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[QUOTE=Frontier;3198994]I think it depends on how they handle it.
Like, with the Inhumans, the sense I'm getting from reviews is it's hard to empathize with the Royal Family because they're all aloof and a proponent of the less then savory elements of Attilan's culture, which is why more people side with Maximus.
I expect more people will be able to empathize with and understand T'Challa then they have with the Inhuman royals, like they already have in [I]Civil War[/I], and the Wakandan Monarchy will probably not be showcased in as controversial a light. T'Challa will also probably seem like much more a traditional hero then the Royal Family have been on the show, so he'll be easier to root for.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Killmonger's revolutionary motivation is just another masquerade for him really wanting to be king himself.[/QUOTE]
In the case of the Inhams, it also might be a case of the actor playing the role.
Similar to say Loki, or Killgrave sometimes you wanna root for the villain simply because they're the best part of the show.
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[QUOTE=Holt;3199031][URL="https://twitter.com/Stelfreeze"]From Brian Stelfreeze's Twitter.[/URL]
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Super cute. :)
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[QUOTE=XPac;3199088]In the case of the Inhams, it also might be a case of the actor playing the role.
Similar to say Loki, or Killgrave sometimes you wanna root for the villain simply because they're the best part of the show.[/QUOTE]
Oh no. Lol
They got some messed up stuff going on on the moon. I full caste system where inhumans work the mines if their powers suit it. No upward mobility that I can see. They use Max to bring up the issues, but I suspect the BB and the others will institute real change in the end if any.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3199115]Oh no. Lol
They got some messed up stuff going on on the moon. I full caste system where inhumans work the mines if their powers suit it. No upward mobility that I can see. They use Max to bring up the issues, but I suspect the BB and the others will institute real change in the end if any.[/QUOTE]
Good point. I suppose to some degree the story is designed to where you'really not necessarily supposed to agree with the Inhumans. Or at least not entirely.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3198776][B]As long as it was Don McGregor level's of craziness it would be an interesting take. That is one of the good Things about Tchalla is that there are many aspects to focus on. Personally I like the technology/Uber prep that Priest focused on and the larger then life aspect Hudlin showed. Less spiritual, more modern with a acknowledgement of tradition as well. But at the Same time though Villains Should give the heroes work, I think it's Also important to have Villains that the hero can beat without him having to dig deep. Basically have atleast a couple arcs (depending on how many stories you wanted to tell) that went Like Priest the client, or Hudlin's WiTBP.
There is suspense but for Priest he had Tchalla fully outsmart Mephisto and knocked him down in one punch and ripped his heart out. That was cool. Hudlin having T'Challa handily best Klaw and his crew and exact revenge (even though he came back Which is fine, I like that dynamic that Tchalla is always haunted by the fact that he can't fully Avenge his father because Klaw can't be killed) but they also showed T'Challa losing. Something most writer's seem to forget, it that heroes can lose at the end of an arc or have a Pyrrhic victory sometimes.
As for writing BP I guess I am a little confused as to why Coates getting the job means you can't ever write BP? If you expressed an interest, I am confused how you couldn't get a BP series as well, or be able to take over after Coates leaves?[/B][/QUOTE]
Sometimes the direction of a comic or series is so far away from anything I would write that there's no point in trying to take the gig even if it was offered. The version of Black Panther I would want to write no longer exists in the comics. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy reading it (I do) but, no, there's nothing about the current comic that inspires me to write stories. Anything I would write coming after that would piss off too many of the fans because MY version would be too much of a new thing at that point. No one would stand for it. It would be seen as a comment on whatever came before (it wouldn't be that but people would see it that way). Why make a fight when there's no reason for one?
Contrary to how it seems, I don't want to set myself up in a battle situation with the fans or with other writers. These days I would prefer to write THE CREW or TALES OF WAKANDA if I had any choice.
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I would love to see your take on the Crew.
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Contrary to how it seems, I don't want to set myself up in a battle situation with the fans or with other writers. These days I would prefer to write THE CREW or TALES OF WAKANDA if I had any choice.[/QUOTE]
Is it possible to pitch that?
We got Midnight Angels, Shuri, Vibrarus, the kid in Ms Marvel that is Panther's cousin and even Man Ape-is it possible to do something with them without inferring with the Coates books?
One shot or 3 parter.
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[QUOTE=Redjack;3199187]Sometimes the direction of a comic or series is so far away from anything I would write that there's no point in trying to take the gig even if it was offered. The version of Black Panther I would want to write no longer exists in the comics. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy reading it (I do) but, no, there's nothing about the current comic that inspires me to write stories. Anything I would write coming after that would piss off too many of the fans because MY version would be too much of a new thing at that point. No one would stand for it. It would be seen as a comment on whatever came before (it wouldn't be that but people would see it that way). Why make a fight when there's no reason for one?
Contrary to how it seems, I don't want to set myself up in a battle situation with the fans or with other writers. These days I would prefer to write [B]THE CREW[/B] or TALES OF WAKANDA if I had any choice.[/QUOTE]
Would you bring back any of the original members? For reasons we aren't privy to it seems like the Bradley's are off the table right now but I wouldn't mind see Kasper and Junta reintegrated into the group.
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[url]https://www.cbr.com/strongest-and-weakest-avengers-infinity-war/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3199249]Would you bring back any of the original members? For reasons we aren't privy to it seems like the Bradley's are off the table right now but I wouldn't mind see Kasper and Junta reintegrated into the group.[/QUOTE]
I think THE CREW without Kasper is not the Crew, but it needs to have its own identity, away from Black Panther. Each book, IMO, needs to have its own unique reason to exist or why bother?
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[QUOTE=MadFacedKid;3199270][url]https://www.cbr.com/strongest-and-weakest-avengers-infinity-war/[/url]
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Cool that BP got his props. And I'm certain the actual movie will reflect that.
I do think Steve may end up surprising the author of that article though ... but at least on paper his assessment is fair.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3198506]Both characters exist within a much vaunted "shared universe" so the whole idea that their being married constitutes as some insurmountable problem doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.
And additionally, their being characters from two different books, doesn't negate the fact that where Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie were able to portray the relationship/marriage realistically whilst growing Ororo as a character who finally (with T'Challa's help) reconnected with her paternal family as well as expand into the wider MU as a member of the FF, the X-Office, their writers and a coterie of regressive readership were more interested in trashing T'Challa, Wakanda, the BP mythos and even Ororo who was seen as being "too black" by association to T'Challa and thusly, no longer the exotic fetishism femme of indeterminate ethnic identity they were primarily enamoured of.
As Queen of Wakanda, Ororo had access to incredible wealth, technological advancements coupled with political clout that could have been of great use to the X-men in particular and the mutant cause in general.
Additionally, her marriage to T'Challa also served as a brilliant bridge from which to traverse the gap between humans and mutants as envisaged within Professor Charles Xaviers dream but I suppose in hindsight, that this wouldn't have played to the X-Offices narrow vision that prefers to have the X-men and mutants in never ending conflict with the rest of the MU.
One should never forget that we're for the most part, talking about fictional characters existing within a fantasy based realm unfortunately written by some individuals who impose their real world biases and prejudices into said fictional world's which in term stifles creativity across the board.
Ororo is no less of a mutant now than she was back when Christopher J Priest, Reginald Hudlin and Dwayne McDuffie featured her in their respective BP and FF runs than she is now, in Coates BP book.
The primary problem Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie had as writers is that they had the "audacity" to characterise and depict Ororo as a fully fleshed out woman of unambiguous African descent first and foremost as opposed to just focusing on the same mutation that didn't prevent any of her fellow X-men from being recognised as Irish, Canadian, German or Jewish.
That was the sticking point and primary problem for many of the marriage detractors as evidenced by the wholly false narrative of "Hudlin only married them because they're black" that was pushed by the aforementioned detractors ad nauseum.
I've never subscribed to the conceit of personal ethnicity taking a backseat to the individuals actual ethnicity but that's just me.
Peace.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Majesty;3199328][img]https://media.giphy.com/media/NnGGHE0muVqpO/giphy.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Thanks Majesty. :)
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3198506]Both characters exist within a much vaunted "shared universe" so the whole idea that their being married constitutes as some insurmountable problem doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.
And additionally, their being characters from two different books, doesn't negate the fact that where Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie were able to portray the relationship/marriage realistically whilst growing Ororo as a character who finally (with T'Challa's help) reconnected with her paternal family as well as expand into the wider MU as a member of the FF, the X-Office, their writers and a coterie of regressive readership were more interested in trashing T'Challa, Wakanda, the BP mythos and even Ororo who was seen as being "too black" by association to T'Challa and thusly, no longer the exotic fetishism femme of indeterminate ethnic identity they were primarily enamoured of.
As Queen of Wakanda, Ororo had access to incredible wealth, technological advancements coupled with political clout that could have been of great use to the X-men in particular and the mutant cause in general.
Additionally, her marriage to T'Challa also served as a brilliant bridge from which to traverse the gap between humans and mutants as envisaged within Professor Charles Xaviers dream but I suppose in hindsight, that this wouldn't have played to the X-Offices narrow vision that prefers to have the X-men and mutants in never ending conflict with the rest of the MU.
One should never forget that we're for the most part, talking about fictional characters existing within a fantasy based realm unfortunately written by some individuals who impose their real world biases and prejudices into said fictional world's which in term stifles creativity across the board.
Ororo is no less of a mutant now than she was back when Christopher J Priest, Reginald Hudlin and Dwayne McDuffie featured her in their respective BP and FF runs than she is now, in Coates BP book.
The primary problem Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie had as writers is that they had the "audacity" to characterise and depict Ororo as a fully fleshed out woman of unambiguous African descent first and foremost as opposed to just focusing on the same mutation that didn't prevent any of her fellow X-men from being recognised as Irish, Canadian, German or Jewish.
That was the sticking point and primary problem for many of the marriage detractors as evidenced by the wholly false narrative of "Hudlin only married them because they're black" that was pushed by the aforementioned detractors ad nauseum.
I've never subscribed to the conceit of personal ethnicity taking a backseat to the individuals actual mutation but that's just me.
Peace.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]It's as simple as that BCB.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3198506]Both characters exist within a much vaunted "shared universe" so the whole idea that their being married constitutes as some insurmountable problem doesn't really hold up under scrutiny.
And additionally, their being characters from two different books, doesn't negate the fact that where Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie were able to portray the relationship/marriage realistically whilst growing Ororo as a character who finally (with T'Challa's help) reconnected with her paternal family as well as expand into the wider MU as a member of the FF, the X-Office, their writers and a coterie of regressive readership were more interested in trashing T'Challa, Wakanda, the BP mythos and even Ororo who was seen as being "too black" by association to T'Challa and thusly, no longer the exotic fetishism femme of indeterminate ethnic identity they were primarily enamoured of.
As Queen of Wakanda, Ororo had access to incredible wealth, technological advancements coupled with political clout that could have been of great use to the X-men in particular and the mutant cause in general.
Additionally, her marriage to T'Challa also served as a brilliant bridge from which to traverse the gap between humans and mutants as envisaged within Professor Charles Xaviers dream but I suppose in hindsight, that this wouldn't have played to the X-Offices narrow vision that prefers to have the X-men and mutants in never ending conflict with the rest of the MU.
One should never forget that we're for the most part, talking about fictional characters existing within a fantasy based realm unfortunately written by some individuals who impose their real world biases and prejudices into said fictional world's which in term stifles creativity across the board.
Ororo is no less of a mutant now than she was back when Christopher J Priest, Reginald Hudlin and Dwayne McDuffie featured her in their respective BP and FF runs than she is now, in Coates BP book.
The primary problem Priest, Hudlin and McDuffie had as writers is that they had the "audacity" to characterise and depict Ororo as a fully fleshed out woman of unambiguous African descent first and foremost as opposed to just focusing on the same mutation that didn't prevent any of her fellow X-men from being recognised as Irish, Canadian, German or Jewish.
That was the sticking point and primary problem for many of the marriage detractors as evidenced by the wholly false narrative of "Hudlin only married them because they're black" that was pushed by the aforementioned detractors ad nauseum.
I've never subscribed to the conceit of personal ethnicity taking a backseat to the individuals actual mutation but that's just me.
Peace.[/QUOTE]
Valid points. We're allowed to differ.
I think Storm needs time on her own to build her own Storm-verse with her own everything in it. I would not pair her with anyone and definitely not BP if I were writing that book. I would let her "date" until I found someone- NOT BP– or created someone worthy. She would be herself before she would be someone's wife.
For BP it's the reverse. He's a classic super-hero in every way except he has no rogues worth discussing and, because people are so damned precious with Black characters, he doesn't get have a counterpart that comes out of his own story.
Yes, technically the Marvel Universe is a big shared party but, in real reality, the X has a lot of baggage on the writing side. If a BP & Storm story arc came into conflict with or contradicted an X arc that included Storm, the X arc would win. As a writer, I don't like going into any situation with creative handcuffs on.