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[QUOTE=Danileriver23;3682955]What would you guys think of a Wakandan Netflix min series? I get all of the other ones were in New York, but I wouldn't mind a show about the dora milaje weeding out some Wakanda crime or maybe have a community outreach scenario go wrong in Oakland in the new wakandan emabasy.[/QUOTE]
Netflix shows always look cheap and low budget, I would not want to see their Wakanda.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3682980]This may be blasphemy but it would fit better on ABC
AoS at least has high tech spy stuff.
Netflix just doesn't have the budget for it.
(plus Netflix isn't getting anymore Marvel characters, Disney streaming is coming)[/QUOTE]
Based on how ABC handled Inhumans I would not want them to do a Wakanda show; it would also look cheap on ABC.
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3684784]I thought this issue wasn't too bad, why didn't they just make this issue one in the first place?
Secret Wars ended with T'challa sending three adventurers out into space.
Due to time compression they could have ended up inadvertently starting this galactic empire and then we just pick up with T'challa for some reason in space. That would have been so much better than two years of BS.[/QUOTE]
Coates said he didn't even know the ending of Secret Wars when he first wrote his script, so I don't think he necessarily would have thought to go this direction right out of the gate. It's possible had he known Hickmans ending he might have gone in this direction earlier.
THat aside, I think there was some logistical house cleaning he probably wanted to do first before doing a story which completely seperates T'Challa from his established status quo. Probably wanted to bring Shuri back (again he did't know Hickmans ending when he started writing the first season), probably wanted to re-build his supporting cast. And obviously he wanted to reunite T'Challa with Storm, who seemingly is playing a role in this story even though she's not physically present. She's his emotional anchor, or however you want to look at it.
Either way, I think the timing is descent as far as acting as a new jumping on point for people who may want to check it out after seeing the BP movie or Infinity War. No pre-existing knowledge is really necessary for this story, since it's starting off as sort of a blank slate. It's confusing, but it's confusing by design because it's a mystery.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3684806]Somewhat the same. But at least Hell's Kitchen is known, he knew his own name, his own history, ect. This is like a really extreme version of that.
Yupppppppppppp
Hell, you can even have T'challa "wake up" from the reality gem manipulation by going, "where am I?"
You would get a double mystery... where is T'challa and then T'challa's internal mystery of "did I fix Wakanda?"
Also would have allowed Coates to have a year working on his comic writing ability without having to worry too much about continuity and such[/QUOTE]
[B]Which he ignored the continuity anyways and just changed or added stuff without reason other than to make his first season appear "dramatic" if he started out with this as the first story, at the very least the threat is established and Tchalla wouldn't of had to been nerfed to high hell to make it seem there where stakes[/B]
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E3 is coming soon. June 11th and Square Enix's Avengers game is gonna be there. There's a good chance Black panther will be in the game. What's some things you'd like to see done with him? Like how he plays, the design of the suit or abilities?
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I think it’s inevitable the force push will be in there in some shape or form. But hopefully he’ll also have the energy daggers and Kotd powers.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3684870]Coates said he didn't even know the ending of Secret Wars when he first wrote his script, so I don't think he necessarily would have thought to go this direction right out of the gate. It's possible had he known Hickmans ending he might have gone in this direction earlier.
THat aside, I think there was some logistical house cleaning he probably wanted to do first before doing a story which completely seperates T'Challa from his established status quo. Probably wanted to bring Shuri back (again he did't know Hickmans ending when he started writing the first season), probably wanted to re-build his supporting cast. And obviously he wanted to reunite T'Challa with Storm, who seemingly is playing a role in this story even though she's not physically present. She's his emotional anchor, or however you want to look at it.
Either way, I think the timing is descent as far as acting as a new jumping on point for people who may want to check it out after seeing the BP movie or Infinity War. No pre-existing knowledge is really necessary for this story, since it's starting off as sort of a blank slate. It's confusing, but it's confusing by design because it's a mystery.[/QUOTE]
None of what you mentioned would be needed. Not one thing.
Storm was the last person he visited prior to thinking the world was ending. That's reason enough to have her in the flash backs. The house cleaning was done, and he really hasn't added much to Wakanda, just to Storm.
It was two years of bullsh#t.
Plus, as you said this requires no knowledge, so by that acknowledgement nothing in the two years prior is all that relevant. This is a completely new cast.
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[QUOTE=Pulp Fiction;3684926]E3 is coming soon. June 11th and Square Enix's Avengers game is gonna be there. There's a good chance Black panther will be in the game. What's some things you'd like to see done with him? Like how he plays, the design of the suit or abilities?[/QUOTE]
Basically I want T'challa to play like Ryu in reboot Ninja Gaiden.
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3684940]None of what you mentioned would be needed. Not one thing.
Storm was the last person he visited prior to thinking the world was ending. That's reason enough to have her in the flash backs. The house cleaning was done, and he really hasn't added much to Wakanda, just to Storm.
It was two years of bullsh#t.
Plus, as you said this requires no knowledge, so by that acknowledgement nothing in the two years prior is all that relevant. This is a completely new cast.[/QUOTE]
I definitely think a bit of house cleaning needed to be done. Getting Shuri back was necessary, and in the least getting Storm back was a priority to Coates.
Plus Time Runs Out left a lot of potentially unresolved dram a on the table because of what T'Challa and Wakanda went through. Again, that could have in theory been hand waved away by Hickmans ending, but he didn't know it.
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I would much prefer T'Challa to have his own title than to be in an Avengers video game due to the fact that even if he was in the game, he would likely be overshadowed by other heroes despite his movie making a huge amount of money so I have no expectations .
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3685026]I would much prefer T'Challa to have his own title than to be in an Avengers video game due to the fact that even if he was in the game, he would likely be overshadowed by other heroes despite his movie making a huge amount of money so I have no expectations .[/QUOTE]
He should have his own game. He also will not get overshadowed.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3685026]I would much prefer T'Challa to have his own title than to be in an Avengers video game due to the fact that even if he was in the game, he would likely be overshadowed by other heroes despite his movie making a huge amount of money so I have no expectations .[/QUOTE]
I'm a little surprised they haven't been making more video games for the marvel characters given how successful the movies have been. I recall they did give all the phase 1 games their own games but after that it was mostly app games apart from the Lego and Capcom stuff.
But it sounds like that's changing. Spider-Man at least is getting a game. Maybe more will follow.
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[QUOTE=Pulp Fiction;3684926]E3 is coming soon. June 11th and Square Enix's Avengers game is gonna be there. There's a good chance Black panther will be in the game. What's some things you'd like to see done with him? Like how he plays, the design of the suit or abilities?[/QUOTE]
Daggers as projectile
Weave armor for force pysh abilities that u can strategically buiild up and use
Acrobatic movements
Claws to cut stuff
Keep it simple
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3684942]Basically I want T'challa to play like Ryu in reboot Ninja Gaiden.[/QUOTE]
Though we're only 1 issue in this story arc, can't help but wonder if this wouldn't actually make for a a descent premise for a video game
The story almost sounds like a video game plot, where the protagonist starts off in a dungeoun without his memory.
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[QUOTE=Jabare;3684333]As for this issue the I'm not sure Coates ever liked the original concept of Black Panther or Wakanda, from what I've read of his articles and his prior comics that seems to be the case...[B]He really isn't a fan of championing monarchies, empires, kingdoms or nobility.[/B] I understand that especially when you're applying real world rationale and analogies to it, but his narratives don't jive with the prior canon to me. This feels more like the story he wanted to write. An underdog story, because everyone loves an underdog story.[/QUOTE]
All the more reason why he should have never applied for the job and/or the BP/Avengers editors should have never hired him in the first place.
After everything T'Challa and Wakanda have been through since the shytery that was DW, how could they have agreed to the further destruction and deconstruction (with additional revisionist bull-crap, to salt the wound) of what was initially and purposely conceptualised to be uplifting, inpirational and purely original (within the context of the MU back then)?