[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3796684]EMH is my first or second favorite T'challa (movie version is in contention).
EMH T'challa is why I became a T'challa fanboy and started reading BP comics.[/QUOTE]
Same here :).
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3796684]EMH is my first or second favorite T'challa (movie version is in contention).
EMH T'challa is why I became a T'challa fanboy and started reading BP comics.[/QUOTE]
Same here :).
[QUOTE=Redjack;3796290]I câme up up with what I call MOORE'S LAW decades ago. Basically, a new writer on a franchise must consider everything that has happened previously to have actually happened (unless Editorial is bringing you in for a hard reboot/rework). No matter what your plans are, going forward, you can't break the toys and stories people already love.[/QUOTE]
Far too many years ago, I interviewed Walt Simonson online for an old NEW GODS website. And he said something I've taken to heart all this time:
[QUOTE]Continuity isn't the starting point for a story; it's one of the final considerations. I don't mean I throw out continuity on a whim. I don't. I don't think I've EVER deliberately thrown out old continuity although I'm sure I've screwed it up now and again accidently. And I've had some of my continuity discarded by other writers. But the STORY, its characters, its plot, its conflicts--these are the essential building blocks of good comics for me. Continuity is a useful tool in that building but it is not the essence of a good story. Or to paraphrase a P.D.James' character, [B]"Continuity is a good servant but a poor master."[/B][/QUOTE]
Revealed at SDCC.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiaklJBUcAAHv8U.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Diai8cXUwAA5iqy.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Dboi654;3796379]They need to employ the fight choreographers and stunt coordinators from "Into the Badlands" for the sequel in terms of the action.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if its possible that Coogler's action scene style can't be fully appreciated if you apply the quick cutting method. I really think part of the problem may have been Marvel telling him to shorten the fights.
[QUOTE]Michael B. Jordan: As realistic as he can. I think one of Ryan’s strengths is that he always finds the real moments, even in the sci-fi or larger-than-life atmosphere and environment, so to apply when it comes to boxing, he wanted real hits. He wanted it to look like if it was a brawl, it was gonna be a brawl, you know? We really took our time with each punch; each punch represented a different line. So in a sense, we’re having a scene and dialogue within the fight. That was something that I found very interesting with that attention to detail. So for this one, [it’s a] different approach cuz there are a lot of weapons and you’re also using a lot of hand-to-hand combat and stuff like that, so there’s a lot more action, so to speak. Just trying to find the realness in the larger-than-life Marvel universe. I think that’s something he’s definitely striving for.
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[url]https://screenrant.com/black-panther-set-visit-michael-b-jordan-interview/[/url]
So either he just burned out on the final set pieces in BP (outside of Dora's vs. Killmonger and M'Baku delivering blows) or someone else just took over.
Either way you can't let the final fight be a letdown. I really feel like some of the criticism has caused people to overlook just how great the Waterfall fights were.
Quick IW/BP screen time thoughts.
1. Killmonger had 22 mins of screen time in BP. Thanos had 29 in IW (most in the movie). Its still impressive that despite less screen time that Killmonger is the best or not far behind Thanos in MCU villain rankings. That shows the care and the thought that went into crafting that character. I still think he should have got a few more mins with him on the throne.
2. Black Panther had 48 mins of screen time in his own movie. The only one lower than that was Thor in the 1st Thor film. I still think another 5 to 10 minutes of T'Challa before and after his "death" would have went a long way to stopping some of the hate the character gets.
I really really really hope they make the next BP film 2hrs 30 mins. Its an epic. Treat it like one in terms of run time. That way we get the wonderful supporting characters, but still get plenty of focus on the hero as well.
T'Challa only getting 3mins in IW was a joke. I know Captain America only got 6 mins, but still. He had at least had his moment. T'Challa needed to kill Black Dwarf. They were really selling it like T'Challa/Wakanda were going to be important outside of just being an outlet for Vision.
I know the Russos didn't want to step on Coogler's toes, but some of the lines and setup for Wakandans were laughable in IW. Tough for them cause I'm not sure they knew BP would be as big of a hit as was.
I'm hoping he gets a big moment or two in Avengers 4, but I'm doubtful.
[QUOTE=Holt;3796730]Revealed at SDCC.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiaklJBUcAAHv8U.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Diai8cXUwAA5iqy.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Both look great. We needed a Shuri bad.
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3796837]Quick IW/BP screen time thoughts.
1. Killmonger had 22 mins of screen time in BP. Thanos had 29 in IW (most in the movie). Its still impressive that despite less screen time that Killmonger is the best or not far behind Thanos in MCU villain rankings. That shows the care and the thought that went into crafting that character. I still think he should have got a few more mins with him on the throne.
2. Black Panther had 48 mins of screen time in his own movie. The only one lower than that was Thor in the 1st Thor film. I still think another 5 to 10 minutes of T'Challa before and after his "death" would have went a long way to stopping some of the hate the character gets.
I really really really hope they make the next BP film 2hrs 30 mins. Its an epic. Treat it like one in terms of run time. That way we get the wonderful supporting characters, but still get plenty of focus on the hero as well.
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The longer the movie, the less showings it gets. Hence the hesitation from studios to have super long movies. BP was already the longest solo movie in the MCU.
Two explanations for the "low" amount of minutes for BP. One, he "died" mid movie and disappeared for a chunk. And two, he already had set up in CW. And three, he had a killer supporting cast that a lot of other franchises don't have.
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3796837]Quick IW/BP screen time thoughts.
1. Killmonger had 22 mins of screen time in BP. Thanos had 29 in IW (most in the movie). Its still impressive that despite less screen time that Killmonger is the best or not far behind Thanos in MCU villain rankings. That shows the care and the thought that went into crafting that character. I still think he should have got a few more mins with him on the throne.
2. Black Panther had 48 mins of screen time in his own movie. The only one lower than that was Thor in the 1st Thor film. I still think another 5 to 10 minutes of T'Challa before and after his "death" would have went a long way to stopping some of the hate the character gets.
I really really really hope they make the next BP film 2hrs 30 mins. Its an epic. Treat it like one in terms of run time. That way we get the wonderful supporting characters, but still get plenty of focus on the hero as well.
T'Challa only getting 3mins in IW was a joke. I know Captain America only got 6 mins, but still. He had at least had his moment. T'Challa needed to kill Black Dwarf. They were really selling it like T'Challa/Wakanda were going to be important outside of just being an outlet for Vision.
I know the Russos didn't want to step on Coogler's toes, but some of the lines and setup for Wakandans were laughable in IW. Tough for them cause I'm not sure they knew BP would be as big of a hit as was.
[B]I'm hoping he gets a big moment or two in Avengers 4, but I'm doubtful[/B].[/QUOTE]
I have already anticipated the idea that he won't be in it and if he is, he won't amount to much to the whole story so it's best I keep my expectations low to avoid any dissapointment but I might be wrong.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;3796494]Now this is awesome!!!!!
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZtkRuW0AApDBt.jpg:large[/img]
BTW, this is the official cover.[/QUOTE]
[I]Beautiful! I want it now!
oh
and the comic book too!:cool:[/I]
[QUOTE=Tony Stark;3796361]Well said brother. Not only does this refer to T'Challa, but to all comic book characters. Don't piss off the ride or die fans. We will be the ones that will always love the character and follow what they are going through. This might sound corny, but some of the worst times in my life what keep me sane was reading Iron Man. I figure if Tony Stark could be with me for some of my worst days then I can do the same for him.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]Nobody on the Marvel Comics side of things can figure out how to effectively use one of the most viable characters they have.
Batman beats entire alien deathsquad. DC doesn't care that a few fans complain.
Batman beats Supes. DC doesn't bat an eye when a few fans complain.
Batman beats entire Justice League. DC yawns when a few fans complain.
DC put their faith in the power of Batman.
If only Marvel would put half of that behind Black Panther.
Most dangerous man in the MU gets treated like Snagglepuss.
[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Dboi654;3796969]I have already anticipated the idea that he won't be in it and if he is, he won't amount to much to the whole story so it's best I keep my expectations low to avoid any dissapointment but I might be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Word is they are filming Avengers 4 reshoots this week or next.
Lets hope Boseman is involved..
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3797014][COLOR="#000080"]Nobody on the Marvel Comics side of things can figure out how to effectively use one of the most viable characters they have.
Batman beats entire alien deathsquad. DC doesn't care that a few fans complain.
Batman beats Supes. DC doesn't bat an eye when a few fans complain.
Batman beats entire Justice League. DC yawns when a few fans complain.
DC put their faith in the power of Batman.
If only Marvel would put half of that behind Black Panther.
Most dangerous man in the MU gets treated like Snagglepuss.
[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
You can't necessarily expect BP to get the same level of push Batman has YET. Batman has been the number 2 hero in the entire industry for decades. T'Challa only has a few months to legitimately claim he's one of the top guys at marvel.
Give it a few years, and I think the landscape will look different. All that stuff you mentioned Batman did, he didn't do in the last few months.
Wakanda...
10,000 years worth of unconquerable stories...
Multiple tribal drama to fulfill pages for a millennia...
Super heroes and super villains alike have graced these hallowed halls but nothing could prepare it's citizens for this...
Earthquake like tremors shook the city structures as the vibranium dampers absorbed and steadied the swaying structures...
Security around the perimeter had been on high alert as military protocols prepared for the worst...
Johannesburg... Accra... Lagos... Mombasa... Nearly every major city on the African continent had been hit and hit hard...
Devastation worse than any colonizer could ever imagine was left in it's wake...
What was it and what did it want...
King T'challa: "Report!"
General Okoye: "Africa is in flames... Whatever it is has set a fiery perimeter around the central heart of Africa trapping every living soul inland!"
Princess Shuri: "Brother... It's headed right for us!"
King T'challa: "Raise the force field!"
The thumping sounds of destiny grew ever louder as silence enveloped Wakanda in awaited anticipation...
Warriors gathered at the front lines armed to the teeth eyes focused on distant mountains in the horizon...
A shadowy giant of a creature appeared to dwarf the mountain range growing larger and closer with each plodding step...
The creature paused, looked around at the city of Wakanda and then...
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0T3VwHzk8[/url]
Princess Shuri: "Brother, you may want to modify that Galactus contingency plan just a tad bit!"
King T'challa: "DAYUM!!!"
YEAH, Godzilla is back BEYOTCHES!!! :cool:
[url]https://www.cbr.com/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-debuts-first-banner/[/url]
See Godzilla eat Wakanda in...
Black Panther: King T'challa vs The King of The Monsters!!!
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3797014][COLOR="#000080"]Nobody on the Marvel Comics side of things can figure out how to effectively use one of the most viable characters they have.
Batman beats entire alien deathsquad. DC doesn't care that a few fans complain.
Batman beats Supes. DC doesn't bat an eye when a few fans complain.
Batman beats entire Justice League. DC yawns when a few fans complain.
DC put their faith in the power of Batman.
If only Marvel would put half of that behind Black Panther.
Most dangerous man in the MU gets treated like Snagglepuss.
[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Look at the **** ass job they did with Iron Man.
He is the biggest character in the MCU and his comics have been straight GARBAGE
Their response to Carol being Marvel's "wonder woman" was to have her drawn like a teenage boy, turn into an ******* gestapo, and punch a hole in Starks chests with no repercussions
CA: CW came out two years ago. Marvel has been on the clock with T'challa for over 2 years now. They are going to have a stretch where T'challa has shown up in 4 BILLION dollar movies in a row. The iron is not going to get any hotter. Gotta strike now man. Gotta hurt creator feelings if you have to.
[QUOTE=Dboi654;3796494]Now this is awesome!!!!!
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZtkRuW0AApDBt.jpg:large[/img]
BTW, this is the official cover.[/QUOTE]
[B]If only people would take that habit BP is sporting and out in in the actual pages instead of Just the covers lol[/B]