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Merger is way beyond Feige's pay grade too. Disney when over his hard and fired Gunn. Storm is a dark skin black woman just like Lupita Nyong'o. Fox put two light skin women as Storm. this does not mean Disney will mess this up too. Lupita Nyong'o is not part Mexican. She was just born there. Bob Iger was the one who said he wanted a Black Panther
[QUOTE=XPac;3817809]If they can turn Bucky into White Wolf, then I suppose there's no reason they can't turn Nakia into Storm.[/QUOTE]
[B]Lol Dude it was a joke. Ucky made sense because he was introduced to the world as the Winter soldier and a wanted terrorists assassin.by the end of CW that wss still the case. They ain't gonna keep his name Winter soldier and make him good. So White wolf is born. Easy transition. Nakia wouldn't be Storm that would be completely pointless and just adding her just to add her. Nakia nyongo is going to stay. Tchalla also ain't the type to switch chicks on the fly. Hence how much he swagged on Nakia to keep her by his side and also to do what she loves.
LOL BoG! That's gold!
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3818013][B]Lol Dude it was a joke. Ucky made sense because he was introduced to the world as the Winter soldier and a wanted terrorists assassin.by the end of CW that wss still the case. They ain't gonna keep his name Winter soldier and make him good. So White wolf is born. Easy transition. Nakia wouldn't be Storm that would be completely pointless and just adding her just to add her. Nakia nyongo is going to stay. Tchalla also ain't the type to switch chicks on the fly. Hence how much he swagged on Nakia to keep her by his side and also to do what she loves.
LOL BoG! That's gold!
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Oh, I know it was s joke. But the reason it's funny is because there's a chance it could happen.
Between Bucky becoming White Wolf, Jarvis becoming Vision and Talbot becoming Graviton, this stuff can happen in the MCU.
Bear in mind, that's not what I think will happen. But ya never know.
[QUOTE=XPac;3817648]It's really not that hard to make up a scenario where T'Challa and Storm met in their youth IF the movie decides they have history together. It's not like anything implies he's NEVER left Wakanda.
And of course, if they decide not to go that route, it's all moot anyways. Pairing Storm with T'Challa is by no means a given or an obligation... it's merely an available option now down the road.[/QUOTE]
great points and agreed.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3817780]- Avengers 4 or Eternals
- Something weird and comicy happens
- Wave goes through the earth
end movie
[B]first credit scene... [/B]
- X genes are activated
- we see a kids eyes turn red
- someone turns blue with a tail
- old white dude goes "i can hear them all" while holding his head.
- X-men logo pops up. crowd goes wild
[B]end credit scene[/B]
- people expecting BP tease
- we are in Wakanda
- we are in the royal bed
- t'challa layin in Nakia for some post coitus pillow talk
- Lupita says something about feeling a little different today
- She looks up at the camera, electricity sparks through her eyes
PLOT TWIST, NAKIA IS NOW STORM
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no no no and no. nakia is not will not cannot be storm.
[QUOTE]lol @ people who think Logan or Days of Future Past aren't the best Marvel based films of the last decade
People have already well and truly covered why the merger sucks big time, and, yeah, Fox's X-Men movies were definitely wildly inconsistent- but their highs were also better than anything the MCU's ever put out, honestly.
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3817850]Ah, I can see it now. Coogler & Coates sit down for lunch:
TNC: Ryan, my brother! Congratulations on the movie! You brought my vision to life!
RC: Thanks, Ta-Nehisi, but I actually took more from McGregor, & Hud-.
TNC: The beads! The force push! The bird-like planes!
RC: Weren't they created by Bri-
TNC: Everybody loved it! And you even doubled down by keeping that misogynistic wannabe offscreen for most of the movie. Who needs kings, anyway?
RC: Uh, that's not why I...
TNC: Ya gotta go farther next time. Have the Dora revolt because every man in Wakanda is a rapist! Make Shuri into a sorceress with whatever powers we need! And then we can turn Nakia into a skinny Eartha Kitt-looking bitch and replace her with Storm!
RC: Actually, I wanted to do more with Nak-
TNC: We could call it STORM & THE BLACK PANTHER: THE GODDESS RISES. We'll make even [B]more[/B] money. Everybody knows the fans don't want to see Panther being "awesome, awesome, awesome" like that Priest guy wrote. What'd he know about writing comics, anyway?
RC: Check, please![/QUOTE]
Beautiful post.
personally i never liked the marriage. by putting them together you undercut your ability to bring out new characters and unique rogues galleries for both.
If it were up to me, Storm would have her OWN book with her OWN secondary characters and villains and her OWN, unique, original love interest(s) that had nothing to do with anyone but her. Same with the Panther.
By combining them you cut your story potential in half.
That's just me.
I 100% agree with [B]Redjack [/B]i love both characters but when put together they undercut each other's potential to tell a good story that respect both characters.
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818200]personally i never liked the marriage. by putting them together you undercut your ability to bring out new characters and unique rogues galleries for both.
If it were up to me, Storm would have her OWN book with her OWN secondary characters and villains and her OWN, unique, original love interest(s) that had nothing to do with anyone but her. Same with the Panther.
By combining them you cut your story potential in half.
That's just me.[/QUOTE]
Speak the truth! And nothing but the truth!
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818200]personally i never liked the marriage. by putting them together you undercut your ability to bring out new characters and unique rogues galleries for both.
If it were up to me, Storm would have her OWN book with her OWN secondary characters and villains and her OWN, unique, original love interest(s) that had nothing to do with anyone but her. Same with the Panther.
By combining them you cut your story potential in half.
That's just me.[/QUOTE]
She can still theoretically have most of that if she gets her own book (minus the original love interest part if she's married). Luke Cage and Jessica Jones for example, can still tell relatively separate stories in their own solo books even though there is cross over.
But until Storm gets her own book, it's sort of wishful thinking anyways. Hopefully they do give her another shot. Until them, I'm honestly good seeing her in X-Men and Black Panther and any other book that wants to use her.
All that just to take an unreasonable chance to blow 1.3 billion dollars on a failed follow up sequel movie!
Disney just put up 71 billion dollars for the Fox merger only to throw extra cash away to make a ratchet black reality show of Black Panther 2???
This is what happens when you legalize marijuana... Everybody gets high and has the muncheez! :p
After all the reboots and cancelations of all things Black Panther you finally get a definitive moneymaker and you want to tinker with something that makes no financial sense whatsoever!
Princess Shuri as depicted by Letitia Wright is straight cash money all up in the Disney Store right next to Snow White, Frozen, Little Mermaid and them... What is Queen Nakia worth then using Lupita's likeness forever and a day!
Wakanda has it's own Trinity in Nakia, Okoye and Shuri... What Bast has put together let no man put asunder! :cool:
I would personally rather see a super spy Nakia spinoff where T'challa shows up and "ruins her mission" much like Storm did when he was in Hell's Kitchen playing Radioshack Daredevil!
The deep south.
Mosquitos everywhichawhere biting exposed flesh... Yeah, that deep south.
Nakia captured (or so they thought) sat in the back of the large extended cabin monster pickup truck with a noose around her neck.
Grand Wizard of The KKK: "Boys, we's finna have us a lynching!"
The various members of the KKK in standard issue Bed Bath and Beyond white sheets hooted and hollered shooting their firearms in the air in agreement.
Nakia on a Wardog mission laughed to herself knowing full well they were leading her back to their secret hideout for an ambush they would not believe.
Suddenly the mighty gas guzzling pickup rammed to a complete stop jerking the passengers.
Grand Wizard of The KKK: "WTF... I just put a full tank of gas in this beast boys check the engine!"
Nakia sighed and shook her head angrily... Oh no he didn't and not again with those Kimoyo beads.
Fast Forward to after the Black Panther beat down because bad writers often never depict him doing feats on panel... You know that old chestnut! :o
T'challa: "Nakia I..."
Nakia: "Don't even bother freezing you keep ruining my missions!"
T'challa: "My mother has..."
Nakia: "Not buying it!"
T'challa: "Princess Shuri is..."
Nakia: "Nope just spoke to her moments before my capture!"
T'challa: "General Okoye..."
Nakia: "Is tracking my movements by satellite... NEXT!"
T'challa: "I broke a nail..."
Nakia: "Oh you poor baby!"
T'challa: "I just need a hug!"
Nakia: "Get over here!"
Grand Wizard of The KKK: "When you nigraz get finished making whoopies over there could you call an ambulance I can't feel nothin in my legs!"
Editors Note: Just trying to keep up with MoS and BoG who have had some excellent posts recently!
Wakanda Forever... :cool:
[url]https://www.*********.com/t-shirts/nakia?query=black-panther[/url]
here's a soft pitch.
STORM: WALKABOUT
Storm is, by nature, a balanced, peaceful person who prefers quiet and summoning with nature *partly due to the nature of her mutation). Over the yers, we've seen glimpses of this but, for this first arc, we focus in. After all the recent and basically constant battles between humans and mutants and mutants and other mutants and mutants and inhumans and dan it, ENOUGH. Ororo is cracking a little. Not breaking under the strain but, instead, dropping the full goddess hammer on EVERY opponent even when it's not warranted.
Our lady needs a break.
She tells all this to her ex-husband, now friend with benefits, T'Challa who ABSOLUTELY understands the need to get away sometimes. He offers her a "step disk" a non-teleportational travel device that allows her to "slide" any distance, using the earth's rotation and magnetosphere. This means she can't be tracked by friends or foes. He also offers her a Wakandan stealth sheath. Unlike an image inducer, which changes visual appearance only, the stealth sheath will mask her mutant signature and modify her physical characteristics so she can blend with regular humans (white straight hair modified to something negroid, blue yes to dark green or brown). She now looks the ay she would if she wasn't a mutant.
He offers to travel with her but him being with her defeats the purpose. She just wants to be alone.
She walks and flies back up to Kenya, to touch base with her mom's ancestral home and then, because she's never really explored that side of her heritage, flips over to the US to look into her father's side. This takes her down to Louisiana, a place still dealing with the aftermath of hurricanes and the expectation of more to come. She digs in, meets some nice folks and then, inadvertently, pisses off the Loa when she makes a teeny tiny change to the local weather conditions.
As punishment, the Loa destroy her slide device and make her artificial changes permanent, also, until they feel she's paid off her punishment, no one she's ever known will know her. She's magically blanketed from all their memories. Storm wanted some alone time? She wanted some time off? Now she's got both in spades. She's still got her powers and her skills but that's all.
he seeks out Jericho Drumm for assistance and the two of them embark on a journey across the US, the Caribbean, Africa and at least two other dimensions to break the Loa's curse. Maybe they even fall in love a little bit.
That's my Storm series first arc. 12 to 14 issues.
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818200]personally i never liked the marriage. by putting them together you undercut your ability to bring out new characters and unique rogues galleries for both.
If it were up to me, Storm would have her OWN book with her OWN secondary characters and villains and her OWN, unique, original love interest(s) that had nothing to do with anyone but her. Same with the Panther.
By combining them you cut your story potential in half.
That's just me.[/QUOTE]
[B]I agree but not because of new characters and rogues, but rather because they belong to two different franchises and depending on the popularity of the characters, it causes alot of conflict of interest. But if there was a willingness to work with Hudlin rather then troll the marriage it does open up new story angles that cannot be explored otherwise
I think it could work now because Storm doesn't have a Solo and hasn't gotten any developments from x office in the recent years. That being said that ship has sailed and they need to part ways.[/B]
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818244]here's a soft pitch.
STORM: WALKABOUT
Storm is, by nature, a balanced, peaceful person who prefers quiet and summoning with nature *partly due to the nature of her mutation). Over the yers, we've seen glimpses of this but, for this first arc, we focus in. After all the recent and basically constant battles between humans and mutants and mutants and other mutants and mutants and inhumans and dan it, ENOUGH. Ororo is cracking a little. Not breaking under the strain but, instead, dropping the full goddess hammer on EVERY opponent even when it's not warranted.
Our lady needs a break.
She tells all this to her ex-husband, now friend with benefits, T'Challa who ABSOLUTELY understands the need to get away sometimes. He offers her a "step disk" a non-teleportational travel device that allows her to "slide" any distance, using the earth's rotation and magnetosphere. This means she can't be tracked by friends or foes. He also offers her a Wakandan stealth sheath. Unlike an image inducer, which changes visual appearance only, the stealth sheath will mask her mutant signature and modify her physical characteristics so she can blend with regular humans (white straight hair modified to something negroid, blue yes to dark green or brown). She now looks the ay she would if she wasn't a mutant.
He offers to travel with her but him being with her defeats the purpose. She just wants to be alone.
She walks and flies back up to Kenya, to touch base with her mom's ancestral home and then, because she's never really explored that side of her heritage, flips over to the US to look into her father's side. This takes her down to Louisiana, a place still dealing with the aftermath of hurricanes and the expectation of more to come. She digs in, meets some nice folks and then, inadvertently, pisses off the Loa when she makes a teeny tiny change to the local weather conditions.
As punishment, the Loa destroy her slide device and make her artificial changes permanent, also, until they feel she's paid off her punishment, no one she's ever known will know her. She's magically blanketed from all their memories. Storm wanted some alone time? She wanted some time off? Now she's got both in spades. She's still got her powers and her skills but that's all.
he seeks out Jericho Drumm for assistance and the two of them embark on a journey across the US, the Caribbean, Africa and at least two other dimensions to break the Loa's curse. Maybe they even fall in love a little bit.
That's my Storm series first arc. 12 to 14 issues.[/QUOTE]
[B]That's not a bad pitch at all. It would be worth checking out, if simply for the fact that I think you would do a go job[/B]
imagine what it would be if i thought about it for more than five minutes.
Redjack...
12 to 14 issues is a little over a year... Make it 36 issues so that she is tied up for at least 3 years and unavailable for any other franchise! (hint hint):cool:
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3818013][B]LOL BoG! That's gold![/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3818195]Beautiful post.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3818235]Editors Note: Just trying to keep up with MoS and BoG who have had some excellent posts recently![/QUOTE]
Thank you, my friends. I don't let that part of myself out to play very often, but I didn't pick the name [I][B]Beware[/B] of Geek[/I] on a whim. :cool:
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3818330]Redjack...
12 to 14 issues is a little over a year... Make it 36 issues so that she is tied up for at least 3 years and unavailable for any other franchise! (hint hint):cool:[/QUOTE]
i have to think of my day job.
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818200]personally i never liked the marriage. by putting them together you undercut your ability to bring out new characters and unique rogues galleries for both.
If it were up to me, Storm would have her OWN book with her OWN secondary characters and villains and her OWN, unique, original love interest(s) that had nothing to do with anyone but her. Same with the Panther.
By combining them you cut your story potential in half.
That's just me.[/QUOTE]
Reginald Hudlin had no problem portraying both characters in a balanced manner when he wrote them as a married couple.
Dwayne McDuffie did the same really well too so it's not as if it was impossible.
I just wish this Storm issue would stop cropping up in this thread.
T'challa rarely gets mentioned in the Storm Appreciation Thread and you definitely won't find any T'challa-centric scans taking up mad space in the aforementioned Storm thread.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3818455]Reginald Hudlin had no problem portraying both characters in a balanced manner when he wrote them as a married couple.
Dwayne McDuffie did the same really well too so it's not as if it was impossible.[/QUOTE]
yeah. we're not required to agree on every point. i thought it was an error then and i think it's an error now. Dwayne could make any story point sing, no matter how misguided. We just differ on that. I think every character that merits a solo book should have their own rogues gallery, their own supporting characters and their own reason for being that sets them apart from other solo heroes.
At the time of the marriage Storm was just one of many Xmen and BP had supported MULTIPLE books over decades. She fit into his story because no one had figured out how to make her stand on her on in a solo book. I think she can carry her own book so I'm, PERSONALLY, not interested in promoting her as supporting cast for BP. Which is what she was. The book is called Black Panther, not BP and Storm. She would always be second tier. I think she deserves better than that.
Mileage varies.
Redjack what day job... Nobody works out here in LA money grows on palm trees and we just pick it and stare at back to back sunsets! :cool:
This Southern California heatwave has been working a brotha even my light saber melted in my hands... DAYUM!!!
You know it's hot when your dog won't go outside and will just hold it until night time comes and things cool off!
I hereby blame this Southern California heat and the recent past drought on Storm... Get on your grind girl you slipping! ;)
[QUOTE=XPac;3818232]She can still theoretically have most of that if she gets her own book (minus the original love interest part if she's married). Luke Cage and Jessica Jones for example, can still tell relatively separate stories in their own solo books even though there is cross over.
But until Storm gets her own book, it's sort of wishful thinking anyways. Hopefully they do give her another shot. Until them, I'm honestly good seeing her in X-Men and Black Panther and any other book that wants to use her.[/QUOTE]
Luke nor his wife are X-Men.
Neither belong to a franchise. They are their own people.
There is no Luke Cage nor Jessica office to throw shade on each other. Nor would those two be in the middle of some event.
Also both of them had the SAME writer build them up together. Bendis did not have to answer to another office.
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I just wish this Storm issue would stop cropping up in this thread.
T'challa rarely gets mentioned in the Storm Appreciation Thread and you definitely won't find any T'challa-centric scans taking up mad space in the aforementioned Storm thread
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Because they have nothing to talk about there. Other than argue over Jean, Power levels and so on. Since Panther's book is the only place she gets anything type of development-it gets talked here.
As Redjack pointed out this does not do her any type of justice. Cage & Jessica work because they have their own books or starred in a book that allowed it to be about the both of them.
Whose fault is all this? Her franchise. Because no one else should have to build up YOUR franchise's characters. If they do-let them go and make sure they never get mentioned in your franchise like what we saw with Prodigy.
I'm reviewing a second issue in a single day because I skipped yesterday.
Marvel Premiere #52 - [i]Journey Through the Past[/i]
[img]https://www.use.com/images/s_2/3d6c9050906f2d6eb452_7.jpg[/img]
This episode starts with the dead body of Wind Eagle. We find out he was a Dominican man from New York who engaged in crime and then turned over a new leaf and joined the Spiritual Light Society. The SLS is apparently the Dragon Circle. When leaving, T'Challa notices they're being followed and a car chase ensues. It's not as exciting as the one in the Black Panther movie, but has an old time French Connection vibe to it with people jumping out of the way, etc. Still, there's a fun moment where T'Challa leaps out of the moving car straight up to hang onto an overpass to ambush his pursuers. He then lands on the car and hangs on as the Wakandans lead them into a trap. Ed Hannigan is definitely trying for a noir vibe, even going as far as to call one of the bad guys a gunsel (we won't tell him what that term originally meant). Once again, there's a sniper in the wings to kill off any of the bad guys before they talk.
Turns out the bad guys in this one are the Klan. T'Challa infiltrates their meeting. They also know who the Reverend is - Mr. Addison, who the Klansman helpfully explains was part of their organization. Apparently, the Klan he is making [i]them[/i] look bad. He pretended to be a member of the Klan to finance some real estate deals that he used to finance the Dragon Circle. If I understand this correctly (and taken at face value since there is an unreliable narrator component here), Angela discovered what Addison was doing for the Klan in the name of the Klan and that was why she was killed.
Then, for some strange fucking reason, the Soul Strangler from Monica's mom's story shows up. They're trying to imply he's really a ghost or something. There's very much a Phantom Rider vibe to him. T'Challa jumps on top of him to remove his mask and he melts away in a cloud of smoke. Then T'Challa, Monica, Kevin Trublood, and Taku travel to Georgia to end this thing once and for all. And, hey, apparently Monica and Kevin are dating now!
I liked the first half of this issue quite a bit. It's filled with a 70s movie vibe that really works. I didn't love the convoluted explanation, but we have another issue for possibly a clearer explanation.
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3818494]Redjack what day job... Nobody works out here in LA money grows on palm trees and we just pick it and stare at back to back sunsets! :cool:
This Southern California heatwave has been working a brotha even my light saber melted in my hands... DAYUM!!!
You know it's hot when your dog won't go outside and will just hold it until night time comes and things cool off!
I hereby blame this Southern California heat and the recent past drought on Storm... Get on your grind girl you slipping! ;)[/QUOTE]
somebody's got to turn on the sprinklers.
Watching the Blu-ray and they really cleaned up the CGI/lighting problems at the theater during the 1st act.
That first BP fight scene is VERY underrated.
Boseman deserved Best Hero at the MTV Awards. Damn shame he doesn't get the credit he deserves elsewhere. Sure they could have used T'Challa some more in the outfit, but overall he gave a great performance.
I think after Civil War it got people thinking thats the only version of T'Challa. Boseman's T'Challa in BP had far more depth and layers to him. Coogler made him more "human".
Sure they could add more theatrics and more of a mastermind in the sequel, but they are off to a great start with the man himself.
My sprinklers quit they gave me their two week notice and headed back east somewhere where it's much cooler... :cool:
But I'm in that pool though getting my Aquaman on!
I should add a waterfall in case my son wants to challenge for King of the household!
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818460]yeah. we're not required to agree on every point. i thought it was an error then and i think it's an error now. Dwayne could make any story point sing, no matter how misguided. We just differ on that. I think every character that merits a solo book should have their own rogues gallery, their own supporting characters and their own reason for being that sets them apart from other solo heroes.
At the time of the marriage Storm was just one of many Xmen and BP had supported MULTIPLE books over decades. She fit into his story because no one had figured out how to make her stand on her on in a solo book. I think she can carry her own book so I'm, PERSONALLY, not interested in promoting her as supporting cast for BP. Which is what she was. The book is called Black Panther, not BP and Storm. She would always be second tier. I think she deserves better than that.
Mileage varies.[/QUOTE]
[B]O will say, a book titled Black Panther and Storm when they we're married could of Maybe mitigated some hate[/B]
[QUOTE=Redjack;3818460]yeah. we're not required to agree on every point. i thought it was an error then and i think it's an error now. Dwayne could make any story point sing, no matter how misguided. We just differ on that. I think every character that merits a solo book should have their own rogues gallery, their own supporting characters and their own reason for being that sets them apart from other solo heroes.
At the time of the marriage Storm was just one of many Xmen and BP had supported MULTIPLE books over decades. She fit into his story because no one had figured out how to make her stand on her on in a solo book. I think she can carry her own book so I'm, PERSONALLY, not interested in promoting her as supporting cast for BP. Which is what she was. The book is called Black Panther, not BP and Storm. She would always be second tier. I think she deserves better than that.
Mileage varies.[/QUOTE]
Post Hudlin/Liss, I have ZERO interest in seeing Storm taking valuable panel time away from T'challa and his uncomplicated pre-Coates supporting cast.
The sooner both are no longer staple factors in an ongoing BP solo, the better.
Peace. :)
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;3818512]Luke nor his wife are X-Men.
Neither belong to a franchise. They are their own people.
There is no Luke Cage nor Jessica office to throw shade on each other. Nor would those two be in the middle of some event.
Also both of them had the SAME writer build them up together. Bendis did not have to answer to another office.
Because they have nothing to talk about there. Other than argue over Jean, Power levels and so on. Since Panther's book is the only place she gets anything type of development-it gets talked here.
As Redjack pointed out this does not do her any type of justice. Cage & Jessica work because they have their own books or starred in a book that allowed it to be about the both of them.
Whose fault is all this? Her franchise. Because no one else should have to build up YOUR franchise's characters. If they do-let them go and make sure they never get mentioned in your franchise like what we saw with Prodigy.[/QUOTE]
Real talk.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3818872][B]O will say, a book titled Black Panther and Storm when they we're married could of Maybe mitigated some hate[/B][/QUOTE]
Haters would have hated regardless.
Where's Valkyrie when you need her?
Straight knocking faux goddess's out've the sky (and this thread) with Asgardian War hammers.
If you're going to do "Ugly Nakia" right you need to learn from the old school experts and not be so ratchet about it!
The Late Great Carrie Fisher (Forever Princess Leia) shows you how a scorned "EX" properly stalks her beloved and looks absolutely beautiful doing it... :cool:
[video=youtube;xggMwkGnbhw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggMwkGnbhw[/video]
Stalkers Anonymous... Here's how the pros do it Ugly Nakia!
I'll just leave this right here... :cool:
[video=youtube;PD_aI-za3zI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD_aI-za3zI[/video]
You don't stalk Storm at the grocery store you befriend her at the beauty shop getting your hair and nails done all relaxed with the guard down and get in "close" with her and her "closest" friends and set up elaborate traps they never saw coming!
How close... Glenn Close! (Har har har)
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3818722]Boseman deserved Best Hero at the MTV Awards. Damn shame he doesn't get the credit he deserves elsewhere. Sure they could have used T'Challa some more in the outfit, but overall he gave a great performance.
I think after Civil War it got people thinking thats the only version of T'Challa. Boseman's T'Challa in BP had far more depth and layers to him. Coogler made him more "human".
Sure they could add more theatrics and more of a mastermind in the sequel, but they are off to a great start with the man himself.[/QUOTE]
[B]That's what bugs me. People keep saying "Tchalla was better in CW" Dude was only in there for I think 15 min total. And in revenge mode..of course he will nake a big splash and steal every scene. Just like people Said wright and Duke stole every scene, it's easy to do when the screen Time is limited. However, Boseman commanded every scene by the fact that he was able to get to perfectly wear multiple hats and gave the Characters a good bounce off with his attitude.[/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3818953][B]That's what bugs me. People keep saying "Tchalla was better in CW" Dude was only in there for I think 15 min total. And in revenge mode..of course he will nake a big splash and steal every scene. Just like people Said wright and Duke stole every scene, it's easy to do when the screen Time is limited. However, Boseman commanded every scene by the fact that he was able to get to perfectly wear multiple hats and gave the Characters a good bounce off with his attitude.[/B][/QUOTE]
T'challa came across a lot more uncompromising and enigmatic in Civil War in my humble opinion. Clearly delineated fight scenes both in and out of ceremonial habit were also on evidence in CW and T'Challa's final dialogue with Zeno was solid.
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3818719]Watching the Blu-ray and they really cleaned up the CGI/lighting problems at the theater during the 1st act.
That first BP fight scene is VERY underrated.[/QUOTE]
Oh really? I haven't had a chance to watch the blu ray yet (too many movies in a short period of time for me + playstation lol). I was hoping that woudl be the case.
The third time I watched it in theaters, I liked it a bit better because I knew where to look in the damn dark. But it was still WAY too dark.
It is a good scene if you can see stuff lol. And there is actually a lot of depth in there other than T'challa beating ass lol. T'challa freezing when seeing Nakia. Nakia not freezing (which is indicative of her character). How one of the terrorists dudes was just a captured scared kid, how okoye told those woman to speak nothing of this, implying that Wakanda was a myth and legend to the region more than anything.
My curiosity is peaked, I may have to pop it in soon.
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3818722]Boseman deserved Best Hero at the MTV Awards. Damn shame he doesn't get the credit he deserves elsewhere. Sure they could have used T'Challa some more in the outfit, but overall he gave a great performance.
I think after Civil War it got people thinking thats the only version of T'Challa. Boseman's T'Challa in BP had far more depth and layers to him. Coogler made him more "human".
Sure they could add more theatrics and more of a mastermind in the sequel, but they are off to a great start with the man himself.[/QUOTE]
Hey, we actually agree on something!
Coogler made T'challa royal, honorable, noble, caring, ect... without turning him into a lil bitch and a noble negro trope. They kept the "warrior" in him and kept the mild arrogance of being a monarch of a super powerful nation. Which is a line the comics have never really found.
[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;3818512]Luke nor his wife are X-Men.
Neither belong to a franchise. They are their own people.
There is no Luke Cage nor Jessica office to throw shade on each other. Nor would those two be in the middle of some event.
Also both of them had the SAME writer build them up together. Bendis did not have to answer to another office.
Because they have nothing to talk about there. Other than argue over Jean, Power levels and so on. Since Panther's book is the only place she gets anything type of development-it gets talked here.
As Redjack pointed out this does not do her any type of justice. Cage & Jessica work because they have their own books or starred in a book that allowed it to be about the both of them.
Whose fault is all this? Her franchise. Because no one else should have to build up YOUR franchise's characters. If they do-let them go and make sure they never get mentioned in your franchise like what we saw with Prodigy.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I would certainly agree that having 2 different offices logistically creates more complications for a marriage. More chefs in the kitchen potentially means more problems.
I'm just arguing from a storytelling standpoint, they can still tell unique stories with both characters in solo books even if they are married. They can have their own villains and their own supporting casts. Luke and Jessica are an example of that.
I will say though that having them merely in a relationship without actually being married to some degree mitigates those issues. If one office decides to go a different direction the relationship can end without as much difficulty, and they can always revisit it down the road again without as much difficulty.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3818953][B]That's what bugs me. People keep saying "Tchalla was better in CW" Dude was only in there for I think 15 min total. And in revenge mode..of course he will nake a big splash and steal every scene. Just like people Said wright and Duke stole every scene, it's easy to do when the screen Time is limited. However, Boseman commanded every scene by the fact that he was able to get to perfectly wear multiple hats and gave the Characters a good bounce off with his attitude.[/B][/QUOTE]
Which is why its kind of scary for me to see so much "he's better in CW or IW talk"
Its almost like fans are trying to hint at that T'Challa needs to be like Darth Vader or the Hulk. Meaning they work better the less time you see them. Its why although incredible (honestly the best Marvel hero performance since Winter Soldier and would have been ever if they gave him more fight scenes) I do think they need to double down in the sequel. Gotta shut up the detractors who directly or indirectly think T'Challa needs to be more of a side character with just a limited viewpoint.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3819253]Oh really? I haven't had a chance to watch the blu ray yet (too many movies in a short period of time for me + playstation lol). I was hoping that woudl be the case.
The third time I watched it in theaters, I liked it a bit better because I knew where to look in the damn dark. But it was still WAY too dark.
It is a good scene if you can see stuff lol. And there is actually a lot of depth in there other than T'challa beating ass lol. T'challa freezing when seeing Nakia. Nakia not freezing (which is indicative of her character). How one of the terrorists dudes was just a captured scared kid, how okoye told those woman to speak nothing of this, implying that Wakanda was a myth and legend to the region more than anything.
My curiosity is peaked, I may have to pop it in soon.
[B]Hey, we actually agree on something!
[/B]
Coogler made T'challa royal, honorable, noble, caring, ect... without turning him into a lil bitch and a noble negro trope. They kept the "warrior" in him and kept the mild arrogance of being a monarch of a super powerful nation. Which is a line the comics have never really found.[/QUOTE]
For now!
Yea I couldn't see much during the theater, but I assumed that was part of the point. How T'Challa would look in Africa at night in the jungle.
However, in the cleaned up and brighter version it might actually be the characters best fight scene in the movie. Low key Civil War type stuff, but with bounce/agility of the comics.
I was always more of a fan of the new suit. However, in terms of usage I think the old suit is better. The bulkiness of it makes it look less CGI. Similar to how OG Ironman outfit looks better than a lot of the new ones in motion.
I think if they kept the OG suit throughout the entire movie its possible the CGI would have come across better. It certainly did once I was able to see everything. Then again BP's suit looked great in IW so..
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3819022]T'challa came across a lot more uncompromising and enigmatic in Civil War in my humble opinion. Clearly delineated fight scenes both in and out of ceremonial habit were also on evidence in CW and T'Challa's final dialogue with Zeno was solid.[/QUOTE]
[B] Which is fine because it wasn't his movie and he literally just lost his father and his murderer was at Large. We aren't going to get a very friendly Tchalla nor would I expect it, unless they went that stupid Noble negro route. However, in his own movie?
You can't have a guy who Just lost his father a week ago, being thrust Into the role of King, be this uncompromising and enigmatic person as he was said he felt he wasn't ready and asked his father what he should do. His father told him to surround himself with people he trusted and that's why we start seek out his supporting cast have more development and get into their minds as to what they are thinking.
We had a Tchalla that had to balance being a part, a king, a good man, and a superhero. I felt he was personally pretty badass when he was chasing Klaw down and had it not been that so many people were around he would of killed him outright "Every breathe you take is Mercy from me"
All in all, he couldn't be the same Tchalla in CW in terms of being revenge mode because there was so much more going on in his movie and now his actions affected his nation even more then before. Finally, in regards to his skills that's why I feel the warriors falls fights are arguably the best fights in the MCU. They are on even (not really as Tchalla is depowered and fights at a disadvantage) grounds and it's just a brutal fight. No trick's or powers just straight up skill[/B]