[B]Coates had the chance to do something good, and even talked as though it was different this time.. but surprise surprise same song and dance[/B]
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[B]Coates had the chance to do something good, and even talked as though it was different this time.. but surprise surprise same song and dance[/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3540263][B]Coates had the chance to do something good, and even talked as though it was different this time.. but surprise surprise same song and dance[/B][/QUOTE]
One can only hope that he’ll get dragged for this on social media more than he did for the Chris Columbus crap so that people can finally see how toxic he is for the franchise. But of course you’ll always have idiots like the fanbros show caping for him.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3540259][B]There's no point in going over this with you again. It will take too much typing that o don't feel like doing. But the short answer. Your check list has happened to other MCU heroes multiple times, and no one complains. This is like the whole Tchalla is a Mary Sue argument. But Cooglers Tchalla is light years above coates [/B][/QUOTE]
What? That check list has never, I repeat, NEVER happened in an origin movie where the audience hasn't had a chance to even give a damn about the protagonist yet. Until now. Are you scared that a fully realized T'Challa would come off as a Mary sue? Well he was vanilla and vulnerable and that didn't make him compelling at all. Coogler's T'Challa is trash and embarrassing. Coates is the lesser of two evils.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3540263][B]Coates had the chance to do something good, and even talked as though it was different this time.. but surprise surprise same song and dance[/B][/QUOTE]
You got all that based on that solicit?
[QUOTE=Pulp Fiction;3540708]What? That check list has never, I repeat, NEVER happened in an origin movie where the audience hasn't had a chance to even give a damn about the protagonist yet. Until now. Are you scared that a fully realized T'Challa would come off as a Mary sue? Well he was vanilla and vulnerable and that didn't make him compelling at all. Coogler's T'Challa is trash and embarrassing. [B]Coates is the lesser of two evils[/B].[/QUOTE]
[B]LOL now your just trolling for sure[/B]
[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3540735]You got all that based on that solicit?[/QUOTE]
[B]given his track record, and the solicit he wakes up on a strange world with amnesia, there are mines and a rebellion brewing.. hmm maybe Coates has changed his tune? Likely not. Writers don't usually go from making the protagonist need his hand held for everything by his cast and giving away feats, to suddenly having feats upon feats, like a light switch in their head[/B]
[QUOTE=Hypestyle;3539311]Uhhhh... So... when it comes to the Wakandan planet, there's um...[B][U] Vibranium-mining slavery[/U][/B]?
oh, no........... :([/QUOTE]
Yep, Yep, Yep...well on the bright side we finally get that Vibranium in space story.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3540756][B]LOL now your just trolling for sure[/B][/QUOTE]
Nah, this kind of dismissive post ain't gonna cut it fam. I find it ironic that you're championing Coogler's cardboard T'Challa and condemning coates. The movie version is far more egregious. Its actually hilarious.
[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3540735]You got all that based on that solicit?[/QUOTE]
I remember one solicit stated Wakanda had become a republic back in season one.
Not that inaccurate solicits are anything new, but at times I wonder if someone isn't intentionally trying to rile people up a bit.
[QUOTE=XPac;3540889]I remember one solicit stated Wakanda had become a republic back in season one.
Not that inaccurate solicits are anything new, but at times I wonder if someone isn't intentionally trying to rile people up a bit.[/QUOTE]
It is really understandable.
Some copy guy is given a plot summary of a multipart story and has to break that down into an exciting paragraph.
Mistakes are gonna be made, even leaving aside that typical exaggerating that comics always do in solicits.
But you can't say stuff like "Captain America faces Hydra yet again and there's nothing different about it at all!"
[QUOTE=Pulp Fiction;3540854]Nah, this kind of dismissive post ain't gonna cut it fam. I find it ironic that you're championing Coogler's cardboard T'Challa and condemning coates. The movie version is far more egregious. Its actually hilarious.[/QUOTE]
[B]The fact your saying Coates is the lesser of two evils, when the amount of f*ckery Coates has done, compared to genius work Coogler has done... THAT is hilarious[/B]
[B] courtesy of Realdealholy[/B]
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;3540815]Whoa! :eek:
[url]https://twitter.com/gma/status/976144152193830914[/url]
[IMG]https://s18.postimg.org/cwgtmajbr/IMG_2946.jpg?dl=1[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pulp Fiction;3540708]What? [B]That check list has never, I repeat, NEVER happened in an origin movie where the audience hasn't had a chance to even give a damn about the protagonist yet.[/B] Until now. Are you scared that a fully realized T'Challa would come off as a Mary sue? Well he was vanilla and vulnerable and that didn't make him compelling at all. Coogler's T'Challa is trash and embarrassing. Coates is the lesser of two evils.[/QUOTE]
Since T'Challa appeared in Civil War first, none of that happened before the audience gave a damn about him since Civil War is where interest in T'Challa was born.
The checklist did happen to Tony and Thor in their debut movies though.
[QUOTE=Agent Z;3540996]Since T'Challa appeared in Civil War first, none of that happened before the audience gave a damn about him since Civil War is where interest in T'Challa was born.
The checklist did happen to Tony and Thor in their debut movies though.[/QUOTE]
Him appearing in civil war and being a standout in that movie dampened the blow of being a plot device in killmonger the movie but it could have been much worse if it was the first time seeing T'Challa and for or a lot of people who don't watch every marvel movie it actually was the first time seeing him.
I don't remember what happened in thor but it never happened to Tony in ironman 1. Tony wasn't spending the majority of his movie listening to his supporting cast give speeches. They instead built up ironman as a person and he had excellent dialogue. Ironman wasn't given underwhelming action setpieces compared to his supporting cast.
The severity of the ass beating T'Challa received in killmonger the movie, is usually reserved for sequels. What Coogler did was put the cart before the horse. Imagine if bane broke batman in the very first ever batman movie. Its an idiotic move if you're looking to build a franchise off the character.
I guarantee you they will not pull that nonsense with captain marvel.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3540986][B] courtesy of Realdealholy[/B][/QUOTE]
This is so gimped. The movie is called black panther as well. If they showed the whole list, "T'Challa" would probably be 6th