What do you think of Hickmans X-Men so far, still Interested or Not ??

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5540157]Yeah I agree with those statements. It's just weird to me that fans are so quick to call all of Krakoa a supremacist nation (and have been actively been against their new segregationist views), but then they want mutants to give humans the benefit of the doubt and not generalize them based on the actions of some few governments and particularly hateful individuals. I figured the thought of reintegrating would make fans who hate this era happy, but I guess not.

[B]Also want to note that this could not be the case at all and we're really just speculating off of one poster's amazing theory.[/B][/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, definitely rolling with the conjecture because it's incredibly rich soil from which to grow several stories. I don't understand that point of view either. We haven't really seen enough to state, without a doubt, that Krakoa is a supremacist state. That would require lots of official statements on the part of the council, as well as reinforcement from multiple cases of the Krakoan population demonstrating said behavior. It's like some want to speak it into existence, rather than what is actually going on.

I can't wait for the Gala and Planet Sized X-Men! It's material like this that gets me excited in the absence of powerful, compelling villains and challenges they create. It just reinforces, in my mind, that the worldbuilding is the best part of the Hickman Era thus far.

My own opinion, and not dependent on anyone else's view of Krakoa, humans, mutants, integration, Mars, butts, or anything else, is this: Krakoa is setting up a world where humans feel they need to become mutant. If that means acting a certain way, leaving themselves vulnerable to certain things, or exposing certain advancements, then that is all part of the plan.

[QUOTE=Metal Sphere;5540163]Oh yeah, definitely rolling with the conjecture because it's incredibly rich soil from which to grow several stories. I don't understand that point of view either. We haven't really seen enough to state, without a doubt, that Krakoa is a supremacist state. That would require lots of official statements on the part of the council, as well as reinforcement from multiple cases of the Krakoan population demonstrating said behavior. [B]It's like some want to speak it into existence, rather than what is actually going on.
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Right! I swear I must live in a different universe cause I didn't realize supremacists rescued refugees and provided people with life-saving drugs.

[QUOTE=Metal Sphere;5540163]I can't wait for the Gala and Planet Sized X-Men! It's material like this that gets me excited in the absence of powerful, compelling villains and challenges they create. It just reinforces, in my mind, that the worldbuilding is the best part of the Hickman Era thus far.[/QUOTE]

Same! Even if I don't like/ agree with everything I like the unpredictability of it because in a couple years we can easily go back to traditional stories with traditional heroes and villains.

[QUOTE=cranger;5540168]My own opinion, and not dependent on anyone else's view of Krakoa, humans, mutants, integration, Mars, butts, or anything else, is this: Krakoa is setting up a world where humans feel they need to become mutant. If that means acting a certain way, leaving themselves vulnerable to certain things, or exposing certain advancements, then that is all part of the plan.[/QUOTE]

Seems a bad plan, because this way they become the homo novissima

[QUOTE=Rang10;5540180]Seems a bad plan, because this way they become the homo novissima[/QUOTE]
Forget terms like that. The problem is not humans evolving, as that is the goal and is what humans are doing by giving birth to 'mutants', but humans evolving based on AI which is where the conflicts in Moira's lives come from.

[QUOTE=cranger;5540191]Forget terms like that. The problem is not humans evolving, as that is the goal and is what humans are doing by giving birth to 'mutants', but humans evolving based on AI which is where the conflicts in Moira's lives come from.[/QUOTE]

This is Moira perspective, doesnt mean she is right. Mutants doesn't mean evolving, is just one random mutation. Evolving doesn't mean to get better, it mean fully adapted to situations.
Evolve is about adaptation.

HUmans probably will go their own way intead of submitting to mutants. I mean some will, but a huge powerful prt wont.

[QUOTE=Rang10;5540201]This is Moira perspective, doesnt mean she is right. Mutants doesn't mean evolving, is just one random mutation. Evolving doesn't mean to get better, it mean fully adapted to situations.
Evolve is about adaptation.

HUmans probably will go their own way intead of submitting to mutants. I mean some will, but a huge powerful prt wont.[/QUOTE]

I am just talking about explaining some things like the 'supremacist' attitude given off by Krakoa and the QC.

[QUOTE=Zelena;5540082]You care if a character dies… If the character resurrects, you feel cheated… “Oh, the author played with my feelings…”

Now with this resurrection machinery… it’s: “oh, they died, what’s the point?” The characters feel less real. Why would you feel anything?[/QUOTE]

This as been my whole point all along.................. I don't feel anything anymore and haven't since DPS.
Comic book characters died before resurrection and I knew they would come back.
Comic book characters died after resurrection and I know they come back.
For me, the only difference is i'm not subjected to a stupid retcon with resurrection.

If nothing else this version made me wonder again what comes next. And that did not happen for quite some time for me in an X-Men comic. The last years it was just one looming Extinction after the other. If the current run would be just putting an end to that idea it would be enough.

[QUOTE=Houseofhick;5540224]This as been my whole point all along.................. I don't feel anything anymore and haven't since DPS.
Comic book characters died before resurrection and I knew they would come back.
Comic book characters died after resurrection and I know they come back.
For me, the only difference is i'm not subjected to a stupid retcon with resurrection.[/QUOTE]

True it is not like comics did not use a lot of stuff to bring someone back^^

[QUOTE=Dunkelzahn;5540264]If nothing else this version made me wonder again what comes next. And that did not happen for quite some time for me in an X-Men comic. The last years it was just one looming Extinction after the other. If the current run would be just putting an end to that idea it would be enough.[/QUOTE]

Not to argue, as I have the same hope that Marvel gets past the extinction gimmick, but there are two problems: nothing Hickman does is going to stop someone else from writing another extinction arc, and technically this is an extinction arc (although only a handful of characters are aware).

[QUOTE=cranger;5539874]It is a one shot. My expectation is that this will be the introduction to bringing Cable back into SWORD with the new status quo.[/QUOTE]

ah, I missed that. I guess I've developed a provolone response to tie-in books.

[QUOTE=Houseofhick;5540068]I don't know how they become more meaningless but everyone will have their own opinion on this.[/QUOTE]

Because now there's even less tension to any deaths. There isn't even the illusion of permanence.

[QUOTE=sunofdarkchild;5540128]I think it's more a case of 'we already don't care since death has been meaningless for years.' If a character stayed dead it was an exceptional case and likely a very specific editorial edict that would end when a new editor took over. When Nightcrawler died, when Wolverine died, when Xavier died, there was no reason to care since we knew they'd all be back sooner rather than later. With Scott's death they seemed to be poking fun at this by making it off-panel and having everyone hate him for a year before they even showed what happened. Occasionally there will be a story where the emotional fallout is handled well enough that we may feel something, like with Damian's death in Batman Inc and the Human Torch's death and the silent issues that followed those - even if everyone knew that they wouldn't last long. It's impossible to care when the very concept has been a joke for decades.

The Rosenberg run and this current run seem like them acknowledging that the emperor has no clothes and that the audience can't be manipulated by killing off characters anymore. Now the issue is about whether the characters will come back wrong, which has always been one of my preferred options for bringing back a dead character partly because of its rarity and partly because it doesn't detract from the tragedy of the original death in the same way bringing them back as they were does. It also creates new ethical issues that are being addressed in Way of X and New Mutants. The question of who gets to be resurrected and who doesn't is very meta as well.[/QUOTE]

What they did with Scott wasn't poking fun at anything.

And as I've said before this isn't the answer, deaths should become rarer and more permanent not commonplace and immediately taken back.

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5540321]Because now there's even less tension to any deaths. There isn't even the illusion of permanence.[/QUOTE]

Basically. This is mainstream superhero comics, we all know how things are going to work out in the long run and it is not just 'death' that never sticks. The job of the story is to make us fail the saving throw vs illusion for a period of time.

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5540157]Yeah I agree with those statements. It's just weird to me that fans are so quick to call all of Krakoa a supremacist nation (and have actively been against their new segregationist views), but then they want mutants to give humans the benefit of the doubt and not generalize them based on the actions of some few governments and particularly hateful individuals. I figured the thought of reintegrating would make fans who hate this era happy, but I guess not.

Also want to note that this could not be the case at all and we're really just speculating off of one poster's amazing theory.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to see them reintegrate, that would make me happy (along with the upcoming proper X-Men team), but I can see where it can go wrong in the current canon. Krakoa isn't full on supremacist but it's present in places it shouldn't be and that's fine, there's a story to tell there, but pretending that it's not there is silly.

[QUOTE=cranger;5540191]Forget terms like that. The problem is not humans evolving, as that is the goal and is what humans are doing by giving birth to 'mutants', but humans evolving based on AI which is where the conflicts in Moira's lives come from.[/QUOTE]

So they'll hasten the problem instead of avoiding it, classic storytelling.

[QUOTE=cranger;5540297]Not to argue, as I have the same hope that Marvel gets past the extinction gimmick, but there are two problems: nothing Hickman does is going to stop someone else from writing another extinction arc, and technically this is an extinction arc (although only a handful of characters are aware).[/QUOTE]

Yep.

people treat Rosenberg run as a proof that X-men was always going into extinction story without Hickman, when in reality it was a pre-Hickman story to make people happy with whatever Hickman brings.

This was very clever frm their part, I just feel bad for Rosenberg being tasked this dirty job

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5540349]I'd like to see them reintegrate, that would make me happy (along with the upcoming proper X-Men team), but I can see where it can go wrong in the current canon. Krakoa isn't full on supremacist but it's present in places it shouldn't be and that's fine, there's a story to tell there, but pretending that it's not there is silly.[/QUOTE]

I think the secrets is the enough tonot make it work. Moira has her own endgame and it doesn't look pretty

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5540358]So they'll hasten the problem instead of avoiding it, classic storytelling.[/QUOTE]
No. Well, there is some setup done already that says yes, the AI will try to keep up and that is reconfirmed with the Vault realizing it needs to advance again, but that is not what I am saying. What I am saying is they are trying to find a way to beat the AI to the next step, to make humans not turn to AI, to make sure mutants become the dominant next step by doing what AI has been doing: making human life easier.

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5540321]Because now there's even less tension to any deaths. There isn't even the illusion of permanence.[/QUOTE]

I will never get the tension or emotion if I know it is an illusion.
I do believe resurrection opens the door to some very interesting stories IF they are done right.

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5540358]So they'll hasten the problem instead of avoiding it, classic storytelling.[/QUOTE]

Factual point:

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The creation of Krakoa is exactly what triggers the Orchis Protocols.

I'd like us to come out of this era with the X-Men finally realising that true co-existence (not forced acceptance) is not a beautiful ideology, but the only practical way to go. No mutant nation will ever survive if mutants aren't first actually accepted. And, for me, the most obvious way (although it’s not an easy way) for that to happen would be if both mutants and gene-typical humans realised they are, objectively, part of the same species.

The idea that mutants are an endangered species is conceptually wrong. Gene-typical humans and mutants are so genetically close they can freely reproduce. The offspring of two gene-typical humans can be mutant (Charles Xavier, the O5, etc...). The offspring of two mutants can be gene-typical (Gaydon Creed). And there doesn't seem to be any difficulty in mating between a mutant and a gene-typical human (David Haller, Lorna Dane, etc...).

But the idea of being an “endangered species” has been at the centre of what has motivated the X-Men for so long that few people even question it. One of the reasons I’m still somewhat interested in Hickman’s run is the hope that this will change.

I don’t think this will happen, though…


Note: Another conceptual problem: if you remove mutants from the [I]Homo sapiens[/I] species, how else could you accept that humans are, in fact, evolving unless such evolution is machine/AI-driven? If you declare any mutation creates a different species, you are putting [I]Homo sapiens[/I] in an evolutionary prison that only accepts evolution if it's non-biological.

[QUOTE=BroHomo;5540041]As evidence where? You know you can't just spout out whatever you want. It had to be true or at least canon[/QUOTE]

OK…

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[QUOTE=Dunkelzahn;5540264]If nothing else this version made me wonder again what comes next. And that did not happen for quite some time for me in an X-Men comic. The last years it was just one looming Extinction after the other. If the current run would be just putting an end to that idea it would be enough.[/QUOTE]

And it is what annoys the most in this attitude: so many fans are ready to accept anything as long as it doesn’t look like Extinction. Their bar is rather low.

Personally I would accept anything, even the end of the X-men, as long as the characterization was not changed (which is the case now). What is the point in having X-men comics if the X-men are not the X-men?

After all, everything comes to an end eventually… to give space to something new and more up-to-date. This will to do something new with something old is tiring… It disappoints old fans without necessarily winning a lot of new ones.

[QUOTE=Zelena;5540815]OK…

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I think there are many better options to make your case. This scene doesn't prove Silver Samurai thinks mutants are superior to humans, he's clearly referring to Cable beating Wolverine in the sparring match.

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I would use this example as a starting point to say the mutants think they are superior.

I think the whole mutant supremacism angle isn't actually a thing in any way shape or form, outside of the mutants that already held that opinion, but there are some panels through out the Hickman era that I would listen to an argument for it. Honestly though it seems to only pop up on these boards, I don't really see it in other forums or on X-Twitter.

[QUOTE=Kingdom X;5540141]So in one thread it’s a “supremacist nation” and in another it’s a “minority safe space”. Good to know.[/QUOTE]
Lol right? Like make up your mind
[QUOTE=Metal Sphere;5540147]

I noticed the same thing Rang10 has picked up on. It's a steady drip feeding of supremacist and/or anti-human sentiments from many corners of Krakoa. A backhanded compliment to humans here, sneering at humanity's "dead end" status (from the perspective of mutants), outright slurs, Trinary tip toeing around saying something insulting about human created things but then Monet flatly states it out loud. It's consistent enough that I'm almost certain this was something discussed at a writers retreat for the whole line. If the goal is for some utopian co-existence model on Mars with Storm heading it, I think beliefs like these will be corrosive to the effort at a whole. [/QUOTE]
Sooooo Mutant supremacy i.e. sneers and jeers =the death of any idea of peaceful coexisting.
Sentinels, Genosha, Mutant Registration Act, T-Cloud...I'd just invitations to keep coming back from being beaten to mud to try again? That's a chump a$$ deal
[QUOTE=Metal Sphere;5540147]Replacing each of these instances with an actual racial or religious slur makes it abundantly clear how bad this is. [/QUOTE]
lol replace those words with what heros call any villians and you get that lol

[QUOTE=Metal Sphere;5540147]That was just looking at the comments in isolation. When applying the context of Krakoa, its laws and culture (of celebrating mutant powers, mutant culture, mutants no longer knowing death or disease, and so on) I can see Hizashi's point of humans being instant second class citizens in any mutant society, or planet. You'd simultaneously be a symbol of the oppressors that made the mutants around you suffer AND you're a vulnerable minority without the ability to retaliate against creatures you can't kill or harm. And in the eyes of many, you'd be a perfect scapegoat if there was any attack on mutant society. [B]Rationally, it'd be stupid to move yourself and your family into such a position.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
I mean sure but we see no evidence of that with Kyle or the human refugees that stayed on KraKoa. Sooo why should Mutants be the ones that have to do it?
[QUOTE=Rang10;5540144]These two co-exist on real life. We are seeing it happen. and there is a lot of examples to get out of it[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rang10;5540135]Some of them no, A lot of them. I just gave few examples. Some of the high raking goverment and most important people there are Mutant supremacists, so yeah who would be crazy to integrate to s supremacist nation.[/QUOTE]
lol imean if that were the case I doubt the world would be in the relative peace it's in lol


[QUOTE=Rang10;5540407]
Yep.

[B]people treat Rosenberg run as a proof that X-men was always going into extinction story [/B]without Hickman, when in reality it was a pre-Hickman story to make people happy with whatever Hickman brings.
[/QUOTE]
Ehh I'd say Genosha... M-Day... T-Cloud were pretty big indicators lol

[QUOTE=Rang10;5540407]I think the secrets is the enough tonot make it work. Moira has her own endgame and it doesn't look pretty[/QUOTE]
Yeah mutants living in peace ... horrible

[QUOTE=Wolverine12;5540835]I think there are many better options to make your case. This scene doesn't prove Silver Samurai thinks mutants are superior to humans, he's clearly referring to Cable beating Wolverine in the sparring match.

[/QUOTE]
Siiigh EXACTLY! lmao

[QUOTE=Wolverine12;5540835]I think there are many better options to make your case. This scene doesn't prove Silver Samurai thinks mutants are superior to humans, he's clearly referring to Cable beating Wolverine in the sparring match.[/QUOTE]

They are both mutants… The mutant superiority on one to another doesn’t make any sense.

Or Wolverine is less considered as a mutant because his power is less offensive than Cable’s?

[QUOTE=Zelena;5541015]They are both mutants… The mutant superiority on one to another doesn’t make any sense.

Or Wolverine is less considered as a mutant because his power is less offensive than Cable’s?[/QUOTE]

le sigh...
Who would Silver Samurai be declaring that to? Ain't no humans around? Aaaand how is Cable besting Wolverine proof of anything? It 2 rabbits fight does the winner now superior to velociraptors?
You ever been to sporting competition and the one team wins or dominates the other? Do you take that literally? lol Or for example...Worldwide Soccer is the most popular sport... but in America Football 'reigns supreme'

American football is superior to soccer. Everyone knows that.

[QUOTE=BroHomo;5541084]le sigh...
Who would Silver Samurai be declaring that to? [B]Ain't no humans around?[/B] Aaaand how is Cable besting Wolverine proof of anything? It 2 rabbits fight does the winner now superior to velociraptors?
You ever been to sporting competition and the one team wins or dominates the other? Do you take that literally? lol Or for example...Worldwide Soccer is the most popular sport... but in America Football 'reigns supreme'[/QUOTE]

i don't disagree with the point your trying to make and i don't think the intent of this scene is to come off that way, but just because humans aren't around to hear it doesn't mean mutant supremacy talk suddenly doesn't count. like white supremacy rhetoric doesn't suddenly just not exist until a black person is nearby to hear it. they do it just as much amongst themselves to reaffirm there own beliefs.

On an island of so many mutants, some villainous, some heroic, villains turned hero, some children, some adults...so many personalities of ALL types...of course there will be some with such extreme views as "mutant supremacy". And certainly no big surprise that people like Cortez, Magneto, Exodus and o--[A]--o would be the ones to express that sentiment but...

Why is the whole mutant populace being tarred and feathered with the same MS brush?

Especially when it's perfectly clear that there are other prominent mutants who clearly don't subscribe to that ideology.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5541095]American football is superior to soccer. Everyone knows that.[/QUOTE]

It's called football NOT soccer.

[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5541152]Especially when it's perfectly clear that there are other prominent mutants who clearly don't subscribe to that ideology.[/QUOTE]

Do they strongly object? I don’t have this impression… It seems to me they became rather lenient with people expressing such views.

[QUOTE=Jackraow21;5541095]American football is superior to soccer. Everyone knows that.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. But only in America.
In the rest of the world, to the rest of the world...Football reigns supreme.

[QUOTE=Houseofhick;5540540]I will never get the tension or emotion if I know it is an illusion.
I do believe resurrection opens the door to some very interesting stories IF they are done right.[/QUOTE]

On the former point, I think that has as much to do with an individual's ability to suspend their disbelief as it does a comics creative teams' ability to sell the story. Marvel has really hurt themselves in that regard throughout the years, corporate cape comics have, so they need to rethink their strategy.

I agree on the latter point.

[QUOTE=Grinning Soul;5540768]Factual point:

[url]https://external-preview.redd.it/prEJNkrMqBvK9carq-HMORonDKSFju08LckPNDWWwnQ.jpg?auto=webp&ed6002b5[/url]

The creation of Krakoa is exactly what triggers the Orchis Protocols.

I'd like us to come out of this era with the X-Men finally realising that true co-existence (not forced acceptance) is not a beautiful ideology, but the only practical way to go. No mutant nation will ever survive if mutants aren't first actually accepted. And, for me, the most obvious way (although it’s not an easy way) for that to happen would be if both mutants and gene-typical humans realised they are, objectively, part of the same species.

The idea that mutants are an endangered species is conceptually wrong. Gene-typical humans and mutants are so genetically close they can freely reproduce. The offspring of two gene-typical humans can be mutant (Charles Xavier, the O5, etc...). The offspring of two mutants can be gene-typical (Gaydon Creed). And there doesn't seem to be any difficulty in mating between a mutant and a gene-typical human (David Haller, Lorna Dane, etc...).

But the idea of being an “endangered species” has been at the centre of what has motivated the X-Men for so long that few people even question it. One of the reasons I’m still somewhat interested in Hickman’s run is the hope that this will change.

I don’t think this will happen, though…


Note: Another conceptual problem: if you remove mutants from the [I]Homo sapiens[/I] species, how else could you accept that humans are, in fact, evolving unless such evolution is machine/AI-driven? If you declare any mutation creates a different species, you are putting [I]Homo sapiens[/I] in an evolutionary prison that only accepts evolution if it's non-biological.[/QUOTE]

This would be ideal, that's where I'd take the X-Men if I could.

[QUOTE=Zelena;5541170]Do they strongly object? I don’t have this impression… It seems to me they became rather lenient with people expressing such views.[/QUOTE]

That's true, and where has this assertion that anyone is saying all of Krakoa is supremacist come from? Prominent mutants and mutants in leadership expressing sentiments like Magneto and no one telling them to chill is enough of a problem.

[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5541152]On an island of so many mutants, some villainous, some heroic, villains turned hero, some children, some adults...so many personalities of ALL types...of course there will be some with such extreme views as "mutant supremacy". And certainly no big surprise that people like Cortez, Magneto, Exodus and o--[A]--o would be the ones to express that sentiment but...

[B]Why is the whole mutant populace being tarred and feathered with the same MS brush?

Especially when it's perfectly clear that there are other prominent mutants who clearly don't subscribe to that ideology.[/B][/QUOTE]
Ugh I know right judging a whole nation of people based on the actions or ideas of a few of it's citizens is like grody to the max
[QUOTE=Houseofhick;5541161]It's called football NOT soccer.[/QUOTE]
Not here it ain't
[QUOTE=Hizashi;5541231]That's true, and where has this assertion that anyone is saying all of Krakoa is supremacist come from? Prominent mutants and mutants in leadership expressing sentiments like Magneto and no one telling them to chill is enough of a problem.[/QUOTE]
Errr this is Magnero on chill mode.
And whyyy is it not the same for human governments? Ya know the ones that allowed giant death robots to operate and "apprehend" Mutants or allow crazy robots like Bastian to seize power, experiment on reg people turning them into smaller but just as deadly robots to deal with the mutant problem... Or the ones that facilitated the Mother Mold, or that were complacent when Mutants were being gassed to death? Y'all reeeeally gonna say that after a that Mutsbts I power or outta power need to chill in their remarks towards these same governments??
[QUOTE=carmoc1234;5541137]i don't disagree with the point your trying to make and i don't think the intent of this scene is to come off that way, but just because humans aren't around to hear it doesn't mean mutant supremacy talk suddenly doesn't count. like white supremacy rhetoric doesn't suddenly just not exist until a black person is nearby to hear it. they do it just as much amongst themselves to reaffirm there own beliefs.[/QUOTE]
True True it just didn't much much sense to me given the context

[QUOTE=Hizashi;5541231]That's true, and where has this assertion that anyone is saying all of Krakoa is supremacist come from? Prominent mutants and mutants in leadership expressing sentiments like Magneto and no one telling them to chill is enough of a problem.[/QUOTE]

True, people are allowed to expresse supremacist ideas without any backlash

its an over bloated meander mess that reeks of editorial control. no way this is hickman's vision. im giving duggan 3 issues to show me its worth sticking around for if not i wont even pirate this nonsense.

This is what I will say about the "Krakoa Era" of the X-Men: it is an intriguing and compelling take on the X-universe. I do appreciate the creativity and world-building that has taken place.

I personally believe that the X-Men stand for more than just protecting and caring for mutants. I fell in love with them because they fought for everyone. I don't think that altruistic mission statement can ever be surpassed.

I think Krakoa is a great creation and should continue to be a sovereign nation and I hope future writers will continue to build/add to it... I just don't think the X-Men should be based there or leading it. I think their calling is beyond Krakoa.

I hope that when all is said and done with this era, the X-Men will occupy a greater space in the Marvel Universe where they are synonymous within the public's eye as the Avengers, the FF, etc... I hope they even have team members that aren't mutants because they've truly become a team that reflects higher ideals.

I appreciate Hickman is crafting and telling a story that hasn't been told on this scale. I can't wait to collect it in it's entirety.