Yep!...this is a good image for an example of how I see Lilith today.
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Yep!...this is a good image for an example of how I see Lilith today.
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A quick recoloring...
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And after seeing Jovan's idea a few posts down, I updated with a more "modest" version.
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The funny thing about Raven and Lilith being similar in terms of powers and looks is that Raven (and Wildcat) was also originally intended to be a mentor character, but she was off-limits, leaving Jurgens to have to substitute a de-aged Atom and Lilith Clay (who took on the Raven-esque persona of "Omen"). No wonder Omen was so similar to Raven.
[QUOTE=Lee Stone;2061545]While I'm looking forward to new villains for both Titans and Teen Titans, I'm thrilled to see an updated version of the Fearsome Five making an appearance.
So, let's reflect on the Titans' Rogues Gallery and speculate on which ones you'd like to see again, which ones you don't, which ones could really use an update and if there's any non-Titans villains you'd like to see get adopted into their mythos.
Here's a list of most Titans villains:
Mr. Twister
The Antithesis
The Mad Mod
Doctor Light
Mr. Esper
The Ravager
Deathstroke
The Fearsome Five (Gizmo, Mammoth, Shimmer, Psimon, Jinx)
Trigon
The Brotherhood of Evil (Madame Rouge, General Zahl, The Brain, Monsieur Mallah, Houngan, Phobia, Plasmus, Warp)
The H.I.V.E.
Brother Blood
Blackfire
Terra
Trident
Cheshire
The Hybrid (Gorgon, Harpi, Pteradon, Behemoth, Sirocco, Touch-N-Go, Prometheus)
Wildebeest
Godiva
My personal ideas/hopes, etc:
Dr. Light II (Kimyo) would actually make a welcome addition to the Titans team. As would Pantha.
I'd borrow an idea from the Young Justice cartoon and make the Bialyan Queen Bee a Titans villain, most logically as the leader of H.I.V.E.
I would adapt the New Olympians (an onscure Outsiders villain group) into Titans villains.
And the Cadre (the Justice League Detroit villain group) into Teen Titans villains.
I would like to see a new Brotherhood of Evil with Phobia, Plasmus, Warp, Mallah, Brain and two new members, perhaps involved in a Titans/Teen Titans crossover.
Blackfire could be used to give Omega Men a guest appearance in Teen Titans.
And I hope we see Cheshire in Titans.
Trigon and Terra both could take a rest for a while, but a Deathstroke appearance would be okay. Maybe in Nightwing.
I've never really cared for Wildebeest or Godiva but if they were (extensively) revamped, they could become the Titans' Juggernaut and Emma Frost.
Brother Blood, also, could be useful if he was updated a bit. He would make a good Lilith focused villain if he's given a Rosemary's Baby magic cult slant.
Instead of Trident, I would like to see Marine Marauder revamped.
And... I think Maxima would make a good Titans villain, as would Vandal Savage or Ra's Al Ghul.
There's mine.[/QUOTE]
I had the same idea with Omega Men and Starfire/Blackfire having some sort of a connection because they are from the vega system, and Queen Bee more towards her Young Justice portrayal because I liked this version of her more than her comic counterpart same with Jinx and Psimon.
I know this would never happened but I would like to see TT villains (and one anti-hero) from the animated series because so far the TT villains would most likely be: Ra's al Gahl (Damian - but he's mostly a Batman villain), Trigon, Brother Blood, Blackfire and Brotherhood of Evil (Doom Patrol might use them in their Young Animal brand..dunno..maybe they can still be use).
Mumbo Jumbo
Atlas
Adonis
Control Freak
Billy Numerous
Red X
[QUOTE=byrd156;2062720]Croc's design isn't so bad and same with El Diablo.[/QUOTE]
El Diablo is also the one that remains most true to the comic version. And in the case of Croc, I'd say thats because the movie version is half the size of his comic counterpart.
After seeing many redesigns of Lilith, here is my own re-colour of her. :) I might update a better quality soon.
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[QUOTE=Jovan2013;2063094]After seeing redesign of Lilith, here is my own re-colour of her. :) I might update a better quality soon.
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Nice.
I like the idea of covering the skin a bit, so I made an alternate version of mine with a black bodysuit similar to Rogue's late '80s look.
I just inserted in my last post for comparison.
[QUOTE=Jovan2013;2063019]I had the same idea with Omega Men and Starfire/Blackfire having some sort of a connection because they are from the vega system, and Queen Bee more towards her Young Justice portrayal because I liked this version of her more than her comic counterpart same with Jinx and Psimon.
I know this would never happened but I would like to see TT villains (and one anti-hero) from the animated series because so far the TT villains would most likely be: Ra's al Gahl (Damian - but he's mostly a Batman villain), Trigon, Brother Blood, Blackfire and Brotherhood of Evil (Doom Patrol might use them in their Young Animal brand..dunno..maybe they can still be use).
Mumbo Jumbo
Atlas
Adonis
Control Freak
Billy Numerous
Red X[/QUOTE]
The Bialyan version of Queen Bee was probably one of the greatest revisions of a Silver Age character ever.
It's a shame DC doesn't use her.
[QUOTE=Outside_85;2063049]El Diablo is also the one that remains most true to the comic version. And in the case of Croc, I'd say thats because the movie version is half the size of his comic counterpart.[/QUOTE]
I prefer it when croc is humanish and not a giant crocodile.
[QUOTE=byrd156;2063656]I prefer it when croc is humanish and not a giant crocodile.[/QUOTE]
To me it just looses the point of him if they don't keep him monstrous, there's just too little else that works for him. Like if you just wanted someone that looks like a freak with pointed teeth, you might as well use Great White Shark since he atleast has some brainpower behind him.
I was thinking about why I wouldn't like Danny Chase to show up in the current time, and I think it's because I really don't have any faith in the current regime to him all that well. He was annoying back during New Teen Titans, he'd probably be more annoying now.
[i]But[/i] if he were to come back...
His concept was supposed to be the relatable young teen, right? I think the best thing to do to reintroduce him would probably be to keep up with the idea of that, but the common teenager now is much different than the one from the mid 1980's. So - modernize him. Make him a queer kid that's aware of the social outlook of today, but isn't really... preachy about it. Add him to Teen Titans and make him a bit of a foil to Damian, because they'd be about a similar age (Damian is 13, Danny was 14) and show him as being the least competent member of the team - but he's learning and he wants to learn because he wants to help, and he's got massive potential. Update his design too, at least a little bit. Most teenagers don't really look like Danny does, but he can keep the glasses; maybe make them a bit more fashionable. He should probably be like Quentin Quire but only in that he likes graphic tees and such.
And... yeah!
[QUOTE=Endsong;2063818]I was thinking about why I wouldn't like Danny Chase to show up in the current time, and I think it's because I really don't have any faith in the current regime to him all that well. He was annoying back during New Teen Titans, he'd probably be more annoying now.
[i]But[/i] if he were to come back...
His concept was supposed to be the relatable young teen, right? I think the best thing to do to reintroduce him would probably be to keep up with the idea of that, but the common teenager now is much different than the one from the mid 1980's. So - modernize him. Make him a queer kid that's aware of the social outlook of today, but isn't really... preachy about it. Add him to Teen Titans and make him a bit of a foil to Damian, because they'd be about a similar age (Damian is 13, Danny was 14) and show him as being the least competent member of the team - but he's learning and he wants to learn because he wants to help, and he's got massive potential. Update his design too, at least a little bit. Most teenagers don't really look like Danny does, but he can keep the glasses; maybe make them a bit more fashionable. He should probably be like Quentin Quire but only in that he likes graphic tees and such.
And... yeah![/QUOTE]
Nice idea for Danny Chase and I like how you compare him to Quentin Quire, they are both cocky and full of themselves but have great power. I could see him as an annoyance to Damian because of his attitude, I wonder if he's the sixth titan on Percy's Teen Titans but I think it's either going to be Emiko (he's doing Green Arrow and Black Canary is going to be a major supporting character so Emiko in the Teen Titans will be fine, she's the same age as Damian) or (this is a longshot) Terra.
[QUOTE=Lee Stone;2063606]Nice.
I like the idea of covering the skin a bit, so I made an alternate version of mine with a black bodysuit similar to Rogue's late '80s look.
I just inserted in my last post for comparison.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I added the red because of her Omen identity, and the glossy green was just there to experiment with. EDIT: After looking at your redesign, I think I should've recolour the shoulder from green to black.
Awesome. I like the black bodysuit it matches well with the green and it looks elegant as well and could work for shadowy missions.
[QUOTE=Lee Stone;2063625]The Bialyan version of Queen Bee was probably one of the greatest revisions of a Silver Age character ever.
It's a shame DC doesn't use her.[/QUOTE]
I think it's because DC either don't watch their animated shows or they simply don't care. There are many great revisions of character that could've been use as elements for their characters. Maybe Queen Bee will appear in one of the titan books. She could appear in Titans, as a phase two enemy once they are done taking care of Mister Twister (and possibly The Antihestists) because the team needs more villains, Teen Titans could be a place for her because they need villains beside Trigon (a demon/event villain), Backfire and Brother Blood or have her in Young Justice (If DC ever decide to rebirth Young Justice).
[QUOTE=Jovan2013;2064094]Nice idea for Danny Chase and I like how you compare him to Quentin Quire, they are both cocky and full of themselves but have great power. I could see him as an annoyance to Damian because of his attitude, I wonder if he's the sixth titan on Percy's Teen Titans but I think it's either going to be Emiko (he's doing Green Arrow and Black Canary is going to be a major supporting character so Emiko in the Teen Titans will be fine, she's the same age as Damian) or (this is a longshot) Terra.[/QUOTE]
I think Teen Titans will have [i]two[/i] more additions, and I really want one to be Terra. Emi is likely though.