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[QUOTE=XPac;3112487]It has to be more than just his voice, because he effected Hodari before he even spoke a word in that scene.
Again, it's possible T'Challa can and will develop tech to counter what Faustus did in the future... but obviously he didn't have something ready during SE and given Faustus is using an entirely new method to control people I'm not sure why we should assume he would.
But was the Wakandan army chumped? Yes... red shirts get chumped by actual villains. That's sort of the reason red shirts are in stories to begin with. Red shirts can do well against other red shirts, hence us seeing the Wakandan army dominating the Hydra army. But they pretty much always gets get beaten by actual villains. The actual heroes are needed to deal with that.[/QUOTE]
[B]That's How his mind control is supposed to work, through his voice. The whole thing was bullshit. Yes Redshirt's get defeated by villains. But for Wakandan army to be defeated by Faustus is a Huge slap in The face to Wakanda Given what we know about Wakanda and taking on big threats, and about Faustus being z list.
Funny how you defend everything that happens with some excuse. We could see some bullshit on panel of Doom coming up and back handing Tchalla, killing Ramonda, and leaving and in response Tchalla gives him a grumpy look and and you still would likely give an excuse for Such shitty writing.
Sometimes you need to call out bullshit when it happens[/B]
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3112804]OK, so well before Hudlin retconned Wakanda to have never been conquered.[/QUOTE]
Wakanda has never been conquered period.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3112804]OK, so well before Hudlin retconned Wakanda to have never been conquered.[/QUOTE]
Well, we all know how god he was with continuity ;)
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3112835]Wakanda has never been conquered period.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree, but it wasn't a key point of their story until Who is the Black Panther?
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3112797]It apparently different than yours since they keep saying Wakanda has never been conquered.
And Faustus isn't Shadow King.[/QUOTE]
Honestly yes, by my definition of conquered I'd say it's technically not accurate to say it was never conquered. But either way, hyping up the fact that Wakanda at least was never taken by force prior to the Cabal is certainly something worth praising. Overlooking stuff like Secret Wars 2 and Emperor Doom is no big deal.
And I would agree that Faustud is no shadow king. Nonetheless if there's any evidence that Wakanda has some sort of protocol against mass mind control I'm not seeing it. Though the tech we'really seeing in Coates run could theoretically be the seeds of that, at least against telepathy.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3112835]Wakanda has never been conquered period.[/QUOTE]
One of the recap pages in Doom War actually states that Wakamda has been conquered ( though honestly I wouldn't count that). I would however count the Cabal as Wakamda being conquered. And honestly I think SE probably would too, if Hydra has taken over the army and captured their king.
So I think we're past the point where we can say Wakanda has never been conquered.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3112946]Honestly yes, by my definition of conquered I'd say it's technically not accurate to say it was never conquered. But either way, hyping up the fact that Wakanda at least was never taken by force prior to the Cabal is certainly something worth praising. Overlooking stuff like Secret Wars 2 and Emperor Doom is no big deal.
And I would agree that Faustud is no shadow king. Nonetheless if there's any evidence that Wakanda has some sort of protocol against mass mind control I'm not seeing it. Though the tech we'really seeing in Coates run could theoretically be the seeds of that, at least against telepathy.[/QUOTE]
Wakanda wasn't taken by the Cabal. It was destroyed for sure, but never conquered.
The Cabal never set themselves up as rulers of Wakanda.
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[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;3112885]Well, we all know how god he was with continuity ;)[/QUOTE]
I think it's sort of like how they say T'Challa has never beaten Killmomger. To be an accurate statement you have to sweep a few instances u Der the rug on account of technicalities.
But hyping the notion of Wakanda being unconquered, just like hypin Killmomger being undefeated, is sort of more important for the storytelling so they just sort of let a few things fly by. You don't let facts get in the way of a good story I guess.
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[spoil]Well looks like the real Wolverine is making a comeback. If you ask me it's only a matter of time until the X-Office makes Storm fly out of Wakanda and hops in bed with him again. Lol.[/spoil]
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3115970][spoil]Well looks like the real Wolverine is making a comeback. If you ask me it's only a matter of time until the X-Office makes Storm fly out of Wakanda and hops in bed with him again. Lol.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
Time to gear up the band for the "I told you"
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3115982]Time to gear up the band for the "I told you"[/QUOTE]
They didn't want to listen when we said Coates was wasting his damn time. Reality always had other plans. Especially with 2018 right around the corner.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3115970][spoil]Well looks like the real Wolverine is making a comeback. If you ask me it's only a matter of time until the X-Office makes Storm fly out of Wakanda and hops in bed with him again. Lol.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
[B]Yep, saw that earlier. Gonna peace out like
[img]https://media.tenor.com/images/53285ed070aea4f963141d04a1d23fae/tenor.gif[/img][/B]
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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKXbiaEWkAALs68.jpg[/IMG]
Preist era Black panther by Kyle Hotz. Ball point pen sketch.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKcAW0VXcAAC6-8.jpg[/IMG]
Coates era Black Panther by Stelfreeze at Baltimore Comic con.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3115970][spoil]Well looks like the real Wolverine is making a comeback. If you ask me it's only a matter of time until the X-Office makes Storm fly out of Wakanda and hops in bed with him again. Lol.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
for you guys not to like storm u sure talk about her a lot lol.
and not going to happen. jean is coming back to and that's first love.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3115982]Time to gear up the band for the "I told you"[/QUOTE]
Hahahahah
To be fair, the [I]other[/I] one is coming back too. That other one was always the "main chick" anyway...