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[QUOTE=Idiopop;5531140]Someone had the nerve to say Hulk would stomp Storm. It’s funny because hasn’t she beaten him already? And Knull did say she was stronger than him as well during King In Black.[/QUOTE]
Ahh i just liike both of them and feel they would have a great conversation given immortal hulk and hulk's own thought on krakoa.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5531452]Im coinfused how wanting to see Storm and Hulk hang out turned into a battle. lol.[/QUOTE]
This is comics, there is no hanging out without a proper fight between the heroes involved.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5531461]This is comics, there is no hanging out without a proper fight between the heroes involved.[/QUOTE]
I guess to each their own. That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me though.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5531443]Umar was able to defeat hulk, dormammu was able to defeat hulk, Zeus was able to defeat hulk, brother voodo was able to defeat hulk, dr strange would have defeated hulk if he had ignored innocent people getting harmed while he was in zom form, Storm can shut down the hulk in so many ways it’s not even funny, there is not a realistic scenario where he doesn’t get dominated by a brain functioning Ororo.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the amount of times ororo gets owned Medusa kicked her ass,she got knocked out by ant mans bug zappers,a super ape kicks her ass.Hell she was trapped in a plastic field and panicked of claustrophobia.Thor ko's her with a KISS,she can't affect a weakened magneto.Hulk could(and has) take all those things one on one(most of them with ease).All the people you have mentioned would kill storm without a second thought.This is the worst argument I have ever seen on a forum ever.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5531461]This is comics, there is no hanging out without a proper fight between the heroes involved.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes.You are a man of culture
On another note.Do we know which book will storm be in now that she has left marauders
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5531344]As Knull stated storm was his most powerful avatar and hulk was possessed by him as well.
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Hulk hasn't a chance based upon the analysis of knull god himself.[/QUOTE]
Ohk so I think we take knull's statement as in the here and now. Which it is but remember re is not just a god he is primordial he would have access to certain things and parts of storm and her power that even she is not aware of. I think when he said that he meant her potential which is well limitless not only because of the omega but because she is also a god. But lately hulk well if we thought he was op before he is practically unbeatable now. That is ohk that is good Al Ewing has developed him and his power to that state now but Duggan won't be allowed to say she is the omegas omega if she didn't have something that inherently puts her above them.
I was debating some people and they said she being the strongest omega is not possible. And truly based on her feats though greater than a lot of omegas it certainly doesn't make her the omega amongst them. Like Duggan literally stated that she storm is beyond omega the only charachter to get this moniker in the new x-men era. These beyond omega charachters are universal to multiversal threats. I hope what they mean people would talk about storm it alludes to what they do pertaining that.
Because when knull said what he said, thor had just defeated galactus and a multiversal storm, Dr strange had his classic Dr strange powers, Hulk was there with all his latest development along with most of the heroes. I mean he killed sentry no problem didn't even acknowledge him and his might but with storm he said something little light. I believe he refers to the beyond omega power within her that she has to grow and nurture. Also haven't you noticed professor X is a bit weird towards storm in all of dawn of x he hasn't demonstrated this attitude to any omega. He was extremely confident about storms power that he believed she alone could take knull down that when all the heroes fell he still kept going only pausing and frowning when storm was taking off the board. Again I think this alludes to her latent potential to surpass omega something that is practically impossible.
The omega class denotes power so vast it's incalculable. The truth is that no omega mutant doesn't have limits to their power it's just that the limits well can't be surpassed because of how vast it is. It's practically impossible to pass something that close to infinity. But I think this means storm is the only mutant that has true infinite power and that's what Duggans statement alludes to.
[QUOTE=Spiderfan001;5531520]On another note.Do we know which book will storm be in now that she has left marauders[/QUOTE]
We don't know some are speculating sword due to the mysterum and it's ties to storm others are saying hickman's book. I mean he and JD White were raving about how storm is going to be the it girl in this era. So we are waiting.
Honestly anyone can beat anyone. I've read immortal hulk and he isn't so all powerful that he doesn't keep getting killed. I mean sure he can come back but some of the things that have killed him Storm or many others could do with a powerful hurricane created inside his heart and then expanding outwards. Or Hulk could fall on Storm and kill her. in the end it really doesn't matter because anyone can write anyone beating anyone at anytime and it's as believable as people want to believe.
As for what's i don't know. I like the idea of Sword but i'm holding out for something more. I want to see Hickman tackle the stuff that was in Mystic Arcana and i think Storm would fit in that world perfectly but then i like the idea of space too but sword has a big cast so i'm not sure how much focused story can be there for storm but that's not to say there isn't.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5531539]Honestly anyone can beat anyone. I've read immortal hulk and he isn't so all powerful that he doesn't keep getting killed. I mean sure he can come back but some of the things that have killed him Storm or many others could do with a powerful hurricane created inside his heart and then expanding outwards. Or Hulk could fall on Storm and kill her. in the end it really doesn't matter because anyone can write anyone beating anyone at anytime and it's as believable as people want to believe.
As for what's i don't know. I like the idea of Sword but i'm holding out for something more. I want to see Hickman tackle the stuff that was in Mystic Arcana and i think Storm would fit in that world perfectly but then i like the idea of space too but sword has a big cast so i'm not sure how much focused story can be there for storm but that's not to say there isn't.[/QUOTE]
I mean Sue storm can beat storm doesn't mean she is more powerful it is simply because Sue's power is something I don't think storm can counter as of yet.
Especially her psionic blocking shields. But that doesn't put sue above storm she herself even said storm is a goddess and watched her destroy an entire alien Horder she and captain marvel was struggling against single handedly with no effort.
Yh me tooo I mean she has power that is beyond any mutation even the omega kind.
[QUOTE=jwatson;5531452]Im coinfused how wanting to see Storm and Hulk hang out turned into a battle. lol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daedra;5531461]This is comics, there is no hanging out without a proper fight between the heroes involved.[/QUOTE]
This is Marvel. You know before they become friends they have to have a proper fight over a small misunderstanding about how to properly season the food for the bbq :p
[QUOTE=twisted sun;5531608]This is Marvel. You know before they become friends they have to have a proper fight over a small misunderstanding about how to properly season the food for the bbq :p[/QUOTE]
lol i guess. I think it would be cool seeing someone who for the most part is immune to gamma radiation, ie genosha unaided. Also as a goddess of life she could offer a unique perspective to the Gamma Hell and the green door etc. I would love to see Ewing have her take a walk through that world and see her perspective on what is happening with the gamma mutates and the various energies they are tied to. Her energy vision alone could offer Banner some unique information.
[URL="https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/"]https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/[/URL]
[QUOTE=juan678;5531670][URL="https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/"]https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
This makes me think of the future Thor and his grand daughters and one of them looked like punk storm riding a space whale.
So, two points:
-From everything I read regarding Storm and Hulk, the argument that Storm is too powerful to carry a solo and writers wouldn't know what to do with her is over 9,000 level b.s.
-That article doesn't mention Storm's godhood at all even though she herself confirms she's a storm god now. Yet they referred to her being an Omega.
[QUOTE=juan678;5531670][URL="https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/"]https://www.cbr.com/thor-storm-weather-changing-duo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Great article. I love how they mentioned Storm role in Human/Mutant Relationship. How she still willing to fight for the world and humankind.
So anyway, any sort of versus stuff is taken to the rumbles forum. Why? Because surprisingly comic books don't always make sense.
So Hulk vs Storm stuff can go there plz.
So in context of appreciating storm it was stated Storm is viewed as a silly girl who was believed to be a goddess. That was true in her solo it was revealed her village knew she was not a real goddess:
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however as noted in Black Panther (2016) issue 17 it was later revealed she is an actual goddess even though she did not believe herself to be one. Since that reveal there have been several books which have referred to her as a literal goddess including the more recent xmen man-thing book in which the cbr article summarizes and interestinglyleaves that part out, she was not mentioned once to being an omega in that issue:
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I've noticed a trend with the cbr articles relative to storm and they seem to never acknowledge the reveal Coates made in BP. I don't imagine this will change until the xbooks makes it clear (even though there have been enough stories since that make it pretty clear and canon is canon regardless of which office it stems from but whatever) but at this point there have been so many references to her as an actual goddess I do not understand why this is even a debate at this point.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5531981]So in context of appreciating storm it was stated Storm is viewed as a silly girl who was believed to be a goddess. That was true in her solo it was revealed her village knew she was not a real goddess:
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however as noted in Black Panther (2016) issue 17 it was later revealed she is an actual goddess even though she did not believe herself to be one. Since that reveal there hsve been several books which have referred to her as a literal goddess including the more recent xmen man-thing book in which the cbr article summarizes:
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I've noticed a trend with the cbr articles relative to storm and they seem to never acknowledge the reveal Coates made in BP. I don't imagine this will change until the xbooks makes it clear but at this point there have been so many references to her as an actual goddess I do not understand why this is even a debate at this point.[/QUOTE]
Yup.She didn't start of as one but was retconned into being one.She has been one for a while now and it suits her.I hope they keep it
[QUOTE=Spiderfan001;5531987]Yup.She didn't start of as one but was retconned into being one.She has been one for a while now and it suits her.I hope they keep it[/QUOTE]
actually she did start as one. giant size had her literally being worshipped as a goddess.
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Charles Xavier came behind that and said she wasn't one. she even questions if he manipulated her in that first encounter:
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the story from her solo was an actual retcon and it was revealed that original depiction as a goddess was correct by way of black panther.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5531990]actually she did start as one. giant size had her literally being worshipped as a goddess.
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Charles Xavier came behind that and said she wasn't one. she even questions if he manipulated her in that first encounter:
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the story from her solo was an actual retcon and it was revealed that original depiction as a goddess was correct by way of black panther.[/QUOTE]
Being called a goddess and worshipped as one is different from actually being one.It's like if people worshipped Superman:It doesn't make him a god does it.Or maybe it does.The definition of GOD in the MU is confusing af.Let's leave it at that
[QUOTE=Spiderfan001;5532001]Being called a goddess and worshipped as one is different from actually being one.It's like if people worshipped Superman:It doesn't make him a god does it.Or maybe it does.The definition of GOD in the MU is confusing af.Let's leave it at that[/QUOTE]
what makes Santa claus "real" is not that he is actually real but the l lbelief children have in him. that is the part that gives him life. for those villagers, storm was very much a goddess. when they prayed for rain she provided it. why wouldn't they believe her to be a god when her actions showed that she could deliver on the request of her followers?
in the case of storm it's not confusing as it has been explained by way of her heritage the faith those had in her allowed her to ascend to godhood. this is a concept (divinity through faith and prayer) that is even true for asgard.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532009]what makes Santa claus "real" is not that he is actually real but the l lbelief children have in him. that is the part that gives him life. for those villagers, storm was very much a goddess. when they prayed for rain she provided it. why wouldn't they believe her to be a god when her actions showed that she could deliver on the request of her followers?
in the case of storm it's not confusing as it has been explained by way of her heritage the faith those had in her allowed her to ascend to godhood. this is a concept (divinity through faith and prayer) that is even true for asgard.[/QUOTE]
Well if that is how Godhood is defined in the MU then she is a god.Other than the part where the villagers knew that she was not a god but that was a retcon right?I am confused lol.She is a goddess now so its all cool
[QUOTE=Spiderfan001;5532023]Well if that is how Godhood is defined in the MU then she is a god.Other than the part where the villagers knew that she was not a god but that was a retcon right?I am confused lol.She is a goddess now so its all cool[/QUOTE]
all that matters is she is a goddess now currently and an omega. two things many of her distractors said she was not not that many years ago. its a great time to be a storm fan!
My simplistic take on the Goddess issue...
In GS-XM 01...the Kenyan natives worshipped her as a Goddess because they saw her doing miraculous weather feats. Storm, like her Tribe, not knowing what a Mutant was at the time also believed herself as such until Xavier showed up and told her the truth, as he knew it then. That she was a Mutant and not a Goddess (how would he have known if she was?)
And Storm believed him. (We all believed him.) And lived her life as Storm-Mutant Mistress of the Elements!, for the greater good of mutants and all mankind. No shame there.
(The subsequent mentions of her being a "Goddess" have always alluded to that time in Kenya before Xavier recruited her...a little tongue-in-cheek most times, self-recriminating some times, to strike fear a few times well...but never uttered with absolute truth and certainty...except for that time in Asgard when Loki was playing the fool.)
Then came the various feats and natural growth and development of her powers and the understanding that there is (has always been) a direct and divine connection to the Bright Lady. Not that she hid it or disregarded it (she always believed in that connection and it was always there...even when she lost her powers)...she just never explored it or felt she needed to tap into it, as her powers were more or less fully realised and sufficient for the tasks at hand.
Until Wakanda and her second showdown with the Adversary.
And now that she's fully tapped into that Divine Power/Connection (the details of which we're all still clue-less...hence the need for in-depth exploration) she can't not own it. It is there. For her to acknowledge and embrace fully. (Personal Head-canonically...why recently she's felt her time on Earth and Krakoa is at a crossroads and she desires something greater, it could be the God-Head speaking to her)
Technically she's still human/Omega mutant but with full access to Divine Powers. She's never gone full "Goddess-Mode" since the Wakanda episode. Even that recent appearance with Thor...it was great but it just seemed like Storm flexing her O-L muscles...because she's quite naturally capable of accomplishing Global-level feats as shown in recent posts.
We really need that Storm limited series to explore and define that deep, open well. Is her far-reaching Omega powers a smaller expression of her Divinity? Or does her new-awakened Divine Connection allow her to supersede her Omega limits. Where does one end and the other begin? Are they actually separate or were they one and the same all along and was just waiting for the right time and conditions to fully manifest?
In summation...
Was she always a Goddess? No...not in the truest sense of the word. Is she a Goddess now? Yes...when she accesses that aspect and power within her.
Storm has always been what she was. a literal goddess.
DaveC.& Len w &Chris C, established this.any retcon stating other is just trash and should ignored. Glad Coated did it , But I never needed him to confirm what all of Comicdom already knew. Same way we been knew she was Omega , thanks for officially confirming but we always knew.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;5532383]Storm has always been what she was. a literal goddess.
DaveC.& Len w &Chris C, established this.any retcon stating other is just trash and should ignored. Glad Coated did it , But I never needed him to confirm what all of Comicdom already knew. Same way we been knew she was Omega , thanks for officially confirming but we always knew.[/QUOTE]
Well I for once would like to see her godly nature explicitly explored cause as it stand right now it’s mostly comprised of a bunch of glorified panels with the use of hyperbolic dialogues.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532622]yea why would a site like cbr be opposed to acknowledging what has been stated across the marvel offices? what would be the point of this?[/QUOTE]
Because the concept didn’t really take off, it was lightly established during the adversary fight and it hasn’t been really explored or explained since, the details are nebulous and open to interpretation at best. Storm needs a solo series to really spell it out, I’ll never tire to say it.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5532655]Because the concept didn’t really take off, it was lightly established during the adversary fight and it hasn’t been really explored or explained since, the details are nebulous and open to interpretation at best. Storm needs a solo series to really spell it out, I’ll never tire to say it.[/QUOTE]
I agree a solo series would be nice. the crazy thing is I've seen her referred to as a goddess and has goddess feats more than I've seen her referenced as a omega level mutant. even in the article where she refers to herself as a god they reference her as omega yet that term was not used to describe her. point being I have not seen any real stories other than the data page about her being omega. it seems to be even less there with her omega status, so that to me doesn't really make sense.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532662]I agree a solo series would be nice. the crazy thing is I've seen her referred to as a goddess and has goddess feats more than I've seen her referenced as a omega level mutant. even in the article where she refers to herself as a god they reference her as omega yet that term was not used to describe her. point being I have not seen any real stories other than the data page about her being omega. it seems to be even less there with her omega status, so that to me doesn't really make sense.[/QUOTE]
My impression is that most people just assume she’s not literally claiming godhood but metaphorically referring to her status as super powered individual……. I’m not sure Jordan D W has given any real consideration to Ororo nature beyond her status as omega level mutant, the godly aspect is painted as a colorful way to describe her as very powerful and it kinda feels like that’s just it when it comes to the x-offices. It’s been years and we are still waiting for any significant personal story progress.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5532688]My impression is that most people just assume she’s not literally claiming godhood but metaphorically referring to her status as super powered individual……. I’m not sure Jordan D W has given any real consideration to Ororo nature beyond her status as omega level mutant, the godly aspect is painted as a colorful way to describe her as very powerful and it kinda feels like that’s just it when it comes to the x-offices. It’s been years and we are still waiting for any significant personal story progress.[/QUOTE]
I guess I would ask are there any other characters where canonical changes have occurred and it for whatever was ignored? When rogue had all her changes in the avengers book she was in were these changes to her character ignored because it was not through the xoffices? JDW, based upon what I've seen on twitter, most certainly hasn't given any thought honestly. One of his last posts I saw about her he mentioned her powers shouldn't work in space and it didn't make sense. Storm fans politely provided receipts showing the opposite and then he disappeared from social. If that doesn't make sense im certain this godhead stuff doesnt either.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532725]I guess I would ask are there any other characters where canonical changes have occurred and it for whatever was ignored? When rogue had all her changes in the avengers book she was in were these changes to her character ignored because it was not through the xoffices? JDW, based upon what I've seen on twitter, most certainly hasn't given any thought honestly. One of his last posts I saw about her he mentioned her powers shouldn't work in space and it didn't make sense. Storm fans politely provided receipts showing the opposite and then he disappeared from social. If that doesn't make sense im certain this godhead stuff doesnt either.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but who’s JDW?
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5532740]Sorry but who’s JDW?[/QUOTE]
Jordan D White. the current senior xmen editor. he is the main editor but not sure what his official title is.
sidebar: I've seen this referenced a couple of times and couldn't independently verify it. is anyone aware of storm manipulating light make herself invisible?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532725]I guess I would ask are there any other characters where canonical changes have occurred and it for whatever was ignored? When rogue had all her changes in the avengers book she was in were these changes to her character ignored because it was not through the xoffices? JDW, based upon what I've seen on twitter, most certainly hasn't given any thought honestly. One of his last posts I saw about her he mentioned her powers shouldn't work in space and it didn't make sense. Storm fans politely provided receipts showing the opposite and then he disappeared from social. If that doesn't make sense im certain this godhead stuff doesnt either.[/QUOTE]
To be honest one thing I will always miss about classic comic book writing is the willingness to pontificate about the stuff shown on panel by using text boxes or expository dialogue, nowadays you are never actually sure about half the stuff featured, is it the product of specific instructions from the writer? Artistic license from the penciler? In the 80’s and 90’s The editors were willing to take a risk and properly establish interesting tidbits about the characters……….. at present on the other hand it is all half cooked waffling…….they can’t take a decision and stand by it.
[QUOTE=Daedra;5532755]To be honest one thing I will always miss about classic comic book writing is the willingness to pontificate about the stuff shown on panel by using text boxes or expository dialogue, nowadays you are never actually sure about half the stuff featured, is it the product of specific instructions from the writer? Artistic license from the penciler? In the 80’s and 90’s The editors were willing to take a risk and properly establish interesting tidbits about the characters……….. at present on the other hand it is all half cooked waffling…….they can’t take a decision and stand by it.[/QUOTE]
I certainly miss it too. one of the many things I loved about Claremont's writing.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532752]Jordan D White. the current senior xmen editor. he is the main editor but not sure what his official title is.
sidebar: I've seen this referenced a couple of times and couldn't independently verify it. is anyone aware of storm manipulating light make herself invisible?[/QUOTE]
I haven’t seen any feats myself. I would love to though because I think it’s very well within her power-set. The EM Spectrum is a major source of her powers and it should be explored more.
[QUOTE=Idiopop;5532810]I haven’t seen any feats myself. I would love to though because I think it’s very well within her power-set. The EM Spectrum is a major source of her powers and it should be explored more.[/QUOTE]
yea I dont think this has actually occurred but considering she can control energy on the em spectrum it would make sense she could bend light too.
I'm not sure why but this made me laugh
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;5532893]I'm not sure why but this made me laugh
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yassssssssss clock that bish honey!!!
I love her hair there
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;5532899]yassssssssss clock that bish honey!!!
I love her hair there[/QUOTE]
Lol, I got a strong "Mofu, I don't speak to hear myself talk" moment from that.