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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1649236]Seriously hope that won't be the case.[/QUOTE]
Just speculating of course... but that could be the plot of Infinity War.
It would almost be sort of like Infinity as we'd see him invading Asgard, the Nova Corps, the Collector, Wakanda and Strange if they have gems, and of course the Avengers. It's a nice way to sort of bring everything together.
But we'll see.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1649283]Just speculating of course... but that could be the plot of Infinity War.
It would almost be sort of like Infinity as we'd see him invading Asgard, the Nova Corps, the Collector, Wakanda and Strange if they have gems, and of course the Avengers. It's a nice way to sort of bring everything together.
But we'll see.[/QUOTE]
I am really curious to see how powerful they portray Thanos.
They have to be careful with it. Too powerful and it is 100% unbelievable that the Avengers stop him. Not powerful enough and IW will fall flat after this long building up to it.
Plus, if he invades and takes the gems all by force with ease, it is like, "why the hell didn't he do that to start with" Although the answer to that could simply be he was trying ot do it on the sly to avoid attention from the other cosmic heavy hitters (like say, Odin and such)
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[QUOTE=XPac;1649263]I presume Soul Gem will show up in Dr. Strange.
[B]If they wanted I suppose they could essentually make the Time Gem King Solomons Frogs[/B].[/QUOTE]
Funny because I was thinking the same thing
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649292]I am really curious to see how powerful they portray Thanos.
They have to be careful with it. Too powerful and it is 100% unbelievable that the Avengers stop him. Not powerful enough and IW will fall flat after this long building up to it.
Plus, if he invades and takes the gems all by force with ease, it is like, "why the hell didn't he do that to start with" Although the answer to that could simply be he was trying ot do it on the sly to avoid attention from the other cosmic heavy hitters (like say, Odin and such)[/QUOTE]
I imagine that the main reason he's having underlings do all the leg work is for efficienty. The universe is a big place and he's gotta find and acquire all of them.
But Guardians likely showed the downside of delegating the work. There's clearly no guranteen once his agents acquire the gems they're going to give it to him. So he pretty much needs to do it himself, which is a simpler task I suppose since the majority have at least been found (though 2 are still out there somewhere).
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[QUOTE=XPac;1649283]Just speculating of course... but that could be the plot of Infinity War.
It would almost be sort of like Infinity as we'd see him invading Asgard, the Nova Corps, the Collector, Wakanda and Strange if they have gems, and of course the Avengers. It's a nice way to sort of bring everything together.
But we'll see.[/QUOTE]
Just not a fan of having Wakanda ravaged on screen as soon as it's introduced to the MCU. Maybe if the movie was coming after the 2nd or 3rd BP film.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649292]I am really curious to see how powerful they portray Thanos.
They have to be careful with it. Too powerful and it is 100% unbelievable that the Avengers stop him. Not powerful enough and IW will fall flat after this long building up to it.
Plus, if he invades and takes the gems all by force with ease, it is like, "why the hell didn't he do that to start with" Although the answer to that could simply be he was trying ot do it on the sly to avoid attention from the other cosmic heavy hitters (like say, Odin and such)[/QUOTE]
I also heard in one of the interviews that the team working on the Infinity Wars movie looked in to comics such as the Infinity book which included Thanos's Black Order so the inclusion of those guys would definitely make Thanos untouchable in a way
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1649331]Just not a fan of having Wakanda ravaged on screen as soon as it's introduced to the MCU. Maybe if the movie was coming after the 2nd or 3rd BP film.[/QUOTE]
I feel like it will be how it was done in the comics
Black Dwarf will be sent to Wakanda
Corvius Glave and Proxima Midnight will be sent to New York
Ebony Maw will be sent to Dr Strange etc.
I think this will actually show how powerful Wakanda is so I don't think we will see Wakanda destroyed. Probably be a lot of casualties though
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1649331]Just not a fan of having Wakanda ravaged on screen as soon as it's introduced to the MCU. Maybe if the movie was coming after the 2nd or 3rd BP film.[/QUOTE]
The flip side though is that if they wanna show how advanced and powerful the Wakandan army, you're probably not going to do it facing off against Killmonger or Man Ape. If you wanna see the movies bust out Wakandan Star Wars Tech, a battle against Thanos invading forces is where you'd see it.
It's not like Wakanda would have be be completely destroyed for Thanos to get the gem.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649344]I feel like it will be how it was done in the comics
Black Dwarf will be sent to Wakanda
Corvius Glave and Proxima Midnight will be sent to New York
Ebony Maw will be sent to Dr Strange etc.
I think this will actually show how powerful Wakanda is so I don't think we will see Wakanda destroyed. Probably be a lot of casualties though[/QUOTE]
Can't help but think if Thanos does send Black Dwarf, Wakanda's going to get a nice Round One victory. Though that probably means Round Two would be that much more brutal.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649344]I feel like it will be how it was done in the comics
Black Dwarf will be sent to Wakanda
Corvius Glave and Proxima Midnight will be sent to New York
Ebony Maw will be sent to Dr Strange etc.
I think this will actually show how powerful Wakanda is so I don't think we will see Wakanda destroyed. Probably be a lot of casualties though[/QUOTE]
Thanos has to get the Gem though. So its either Thanos/his army destroys Wakanda and takes it, or someone steals it during the mayham. Both scenarios results in Wakanda failing honestly. And, it is too early for that.
It would just be an odd scenario regardless. IF we say T'challa and Wakanda push back say... Black Dwarf, that means Thanos comes for it next. And he has to succeed...
But how does T'challa survive that situation? HE is the protector of Wakanda. If Thanos comes, that means HE has to be the one to confront him. And that will just get him power smashed into oblivion lol.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649360]Thanos has to get the Gem though. So its either Thanos/his army destroys Wakanda and takes it, or someone steals it during the mayham. Both scenarios results in Wakanda failing honestly. And, it is too early for that.
It would just be an odd scenario regardless. IF we say T'challa and Wakanda push back say... Black Dwarf, that means Thanos comes for it next. And he has to succeed...
But how does T'challa survive that situation? HE is the protector of Wakanda. If Thanos comes, that means HE has to be the one to confront him. And that will just get him power smashed into oblivion lol.[/QUOTE]
I think the overall idea would be that Thanos is more powerful than any of the groups individually, and they'll all need to work togther (probably in the second movie) to stop him. Thanos will beat Strange and Black Panther and the Avengers... but everyone working together dog piling Thanos will be able to get it done.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649360]Thanos has to get the Gem though. So its either Thanos/his army destroys Wakanda and takes it, or someone steals it during the mayham. Both scenarios results in Wakanda failing honestly. And, it is too early for that.
It would just be an odd scenario regardless. IF we say T'challa and Wakanda push back say... Black Dwarf, that means Thanos comes for it next. And he has to succeed...
But how does T'challa survive that situation? HE is the protector of Wakanda. If Thanos comes, that means HE has to be the one to confront him. And that will just get him power smashed into oblivion lol.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. After the first round they might decide to take it out of Wanda. Maybe give it to the Inhumans or something
Besides, we aren't even sure if Wakanda or T'Challa will be in the first Infinity Wars film considering the fact that he has a movies coming out months before Infinity part 1 unless they shoot it back to back but that would be time consuming and exhausting
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649394]Not necessarily. After the first round they might decide to take it out of Wanda. Maybe give it to the Inhumans or something[/quote]
IF Wakanda has a gem, then they have had it for a LOOONG time. Meaning, they likely have an attachment to it and it has to serve some purpose to their society.
A Warrior culture that has never lost isn't going to suddenly go, "well, we can't handle the next threat so lets give it away." It would be more like this...
[img]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/3279288-new+avengers+v3+009-021.jpg[/img]
[quote]
Besides, we aren't even sure if Wakanda or T'Challa will be in the first Infinity Wars film considering the fact that he has a movies coming out months before Infinity part 1 unless they shoot it back to back but that would be time consuming and exhausting[/QUOTE]
They are filming IW 1 and 2 back to back... so Chadwick is going to be busy for sure.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649394]Not necessarily. After the first round they might decide to take it out of Wanda. Maybe give it to the Inhumans or something
Besides, we aren't even sure if Wakanda or T'Challa will be in the first Infinity Wars film considering the fact that he has a movies coming out months before Infinity part 1 unless they shoot it back to back but that would be time consuming and exhausting[/QUOTE]
[B]I would assume he is gonna be in the IW part 1 & 2, Marvel is really pushing Panther to be introduced into the MCU so it wouldn't make any sense to exclude him from the biggest Marvel movie arc coming, even if it were just part 1. They can't exclude him, he will be too big of a character not to use. [/B]
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649231]Did we know this already?
I thought it was earlier than that for whatever reason.
Poop.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it was February at first
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1649426][B]I would assume he is gonna be in the IW part 1 & 2, Marvel is really pushing Panther to be introduced into the MCU so it wouldn't make any sense to exclude him from the biggest Marvel movie arc coming, even if it were just part 1. They can't exclude him, he will be too big of a character not to use. [/B][/QUOTE]
I think Infinity War will be all in. I think they're going to try and squeze as many people as they can in there.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1649421]IF Wakanda has a gem, then they have had it for a LOOONG time. Meaning, they likely have an attachment to it and it has to serve some purpose to their society.
A Warrior culture that has never lost isn't going to suddenly go, "well, we can't handle the next threat so lets give it away." It would be more like this...
[img]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/132594/3279288-new+avengers+v3+009-021.jpg[/img]
[B]They are filming IW 1 and 2 back to back... so Chadwick is going to be busy for sure[/B].[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations
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[QUOTE=XPac;1649436]I think Infinity War will be all in. I think they're going to try and squeze as many people as they can in there.[/QUOTE]
And Infinity War Pt.1 comes right after the BP solo film as well. Gotta keep the momentum going.
It would be interesting if the Russos will keep the tone that the previous Avengers movies had. I hope they make adjustments on that one (and that T'Challa and some of his supporting cast are featured in them as well).
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649442]I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations[/QUOTE]
Good point, but perhaps Chadwick can film his infinity war scenes right after the BP solo is done with production? Or, they can start production for the BP film early to allow him some time to prep for infinity war?
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649442]I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations[/QUOTE]
Well, no single Avenger is going to hog the screen and need to be on location for a TON of time just because of the sheer numbers that may be involved.
They could easily private plane Chadwick in and out as needed. Or film his scenes towards the end of production.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1649444]And Infinity War Pt.1 comes right after the BP solo film as well. Gotta keep the momentum going.
It would be interesting if the Russos will keep the tone that the previous Avengers movies had. I hope they make adjustments on that one (and that T'Challa and some of his supporting cast are featured in them as well).[/QUOTE]
I think it'll be almost a given that the movie won't be quite as quippy and humerous without Whedon directing. Joss has a certain trade mark humor. All the Marvel movies have humor... but with Whedon for better or for worse you've got a one liner in every other line of dialogue.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649442]I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations[/QUOTE]
They would make it work. As said before by private plane getting him where he needs to be or by getting his scenes at the end. Or they would delay his 2nd movie to allow him into IW part 1& 2, as that will be a bigger movie to put him in if they need to choose between his solo or the Avengers movies
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I don't have audio right now, but in the video in the article below, there appears to be a new concept art of BP (more of a scene rather than the costume), and Boseman gives a talking head interview. I'm assuming the clothes he's wearing have the possibility of being T'Challa's civilian outfit as they usually shoot these things on set. Could just be Boseman's attire though.
[URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-debuts-civil-war-doctor-strange-featurettes"]http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-debuts-civil-war-doctor-strange-featurettes[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1649482]They would make it work. As said before by private plane getting him where he needs to be or by getting his scenes at the end. Or they would delay his 2nd movie to allow him into IW part 1& 2, as that will be a bigger movie to put him in if they need to choose between his solo or the Avengers movies[/QUOTE]
Truthfully they could probably cgi BP in the movie if they really had to. Or just get a stunt man and have Boseman do voice over later.
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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1649945]I don't have audio right now, but in the video in the article below, there appears to be a new concept art of BP (more of a scene rather than the costume), and Boseman gives a talking head interview. I'm assuming the clothes he's wearing have the possibility of being T'Challa's civilian outfit as they usually shoot these things on set. Could just be Boseman's attire though.
[URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-debuts-civil-war-doctor-strange-featurettes"]http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-debuts-civil-war-doctor-strange-featurettes[/URL][/QUOTE]
Good stuff!
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Nice.
[IMG]http://mcuexchange.com/content/images/2015/12/civil_war_and_doctor_strange_art.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649442]I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations[/QUOTE]
It's not as big a problem as you're making it out to be. They have stand-ins and body doubles for a reason. We're in an era where it's not at all uncommon for actors to be CGI'ed into a scene later. A lot of the last fight scenes filmed in Civil War were done with stand-ins and doubles to accommodate people's schedules, and Black Panther wearing a costume that covers him from head to toe makes it ten times easier.
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[QUOTE=Holt;1650832]It's not as big a problem as you're making it out to be. They have stand-ins and body doubles for a reason. We're in an era where it's not at all uncommon for actors to be CGI'ed into a scene later. A lot of the last fight scenes filmed in Civil War were done with stand-ins and doubles to accommodate people's schedules, and Black Panther wearing a costume that covers him from head to toe makes it ten times easier.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Boseman may be able to pull of a RDJ with the Avengers films. Downey's not even on set most of the time he's in the suit.
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Tomorrow Black Panther The Complete Collection vol 2 hits specialty stores. Comes out at regular retail stores in a couple more weeks.
EDIT: Correction. Wednesday is the day it hits. For some reason I thought yesterday was Tuesday.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1649442]I'm talking about the BP movie because they may both be filming around the same time. He can't do both at the same time especially when they are filming in different locations[/QUOTE]
You know they probably got this all figured out right?
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[QUOTE=Moose100;1651164]You know they probably got this all figured out right?[/QUOTE]
Not if they don't have a complete script I believe
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1651292]Not if they don't have a complete script I believe[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't start filming if they didn't have a finalized script. Though even with a finalized script there'll be tweaks made to it right up to and even during the filming, which is something that happens with most Marvel films.
At this point you're just looking for things to worry about despite there being NO reason to worry about anything. Marvel hasn't released or said anything to cause concern about the Black Panther movie. The only negative news surrounding the project has come from a source that's continually been wrong about Black Panther movie news.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1651366]They wouldn't start filming if they didn't have a finalized script. Though even with a finalized script there'll be tweaks made to it right up to and even during the filming, which is something that happens with most Marvel films.
At this point you're just looking for things to worry about despite there being NO reason to worry about anything. Marvel hasn't released or said anything to cause concern about the Black Panther movie. The only negative news surrounding the project has come from a source that's continually been wrong about Black Panther movie news.[/QUOTE]
What have I done now?
Not worried just I'm just stating facts here. If Thor 2 can have a 3 script writers, principle photography start date, a director and the fact that it comes out 2-months before BP, then why can't the same happen to BP. Even Captain Marvel which comes out a year after is making progress than BP in terms of solo movies if you ask me. If that's what you call worrying, then yes I'm VERY worried.
And some one asks about sorting out the filming location by now and I said not if they don't have a script yet that that won't be possible.
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I doubt they're going to just slap something together at the last minute. As it's been pointed out Marvel Productions at this point has a formula that works and they know what they want to put on screen. Having said that, my biggest concern is are we going to get a financially successful yet generic action film? I really want something special for the BP movie. It'll be a wasted opportunity if they give us movie with explosions and wisecracks but no substance.
On the other hand, while it's fun to speculate what they might do, there's not much point in making ourselves crazy seeing as we have no idea what the movie has planned. It's not even in production yet. I mean I know I've thrown some possible criticisms out there, but still you can't judge BP on news that we haven't gotten yet. Keep in mind not everything is set in stone before folks start working on a movie so some news might not be released because they're still working out logistics, business deals, etc...
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So, my employee brought in the EW magazine so I re-read the article
It specifically says "It's not just durable, it has the ability to absorb energy. It has the ability to absorb the attack of another person and repel or respond to that attack"
Is really, really seems the comics and the movie people both though of the "force push" thing at the exact same time...
oh, and it says his claws are vibranium, no mention of Anti-Matter.
And there are some other things in the actual article vs the online article...
[QUOTE]His allegiance is savagely fought for by both Cap and Iron Man, and T'challa is doing his best to remain neutral, at least witht he mask off. "He's torn between how things were done in the past and how things need to happen in this new world. And I think there's perhaps a bit of maverick there[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]A peerless warrior, too. On set, Panther, armed with claws of Vibranum, [B]gallops forward ON ALL FOURS[/B] like his name sack animal and full on tackles his prey. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1651292]Not if they don't have a complete script I believe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1651402]
And some one asks about sorting out the filming location by now and I said not if they don't have a script yet that that won't be possible.[/QUOTE]
Even if they don't have a complete script they're gonna have a rough estimation of how long they'll be shooting the film for. They have agents and other people behind the scenes sorting out actor engagements and scheduling so this isn't an issue. Black Panther filming around the same time as Infinity War is no different from other instances of actors having more than one project on the table at the same time.
There's also reshoots, which have been done with pretty much every single MCU film since the Avengers at this point.
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Pretty sure Marvel has hired Joe Robert Cole to write the first draft of BP. Marvel is then probably looking to have a director come in and rewrite it. We know they're talking with Coogler. I'm hoping we hear something by January.
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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1651905]Pretty sure Marvel has hired Joe Robert Cole to write the first draft of BP. Marvel is then probably looking to have a director come in and rewrite it. We know they're talking with Coogler. I'm hoping we hear something by January.[/QUOTE]
Lets hope for the best and that Coogler does not leave like Ava did
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1651995]Lets hope for the best and that Coogler does not leave like Ava did[/QUOTE]
If he wants. I can give him all the BP books I have for him to get his inspiration from lol
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1651995]Lets hope for the best and that Coogler does not leave like Ava did[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1652018]If he wants. I can give him all the BP books I have for him to get his inspiration from lol[/QUOTE]
Lol. I think Marvel will take care of that, but I've thought about reaching out (I think he has twitter) and sending him stuff myself.