in story that indicates he was weakened. I've read that issue from front to back and you won't find anything there before that issue or after that suggest bendis wrote him in a weakened state.
edit: after doing a little digging it appears I was correct in assuming bendis completely ignored what was going on in his solo. just so you know when he was weakened in his solo he couldn't even produce the crimson bands (issue 5):
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by issue 11 of his solo, which was released the same month as cw2 issue 5 where storm breaks his bands, his powers were not in flux; he was virtually powerless.
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magic wasn't restored in his solo until 2018 nearly two years after the cw2 showing so your logic doesn't really align to canon or what was even occurring in his solo book in which you referenced to invalidate Storm's feat.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5470860]storm has some tricks up her sleeve she hadn't used in that story. the only possible way I could see her taking him out is via an internal attack such as shutting down his brain to ko him. thst could possibly even kill him but non lethal ways I cannot think of anything she could do.
I am sure the message boards would lose it if she dropped him with a bolt of lightning lol.[/QUOTE]
I think the only way she will be able to beat him is with her magic and godhead. He’s a god so I wouldn’t expect much else to hurt him.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5471166]I get your perspective which you are entitled to have; however, as readers of marvel comics we know what one writer cares to highlight in their story may completely be ignored by a writer in another story. just because these elements were in his solo doesn't mean bendis cared to carry this over into his storyline (could be that he didn't want to be bothered with it) especially if there is nothing in story that indicates he was weakened. I've read that issue from front to back and you won't find anything there before that issue or after that suggest bendis wrote him in a weakened state.
edit: after doing a little digging it appears I was correct in assuming bendis completely ignored what was going on in his solo. just so you know when he was weakened in his solo he couldn't even produce the crimson bands (issue 5):
by issue 11 of his solo, which was released the same month as cw2 issue 5 where storm breaks his bands, his powers were not in flux; he was virtually powerless.
magic wasn't restored in his solo until 2018 nearly two years after the cw2 showing so your logic doesn't really align to canon or what was even occurring in his solo book in which you referenced to invalidate Storm's feat.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with your conclusions, Magic wasn't FULLY restored until 2018 but it did work AGAIN post Empirikul in a weakened unreliable way, STRANGE in civil war 2 is wearing his post Aaron costume so right there we can see that one is not a fully powered Strange.
I'd like to clarify I'm not saying Ororo can't beat Stephen, I believe that's a battle that can go either way depending of many factors, all I am saying is that back in 2015 and for a couple of year after magic in the marvel universe was canonically weaker and broken.
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Who gives a f@:@' about doctor strange. Is this the storm thread or did I walk into a vs.
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5471578]Who gives a f@:@' about doctor strange. Is this the storm thread or did I walk into a vs.[/QUOTE]
apparently people cared enough to mention him multiple times :D
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Recent been talking about X-Men: Evolution on The Scarlet Witch Thread, so let’s celebrate Storm from the show! :)
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Was storm in the last issue of KIB ??
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[QUOTE=Nobodyworthnoting;5471618]Was storm in the last issue of KIB ??[/QUOTE]
I got it but haven't read it yet. Reading Excalibur right now and then America #2.
[QUOTE=Nobodyworthnoting;5471618]Was storm in the last issue of KIB ??[/QUOTE]
Storm appears in one panel and does absolutely nothing but if your a venom fan. Imo hands down the worst event since IVS X
Basically another story to elevate a white dude to god status.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5471521]I disagree with your conclusions, Magic wasn't FULLY restored until 2018 but it did work AGAIN post Empirikul in a weakened unreliable way, STRANGE in civil war 2 is wearing his post Aaron costume so right there we can see that one is not a fully powered Strange.
I'd like to clarify I'm not saying Ororo can't beat Stephen, I believe that's a battle that can go either way depending of many factors, all I am saying is that back in 2015 and for a couple of year after magic in the marvel universe was canonically weaker and broken.[/QUOTE]
its not about whether you disagree or agree. the timeline is what it is. as I mentioned dr strange in his solo he was weakened and couldn't produce his bands of cytorrak in issue 5. 6 months later in his solo he was virtually powerless but in bendis book he was making his bands WITHOUT concern. if bendis was connecting the solo to his book he would have been fighting with an axe because his powers were useless. that isn't the case though.
knull said storm was his most powerful avatar and yet you have made it a point to rationalize why this isn't the case for dr. strange. this was never about who wins in a fight but what knull said, which for whatever reason you have tried to make a case for why it wasn't applicable to strange. bottom line you can disagree with the conclusions made but the facts are what they are:
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I saw this online and thought it was so nice:
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[QUOTE=CJStriker;5471606]Recent been talking about X-Men: Evolution on The Scarlet Witch Thread, so let’s celebrate Storm from the show! :)
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thanks cj. I was more a fan of xmen tas i wish she was a teenager like the other characters and not made to be their babysitter as she was in evo. here is some of her nice moments in tas!!!
[video=youtube_share;3fz93UFClpo]https://youtu.be/3fz93UFClpo[/video]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472071]its not about whether you disagree or agree. the timeline is what it is. as I mentioned dr strange in his solo he was weakened and couldn't produce his bands of cytorrak in issue 5. 6 months later in his solo he was virtually powerless but in bendis book he was making his bands WITHOUT concern. if bendis was connecting the solo to his book he would have been fighting with an axe because his powers were useless. that isn't the case though.
knull said storm was his most powerful avatar and yet you have made it a point to rationalize why this isn't the case for dr. strange. this was never about who wins in a fight but what knull said, which for whatever reason you have tried to make a case for why it wasn't applicable to strange. bottom line you can disagree with the conclusions made but the facts are what they are:
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Yeah we disagree on the nature of these comic “facts” as well, anyway I have expressed my pov extensively enough , we just have different opinions.… and since this is Ororo appreciation thread I wanted to post a picture of her which I love cause she doesn’t get to wear the color Blue very often:
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5472154]Yeah we disagree on the nature of these comic “facts” as well, anyway I have expressed my pov extensively enough , we just have different opinions.… and since this is Ororo appreciation thread I wanted to post a picture of her which I love cause she doesn’t get to wear the color Blue very often:
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no worries I think the content from what Duggan wrote speaks for itself as well (^_^)
cute pic!!
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5470920]That’s because a possessed Doctor Strange could never be at full power, that does not take anything away from Ororo, but Stephen power comes from the self, not his possessed physical form, a mutant power is more readily available than mystic knowledge accumulated trough years of spiritual studies[/QUOTE]
So knull saying Storm is his strongest avatar is based of her power as compared to the rest. Remember knull when in possession of a person knows everything from their past and present and can use that information against others as cyclops to bishop and cable to manifold. He possessed dr strange so he knows all that strange knows all the magical forms he has taken and all the sources of his power. When he says storm is the strongest it's not out of nowhere he knows what he is saying. Given he has intimate knowledge of all his avatar even to a greater extent than they themselves since he is a primordial god. The problem with this is that storm has been sooo severely damaged from bad writing that this statement feels like it's coming from nowhere to people who are not really avid fans of hers. Kyss posted some articles about how storm was originally conceptualized to be the most powerful mutant with no inherent limits. She was designed to be stronger than thor but incompetent writing and fox movies have done severe damage to her image and reputation. This is to the point that people think storm needs at least minutes and to look at the sky to activate her power.
She is the strongest it's a hard pill to swallow for some but it is fact and I am waiting on exactly how she is stronger than the likes of power cosmic thor, hulk, dr strange and a myriad of the most powerful marvel characters. We know she is omega and a goddess but her divinity and omega good have not exactly been fleshed out. At least to the extent of others like jean and co omega mutants.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5472342]So knull saying Storm is his strongest avatar is based of her power as compared to the rest. Remember knull when in possession of a person knows everything from their past and present and can use that information against others as cyclops to bishop and cable to manifold. He possessed dr strange so he knows all that strange knows all the magical forms he has taken and all the sources of his power. When he says storm is the strongest it's not out of nowhere he knows what he is saying. Given he has intimate knowledge of all his avatar even to a greater extent than they themselves since he is a primordial god. The problem with this is that storm has been sooo severely damaged from bad writing that this statement feels like it's coming from nowhere to people who are not really avid fans of hers. Kyss posted some articles about how storm was originally conceptualized to be the most powerful mutant with no inherent limits. She was designed to be stronger than thor but incompetent writing and fox movies have done severe damage to her image and reputation. This is to the point that people think storm needs at least minutes and to look at the sky to activate her power.
She is the strongest it's a hard pill to swallow for some but it is fact and I am waiting on exactly how she is stronger than the likes of power cosmic thor, hulk, dr strange and a myriad of the most powerful marvel characters. We know she is omega and a goddess but her divinity and omega good have not exactly been fleshed out. At least to the extent of others like jean and co omega mutants.[/QUOTE]
exactly. people seem to go out of their way to rationalize in their minds why storm is weak even though she was created to be the most powerful character and even when writers state otherwise, yet when it comes to their faves they accept all types of fantastical retcons that don't align to original depictions of the character.
nevertheless great post!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472419]exactly. people seem to go out of their way to rationalize in their minds why storm is weak even though she was created to be the most powerful character and even when writers state otherwise, yet when it comes to their faves they accept all types of fantastical retcons that don't align to original depictions of the character.
nevertheless great post![/QUOTE]
But strange wasn’t even posessed, while Ororo was serving as knull avatar this is what Strange was doing just before king in black #4, he was comatose and then black cat freed him
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5472452]But strange wasn’t even posessed, while Ororo was serving as knull avatar this is what Strange was doing just before king in black #4, he was comatose and then black cat freed him
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strange was possessed before storm was possessed in kib issue 1.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472466]strange was possessed before storm was possessed in kib issue 1.[/QUOTE]
No he was neutered by knull and rendered unconscious
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He was imprisoned into a black bubble
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5472478]No he was neutered by knull and rendered unconscious
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see the scan above he was overtaken by knull as stated by brock.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472483]see the scan above he was overtaken by knull as stated by brock.[/QUOTE]
He was never posessed just captured, i really think this is not the right thread to discuss this
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5472491]He was never posessed just captured, i really think this is not the right thread to discuss this[/QUOTE]
from the scan you posted you are right it doesn't appear he was possessed.
however this scan shows he was contained by the knull so he was still in his possession the one you just posted:
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nevertheless, even if you remove him storm being stated to be stronger than the strongest members of the f4, Thor and hulk is certainly still a win!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472508]from the scan you posted you are right it doesn't appear he was possessed.[/QUOTE]
I do agree with you tho, storm is more powerful than strange, in the sense that while her power is innate and intrinsic to her own nature, strange is just a normal human, all his power comes from his studies and spiritual evolution, that’s why I consider a possessed strange a severely downgraded asset.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5472526]I do agree with you tho, storm is more powerful than strange, in the sense that while her power is innate and intrinsic to her own nature, strange is just a normal human, all his power comes from his studies and spiritual evolution, that’s why I consider a possessed strange a severely downgraded asset.[/QUOTE]
I think the spiritual aspect may be hard to say though. the only time I can recall their will being compared was during the eternity housing feat and he basically said they were on the equivalent level. however, I would totally agree to your analysis regarding the source of their power.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472508]from the scan you posted you are right it doesn't appear he was possessed.
however this scan shows he was contained by the knull so he was still in his possession the one you just posted:
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nevertheless, even if you remove him storm being stated to be stronger than the strongest members of the f4, Thor and hulk is certainly still a win!![/QUOTE]
On the topic of strange I am confused as in why he is such a fixation? His main source of power comes from the vishanti and they are headed by the elder goddess oshtur whom it has stated has a very strong affiliation with Storm's bloodline.
Like I said people will move heaven and earth to disprove this fact. But the truth is they aren't at fault.
Do you remember the feat where storm hurt silver surfer with a hydrogen bomb the writer stated after he received death threats, he stated clearly that there is a very subtle thing under the grievance a sort of displeasure at storm a black woman showcasing such power. If you look at most battle threads people who disagree with storm winning a battle try to go out of their way to humiliate her. They try! but fail. If it were rachel or jean that were possessed and we're stated to be the strongest many people won't object. If it were thor or hulk people will nod in approval. When we stated storm was omega they tried to take it away from her even after the official list they still try stating then why is she weak in the fox movies, or get beaten by weaker characters. Jean invaded knull's mind that was an amazing feat, but if storm struck him down with lightning people will loose their minds stating how PIS it is for her to do that.
There is wired double standard when it comes to storm and showcasing her power that's why after this "big story" the x office have planned for storm doesn't deliver I am honestly done buying comic books. Will just go to twitter and read storm related parts from storm accounts.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472071]thanks cj. I was more a fan of xmen tas i wish she was a teenager like the other characters and not made to be their babysitter as she was in evo. here is some of her nice moments in tas!!!
[url]https://youtu.be/3fz93UFClpo[/url][/QUOTE]
Indeed we All grew up with the Animated 90’s classic storm and how cool and stern she was well represented! :D
Even if it was just a pilot episode and an Arcade game I still thought Pryde of the X-Men Storm was Really Cool Too, she might have been my very 1st Storm Ever! :D
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5472582]On the topic of strange I am confused as in why he is such a fixation? His main source of power comes from the vishanti and they are headed by the elder goddess oshtur whom it has stated has a very strong affiliation with Storm's bloodline.
Like I said people will move heaven and earth to disprove this fact. But the truth is they aren't at fault.
Do you remember the feat where storm hurt silver surfer with a hydrogen bomb the writer stated after he received death threats, he stated clearly that there is a very subtle thing under the grievance a sort of displeasure at storm a black woman showcasing such power. If you look at most battle threads people who disagree with storm winning a battle try to go out of their way to humiliate her. They try! but fail. If it were rachel or jean that were possessed and we're stated to be the strongest many people won't object. If it were thor or hulk people will nod in approval. When we stated storm was omega they tried to take it away from her even after the official list they still try stating then why is she weak in the fox movies, or get beaten by weaker characters. Jean invaded knull's mind that was an amazing feat, but if storm struck him down with lightning people will loose their minds stating how PIS it is for her to do that.
There is wired double standard when it comes to storm and showcasing her power that's why after this "big story" the x office have planned for storm doesn't deliver I am honestly done buying comic books. Will just go to twitter and read storm related parts from storm accounts.[/QUOTE]
Do you know of the specific story that states Ororo is a descendant from Oshtur ? I've been looking for it and can't find anything.
And yes yes yes. Had this been any of those other characters im most certain there wouldn't be questions regarding the validity of the statement. This has been one of the positive takeaways from Hickman's storm. He has showcased her as a powerhouse creating shields and gaining the support of the entire shiar empire. I hope this trend continues.
[QUOTE=CJStriker;5472595]Indeed we All grew up with the Animated 90’s classic storm and how cool and stern she was well represented! :D
Even if it was just a pilot episode and an Arcade game I still thought Pryde of the X-Men Storm was Really Cool Too, she might have been my very 1st Storm Ever! :D
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I loved pryde of the xmen storm. she wasn't taking any mess from the men on her team lol
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472763]Do you know of the specific story that states Ororo is a descendant from Oshtur ? I've been looking for it and can't find anything.
And yes yes yes. Had this been any of those other characters im most certain there wouldn't be questions regarding the validity of the statement. This has been one of the positive takeaways from Hickman's storm. He has showcased her as a powerhouse creating shields and gaining the support of the entire shiar empire. I hope this trend continues.[/QUOTE]
The mystic arcana issue one it is stated there the preference of oshtur for Storm's bloodline.
Yh that's true. Because I realized of all the xwomen. Storm has the biggest following and among all x characters she is second only to wolverine. And that is after writer's butchered the character for decades so imagine if they decide to push her as they do carol. As you are well aware storm has been soo prominent she has eclipsed wonder woman herself. They did it her creators vision to make her the most prominent woman in comics happened. Then it went downhill. But as I have noticed things lost can be restored. The mcu has done that for sooo many characters like carol, bucky, Jessica Jones, quake among others some though not house hold names still are still prominent than before.
Marvel did well they got their heroine, but cast her aside for a wonder woman archetype. I love carol but she feels too rehearsed like a merging of wonder woman and superman with a dash of martian man hunter. But she is there now and I love Brie and what she did with her. But the it girl the queen is storm. And that's hard since I will say marvel is better at establishing female heroes than DC.
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Is that how they tie Storm into magic, through Oshtur? I have heard Storm invoke that name before.
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[QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5472876]Is that how they tie Storm into magic, through Oshtur? I have heard Storm invoke that name before.[/QUOTE]
She has actually never used the name Oshtur before. It has always been "The Bright Lady" that she uses. Its not definitive yet if that refers to Gaea or Oshtur. Whoever it was, they have appeared to her at least once in her youth( as an incarnation that looked just like her), and also came to her aid in an issue of Classic Xmen.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5472763]Do you know of the specific story that states Ororo is a descendant from Oshtur ? I've been looking for it and can't find anything.
And yes yes yes. Had this been any of those other characters im most certain there wouldn't be questions regarding the validity of the statement. This has been one of the positive takeaways from Hickman's storm. He has showcased her as a powerhouse creating shields and gaining the support of the entire shiar empire. I hope this trend continues.[/QUOTE]
Mystic Arcana had one story about Storm's ancestor who is a priest of Ma'at(which is Oshtur's Egyptian identity in MU.) And in Marvel Tarot, Storm is one of the prietess Cards.
She is from a blessed bloodline, not a divine one though.(As in being an actual offspring of gods, she is from a line of priesthood.)
Again for Stephen, I think it's there is a difference between being a sorcerer serving Vishanti and a priest serving Oshtur. If anything Sorcerer Supreme fills the former role of Agamotto which is to defend Earth. Interesting enough, Agamotto and Hoggoth don't really show up alone in Earthlings' culture and religion.
It's either Oshtur alone or Vishanti as a whole.
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[QUOTE=MaximoffTrash;5473152]Mystic Arcana had one story about Storm's ancestor who is a priest of Ma'at(which is Oshtur's Egyptian identity in MU.) And in Marvel Tarot, Storm is one of the prietess Cards.
[B]She is from a blessed bloodline, not a divine one though.(As in being an actual offspring of gods, she is from a line of priesthood.)[/B][/QUOTE]
This is an important distinction many seem to overlook.
