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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3619906]This movie is going to make a lot of money outside of the United States so the chance of it flopping would be very minimal due to the large fanbase.
The United States box office however is what we nee to look out for just because the USA is where BP made most of its money and that would affect IW if fans are left unfilled and disappointed. However, I still think IW will be huge overall. 2 billion at least but I might be overestimating the numbers.[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping it does well enough to try this again, because I'm sure the movie was probably ridiculously expensive to make and a lot of hard work. Unless this does ridiculously well, I doubt they would try something like this again.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3619886]The trailer does show lots of fighting in Wakanda, so I think it's a given we'll get that. But they shouldn't expect that he's going to be the focus of the movie. Even in those movie trailer spots, he's sharing the screen with like a dozen other super heroes.
As far as people returning for a second and third viewing... every other Avengers movie has hit the billion dollar mark, so this one should be fine. If it flops then yeah... marvel and Disney would have a lot of egg on their face over it given the build up.[/QUOTE]
Last Avengers films aka Cap 3 and Avengers 3 had trash legs. Their legs were a joke to Black panthers legs, last Avengers made all it's money from fanboys on opening weekend, then dropped like a rock, Seems Disney is trying to use Black panther new fanbase to get them legs but not respect the fanbase that's giving you them new huge legs.
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[QUOTE=goku200;3619915]Last Avengers films aka Cap 3 and Avengers 3 had trash legs. Their legs were a joke to Black panthers legs, last Avengers made all it's money from fanboys on opening weekend, then dropped like a rock, Seems Disney is trying to use Black panther new fanbase to get them legs but not respect the fanbase that's giving you them new huge legs.[/QUOTE]
As long as you're getting what you see in the trailer (ie BP fighting alongside the Avengers in Wakanda), I don't think it'll be a huge problem. Again, nothing promises that he will be the focal point of the movie. Just that he alongside a bunch of other heroes will take part in this epic battle in Wakanda. If we're getting what the trailers are advertising, then I don't see them as really disprespecting anyone.
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When can we post spoilers?
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3619906]This movie is going to make a lot of money outside of the United States so the chance of it flopping would be very minimal due to the large fanbase.
The United States box office however is what we nee to look out for just because the USA is where BP made most of its money and that would affect IW if fans are left unfilled and disappointed. However, I still think IW will be huge overall. 2 billion at least but I might be overestimating the numbers.[/QUOTE]
Nope, IW is not making no where near 2 BILLION, max at 1.7 billion. USA box office is more important then overseas. this is because Disney gets much more of the money at home. IW will make most of it's money overseas. Iw will have bad legs here. Only way it legs hold as well as Black panther is if the new fan base the MCU got from BP comes out every week for 10 weeks like they did for BP.
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[QUOTE=BBeeryan;3619855]We've already acknowledged this. It doesn't change the truth of the situation. Black Panther brought in a lot of new fans to MCU movies. There were multiple stories about Black Panther inspiring new viewers that were never intrested in Marvel movies. Most of those fans tat were so enamored with him, more than likely saw trailers IW and made the assumption "I'm gonna be treated to more visual feasts of Wakanda". When those people come to see King T'Challa of Wakanda and aren't given what they expected, it isn't likely that they will return for second and third viewings. A lot of seconds and thirds played into Black Panther's success.[/QUOTE]
The situation you are describing is to be expected and there is nothing that can be done about it. That's marketing, and its always been marketing. This isn't BP 2, more like Civil War x 10.
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[QUOTE=Montez;3619935]When can we post spoilers?[/QUOTE]
not until Friday.
If you want to direct/personal message people thats fine
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[QUOTE=Jabare;3619946]The situation you are describing is to be expected and there is nothing that can be done about it. That's marketing, and its always been marketing. This isn't BP 2, more like Civil War x 10.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully It's legs are like Civil Wars too.
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[QUOTE=goku200;3619955]Hopefully It's legs are like Civil Wars too.[/QUOTE]
might be. Cvil War didn't have bad legs. That film didn't do nearly as well as Black Panther for all the reasons we realize, but Black Panther is one of the best films in movie history and its box-office success validates that.
I also don't think your giving fans enough credit. My parents and older relatives went out to see Black Panther and they don't even like superhero films. They most likely won't see IW. Black Panther was an event! I have friends who don't watch too many movies, that work on Wall Street etc. and don't follow movies or pop culture like I do, but they saw Black Panther. The Black Panther film was the event of 2018. I don't think people should expect IW too replicate that. I feel bad for people who might think that because they will be disappointed.
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[QUOTE=goku200;3619955]Hopefully It's legs are like Civil Wars too.[/QUOTE]
Civil Wars box office like quadrupled it's budget, so I don't think Disney or Marvel would mind too much if this movie did the same.
Course, I doubt infinity War will do that well given it was twice as expensive to make. But in the same breath, I'm not sure any of us really need to lose any sleep over how well it will perform at the box office. Avengers franchise I'm sure will do just fine.
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Studio doesn't give a **** about legs.
All that matters is the total as soon as possible. They get a MUCH higher percentage of the ticket percentage the first few weeks.
The more "known" the movie is, the less legs it is going to have because people are going to see it as soon as possible. If it is "must see" with "must see hype," people go see it ASAP. Which is what the studios want.
Trailers only job is to get people to the theater once in the first 2 weekends. If these "new" fans that came for BP go to IW even once, the marketing team 100% did their job and won. Doesn't matter what their reaction is after the fact. These people would have never seen IW otherwise.
Acting like CW failed in any shape way or form is hilarious.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3619998]Studio doesn't give a **** about legs.
All that matters is the total as soon as possible. They get a MUCH higher percentage of the ticket percentage the first few weeks.
The more "known" the movie is, the less legs it is going to have because people are going to see it as soon as possible. If it is "must see" with "must see hype," people go see it ASAP. Which is what the studios want.
Trailers only job is to get people to the theater once in the first 2 weekends. If these "new" fans that came for BP go to IW even once, the marketing team 100% did their job and won. Doesn't matter what their reaction is after the fact. These people would have never seen IW otherwise.
Acting like CW failed in any shape way or form is hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Ask WB if they care about legs after Batman v Superman dropped like a rock and Wonder woman had huge legs, Civil war was a fail only because it's Avengers 2.5 not a solo film, so it should have been much bigger.
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[QUOTE=goku200;3620159]Ask WB if they care about legs after Batman v Superman dropped like a rock and Wonder woman had huge legs, Civil war was a fail only because it's Avengers 2.5 not a solo film, so it should have been much bigger.[/QUOTE]
If BvS had earned over a billion dollars, I doubt WB would care what sort of legs their movie had either. When you quadruple your budget, you're in pretty good shape regardless of whether that money came week 1 or week 4.
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Im reading some of the critics reviews overall pretty positive..
It does seem like the critics were more excited for BP SOLO
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Listening to Grace Randolph's review, she did have some issues with the BP characters.