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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5716258][B]When you try to rationalize feats with sloppy science, it doesn't help your cause[/B]. Coates's page makes zero sense, and the Ultimate page is just a fancy version of watering a parched flower. She could've just poured that bottled water on and had the kids wait 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Cough…..follow your own advice …..cough!
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[QUOTE=Micabe;5716260]I wonder if an argument can be made to support Ororo being capable of casually swimming in a live volcano.[/QUOTE]
Lightning is far hotter, so sure, an argument could be made.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5716258]When you try to rationalize feats with sloppy science, it doesn't help your cause. Coates's page makes zero sense, and the Ultimate page is just a fancy version of watering a parched flower. She could've just poured that bottled water on and had the kids wait 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
And photosynthesis isn't just about chloroplasts creating sugar through water and sunlight, it's also a process performed by plants to produce the energy needed for their SURVIVAL, in this case the sugar. Who is with a sloppy remark about science is you. I accept counterpoints as long as it makes total sense, your arguments don't make sense.
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[QUOTE=Micabe;5716260]I wonder if an argument can be made to support Ororo being capable of casually swimming in a live volcano.[/QUOTE]
Considering that it has already flown by solar winds in space that has an average of one million degrees celcius and has not been disintegrated, maybe it can.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5716141]Simple rehydratation? I don’t think so, We have the receipts !!!
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In Avatar, the waterbenders had a sub-skills, which allowed them to manipulate plants, vines controlling only the water within the plant's body.
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Go learn about turgor pressure and then you will understand what I was saying. She simply watered the plant. Storm in 616 and 1610 does not have chlorokinesis. Characters like Flourish, Nature Girl, or Brother Nature do. Storm loves plants and in her earliest appearances might have been able to actually communicate with them, but she can't make them grow unnaturally. That Coates page is an outlier, like Wolverine being able to specifically communicate with Zabu. It happened once and was never followed up on. Best guess is a 'goddess energy' side effects, but Coates didn't specify, and he certainly didn't say she used 'subatomic and molecular level' powers to make them grow. You two are reeeeaching, and it's stuff like this that gives Storm fans a bad reputation.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5716300]Go learn about turgor pressure and then you will understand what I was saying. She simply watered the plant. Storm in 616 and 1610 does not have chlorokinesis. Characters like Flourish, Nature Girl, or Brother Nature do. Storm loves plants and in her earliest appearances might have been able to actually communicate with them, but she can't make them grow unnaturally. That Coates page is an outlier, like Wolverine being able to specifically communicate with Zabu. It happened once and was never followed up on. Best guess is a 'goddess energy' side effects, but Coates didn't specify, and he certainly didn't say she used 'subatomic and molecular level' powers to make them grow. You two are reeeeaching, and it's stuff like this that gives Storm fans a bad reputation.[/QUOTE]
Friend, the chloroplast is a cell organelle responsible for synthesizing the elements necessary for photosynthesis to be actually carried out. At no time was it said that storm has chlorokinesis, who is saying this is you.
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even if Storm only wet the plant, it would still take hours for the flower to rise again, so you contradict yourself.
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[QUOTE=Stormy;5716294]In Avatar, the waterbenders had a sub-skills, which allowed them to manipulate plants, vines controlling only the water within the plant's body.[/QUOTE]
Indeed but they did not turn a bunch of sprouts into a room-sized jungle
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5716317]At no time was it said that storm has chlorokinesis, who is saying this is you.[/QUOTE]
I brought the word into the discussion, but you and Daedra are the ones suggesting she can make plants grow unnaturally(which is what chlorokinesis is). She can force water into(and out of) people/animals/plants as per her control over water, but she can not[B] directly control plant metabolism[/B].
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I'm not sure about all the science involved but i believe the plants were growing as a result of her divine energy. as she connected to the cosmos her "goddess force" caused the plants to grow.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5716516]I'm not sure about all the science involved but i believe the plants were growing as a result of her divine energy. as she connected to the cosmos her "goddess force" caused the plants to grow.[/QUOTE]
That is the only reasonable explanation. Too bad Coates left it so esoteric and ambiguous.
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5716323]even if Storm only wet the plant, it would still take hours for the flower to rise again, so you contradict yourself.[/QUOTE]
I think this is a fair argument. providing the plant with simply water wouldn't cause it to go from being withered to being full of life. again not sure whats going on but simply watering the plant would not revive it at the speed it seems to have been in that scan.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5716517]That is the only reasonable explanation. Too bad Coates left it so esoteric and ambiguous.[/QUOTE]
now I will add the goddess effect could directly result in what dae and Amazon are mentioning. I think both of these scenarios can be true at the same time.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5716522]now I will add the goddess effect could directly result in what dae and Amazon are mentioning. I think both of these scenarios can be true at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Sure, every aspect of Ororo’s power is pervaded by her godhood, marvel’s reality has multiple angles after all.
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5716317]Friend, the chloroplast is a cell organelle responsible for synthesizing the elements necessary for photosynthesis to be actually carried out. At no time was it said that storm has chlorokinesis, who is saying this is you.[/QUOTE]
Now we know storm has power over the elements within the body of living organisms and we know she has direct control over chemical energy so could it be that she speed up the metabolism of the sprouts whilst also creating viable conditions for photosynthesis? But then again I believe the space plant feats was a result of her connection to the vast cosmic energies around her as she literally was not focused on the plants but connecting to various fields of energies at once.... All in all it's a bit too ambiguous as to weather it's a goddess feat or it is an omega level feat.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5715983]Lightning generates photons. It also generates x-rays, gamma rays, and anti-matter. Storm should be able to utilize/control all those facets, as they are elements of the weather.[/QUOTE]
I know thunderstorms generate gamma rays..... but with photons and the rest, I never heard it any sources? Lightning is made from electrons and ions. Photons aren't composed of any of that. The only light in a lightning bolt is the flash of light from it as far as I know.
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[QUOTE=dirtynun;5716541]Now we know storm has power over the elements within the body of living organisms and we know she has direct control over chemical energy so could it be that she speed up the metabolism of the sprouts whilst also creating viable conditions for photosynthesis? But then again I believe the space plant feats was a result of her connection to the vast cosmic energies around her as she literally was not focused on the plants but connecting to various fields of energies at once.... All in all it's a bit too ambiguous as to weather it's a goddess feat or it is an omega level feat.[/QUOTE]
But I speak of an alternate universe. About the episode of black panther, I believe it was due to its connection with energy cosmica, I talked about it lol
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So we're applying science to fiction plant manipulation? Storm has manipulated plant growth several times along with characters like Poison Ivy and etc. This power is not realistic but it's there due to fiction. So you're going to break your need trying to downplay it instead of enjoying the power of Storm.
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But I think this connection she had with the cosmos was due to her powers. I think it connects with primordial energies that govern nature.
think Storm divinity is beyond the universal level.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5716606]I know thunderstorms generate gamma rays..... but with photons and the rest, I never heard it any sources? Lightning is made from electrons and ions. Photons aren't composed of any of that. The only light in a lightning bolt is [B]the flash of light[/B] from it as far as I know.[/QUOTE]
What would that flash of light be made of? ;)
Here's a simple explanation of the relationship between electrons and photons.
[video=youtube;YjgSRaDaKSM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgSRaDaKSM[/video]
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5716323]even if Storm only wet the plant, it would still take hours for the flower to rise again, so you contradict yourself.[/QUOTE]
A dehydrated plant can take minutes to flourish when properly rehydrated. Not hours. I have a garden, but you can test it yourself.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5716994]A dehydrated plant can take minutes to flourish when properly rehydrated. Not hours. I have a garden, but you can test it yourself.[/QUOTE]
I remembered a video where using a soda, I think sprite in a vase of dead or withered flowers, if I'm not mistaken they recover in hours or days ..
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One of the Storm's greatest feats was when it connected with the diverse energy fields of the universe, with the microclimates and life support of the intergalactic spacecraft, which advanced through space to subjugate Wakanda. The flora that was around him resonated in advanced growth, Storm was also connected to his spacecraft's life supports favoring the photosynthesis process to eliminate CO2 (carbon dioxide) and process O2 (Oxygen).
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5716994]A dehydrated plant can take minutes to flourish when properly rehydrated. Not hours. I have a garden, but you can test it yourself.[/QUOTE]
it depends on the species of the plant, on the intensity of solar energy due to the greenhouse effect that is necessary. Anyway, what I mean is, that regardless of the case, it still takes time.
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And just like ocean currents, vegetation is one of the factors that determine the climate, it is one of the climatic factors.
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Not y'all in here trying to make Storm have powers like being able to control how fast plants grow lmao
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[QUOTE=metalclouds;5717612]Not y'all in here trying to make Storm have powers like being able to control how fast plants grow lmao[/QUOTE]
I mean we were all collectively tripping when she made an indoor jungle whilst connecting to the cosmic landscape in black panther.
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[QUOTE=metalclouds;5717612]Not y'all in here trying to make Storm have powers like being able to control how fast plants grow lmao[/QUOTE]
lmaoooooooo omg
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[QUOTE=Amazona dos ventos;5717260]And just like ocean currents, vegetation is one of the factors that determine the climate, it is one of the climatic factors.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=metalclouds;5717612]Not y'all in here trying to make Storm have powers like being able to control how fast plants grow lmao[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=dirtynun;5717842]I mean we were all collectively tripping when she made an indoor jungle whilst connecting to the cosmic landscape in black panther.[/QUOTE]
Should Storm have a mushroom form?
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Looks at this page, takes a breath...
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5717922]Looks at this page, takes a breath...
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Must be hard reading these forum and being bothered by simple jokes……..
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Storm bought to start handing out new vaginas based on this thread. lol. i just can't. The climate of a woman. lol
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[QUOTE=jwatson;5717961]Storm bought to start handing out new vaginas based on this thread. lol. i just can't. The climate of a woman. lol[/QUOTE]
I just love the genericness of her power description in the omegas spreadsheet :p
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;5716821]What would that flash of light be made of? ;)
Here's a simple explanation of the relationship between electrons and photons.
[video=youtube;YjgSRaDaKSM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgSRaDaKSM[/video][/QUOTE]
The flash of light is not apart of the bolt. The bolt itself is made out of ions and electrons. Photons aren't made of Ions or Electrons therefore it's not a part of the bolt.
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[QUOTE=Daedra;5717978]I just love the genericness of her power description in the omegas spreadsheet :p
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OMG how could you do this to me. I got wine all over myself. Like loud ass lmao. I forget what great face michelle could give and saying my fave line since i was 4. LMAO. I'm dead. lol
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So you're applying real science to make your point that Storm didn't manipulate the plant growth? Keep in mind these were plants that haven't even bloomed yet for storm only grew them by watering them? You do realize while you're applying real-life science to most parts of fiction you'll get nowhere.
1. If a flower in real life has not bloomed yet or mostly any plant you can literally kill that plant by giving it too much water
2. Please name a plant that grows in minutes of being watered.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5717993]So you're applying real science to make your point that Storm didn't manipulate the plant growth? Keep in mind these were plants that haven't even bloomed yet for storm only grew them by watering them? You do realize while you're applying real-life science to most parts of fiction you'll get nowhere.
1. If a flower in real life has not bloomed yet or mostly any plant you can literally kill that plant by giving it too much water
2. Please name a plant that grows in minutes of being watered.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if this is general question or if your asking someone specific. If it's general i didn't think about it one way or the other but i'm more incline to go with divine energy over suddenly making plants grow once with no info behind it at all or anything that shows her powers have ever been able to do it.
Though honestly i just thought coates was trying to be deep and artistic. I mean it didn't feel that way but i felt he tried. Like it was suppose to be some deep forest in space imagery.
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[QUOTE=KLY360;5717985]The flash of light is not apart of the bolt. The bolt itself is made out of ions and electrons. Photons aren't made of Ions or Electrons therefore it's not a part of the bolt.[/QUOTE]
Ionized air/plasma releases photons as they are exciting and relaxing the electrons. Think of the electrons as clouds and photons as the rain that falls from clouds under certain conditions. Photons and electrons are both quanta of electromagnetism(force as light, negatively charged matter, respectively). The photoelectric effect, and solar powered electricity, for example, show they are connected. Storm controls all the elements of weather. Photons from the sun bring its energy to earth, the energetic source of the weather(along with extrasolar energy from deeper space).
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Wow so many "science" in this thread...