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[QUOTE=I’m An Agent of Chaos;5794971]When did I say it was? I was only referring to MCU shills.[/QUOTE]
Don't really see how Rotten Tomatoes was ever useful for "bashing" DC; most of their recent stuff has been rated "fresh," after all.
So far as [I]Eternals[/I] getting an initial mixed reception, that's disappointing, but I'm not sure what the big deal is. Studios sometimes make subpar movies (even Pixar has had a few weak stretches). It is what it is. If [I]Eternals[/I] is indeed bad, then this experiment didn't work. It's not like Marvel Studios has anything to prove as to why they're the king of the superhero movie or anything.
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Too bad, reviewsxand word of mouth are very important to the movies that people aren't familiar with. It surely helped Shang Chi, while Black Widow didn't need it as much because people knew her. Unless the word of mouth changes after release, I fear this might be the first MCU bomb.
I'll still judge it for myself.
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[QUOTE=ZuLuLu;5794938]I think it will depends more on how the movie does financially.
While some people have problems with the direction most of the problems in this movie is that it is setting up 10 characters and a whole new complicated lore.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
What I'm getting from the reviews is that this is both a Chloe Zhao film and a Marvel film. Those who wanted more of Chloe's style of film making didn't like the parts of the movie that felt like a Marvel movie and those who expected more of a Marvel movie were disappointed with the Chloe Zhao parts .
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Film was at 59% for a minute.
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This movie is definitely going to end up rotten on RT.
I guess that torpedoes the "MCU or Disney is controliing/paying/managing critics" argument.
That aside, I'm legit surprised the movie is getting reviews this poor. I guess the Zhao/MCU combination just wasn't a good one.
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[QUOTE=Username taken;5796151]This movie is definitely going to end up rotten on RT.
I guess that torpedoes the "MCU or Disney is controliing/paying/managing critics" argument.
That aside, I'm legit surprised the movie is getting reviews this poor. I guess the Zhao/MCU combination just wasn't a good one.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Zhoa wasn't the right person, or her take was the wrong one for this property. I also understand they used the Gaiman mini for the source. Maybe they should have gone back to Kirby?
Or I might think it is fantastic and the critics don't get it.
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[QUOTE=Kirby101;5796198]Maybe Zhoa wasn't the right person, or her take was the wrong one for this property. I also understand they used the Gaiman mini for the source. Maybe they should have gone back to Kirby?
Or I might think it is fantastic and the critics don't get it.[/QUOTE]
All could be true.
Ultimately, we will all judge the movie ourselves when see it.
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[QUOTE=Kirby101;5796198]Maybe Zhoa wasn't the right person, or her take was the wrong one for this property. I also understand they used the Gaiman mini for the source. Maybe they should have gone back to Kirby?
Or I might think it is fantastic and the critics don't get it.[/QUOTE]
They've taken influence from both Gaiman and Kirby from the looks of it.
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[QUOTE=Username taken;5796151]This movie is definitely going to end up rotten on RT.
I guess that torpedoes the "MCU or Disney is controliing/paying/managing critics" argument.
That aside, I'm legit surprised the movie is getting reviews this poor. I guess the Zhao/MCU combination just wasn't a good one.[/QUOTE]
Nah, They will just ignore it. They are very good at cherrypicking for their agenda
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[QUOTE=Geraldofrivia;5796279]Nah, They will just ignore it. They are very good at cherrypicking for their agenda[/QUOTE]
Who? Korrag on the Eternals.
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I'm sorry but the comic premise and the derived movie premise is unattractive. Bunch of midlevel metas with silly powers just mope around waiting for some old dinosaur monsters to resurface because some space 'God' told them to. Plus dressed in pseudo-Roman or Middle Ages duds. Meanwhile millions die - so let's chat about that a bit with banter.
No real connection to the existant MCU except excuses why they sat around. This idea of a 'god' is too easily thrown around in comics. It's just some character with a lot of power and an ego trip.
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[QUOTE=Frontier;5796261]They've taken influence from both Gaiman and Kirby from the looks of it.[/QUOTE]
and alex ross
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[QUOTE=Captain Smith;5796434]I'm sorry but the comic premise and the derived movie premise is unattractive. Bunch of midlevel metas with silly powers just mope around waiting for some old dinosaur monsters to resurface because some space 'God' told them to. Plus dressed in pseudo-Roman or Middle Ages duds. Meanwhile millions die - so let's chat about that a bit with banter.
No real connection to the existant MCU except excuses why they sat around. This idea of a 'god' is too easily thrown around in comics. It's just some character with a lot of power and an ego trip.[/QUOTE]
Sound like lazy bums then.
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[QUOTE=Username taken;5796151]This movie is definitely going to end up rotten on RT.
I guess that torpedoes the "MCU or Disney is controliing/paying/managing critics" argument.
That aside, I'm legit surprised the movie is getting reviews this poor. I guess the Zhao/MCU combination just wasn't a good one.[/QUOTE]
Just looking at the trailers I kept thinking "With the right writer she would be a great Star Trek director" Her style is very slow and thoughtful but can still be intense.
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Marvel's Eternals The Death Blow to the MCU & The Reality
[video=youtube;sNWidUq8aAA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNWidUq8aAA[/video]