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Ah, I see. My bad.
[QUOTE=Frontier;3235480]Well, on paper one is the highly-intelligent king of an advanced African society while the other is a football player with very advanced prosthetics attached to him.
Of course that doesn't necessarily mean one is much more relateable then the other, because it all depends on the execution and what people read into it.[/QUOTE]
That's sort of the funny thing. On paper Cyborg absolutely sounds like the more relatable character because he's a normal kid who got turned into a machine rather than a wealthy king, yet Panther is the one black people have been seeing themselves in and been inspired by.
It's probably unfair because like I said, Cyborg is just part of a team anyway, but when you compare the hype between the two, one is clearly connecting more with black folk. There ain't no #CyborgSoLit.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3235446]Lol.
There was other some other guy that said that Cyborg is more relatable than BP.[/QUOTE]
Probably a failed football player his own damn self (without as good of an excuse!)
I'm sure Prowler is more relatable for a lot of folks because Prowler was a failure in life.
But I don't think that's fair to hold that against BP.
"Your day to day life doesn't suck as much as mine T'Challa! I just can't relate to you :( "
I guess nerdy 5'10 6 pack having Peter Parker with his slew of supermodels and victoria secret looking cat burgler chicks is more relatable for the average 5'7 fat american. But hopefully all the above can find some commonality with Black Panther and still find joy in the character the same way I do.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;3235432]Is Monica coming back?
[url]https://twitter.com/EvNarc/status/930297314421411840[/url]
Evan seems to know his BP. I'm hyped for the book and Renaud's art is top tier.[/QUOTE]
[B]EVAN!!!! Dude be on point with his BP history. Seriously man i hope he becomes the next Hudlin and is a break out star. I want his Run to be successful enough to become a second ongoing. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN! Marvel needs to also through some Variants his way and to hype up his book[/B]
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[QUOTE=Holt;3235560]Ah, I see. My bad.
That's sort of the funny thing. On paper Cyborg absolutely sounds like the more relatable character because he's a normal kid who got turned into a machine rather than a wealthy king, yet Panther is the one black people have been seeing themselves in and been inspired by.
It's probably unfair because like I said, Cyborg is just part of a team anyway, but when you compare the hype between the two, one is clearly connecting more with black folk. There ain't no #CyborgSoLit.[/QUOTE]
I think Cyborg is more a Peter Parker while T'Challa is more a Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne. One is more like us, while the other is what we wish we were. And it's nice to have both.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3235446]Lol.
There was other some other guy that said that Cyborg is more relatable than BP.[/QUOTE]
[B]The reason T'Challa is connecting more is simple. He represents black excellence, He represents a fully realized black man, unshackled by ineptitude, racist supremacist, and is fully allowed to embrace his blackness. He represents what Black should be, powerful unabated, and able to stand with the best.
Cyborg comes off as simply a token black guy, disfigured, castrated black man who doesn't have all of his human features. I mean really who do you think people are going to gravitate to? [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3235743][B]EVAN!!!! Dude be on point with his BP history. Seriously man i hope he becomes the next Hudlin and is a break out star. I want his Run to be successful enough to become a second ongoing. WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN! Marvel needs to also through some Variants his way and to hype up his book[/B][/QUOTE]
T'Challa and Monica Lynne in BP 2
[IMG]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nicole+Beharie+Chadwick+Boseman+45th+NAACP+inkolrUEvGhl.jpg[/IMG]
That love triangle gon be ill.
Hopefully no one gets kicked out a plane
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3235413]So a handful of black people on twitter, out of all black people in the world, feel like [B]d-riding Cyborg at BP's expense[/B], and all of a sudden [B]we got some fabricated BP v Cyborg beef? [/B]
Come on guys, some ppl just like to be different just because. And half those people agreeing with her just want to get in her DMs anyway. They know not what they do.
T'Challa and Victor are part of the same struggle. T'Challa is just better looking with all his body parts in tact. But ultimately they and we (and John Stewart) are all black friends here[/QUOTE]
Easy-they see Cyborg because of who he is hanging out with-Bat Jesus, WW & Superman and that is all he is doing. He is star struck and may never get to save the day.
Black Panther-is living in black wall street. He is not hanging out with Capt, Iron Man, BW, X-Men and so on. He has also saved the day without help. He has also been seen by himself solving issues beyond a trope like Cyborg has been restricted to.
Panther is where Cyborg should have been a long time ago.
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[B]when Cyborg grows up to Black Panther status we can have this talk. Check back in about 50 years.[/B][/QUOTE]
Well that ends that debate once and for all.
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3235764]T'Challa and Monica Lynne in BP 2
[IMG]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nicole+Beharie+Chadwick+Boseman+45th+NAACP+inkolrUEvGhl.jpg[/IMG]
That love triangle gon be ill.
Hopefully no one gets kicked out a plane[/QUOTE]
Can Nicole sing?
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3235753][B]The reason T'Challa is connecting more is simple. He represents black excellence, He represents a fully realized black man, unshackled by ineptitude, racist supremacist, and is fully allowed to embrace his blackness. He represents what Black should be, powerful unabated, and able to stand with the best.
Cyborg comes off as simply a token black guy, disfigured, castrated black man who doesn't have all of his human features. I mean really who do you think people are going to gravitate to? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'd just like to point out that it was established that Victor isn't castrated and that there was never any proof he was. And black people can connect with different role models .
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I'm loathe to get into this discussion but it definitely looked like the lower half of his body was obliterated in his New 52 origin. David Walker, a black man, said this particularly bothered him, which is why a major plot point in his run was Cyborg gaining the ability to regenerate the organic portions of his body as a fusion with his cybernetic parts.
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cDpJUvc28uo/VnyJJj5zsgI/AAAAAAAANOY/WhMUIq270Ak/s1600/Cyborg2.jpg[/IMG]
BTW, David Walker's Cyborg was pretty good.
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[QUOTE=Holt;3235996]I'm loathe to get into this discussion but it definitely looked like the lower half of his body was obliterated in his New 52 origin. David Walker, a black man, said this particularly bothered him, which is why a major plot point in his run was Cyborg gaining the ability to regenerate the organic portions of his body as a fusion with his cybernetic parts.
[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cDpJUvc28uo/VnyJJj5zsgI/AAAAAAAANOY/WhMUIq270Ak/s1600/Cyborg2.jpg[/IMG]
BTW, David Walker's Cyborg was pretty good.[/QUOTE]
It was decent. He did a lot of fixing that fans of the character wanted to see. Then for whatever reason, DC had John Semper ignore it so that [I]he[/I] could fix issues that had already been addressed ( only now slightly less compellingly).
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3235764]T'Challa and Monica Lynne in BP 2
[IMG]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nicole+Beharie+Chadwick+Boseman+45th+NAACP+inkolrUEvGhl.jpg[/IMG]
That love triangle gon be ill.
Hopefully no one gets kicked out a plane[/QUOTE]
Oh god, I used to watch her on that Fox show Sleepy Hollow
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Hopefully Marvel would treat her better than the Sleepy Hollow writers.
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Black Panther Lego figures.
[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BbenkxgD6qr/?taken-by=agoodfella_minifigs[/url]