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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3177432]None of which changes the fact that the Blade movies were based on a Marvel Comicbook character.
[B]It's not like anyone in here was talking about superheroes or any of the other stuff you've brought up in your post.[/B]
What cannot be in dispute is the fact that the first Blade got Hollywood interested in comicbook movies again. (Especially R-rated ones)
What superheroics has to do with anything as regards this discussion is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
I'm not the guy who said Blade was at its core considered a Superhero movie.
Maybe it is now, but it wasn't when it came out.
In the 90's once you got past Batman, the only comic book movies that did anything were the ones
that didn't LOOK like Super Hero flicks (The Mask, Blade, Men In Black).
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3177595][B]If Baron Zemo can Kill T'chaka, instead of Klaw you know, the whole basis reason for why T'challa became the Bp and hates klaw so much.... Then i think it will be no big deal if Naki doens't become Malice, Especially when there is only so much source material to base her off of because it was only for an arc that she was around before she was killed. So, Coogler has free reigns to take this however he wants, and there is potential for young girls to have multiple WOC to look up to. The Genius Princess, The Badass Ride or Die Royal guard, or the secret agent War Dog.. Thats a GOOD thing not ex-lover turn scorned villain. There is already too much negativity being shown between black men and black women in media as it is, time to show a healthy relationship, even if they dont end up together by the end of the movie they should be shown to obviously care for each other and be seen in a positive light [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not even saying it's a big deal either way. All I'm saying is that despite whatever changes they have made as far as converting a comic character into their movie version, to my recollection all the heroes stayed heroes and all the villains stayed villains true to the source material. So that's what I'm persponally expecting here. But if they wanna change that, it doesn't bother me in the slightest... the writer is free to do whatever the heck they want.
I don't entirely think it makes sense to use the name Nakia if you're not going the Malice route since there are a few other options available like Malaika which make more sense ... but again, no big deal either way. We'll see where they go with it.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3177612][B]Yeaaaaaaa... Except Priest already corrected this, by having Klaw Know that vibranium is his weakness and preparing for that, forcing T'Challa to anticipate his upgrades, makes for exciting and dynamic showdowns, I mean all it really takes is for a big upgrade to make it so that, while yes vibranium is Klaws natural kryptonite, its not always the one hit K.O. There can be a revamp story in which Klaw gains power (Maybe after being in hiding for so long to make himself stronger, or absorbing enough sound from the earth itself, or beyond that) that T'challa and Klaw throw down, T'Challa realizes that Klaw isn't as effected by Vibranium weapons as he was before, and falls back, while still giving them both good showings, then it comes to a bout of Klaw becoming an Avengers level threat that takes the avengers (or multiple avengers teams) to take down, with T'challa scoring the "Killing Blow" in the end.
It upgrades Klaw to a higher level threat, he can still come back and face T'Challa in his solo in a one on one bout, or he can be used as a big Avengers team threat. It simply requires writers to stop being lazy asses and See that Klaw is a near cosmic level being [/B][/QUOTE]
Sure, an upgrade to Klaw would work. Honestly I think more villains should be upgraded. Given they essentially lose all the time, they need it more than the heroes usually do.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;3177676]I'm not the guy who said Blade was at its core considered a Superhero movie.
Maybe it is now, but it wasn't when it came out.
In the 90's once you got past Batman, [B]the only comic book movies that did anything were the ones
that didn't LOOK like Super Hero flicks[/B] (The Mask, Blade, Men In Black).[/QUOTE]
So, also X-Men? Other than the name recognition and arguably Magneto's helmet X-Men ran as far away from looking like a superhero movie as possible. But because it's X-Men and you can't run from that name.
Like I said before. X-Men's lineage was Blade > The Matrix > X-Men.
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;3177698]So, X-Men? Other than the name recognition and arguably Magneto's helmet X-Men ran as far away from looking like a superhero movie as possible. But because it's X-Men and you can't run from that name we're counting it?[/QUOTE]
The X-Men's trailer assumes that the Xmen are already known to the audience. They name Wolverine, Rogue, Jean Grey Storm and
Cyke in the trailer( as well as Magneto and Sabertooth).
Blade's trailer was selling the vampire slaying premise and Wesley Snipes(not necessarily in that order).
Hell you can't even get the majority of Marvel cape comics fans to consider Blade a superhero now.
Imagine what the general movie going public of the 90's thought.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3177683]I'm not even saying it's a big deal either way. All I'm saying is that despite whatever changes they have made as far as converting a comic character into their movie version, to my recollection all the heroes stayed heroes and all the villains stayed villains true to the source material. So that's what I'm persponally expecting here. But if they wanna change that, it doesn't bother me in the slightest... the writer is free to do whatever the heck they want.
I don't entirely think it makes sense to use the name Nakia if you're not going the Malice route since there are a few other options available like Malaika which make more sense ... but again, no big deal either way. We'll see where they go with it.[/QUOTE]
[B]Except they are Drawing from Priests run heavily, so it makes sense to use the names of the two OG Dora's who were apart of that series. Again The Nakia route hasn't even been touched since priest and frankly it was a short arc, Priest didn't develop her as a villain because she died at the end of the arc, so they dont HAVE to go the Malice route at all because there is little source material to go of off. They CAN continue the Dora route because there is more material to use.
Plus Again Zemo killed T'Chaka, not Klaw.. Thats a MAJOR Change from Comics. Almost as big a change if T'Challa isn't showcased to be a super genius in the movie but Shuri is (This still grinds my gears that it hasn't been fully confirmed yet, though im still hoping Coogler Plans to completely surprise everyone with T'Challa pulling some Badass genius feat) the super genius [/B]
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[QUOTE=XPac;3177686]Sure, an upgrade to Klaw would work. Honestly I think more villains should be upgraded. Given they essentially lose all the time, they need it more than the heroes usually do.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yes they do need to be upgraded, but right now im talking about Klaw in particular, He needs to stop being fodder for street level heroes because he is above that. in the SE Event he realistically should of rocked Cage and his defenders crew Solo because they have ZERO counters for him, but he just gets kicked in the face by Spiderwoman in some splash page, or in Moon girls book gets knocked down by ... fire hydrant.. So yeah, KLAW needs an upgrade and the movie is coming quick. Hopefully rise of the BP gives a good showing because i have little Faith Coates will do it right. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3177807][B]Yes they do need to be upgraded, but right now im talking about Klaw in particular, He needs to stop being fodder for street level heroes because he is above that. in the SE Event he realistically should of rocked Cage and his defenders crew Solo because they have ZERO counters for him, but he just gets kicked in the face by Spiderwoman in some splash page, or in Moon girls book gets knocked down by ... fire hydrant.. So yeah, KLAW needs an upgrade and the movie is coming quick. Hopefully rise of the BP gives a good showing because i have little Faith Coates will do it right. [/B][/QUOTE]
Judging from the sollicits it at least sounds like Klaw is getting a good showing. But sollicits aren't always accurate so we'll see.
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Gotta admit - I don't like the prelude issue. I really hate the trope of "x metal has to beat itself." A gun is a gun. It's going to propel a bullet made of lead at the same speed as a bullet made of Vibranium. Nitpicking, of course. But I also hated it in Wolverine's Origin movie.
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[QUOTE=SKJoker;3177955]Gotta admit - I don't like the prelude issue. I really hate the trope of "x metal has to beat itself." A gun is a gun. It's going to propel a bullet made of lead at the same speed as a bullet made of Vibranium. Nitpicking, of course. But I also hated it in Wolverine's Origin movie.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's comic book logic. They could have introduced anti-metal vibranium instead. But it's probably better to save that for an actual movie appearance.
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I liked the prequel comic. It was a simple comic book that met expectations of what a pre-movie comic is. Vibranium bullet didn't make sense, but I've seem comics use Vb opposed to how the element works so they're not breaking new ground. lol
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3176746]Guard your grill my bro.
These streets are treacherous and the Nazgul fly free seek8ng unwilling sacrifices to Sauron's dungeons.[/QUOTE]
I login every day hoping I can spit e-bars half as good as you do bro. [I]Half as good![/I]
Just so you know.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;3177755]The X-Men's trailer assumes that the Xmen are already known to the audience. They name Wolverine, Rogue, Jean Grey Storm and
Cyke in the trailer( as well as Magneto and Sabertooth).[/QUOTE]
The X-Men also had an insanely popular children's show that had only gone off the air a few years prior and was likely still showing in indication. It's fair to say despite the lack of costumes, audiences knew they were getting a superhero movie.
Though interestingly I've heard it argued that Blade probably influenced the visuals of a lot of early 2000's comic books, at least as far as the (now disliked) trope of having everyone in black leather is concerned.
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[QUOTE=Holt;3178081]The X-Men also had an insanely popular children's show that had only gone off the air a few years prior and was likely still showing in indication. It's fair to say despite the lack of costumes, audiences knew they were getting a superhero movie.
Though interestingly I've heard it argued that Blade probably influenced the visuals of a lot of early 2000's comic books, at least as far as the (now disliked) trope of having everyone in black leather is concerned.[/QUOTE]
At the time the first movie was made, weren't the X-men dressed similar to how they were in the movie? I remember when Astonishing started years later was when they went back to superhero style costumes