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i dont think its reasonable for wakanda to stay a isolationist country in the modern age. definitely have to respect the elder panthers wisdom. but times change and what was right 100 years ago wont always work in a modern age
also really enjoyed the comparisons to how wakanda has acted over the years to how america has treated its foreign policy at times.
[QUOTE=FriendRoss;78230]i dont think its reasonable for wakanda to stay a isolationist country in the modern age. definitely have to respect the elder panthers wisdom. but times change and what was right 100 years ago wont always work in a modern age
also really enjoyed the comparisons to how wakanda has acted over the years to how america has treated its foreign policy at times.[/QUOTE]
I've always been an advocate for Wakanda opening its borders. But in the same vein I like the mystical aspects. Perhaps making the surrounding area so difficult to survive that those who wish to visit--have to fight through some insane terrain and creatures to get there.
The one thing I didnt like in recent issues is how easy it was for invaders to just show up in the jungle and penetrate Wakandan defenses..
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So far so good. =
But... Emma with telepathy again? Wut?
Mike Deodato is such an amazing artist. And whats this?..Jason Aaron writing in character dialogue.
[QUOTE=ExcelsiorPrime;78372]Mike Deodato is such an amazing artist. And whats this?..Jason Aaron writing in character dialogue.[/QUOTE]
Looks like he may be in Thor: God of Thunder mode instead ot WatXM mode.
[QUOTE=ExcelsiorPrime;78372]Mike Deodato is such an amazing artist. And whats this?..Jason Aaron writing in character dialogue.[/QUOTE]
hands down my favorite artists going right now
I think an important part of the identity of Wakanda in comics is being isolationist. The Black Panther is this mysterious leader from this mysterious rich African country nobody knows anything about about because nobody can go there. I think that is more compelling Wakanda just being a rich African country. Also the world has nothing to offer Wakanda. They are ahead of the world technologically. The end to isolationism would get Wakanda tied up in world politics and world conflict which would then take away resources that probably be used to continue Wakanda's development.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;77363]More fool him.[/QUOTE]
Dear old dad's ways didn't work out too well for him, either.
Dude's dead after all.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;78707]Dear old dad's ways didn't work out too well for him, either.
Dude's dead after all.[/QUOTE]
Truth.
I am glad Wakanda is no longer, "we are superior to all leave us alone we won't help you you don't help us"
T'challa should still put Wakanda first... and he is. Saving the universe = saving Wakanda.
[QUOTE=Zuri;78477]I think an important part of the identity of Wakanda in comics is being isolationist. The Black Panther is this mysterious leader from this mysterious rich African country nobody knows anything about about because nobody can go there. I think that is more compelling Wakanda just being a rich African country. Also the world has nothing to offer Wakanda. They are ahead of the world technologically. The end to isolationism would get Wakanda tied up in world politics and world conflict which would then take away resources that probably be used to continue Wakanda's development.[/QUOTE]
It would also open up Wakanda for inclusion in more stories from different marvel writters. Wakanda cannot stay isolated and expct to be involved more in the workings of the Marvel universe. T'challa is supposed to be that change. I want a wakanda that inserts it's opinions on world events that have potential to effect Wakanda instead of staying hidden away. I want T'challa to develop that Wakandan space program and take talented wakandans outside the walls to explore and grow as characters. More exposure and openness breeds more stories and opportunities.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;78707]Dear old dad's ways didn't work out too well for him, either.
Dude's dead after all.[/QUOTE]
regardless of which version you choose T'Challa's dad is dead because he dealt with outsiders.
[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;78912]regardless of which version you choose T'Challa's dad is dead because he dealt with outsiders.[/QUOTE]
Toon T'Chaka lost a tribal challenge to M'Baku (who cheated to win).
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;79004]Toon T'Chaka lost a tribal challenge to M'Baku (who cheated to win).[/QUOTE]
Klaw still Played a role in his murder
Original Sins #2 cover. YAY!
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[QUOTE=Ekie;78875]It would also open up Wakanda for inclusion in more stories from different marvel writers. Wakanda cannot stay isolated and expct to be involved more in the workings of the Marvel universe. T'challa is supposed to be that change. I want a wakanda that inserts it's opinions on world events that have potential to effect Wakanda instead of staying hidden away. I want T'challa to develop that Wakandan space program and take talented wakandans outside the walls to explore and grow as characters. More exposure and openness breeds more stories and opportunities.[/QUOTE]
Why? would it need to open up to be used in more stories? T'challa knows almost all the major heroes so it would not be strange for any of them to end up in Wakanda helping him or his sister out and for complex secret team type stories the heroes could be in Wakanda illegally trying to save the day before they are discovered, stories about Wakandan Mutants or Inhumans etc... there are lots of scenarios where an isolationist Wakanda can be involved with the wider Marvel world Its just up to the writers to use it in their books.
Also Wakanda already involves itself in world events that effect it. In Hudlin's run the Wakandan Secret service was compared to Mossad so they are very much active in protecting their interests internationally. I think there is a Wakandan Space program from Priests run those N'Yami battle cruisers go into low orbit when they travel long distances, this indicates to me that Wakandan scientists are familiar with space travel.
Isolationism does not prevent Wakandans from leavening Wakanda and exploring the outside world Onome's recruitment into the FF is a good example of this. Writers just have to want to use Wakandan characters in their stories.
I see T'challa as a guardian of Wakandian culture even more so as KOTD, so i don't see turning away from the isolationism that has served his people well for a thousand years.