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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3738975][B]Yeah except Tchalla also called Monica a goddess too but we know that isn't the case. Storm isn't s goddess. The change and butchery of the Wakandan pantheon was completely unnecessary and damaging all for a character that belongs to a different franchise entirely[/B][/QUOTE]
Various stories have implied Storm possibly being divine for quite some time now, so she already had her foot in the door as far as godhood goes. So her being a goddess isn't really a stretch at all.
Whether or not that can be applied to just anyone however is a different matter. I wouldn't agree anyone off the street can become a god with Wakandans (or anyone else for that matter) decided to worship them. But I guess we'll see how Coates handles it from here.
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Might be a moot point, anyway:
[B]X-MEN GOLD #35[/B]
MARC GUGGENHEIM (W) • Michele Bandini (A)
Cover by Phil Noto
• The X-Men versus the undead!
• Goddess versus god!
• [COLOR="#0000FF"]And Storm’s final battle?[/COLOR]
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
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[QUOTE=XPac;3739336]Various stories have implied Storm possibly being divine for quite some time now, so she already had her foot in the door as far as godhood goes. So her being a goddess isn't really a stretch at all.
Whether or not that can be applied to just anyone however is a different matter. I wouldn't agree anyone off the street can become a god with Wakandans (or anyone else for that matter) decided to worship them. But I guess we'll see how Coates handles it from here.[/QUOTE]
[B] Except Tchalla would of been the obvious choice. You know, the actual protector or Wakanda (it would of still Been stupid to retcon the patheon but atleast it would of stayed in franchise)
No one anywhere else will acknowledge this stupid change. It will stick as much as "blue" will[/B]
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"Hey Marvel, you guys should really use Kasper Cole as he has great potential! But you shafted him on the name! How about 'Ghost Panther'?"
*reads that Marvel will release Ghost Panther*
"Yes!"
*reads "Ghost Panther, mashup of Ghost Rider and Black Panther"*
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[QUOTE=XPac;3739336]Various stories have implied Storm possibly being divine for quite some time now, so she already had her foot in the door as far as godhood goes. So her being a goddess isn't really a stretch at all.
Whether or not that can be applied to just anyone however is a different matter. I wouldn't agree anyone off the street can become a god with Wakandans (or anyone else for that matter) decided to worship them. But I guess we'll see how Coates handles it from here.[/QUOTE]
But there is one story in particular, written by Chris Claremont himself, that clearly established Storm as being nothing more than an extremely powerful mutant who some mistakenly likened to being a god.
Are we to now presume all mutants to be "gods" just off of Coates contrived fanfic?
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3739760][B] Except Tchalla would of been the obvious choice. You know, the actual protector or Wakanda (it would of still Been stupid to retcon the patheon but atleast it would of stayed in franchise)
No one anywhere else will acknowledge this stupid change. It will stick as much as "blue" will[/B][/QUOTE]
Sure, if the writer decided he wanted to make T'Challa a god he might have worked. Or Shuri, if they decided to make her a god. Storm was already considered a goddess by Wakandans, so she was an easy choice but there are different ways this could have gone. But right now, we've got Storm.
Again, I'm still skeptical this would work with a person who's not already divine anyways... but I suppose we won't know for sure until the Wakandans try something like this again. If they ever try something like this again. Again, I do think it's a handy trick if it works on anyone... but I doubt that's the case.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3739862]But there is one story in particular, written by Chris Claremont himself, that clearly established Storm as being nothing more than an extremely powerful mutant who some mistakenly likened to being a god.
Are we to now presume all mutants to be "gods" just off of Coates contrived fanfic?[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]They don't treat her like a goddess in the X-books.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3739885][COLOR="#000080"]They don't treat her like a goddess in the X-books.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
The often don't treat Thor and Hercules as gods in the Avenger books. It's sort of tough to consider a person a god when they're sort of your co-worker.
Gods I think are a bigger deal to the Wakandans because they still worship pantheon gods. But to someone like say Captain America, who orders gods around on a semi-regular basis, they're just really powerful super heroes.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3739760][B] Except Tchalla would of been the obvious choice. You know, the actual protector or Wakanda (it would of still Been stupid to retcon the patheon but atleast it would of stayed in franchise)
No one anywhere else will acknowledge this stupid change. It will stick as much as "blue" will[/B][/QUOTE]
I for one, wouldn't want to see T'challa worshipped as a "god. " (faux or otherwise)
I'm more invested in seeing him portrayed as a super genius intellectual Monarch of a superior nation of excellence.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3739885][COLOR="#000080"]They don't treat her like a goddess in the X-books.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
They surely don't.
She's all back of the bus over them sides.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3739884]Sure, if the writer decided he wanted to make T'Challa a god he might have worked. Or Shuri, if they decided to make her a god. Storm was already considered a goddess by Wakandans, so she was an easy choice but there are different ways this could have gone. But right now, we've got Storm.
Again, I'm still skeptical this would work with a person who's not already divine anyways... but I suppose we won't know for sure until the Wakandans try something like this again. If they ever try something like this again. Again, I do think it's a handy trick if it works on anyone... but I doubt that's the case.[/QUOTE]
[B]No because the retcon Coates does show's that regular Wakandans ascended to godhood. So the "easy choice" is Tchalla. It's his book, his nation, and he is the protector and the one his people would more likely pray to. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3739921][B]No because the retcon Coates does show's that regular Wakandans ascended to godhood. So the "easy choice" is Tchalla. It's his book, his nation, and he is the protector and the one his people would more likely pray to. [/B][/QUOTE]
I know you know that Coates only utilised his crappy recon as a convenient vehicle to elevate Storm at the BP mythos expense right?
Coates has no genuine love for T'challa or any of the core supporting cast that were in place before he initiated his nonsensical "No one man" rubbish so it's given that elevating anyone or anything to do with the BP mythos was never his intention.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3739921][B]No because the retcon Coates does show's that regular Wakandans ascended to godhood. So the "easy choice" is Tchalla. It's his book, his nation, and he is the protector and the one his people would more likely pray to. [/B][/QUOTE]
Eh... I'm still not sure I buy that Wakandans can literally transform anyone off the street into a god if they worship them. I still think it likely needs more than that. But I suppose we'll never know until they try it again.
As far as T'Challa … like I said, he was a possible choice as well. Not sure Coates or marvel would be all that interested in turning BP into a god. BUt if they wanted to hypothetically, I suppose they could have here. In Storms case, because she already has one foot in the door anyways, it was a pretty easy call. But they could have taken the story in other directions if they wanted to.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3739933]Eh... I'm still not sure I buy that Wakandans can literally transform anyone off the street into a god if they worship them. I still think it likely needs more than that. But I suppose we'll never know until they try it again.
As far as T'Challa … like I said, he was a possible choice as well. Not sure Coates or marvel would be all that interested in turning BP into a god. BUt if they wanted to hypothetically, I suppose they could have here. In Storms case, because she already has one foot in the door anyways, it was a pretty easy call. But they could have taken the story in other directions if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]
One foot in the door based on what exactly?
Coates say so?
I'd wager more on Claremont the veteran Storm scribe over Coates the Johnny come lately neophyte.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3739907]They surely don't.
She's all back of the bus over them sides.[/QUOTE]
I can't think of an X-character that's had a longer, unobstructed streak of always being on a team, usually in charge.
I wouldn't say that X uses Storm best, but she's always at the forefront, even longer than Wolverine or Cyke (who've spent time dead).
Frankly, I think Storm needs a limbo dive, if only so that writers can bring her back to do something actually interesting with her.