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I think she can manipulate both EM and magnetic fields directly. Though it begs a lot of questions with respect to how she has and has not leveraged her control. Will it stay limited to control over manifestations of energy of the atmospheric medium? Making her highly specialized but limited in the way her abilities allows her to apply her control? Or is it intentionally limited so she remains as “Storm” and stays closer to the definition of her powerset being weather manipulation?
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5491908]I believe difference between Magneto and Storm’s control of electromagnetic forces is that she controls electromagnetic field patterns, while Magento directly controls electromagnetism, with his specialty being the magnetism itself. Storm can perceive the electromagnetic field around earth and manipulate its energy patterns and position for different effects, but Magneto can manipulate the electromagnetism in everything to a fine degree.
And butterfly might be right in that she manipulates the electrical energy to indirectly manipulate the magnetic part because she definitely can manipulate electrical energy which goes hand to hand with magnetism.[/QUOTE]
just to clarify, magnetism is a natural force of nature so I do think she could directly control it i just don't believe she has been shown in the comics as doing it directly this far. her manipulation resulting in magnetism has always been as a part of electromagnetism if I'm not mistaken.
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5491923]And it was EASY for her. Crazy ��[/QUOTE]
it sure was lol.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5491971]just to clarify, magnetism is a natural force of nature so I do think she could directly control it i just don't believe she has been shown in the comics as doing it directly this far. her manipulation resulting in magnetism has always been as a part of electromagnetism if I'm not mistaken.
it sure was lol.[/QUOTE]
She directly controlled the planet’s magnetic field twice in her solo.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;5491994]She directly controlled the planet’s magnetic field twice in her solo.[/QUOTE]
I thought that was the em field? but considering that I stand corrected.
yup you are right:
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5492000]I thought that was the em field? but considering that I stand corrected.
yup you are right:
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Oh nice Thanks for the scan! I didn’t notice it said only said magnetic either. Besides Legion and reality manipulators, I feel like Storm has the most versatile powerset of any mutant. She can just do so many things
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5492042]Oh nice Thanks for the scan! I didn’t notice it said only said magnetic either. Besides Legion and reality manipulators, I feel like Storm has the most versatile powerset of any mutant. She can just do so many things[/QUOTE]
100% agreed. I think if truly written to her full potential she would be a pretty much unstoppable character. Its one of the many things I love about the character.
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5492042]Oh nice Thanks for the scan! I didn’t notice it said only said magnetic either. Besides Legion and reality manipulators, I feel like Storm has the most versatile powerset of any mutant. She can just do so many things[/QUOTE]
That is why I was saying that she seems to have a direct ability to manipulate magnetism or magnetic fields. This means that all of magneto's powerset is at her disposal. And yh she is the most versatile outside of legion and the reality manipulators, I was stating somewhere that yes Mr M can control matter but he can't control forces that govern matter he can't control electromagnetism or strong or weak forces, he can simulate these forces by interacting with molecules and atoms but he cannot interact with energy fields, vulcan on the other hand can interacts with energy fields of all kinds but he cannot directly interact with matter but rather could use energy fields to simulate matter manipulation. But storm can interact with both matter and energy fields directly. And since we know her power transcends dimensions and even to planes of existence this control over both matter and energy is put on an extreme degree case in point the trion dimension and it's feats.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5492102]100% agreed. I think if truly written to her full potential she would be a pretty much unstoppable character. Its one of the many things I love about the character.[/QUOTE]
During the extraordinary x-men story line I remember jean and storm going into an xman I think nightcrawler's head and looking through his memories. When the mob came to attack him storm created a wind storm to blow them away but jean told her that they are memories so they cannot be affected or something to that effect.so I wanna ask can storm manipulate the elements in the astral plane.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5492137]During the extraordinary x-men story line I remember jean and storm going into an xman I think nightcrawler's head and looking through his memories. When the mob came to attack him storm created a wind storm to blow them away but jean told her that they are memories so they cannot be affected or something to that effect.so I wanna ask can storm manipulate the elements in the astral plane.[/QUOTE]
Lol i just woke up and it''s 2am and i'm barely holding on but iove tis discussion about storm. Yes, stom used lightning in the astral plane to destroy bishop memory of hunting hope in uncany x-force. sorry for typos She has used her elemental powers several times on the astral plane which always stoof out to me
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5492137]During the extraordinary x-men story line I remember jean and storm going into an xman I think nightcrawler's head and looking through his memories. When the mob came to attack him storm created a wind storm to blow them away but jean told her that they are memories so they cannot be affected or something to that effect.so I wanna ask can storm manipulate the elements in the astral plane.[/QUOTE]
she, as well as the other xmen, used their powers against shadow king back in uncanny 280:
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5492211]Lol i just woke up and it''s 2am and i'm barely holding on but iove tis discussion about storm. Yes, stom used lightning in the astral plane to destroy bishop memory of hunting hope in uncany x-force. sorry for typos She has used her elemental powers several times on the astral plane which always stoof out to me[/QUOTE]
That's what I was suspecting because if she can even use her powers in the astral plane then her mutation might really be the omega's omega mutation. Jean remarked once about how storms connection to the elements is something that she can barely comprehend.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5492309]That's what I was suspecting because if she can even use her powers in the astral plane then her mutation might really be the omega's omega mutation. Jean remarked once about how storms connection to the elements is something that she can barely comprehend.[/QUOTE]
Do you have the scan for that?
[QUOTE=jwatson;5492211]Lol i just woke up and it''s 2am and i'm barely holding on but iove tis discussion about storm. Yes, stom used lightning in the astral plane to destroy bishop memory of hunting hope in uncany x-force. sorry for typos She has used her elemental powers several times on the astral plane which always stoof out to me[/QUOTE]
In the Muir Island Saga all the X-Men were able to use it with perhaps aid of a telepath present however in Psi War and Worlds Apart she wasn't
There's also a scene in X-Factor with Sinister was attacking Jeans mind. And the other X-Men couldn't help her because they didnt have psi powers. I believe Psylocke was there
[QUOTE=ExodusCloak;5492370]In the Muir Island Saga all the X-Men were able to use it with perhaps aid of a telepath present however in Psi War and Worlds Apart she wasn't
There's also a scene in X-Factor with Sinister was attacking Jeans mind. And the other X-Men couldn't help her because they didnt have psi powers. I believe Psylocke was there[/QUOTE]
But the astral plane is still an environment with rules. The more time she spends there there is no reason she shouldn't be able to control it like any other environment. Which she has done in those later appearances.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5492516]But the astral plane is still an environment with rules. The more time she spends there there is no reason she shouldn't be able to control it like any other environment. Which she has done in those later appearances.[/QUOTE]
Is it an environment though? You have two planes but you can exist in both at the same time. But maybe, however to access it she'd need a telepath and she remained their too long she would die like Shadow King.
However, the same though could be said about Limbo, Mephistos realm they are "environment"
[QUOTE=ExodusCloak;5492531]Is it an environment though? You have two planes but you can exist in both at the same time. But maybe, however to access it she'd need a telepath and she remained their too long she would die like Shadow King.
However, the same though could be said about Limbo, Mephistos realm they are "environment"[/QUOTE]
Her powers have worked there except once when Aaron was writing her weird. but when the xmen were living in limbo her powers were fine. Also i think people also forget Storm's powers are psionic in nature not physical so who knows what patterns of energy she may see to manipulate in the astral environment. Also Charles and Shadow King spent quite a long time there in Astonishing Xmen where Charles mind was being held captive. And i would say it is in respects an environment, it has it's rules to it's existence it's natural laws, and that is where Storm shines.
I have to look for the image but i also remember in x-men visionaries i think Jean comparing Storm power to telepathy and saying how amazing it must be to be connected to everything the way she connects to minds.
In the meantime i found this image. I have always loved this scene. [ATTACH=CONFIG]108593[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5490333]yall check out this video. this review has me more inclined to think Hickman's unannounced book is a storm solo:
[video=youtube_share;sFEh0enf0aQ]https://youtu.be/sFEh0enf0aQ[/video]
if this is the case yall my head will be officially scalped.[/QUOTE]
Finally got around to watching this video and I LOVE the idea of Storm exploring the multiverse. I feel like it makes her journey distinct from SWORD's (which is already a very solid book). I'm trying not to get my expectations too high, but the X-Office needs to stop playing with me!
[QUOTE=jwatson;5492516]But the astral plane is still an environment with rules. The more time she spends there there is no reason she shouldn't be able to control it like any other environment. Which she has done in those later appearances.[/QUOTE]
what about work environments, should storm be able to manipulate the coming and goings of a modern multi billion dollars company like amazon or just be limited to single local offices?
While she is able to manipulate the magnetic spectrum as part of her elemental purview, Erik is the undisputed "Master" having much more skill, expertise and experience in that field. Same with Bobby and his control over negative temperatures.
I'm hoping we get to see those three (and Jean) really cut loose and use their vast, omega-level elemental powers in tandem in the Plane-Size issue.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5492734]what about work environments, should storm be able to manipulate the coming and goings of a modern multi billion dollars company like amazon or just be limited to single local offices?[/QUOTE]
I would say so. One gust of wind or an in door flood. ^______^
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5492752]While she is able to manipulate the magnetic spectrum as part of her elemental purview, Erik is the undisputed "Master" having much more skill, expertise and experience in that field. Same with Bobby and his control over negative temperatures.
I'm hoping we get to see those three (and Jean) really cut loose and use their vast, omega-level elemental powers in tandem in the Plane-Size issue.[/QUOTE]
I’ve always interpreted that as magneto being really old and having mastered his powers. Storm, i feel has done the same on earth. I am really interested in seeing her in reign of x and seeing if we get some cosmic powers of hers. Ngl i am hoping it proves to be quite controversial lmbo
[QUOTE=Cane_danko;5492840]I’ve always interpreted that as magneto being really old and having mastered his powers. Storm, i feel has done the same on earth. I am really interested in seeing her in reign of x and seeing if we get some cosmic powers of hers. Ngl i am hoping it proves to be quite controversial lmbo[/QUOTE]
Same.
Mags' expertise and proficiency certainly has more to do with his age how long he's been wielding those powers but it's also due to the fact that his is a very specialised ability. Where-as Storm's powers have greater range and complexities. That's why I get so annoyed with Lightning Lass taking front and centre so often and unimpressed with her "Goddess-hood" when the full range of her elemental abilities have gone largely unexplored.
So yeah...I too am looking forward to cosmic-level powers epicness.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5492309]That's what I was suspecting because if she can even use her powers in the astral plane then her mutation might really be the omega's omega mutation. Jean remarked once about how storms connection to the elements is something that she can barely comprehend.[/QUOTE]
are you talking about this exchange
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[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5492706]Finally got around to watching this video and I LOVE the idea of Storm exploring the multiverse. I feel like it makes her journey distinct from SWORD's (which is already a very solid book). I'm trying not to get my expectations too high, but the X-Office needs to stop playing with me![/QUOTE]
yes agreed. if the xoffices were to do something like that i would absolutely be elated but the xoffices track record here doesn't give me confidence. for instance the most recent being they said she would have a big part to do with XoS and for me that was a huge let down. So yes I agree I dont want to get my expectations high either lol.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5492211]Lol i just woke up and it''s 2am and i'm barely holding on but iove tis discussion about storm. Yes, stom used lightning in the astral plane to destroy bishop memory of hunting hope in uncany x-force. sorry for typos She has used her elemental powers several times on the astral plane which always stoof out to me[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5492137]During the extraordinary x-men story line I remember jean and storm going into an xman I think nightcrawler's head and looking through his memories. When the mob came to attack him storm created a wind storm to blow them away but jean told her that they are memories so they cannot be affected or something to that effect.so I wanna ask can storm manipulate the elements in the astral plane.[/QUOTE]
I believe that the Astral Plane is more of a psionic world than a physical one like ours. So, maybe she connected more to her psionic energies, instead of primal energies. When you think about it, the Astral plane is all about psionic and telepathic connection, and characters like Jean, Professor X and others exceed in that and they are able to use their powers to the fullest in the Astral Plane, so I think that something like a psionic connection to that environment happened for Storm, and she was able to manipulate the Astral plane's elements.
Don't forget that psionic stands behind the psychokinesis like telepathy, telekinesis and atmokinesis which is one of Storm's capabilities. Or at least one of them. A lot of people forget that the science behind Jean and Professor X's powers and other telepaths is psionic. Ororo is a psionic mutant as well, she should be fully capable of using her abilities in any dimension or realm, since she connects with its elements on psionic level. It seems like a lot of people don't get Storm's full capabilities yet.
This is a question for everybody. Who are your top 5 writers for Storm? Based on what I’ve read so far, I would have to say.
Chris Claremont
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Grek Pak
Jonathan Hickman
Len Wein
And I’ll give Gerry Duggan an honorable mention for him saying she’s the omega’s omega and the most powerful Knull avatar :)
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493085]I believe that the Astral Plane is more of a psionic world than a physical one like ours. So, maybe she connected more to her psionic energies, instead of primal energies. When you think about it, the Astral plane is all about psionic and telepathic connection, and characters like Jean, Professor X and others exceed in that and they are able to use their powers to the fullest in the Astral Plane, so I think that something like a psionic connection to that environment happened for Storm, and she was able to manipulate the Astral plane's elements.
Don't forget that psionic stands behind the psychokinesis like telepathy, telekinesis and atmokinesis which is one of Storm's capabilities. Or at least one of them. A lot of people forget that the science behind Jean and Professor X's powers and other telepaths is psionic. Ororo is a psionic mutant as well, she should be fully capable of using her abilities in any dimension or realm, since she connects with its elements on psionic level. It seems like a lot of people don't get Storm's full capabilities yet.[/QUOTE]
to go one step further this is why her abilities, beung able to perceive energy/forces, and manipulate it makes her so incredibly powerful. when you really dissect what all potentially she can do the many different applications are virtually limitless. this is why so many storm fans early on were saying she was an omega before it became official. the galatic core, healing the Trion dimension, channeling high mages powers to open inter-dimensional portals, etc. This woman can do way more than shoot lightning and your description i believe above is also another aspect of those abilities that would be within her powerset.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5493025]are you talking about this exchange
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Yes was looking for it thanks.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5493107]to go one step further this is why her abilities, beung able to perceive energy/forces, and manipulate it makes her so incredibly powerful. when you really dissect what all potentially she can do the many different applications are virtually limitless. this is why so many storm fans early on were saying she was an omega before it became official. the galatic core, healing the Trion dimension, channeling high mages powers to open inter-dimensional portals, etc. This woman can do way more than shoot lightning and your description [B]i believe above is also another aspect of those abilities that would be within her powerset.[/B][/QUOTE]
It is not really my description it is what literally says on her official Marvel Profile page. Her abilities are psionic and psionic means mental, just like Jean, Professor X and others, even though she specialize in a different field. She is an Omega for a reason and just Omega, she is the Omega's Omega, before her capabilities overshadow those of Jean, Magneto or Xavier.
When you think about it Jean and Professor X can implement thoughts or bend other minds through visual or mental thoughts, but Storm can do this literally on a primordial level, by rewriting the electric signals. She can make people do stuff, by empowering a certain portion of the mind and intensify that feeling. She can also block memories, erase them or fry them if the electric pulse hits the hippocampus, the neo-cortex of the amygdala. She can literally destroy memories, fried them or amend them with her powers. This is the thing which people don't get, yes Jean is a powerful, Omega Level Telepath, and what she can do, Storm can do much more brutal and direct. The only thing that Storm cannot do is probably read memories or look into them as a visual appearance. Something which only telepaths can do. And transfer information, as well.
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5493102]This is a question for everybody. Who are your top 5 writers for Storm? Based on what I’ve read so far, I would have to say.
Chris Claremont
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Grek Pak
Jonathan Hickman
Len Wein
And I’ll give Gerry Duggan an honorable mention for him saying she’s the omega’s omega and the most powerful Knull avatar :)[/QUOTE]
oooh this is a great question:
1. Tie Chris Claremont/Ta-Nahesi Coates
2. Christopher Yost (X-men World Apart)
3. Dewayne McDuffie (F4/Black Panther)
4. Terry Kavanagh, Alan Davis (Trion Dimension)
5. Yona Harvey
Honorable Mentions: Greg Pak, Nnedi Okorafor
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493115]It is not really my description it is what literally says on her official Marvel Profile page. Her abilities are psionic and psionic means mental, just like Jean, Professor X and others, even though she specialize in a different field. She is an Omega for a reason and just Omega, she is the Omega's Omega, before her capabilities overshadow those of Jean, Magneto or Xavier.
When you think about it Jean and Professor X can implement thoughts or bend other minds through visual or mental thoughts, but Storm can do this literally on a primordial level, by rewriting the electric signals. She can make people do stuff, by empowering a certain portion of the mind and intensify that feeling. She can also block memories, erase them or fry them if the electric pulse hits the hippocampus, the neo-cortex of the amygdala. She can literally destroy memories, fried them or amend them with her powers. This is the thing which people don't get, yes Jean is a powerful, Omega Level Telepath, and what she can do, Storm can do much more brutal and direct. The only thing that Storm cannot do is probably read memories or look into them as a visual appearance. Something which only telepaths can do. And transfer information, as well.[/QUOTE]
I think the thing about psionic power is that it is related to mental faculties. Will power is crucial and determines strength of said psionic ability. We already know that storms will is strong enough to host gods with ease and can wrest controll from dimensional gods in their own dimension and use it against them. And xavier has already started that her will is way stronger than even she realizes.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493115]It is not really my description it is what literally says on her official Marvel Profile page. Her abilities are psionic and psionic means mental, just like Jean, Professor X and others, even though she specialize in a different field. She is an Omega for a reason and just Omega, she is the Omega's Omega, before her capabilities overshadow those of Jean, Magneto or Xavier.
When you think about it Jean and Professor X can implement thoughts or bend other minds through visual or mental thoughts, but Storm can do this literally on a primordial level, by rewriting the electric signals. She can make people do stuff, by empowering a certain portion of the mind and intensify that feeling. She can also block memories, erase them or fry them if the electric pulse hits the hippocampus, the neo-cortex of the amygdala. She can literally destroy memories, fried them or amend them with her powers. This is the thing which people don't get, yes Jean is a powerful, Omega Level Telepath, and what she can do, Storm can do much more brutal and direct. The only thing that Storm cannot do is probably read memories or look into them as a visual appearance. Something which only telepaths can do. And transfer information, as well.[/QUOTE]
Didn't monica turn into neural electricity to look at people's memories and such?
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493115]It is not really my description it is what literally says on her official Marvel Profile page. Her abilities are psionic and psionic means mental, just like Jean, Professor X and others, even though she specialize in a different field. She is an Omega for a reason and just Omega, she is the Omega's Omega, before her capabilities overshadow those of Jean, Magneto or Xavier.
When you think about it Jean and Professor X can implement thoughts or bend other minds through visual or mental thoughts, but Storm can do this literally on a primordial level, by rewriting the electric signals. She can make people do stuff, by empowering a certain portion of the mind and intensify that feeling. She can also block memories, erase them or fry them if the electric pulse hits the hippocampus, the neo-cortex of the amygdala. She can literally destroy memories, fried them or amend them with her powers. This is the thing which people don't get, yes Jean is a powerful, Omega Level Telepath, and what she can do, Storm can do much more brutal and direct. The only thing that Storm cannot do is probably read memories or look into them as a visual appearance. Something which only telepaths can do. And transfer information, as well.[/QUOTE]
You are right. I think some people may interject and say her powers should not work ok the astral plane but when looking to how her powers work as you mentioned as described on the marvel page it shouldn't be a surprise.
Taking one step further to some of her obscure abilities is her mental rapport/spiritual bond to the planet and being able to feel her plants when they are thirsty and/or dying. Its a different aspect of her abilities but it all i believe correlates. I would say as it pertains to her connection with plant life/mother earth i see this as being more a spiritual aspect of her abilities. That said, you make excellent points regarding what she did to bishop to the unorthodox application of her abilities linking it all back to psionics' mechanics.
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5493114]Yes was looking for it thanks.[/QUOTE]
you're welcome beloved
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5493134]Didn't monica turn into neural electricity to look at people's memories and such?[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen that feat but it is one thing to turn yourself into energy and enter in someone's mind to read his electrical impulses, and it is an entirely different thing to only control it. There is no way for you to see what your energy sees when you control it unless you establish a powerful psionic connection. But Storm is not yet there. The other way to do it is for a small part of her to be turned into energy and for her to manipulate that energy of hers and reads through her psionic link what the energy sees, but that is entirely another field and something which Storm can't do yet. Separating a small part of yourself on an atomic level, cannot happen until you get at least elemental form or being able to turn into an elemental being and controlling every single atom of that elemental being. Something, which Storm hasn't done yet.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5493136]You are right. I think some people may interject and say her powers should not work ok the astral plane but when looking to how her powers work as you mentioned as described on the marvel page it shouldn't be a surprise.
Taking one step further to some of her obscure abilities is her mental rapport/spiritual bond to the planet and being able to feel her plants when they are thirsty and/or dying. Its a different aspect of her abilities but it all i believe correlates. I would say as it pertains to her connection with plant life/mother earth i see this as being more a spiritual aspect of her abilities. That said, you make excellent points regarding what she did to bishop to the unorthodox application of her abilities linking it all back to psionics' mechanics.[/QUOTE]
That is why I got angry when someone said above that she cannot use her powers without telepathic help. Telepathy is a psionic ability, Storm abilities are psionic as well, she should be capable to do what Telepaths do, and what telepaths do in the Astral plane is materialize their psionic constructions, and I am quite certain that Storm can do the same, however, her psionic constructions would be weather-related phenomena, like storm constructions, or wind constructions, etc.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493149]I haven't seen that feat but it is one thing to turn yourself into energy and enter in someone's mind to read his electrical impulses, and it is an entirely different thing to only control it. There is no way for you to see what your energy sees when you control it unless you establish a powerful psionic connection. But Storm is not yet there. The other way to do it is for a small part of her to be turned into energy and for her to manipulate that energy of hers and reads through her psionic link what the energy sees, but that is entirely another field and something which Storm can't do yet. Separating a small part of yourself on an atomic level, cannot happen until you get at least elemental form or being able to turn into an elemental being and controlling every single atom of that elemental being. Something, which Storm hasn't done yet.
That is why I got angry when someone said above that she cannot use her powers without telepathic help. Telepathy is a psionic ability, Storm abilities are psionic as well, she should be capable to do what Telepaths do, and what telepaths do in the Astral plane is materialize their psionic constructions, and I am quite certain that Storm can do the same, however, her psionic constructions would be weather-related phenomena, like storm constructions, or wind constructions, etc.[/QUOTE]
well I think this is something that should be explored.
can storm use her powers to read minds like telepaths do: No
can storm make mental illusions, mental projections, etc., via telepathy: No
can storm enter the astral plane as telepaths do at will: No
can storm once in the astral plane use her powers: Yes for the reasons you mentioned.
the only help I see that ororo requires is entry into the astral plane but once there she has shown a few times she can deploy her powers on her own and without the aide of a telepath.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5493158]well I think this something that should be explored.
can storm use her powers to read minds like telepaths do: No
can storm make mental illusions, mental projections, etc., via telepathy: No
can storm enter the astral plane as telepaths do at will: No
can storm once in the astral plane use her powers: Yes for the reasons you mentioned.
the only help I see that ororo requires is entry into the astral plane but once there she has shown a few times she can deploy her powers on her own.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't she able to enter another plane via her crystal? If I remember correctly, by people who mentioned here, is that Storm was able to follow T'Challa in that dimension (Death's dimension or the Astral dimension) to save him from death or something. Or am I getting the dimensions wrong?
Also, if she can use the crystal to enter in other dimensions, shouldn't she be able to do the same to enter the Astral Dimension without the help of Telepaths? I would out that third part into uncertain or unknown than strict no.
Also for the first one, it is a hard yes, but she can do that via Empathy not via Telepathy. When a person is an Empath, they can read people's emotions, feelings and their surface thoughts and even look into people's past, especially if those past moments are connected with strong emotions. I know that from personal experience since I am an Empath and I've been able to read people like no one else and even catch their surface thoughts or see their past clearly like a picture or a movie. The stronger the emotions, the more vivid the image is.
[QUOTE=The92Ghost;5493163]Wasn't she able to enter another plane via her crystal? If I remember correctly, by people who mentioned here, is that Storm was able to follow T'Challa in that dimension (Death's dimension or the Astral dimension) to save him from death or something. Or am I getting the dimensions wrong?
Also, if she can use the crystal to enter in other dimensions, shouldn't she be able to do the same to enter the Astral Dimension without the help of Telepaths? I would out that third part into uncertain or unknown than strict no.[/QUOTE]
well again I'm only speaking to what she has been able to do unaided. in the case of tchalla when she entered limbo to save his life she needed the aid of a shaman like character. not familiar with the crystal story but even then based upon your statement she required the crystal.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5493166]well again I'm only speaking to what she has been able to do unaided. in the case of tchalla when she entered limbo to save his life she needed the aid of a shaman like character. not familiar with the crystal story but even then based upon your statement she required the crystal.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I guess you are right about that. I also added more to my comment above.