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[QUOTE=XPac;3197887]Though I'm a fan of Storm and T'Challa, I wouldn't be against him dating a super hero in some other book if him and Storm don't work out. It obviously gives him another book he can regularly appear in, which is nice. Not sure I'm a fan of Gamora though. Firstly because I think she and Starlord are a thing in the movies. But that aside as an old school Starlin fan, part of he still shops her and Adam Warlock.
But there are a lot of potentially viable female super heroes out there IF Storm and T'Challa don't work out (and again, I'm still rooting for them). Captain Marvel might be the closest to Storm as far as creating a power couple. Misty and T'Challa are already friends kinda, so they work. Electra might be fun, because adding ninjas to anything makes it cooler.
But not Sue. NOt that I don't think seeing Reeds reaction to that wouldn't be all sorts of fun, but that's the ONE relationship in marvel that I think actually stands a chance of lasting the test of time. It is funny how Sue seems to have a things for Kings though. Namor obviously, and even Doom in some alternate realities. If I were Medusa I'd keep an eye on Black Bolt.[/QUOTE]
There was actually a time in the comics where I felt that Tigra and T'Challa would have been good together. Obviously not now though cause I think they have her pretty locked in with Hank by this point. But years ago, there was a time where I thought they'd be really good together. That'd be near impossible to do now.
As far as anyone else goes. Star Lord and Gamora are 'kinda' happening in the movies, but not in the comics, similar to how Hulk and Widow never crossed over into the comics and [B](THOR RAGNAROK SPOILERS) [/B]so there's that too.
The main thing about Sue and Reed is that they may stand the test of time, but only because the narrative makes it that way. Any other woman would have left Reed by now, but Sue is kind of suehorned in to the "faithful wife" role and not that it's a bad thing, but it's the "Faithful wife even though she is a doormat to her husband" role essentially. The girl that is always wanting the attention she doesn't get at home and always entertains cheating(not leaving) but never gives into it.. the kind of woman that's entire storyarc with other men is "you treat me better than reed" and the conclusion is always "If I wasn't with Reed...I would.." which in my opinion shows great commitment and loyalty. But Reed's never at risk of losing it, which is why he is inconsistent with his attention.
It would probably shake up the Marvel world to have Sue leave Reed because of his negligence and just honestly having enough of it. You could tell a very interesting story about their divorce as well, and you can use the message of that to reach kids that may be dealing with that at home, especially those that blame themselves for it. Sue can still love Reed very much. But for all the things he has to do and sacrifice to be "THE" Reed Richards... is why it can't work out between himself and Sue.
Those kind of stories with the message at the end, especially considering that they would remain close friends and obviously do right by their children shows a different side and a different story altogether that I don't think Marvel really has tackled with any kind of consistent seriousness. Doing it with a character such as Sue Storm and Reed Richards would not only shake up the comic world but it would get people talking about the Fantastic Four again.
I think that they as a whole need something like that kind of shake up. Not JUST to get people talking, but to actually tell a cohesive and deep story that some people and children can also relate to. Which is the magic of stories like that when done correctly.
So if they did that with Sue Storm and Reed for THOSE reasons and pulled it off right, I'd be all for it.
If they did it for shock value... then I'd have an issue with it.
AS far as Sue Storm and Black Panther go. It could work, T'Challa is very devoted to Wakanda, and at times has chosen Wakanda over his friends, but he's also very devoted when it comes to who has his heart, as his relationship with Storm has proven. So it seems to me like he'd be able to balance both duty as well as paying the kind of attention to Sue that she deserves.
The main necessity that would come from this is that T'Challa WOULD need to appear in other comics outside of his own, being with Sue he isn't keeping her solely in Wakanda, and he isn't just going to stay in Wakanda while she goes abroad doing 'heroic' things going back and forth to New York to help raise the children with Reed.
So there'd have to be a situation where T'Challa was able to be in New York more often than usual and things can branch out into other aspects.
But for those reasons I don't trust MARVEL with that kind of delicate storytelling. Which is why I always preferred T'Challa or Tigra if not Storm. Because they are "easier" stories to tell, and the more complicated a story is, or the more effort you'd have to put into it to show it the respect it deserves, the less faith I have in MARVEL as of late to get it right.
But really.. if you wanted to ask me who I really would want to see T'Challa with if it wasn't Storm... my honest answer would have to be..
if I was being funny and comedic, Namora =P
But if I was being serious.. and actually felt like something special could be built on top of it.. I'd have to say M... Ms. Monet St. Croix herself
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She'd be my pic outside of Storm. Though she's going through this whole "I'm possessed and have this hunger" storyline and Sabretooth is kind of her comrade and stuff which means Marvel may be trying to push it in that direction eventually.
If you asked me what character I'd want to see T'Challa with outside of Storm.. I'd say M would be at or near the top of that list. Mainly because I think of T'Challa's personality as well as M's and think that they'd play off each other rather well.. more importantly there's room for growth because of those characteristics they have in order for that relationship to maintain and start. So that'd be at or near the top of my list for the girl I'd want to see T'Challa with outside of Storm and I think a great story could be done with the both of them.
Would I trust MARVEL to do it right? Probably not.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3197940][B]I think Tchalla should be a healthy mix of Priests and Hudlin's versions. He is charismatic like Hudlins version, but has a air of mysteriousness about him like Priest, where people, despite him being so friendly with them, feel like he is keeping them at a distance, like he knows something they don't.
Tchalla should be confident, borderline arrogant, but have reason for it. I think that is how Tchalla should be. It gives him plenty of people to bounce off of. As for LI, I mean there are some candidate's out there but personally o think getting home a an Avengers team as a leader or behind the scenes lead is more important. Hell marvel animation is going to do a BP centric season, Yet the comics continue to drag their feet. It's a wasted opportunity and it's stupid that the comics are treating Tchalla like they are, especially when he is blowing up now
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And it is for all of those reasons you describe that I said what I said above and why I think that M would be at the top of my list in terms of the person I'd like to see him with if not Storm.
But Storm will always be at the top of that list for me, with M being second.
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Also worth noting that the girl who plays Storm in the X-Men movies(Alexandra Shipp) is a BIG BIG BIG BIG supporter of T'Challa / Storm and has essentially put it out there that she'd do anything to make them be a thing in the MCU and for that movie to happen. That's up to Fox and DISNEYMARVEL of course if they wanted to come to some kind of agreement if [B]ever[/B]. But yeah she's made it very clear that she wants that more than anything and wants to find a way to make it happen. So it's a very interesting situation to be honest.
But yes, if T'Challa wasn't with Storm, or if they are just going to refuse to fully commit the two together (for the reasons I mentioned the past few pages), I'd definitely say M.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3197940][B]I think Tchalla should be a healthy mix of Priests and Hudlin's versions. He is charismatic like Hudlins version, but has a air of mysteriousness about him like Priest, where people, despite him being so friendly with them, feel like he is keeping them at a distance, like he knows something they don't.
Tchalla should be confident, borderline arrogant, but have reason for it. I think that is how Tchalla should be. It gives him plenty of people to bounce off of. As for LI, I mean there are some candidate's out there but personally o think getting home a an Avengers team as a leader or behind the scenes lead is more important. Hell marvel animation is going to do a BP centric season, Yet the comics continue to drag their feet. It's a wasted opportunity and it's stupid that the comics are treating Tchalla like they are, especially when he is blowing up now
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T'CHalla theoretically could join an Avengers team now... but honestly I think I'd rather wait for when an A list Avengers team forms and have him join that.
The current Avengers team, no offense, all seem kinda like filler. No offense to Waid, who is a great writer, but his books just don't seem Avengery enough. They don't seem epic or important, in contrast to Bendis or HIckman. BP joining the Avengters now would be the equivalent of him joining the Justice League detroit. I'd rather he join when Cap and Iron Man and THor all return so that he's more associated with the big iconic characters. I just feelas though a big Avengers wave is about to crash, and I'd rather BP catch that wave rather than getting in the water while the tide is low.
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[QUOTE=Majesty;3197952]There was actually a time in the comics where I felt that Tigra and T'Challa would have been good together. Obviously not now though cause I think they have her pretty locked in with Hank by this point. But years ago, there was a time where I thought they'd be really good together. That'd be near impossible to do now.
As far as anyone else goes. Star Lord and Gamora are 'kinda' happening in the movies, but not in the comics, similar to how Hulk and Widow never crossed over into the comics and [B](THOR RAGNAROK SPOILERS) [/B]so there's that too.
The main thing about Sue and Reed is that they may stand the test of time, but only because the narrative makes it that way. Any other woman would have left Reed by now, but Sue is kind of suehorned in to the "faithful wife" role and not that it's a bad thing, but it's the "Faithful wife even though she is a doormat to her husband" role essentially. The girl that is always wanting the attention she doesn't get at home and always entertains cheating(not leaving) but never gives into it.. the kind of woman that's entire storyarc with other men is "you treat me better than reed" and the conclusion is always "If I wasn't with Reed...I would.." which in my opinion shows great commitment and loyalty. But Reed's never at risk of losing it, which is why he is inconsistent with his attention.
It would probably shake up the Marvel world to have Sue leave Reed because of his negligence and just honestly having enough of it. You could tell a very interesting story about their divorce as well, and you can use the message of that to reach kids that may be dealing with that at home, especially those that blame themselves for it. Sue can still love Reed very much. But for all the things he has to do and sacrifice to be "THE" Reed Richards... is why it can't work out between himself and Sue.
Those kind of stories with the message at the end, especially considering that they would remain close friends and obviously do right by their children shows a different side and a different story altogether that I don't think Marvel really has tackled with any kind of consistent seriousness. Doing it with a character such as Sue Storm and Reed Richards would not only shake up the comic world but it would get people talking about the Fantastic Four again.
I think that they as a whole need something like that kind of shake up. Not JUST to get people talking, but to actually tell a cohesive and deep story that some people and children can also relate to. Which is the magic of stories like that when done correctly.
So if they did that with Sue Storm and Reed for THOSE reasons and pulled it off right, I'd be all for it.
If they did it for shock value... then I'd have an issue with it.
AS far as Sue Storm and Black Panther go. It could work, T'Challa is very devoted to Wakanda, and at times has chosen Wakanda over his friends, but he's also very devoted when it comes to who has his heart, as his relationship with Storm has proven. So it seems to me like he'd be able to balance both duty as well as paying the kind of attention to Sue that she deserves.
The main necessity that would come from this is that T'Challa WOULD need to appear in other comics outside of his own, being with Sue he isn't keeping her solely in Wakanda, and he isn't just going to stay in Wakanda while she goes abroad doing 'heroic' things going back and forth to New York to help raise the children with Reed.
So there'd have to be a situation where T'Challa was able to be in New York more often than usual and things can branch out into other aspects.
But for those reasons I don't trust MARVEL with that kind of delicate storytelling. Which is why I always preferred T'Challa or Tigra if not Storm. Because they are "easier" stories to tell, and the more complicated a story is, or the more effort you'd have to put into it to show it the respect it deserves, the less faith I have in MARVEL as of late to get it right.
But really.. if you wanted to ask me who I really would want to see T'Challa with if it wasn't Storm... my honest answer would have to be..
if I was being funny and comedic, Namora =P
But if I was being serious.. and actually felt like something special could be built on top of it.. I'd have to say M... Ms. Monet St. Croix herself
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She'd be my pic outside of Storm. Though she's going through this whole "I'm possessed and have this hunger" storyline and Sabretooth is kind of her comrade and stuff which means Marvel may be trying to push it in that direction eventually.
If you asked me what character I'd want to see T'Challa with outside of Storm.. I'd say M would be at or near the top of that list. Mainly because I think of T'Challa's personality as well as M's and think that they'd play off each other rather well.. more importantly there's room for growth because of those characteristics they have in order for that relationship to maintain and start. So that'd be at or near the top of my list for the girl I'd want to see T'Challa with outside of Storm and I think a great story could be done with the both of them.
Would I trust MARVEL to do it right? Probably not.
And it is for all of those reasons you describe that I said what I said above and why I think that M would be at the top of my list in terms of the person I'd like to see him with if not Storm.[/QUOTE]
Namora would be pretty damn funny.
But if the idea is to get him a love interest that nets him his own book, it would likely have to be a female that's actually in another book. Otherwise it's just a relationship in the BP book and there's no net gain in this regard.
THere's obviously Storm, who he's presently dating. That gets him in the solo book and potentiallly any X book she appears in (though historically X books have used BP pretty sparcely).
Captain Marvel has her own book, so a relationship there would be beneficial as far as exposure goes. Double bonus of Carol having a movie, so it would have the potential of going on the big screen too.
And I guess he could date one of the Inhumans too. Medusa would be kinda cool, but also kinda messed up given Black Bolt and BP were partners in crime not too long ago.
Hmmm... can't think of too many good Avengers options off the top of my head.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3197965]Namora would be pretty damn funny.
But if the idea is to get him a love interest that nets him his own book, it would likely have to be a female that's actually in another book. Otherwise it's just a relationship in the BP book and there's no net gain in this regard.
THere's obviously Storm, who he's presently dating. That gets him in the solo book and potentiallly any X book she appears in (though historically X books have used BP pretty sparcely).
Captain Marvel has her own book, so a relationship there would be beneficial as far as exposure goes. Double bonus of Carol having a movie, so it would have the potential of going on the big screen too.
And I guess he could date one of the Inhumans too. Medusa would be kinda cool, but also kinda messed up given Black Bolt and BP were partners in crime not too long ago.
Hmmm... can't think of too many good Avengers options off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]
pretty much why I'd like to see him and M. She may not have her own book but she's a presence in the X books and it's a relationship that would be beneficial to both characters and has the potential to be written well, extremely well actually.
As far as Carol went, I don't know why I don't see that working in my head.
And yes Namora would be pretty darn funny to see. Question is if it could be written well after the laughter wore off :P
But yeah, my top 3 would be
1. Storm
2. M
3. The others I've mentioned(Tigra, Namora, Sue, etc)
4. Carol
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3197940][B]I think Tchalla should be a healthy mix of Priests and Hudlin's versions. He is charismatic like Hudlins version, but has a air of mysteriousness about him like Priest, where people, despite him being so friendly with them, feel like he is keeping them at a distance, like he knows something they don't.
Tchalla should be confident, borderline arrogant, but have reason for it. I think that is how Tchalla should be. It gives him plenty of people to bounce off of. As for LI, I mean there are some candidate's out there but personally o think getting home a an Avengers team as a leader or behind the scenes lead is more important. Hell marvel animation is going to do a BP centric season, Yet the comics continue to drag their feet. It's a wasted opportunity and it's stupid that the comics are treating Tchalla like they are, especially when he is blowing up now
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Milquetoast T'Challa is a lot more "humanised" and "relatable" to some writers and readers.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3197940][B]I think Tchalla should be a healthy mix of Priests and Hudlin's versions. He is charismatic like Hudlins version, but has a air of mysteriousness about him like Priest, where people, despite him being so friendly with them, feel like he is keeping them at a distance, like he knows something they don't.
Tchalla should be confident, borderline arrogant, but have reason for it. I think that is how Tchalla should be. It gives him plenty of people to bounce off of. As for LI, I mean there are some candidate's out there but personally o think getting home a an Avengers team as a leader or behind the scenes lead is more important. Hell marvel animation is going to do a BP centric season, Yet the comics continue to drag their feet. It's a wasted opportunity and it's stupid that the comics are treating Tchalla like they are, especially when he is blowing up now
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I very much agree with this post. This feels like it should be a defining trait. He should be a panther in that sense. Something about his demeanor should relax people, almost like a panther cub in a sense. But like a stalking panther, they should always feel like he's assessing them and envisioning ways to subdue them.
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[QUOTE=Majesty;3197970]pretty much why I'd like to see him and M. She may not have her own book but she's a presence in the X books and it's a relationship that would be beneficial to both characters and has the potential to be written well, extremely well actually.
As far as Carol went, I don't know why I don't see that working in my head.
And yes Namora would be pretty darn funny to see. Question is if it could be written well after the laughter wore off :P
But yeah, my top 3 would be
1. Storm
2. M
3. The others I've mentioned(Tigra, Namora, Sue, etc)
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[B]M seems interesting, but I could see the same Issue with Storm. She is a mutant and therefore x politics could come into play and ruin it. But otherwise she Seems like someone that could actually play pretty well off of T'Challa given she is a genius (something to contribute)
and her powerset compliments his. Plus her powerset isn't too big that you couldn't tell more grounded stories that would be harder to do with Storm. But again x office (or Maybe because Monet isn't as well known as Storm they would leave her alone :shrug: )
Namora would be for fuckery to Namor and Carol I have jokingly seriously said they should just to make fans go crazy. Personally if I were writing it, I would have huge sexual tension between Carol and Tchalla, mainly with Tchalla dropping game on her and her trying to figure out if he is just getting in her head or being serious, and have them play off each other that way. They may or may not get together, but there would be alot of tension and flirting on both sides [/B]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3197980]Milquetoast T'Challa is a lot more "humanised" and "relatable" to some writers and readers.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yep, hopefully Evans can be the first since SW to break away from that. He seems the best candidate at the moment who is actually writing a BP solo. Would love to see Redjacks version too since by his own words is different still from the animation version (Which he has done a damn good job on)[/B]
[QUOTE=BBeeryan;3198016]I very much agree with this post. This feels like it should be a defining trait. He should be a panther in that sense. Something about his demeanor should relax people, almost like a panther cub in a sense. But like a stalking panther, they should always feel like he's assessing them and envisioning ways to subdue them.[/QUOTE]
[B] Exactly, it should be a feeling of "I feel like I have known him my entire life and can completely let my guard down...
But why do I get this gnawing feeling that is EXACTLY what he wants me to do?"
Priest Said it best, and Hudlin followed on it perfectly, T'Challas greatest super power is getting people to underestimate him. That is his true power
But Priest has Ross sum it up perfectly
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My personal feeling is that each hero, male or female, should stand on their own and be unique. While i thought it was a fun choice to make Storm and T'Challa a couple at the time and was very much on their team in terms of hoping the marriage would go, marrying them diluted BOTH their stories.
Anything like a realistic depiction of that union would had them constantly torn apart by their divided loyalties. Storm is a MUTANT above all things and that would include T'Challa. The Black Panther is the ruler and thus the servant of Wakanda above e all other things. The moment those two drives came into conflict they would have to split because, regardless of the wishes of the two at the center, the "families" would never be able to actually mesh. And neither would turn their back on their family in favor of each other and that's where their marriage would ALWAYS lead.
My personal pref is for each central figure to have their own adventures, their own "Gotham City," their own adventures and their own friends and lovers that re COMPLETELY separate from anything that happens when they overlap into some other book.
Many of you have pointed out how impossible it is to navigate the X-Books unless your title is part of that set (and even then).
If i were writing the book I would make storm that lost love that always has a way into his heart but she would not be the one who ends up with the whole thing. That would be someone new and unexpected who would challenge and support him at the same time.
Also, both Storm and T'Challa are alphas. Both, in theory, are the sole focus of a book that bears their name. Why would I diminish storm by putting her in his shadow? why would I diminish him by putting him in hers?
Storm needs her OWN stuff, her own toys , her own rogues, her OWN path, her OWN loves and hates and so does T'Challa.
That's my opinion. Mileage varies (and that's okay. =))
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[B]Of course Redjack with the Truth bomb drop.
Ultimately that's what I feel like is the Issue with BP and Storm. I mean, ot can work. But it would probably have to be a separate title a BP and Storm specific title while their solo's are based on them specifically with a guest appearance here and there from the other. I mean, can it work so that they can be together and both be apart of each other's world's? Honestly I think it can but it requires the right mindset to do it right and not half ass it. It was never explored and x office didn't want to play ball so we never got a whole "Well it just couldn't work out" because they never tried or intended to try in the first place.
I will say i am all for Tchalla getting a Wakandan LI (Nakia Nyong'o anyone?) But I do think it's okay of he were to go and have romantic encounters with heroes outside his book. If they became a couple I think it also depends on WHO the character is.
For instance, Hudlin said if Storm wasn't a available he would of paired him up with spectrum (even in his story he had done Wakandans make a comment that maybe Tchalla made a mistake by not choosing her) if he did pick her, chances are, they would still be married to this day because she doesn't have a solo or a big enough following to have an ongoing, so her fans would be glad she was showing up again, so it can work, it just depends on what franchise your merging into.
Majesty said personally the second choice they would of picked would of been Monet St Croix. I think she would fit pretty snug into the BP mythos as they seem like the would match and compliment each other on a powerset which can make a difference.
I don't know much about her though so I couldn't say for sure, but she may not be as popular and it could potentially mean that there would e less push back if she became apart of the Mythos (much like Coates has Eden in the mythos and x office doesn't care) but it could still open the door to the x franchise (for better or worse) but I think it's just fun to see Characters get to Branch out of their solo's from time to time and dating another hero (or villain if one is feeling especially adventurous) can be a potentially easy way to do so if they aren't on a team book. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3198207][B] I mean, can it work so that they can be together and both be apart of each other's world's? Honestly I think it can but it requires the right mindset to do it right and not half ass it.[/b] [/QUOTE]
This is why I wrote this about T'Challa and Storm's relationship now.
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It's because of these points, in particular what was specifically written when they got back together. That the entire "could they commit/understand one another's commitments to this or that" angle I think is no longer a problem.
Those specific things that RedJack talked about are the precise reasons why they were given the arc they were just given. In order to rectify those kind of worries.
Like I said, If T'Challa and Storm got back together as in fully committed back together(yes marriage) they likely aren't breaking up again. Those are the main reasons why, and it would take a pretty crap agenda driven writer to jump in and try to intentionally undo all of that.
But yes, those worries are no longer a problem, because the arc T'Challa and Storm essentially just went through together, rectified all of that.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3198207][b]Majesty said personally the second choice they would of picked would of been Monet St Croix. I think she would fit pretty snug into the BP mythos as they seem like the would match and compliment each other on a powerset which can make a difference.[/b][/quote]
Yes, I truly do think so. I also think that Monet St. Croix would be the perfect choice in Marvel's eyes if they decided to go in that direction with T'Challa. Because of her place as a character and how they could fit into each other's stories and situations.
Like I said, Storm is at the top of that list, but if Marvel was still on that "Well we can't with Storm.... cause she's "too important" of a character to use that kind of influence to get Black Panther further into the mainstream comic" IE the problems I ranted about earlier in the thread :P That M would be the next logical choice. She isn't Storm level, but she's an important enough character, and there's enough room to work with the both of them and why their relationship works for the both of them and it would allow T'Challa to be in other X-Stories as well even if they didn't want to push him to the front of the line in some other mainstream stories or teams(such as as a leader), then Monet is a way that Marvel would be able to have it's cake and eat it too, while also NOT keeping T'Challa relegated and boxed into solely his solo series.
But yeah, Storm would be the 1st choice(especially after the reason I linked above), and M would be the 2nd. :)
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[B]If there is one thing I have learned, it's never underestimate what an x writer or aspiring nx writer will do to push their agenda..[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3198268][B]If there is one thing I have learned, it's never underestimate what an x writer or aspiring nx writer will do to push their agenda..[/B][/QUOTE]
Welcome to my world
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[QUOTE=Redjack;3198180]My personal feeling is that each hero, male or female, should stand on their own and be unique. While i thought it was a fun choice to make Storm and T'Challa a couple at the time and was very much on their team in terms of hoping the marriage would go, marrying them diluted BOTH their stories.
Anything like a realistic depiction of that union would had them constantly torn apart by their divided loyalties. Storm is a MUTANT above all things and that would include T'Challa. The Black Panther is the ruler and thus the servant of Wakanda above e all other things. The moment those two drives came into conflict they would have to split because, regardless of the wishes of the two at the center, the "families" would never be able to actually mesh. And neither would turn their back on their family in favor of each other and that's where their marriage would ALWAYS lead.
My personal pref is for each central figure to have their own adventures, their own "Gotham City," their own adventures and their own friends and lovers that re COMPLETELY separate from anything that happens when they overlap into some other book.
Many of you have pointed out how impossible it is to navigate the X-Books unless your title is part of that set (and even then).
If i were writing the book I would make storm that lost love that always has a way into his heart but she would not be the one who ends up with the whole thing. That would be someone new and unexpected who would challenge and support him at the same time.
Also, both Storm and T'Challa are alphas. Both, in theory, are the sole focus of a book that bears their name. Why would I diminish storm by putting her in his shadow? why would I diminish him by putting him in hers?
Storm needs her OWN stuff, her own toys , her own rogues, her OWN path, her OWN loves and hates and so does T'Challa.
That's my opinion. Mileage varies (and that's okay. =))[/QUOTE]
Totally valid. That was my thing as well. I didn't hate the marriage and certainly don't hate Storm, but I figured from the beginning that mixing with an outside family of books like this is gonna cause problems.
It's the same reason I'm even hesitant when people suggest Monica Rambeau as a replacement love interest. Yeah it'd be interesting in theory but then your'e screwed as soon as whoever wants to use Monica primarily in an Avengers series or something wants to do in a different direction.
Come to think of it, I can't think of very many cross-book romances in comics that ever actually worked out. Even the oft-cited Superman and Wonder Woman pairing imploded as soon as DC decided they wanted the classic Clark and Lois marriage back.
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[QUOTE=Holt;3198475]Totally valid. That was my thing as well. I didn't hate the marriage and certainly don't hate Storm, but I figured from the beginning that mixing with an outside family of books like this is gonna cause problems.
It's the same reason I'm even hesitant when people suggest Monica Rambeau as a replacement love interest. Yeah it'd be interesting in theory but then your'e screwed as soon as whoever wants to use Monica primarily in an Avengers series or something wants to do in a different direction.
Come to think of it, I can't think of very many cross-book romances in comics that ever actually worked out. Even the oft-cited Superman and Wonder Woman pairing imploded as soon as DC decided they wanted the classic Clark and Lois marriage back.[/QUOTE]
Cross comic relation ships are few and far between. I suppose Luke and Jessica sort of count. And that's an issue for them both on the comic and tv side of things.
But yeah, it's tough to do long term and rare. Bends should really pat himself on the back for being able to pull it off.