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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;2205400]This was what i kinda was expecting from Coats Wakanda. Seeing Tchalla, wakadian citizens,Dora's and HZ working together. Handling issues.
Like Coats love to peddle "No one man should have all that Power" well these scan showed that not only Tchalla had a hand in protecting Wakanda and all shared in the responsibilitie of their birthright.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this is the typical showing for the worst jobbers in the Marvel Universe, the Hand.
The Elite Ninjas who can't kill anybody.
Have the Hand EVER beaten anybody when in a group?
If the Hand fought Imperial Stormtroopers who would win?
I can only assume both sides would somehow manage to wipe themselves out with friendly fire (even the dudes who were only armed with swords).
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It shouldn't have taken a Dora to stop the sex trafficking. It should have been the people.
Everyone Loves to boast about Wakanda technology superiority, and vast richies.
But the thing i always treasure about Wakanda was their moral and warrior superiority. They lead the world in every way. I and many others consider Wakanda to be the jewel Nation of earth.
Remove S.W.OR.D. S.H.E.I.L.D. and the Avengers.
Attilan and Wakanda are the last strong hold and protectors of earth. With the actual skill might to do so.
BlackBolt and the Inhuman Nation set themselves above humans and consider the earth as a sovereign onto themselves.
While Wakanda is the Nation thats act like the elder sibling and is responsible for showing the rest of their siblings the way without having to conquer
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[QUOTE=C_haos;2205412]Haha there are many ways to write Wakanda because they are different parts not to mention that within the past few years they had the equivalent of their military being sliced and diced by a mystical being(where are those scans) , Doom almost killing their King and inspiring a coup (Where are Those Scans), The equivalent of a class 10 hurricane hitting their country and the most powerful galactic Armada this side of the Shi'Ar empire invading their country and laying waste. It's long been known Wakanda had organized crime how much worse do you think it's gotten since all of that has occurred especially in the rural regions?[/QUOTE]
All of the scans you've highlighted have been posted by myself and others over the length of this thread so all you have to do is apply due dilligence to go seek them out.
[QUOTE=C_haos;2205412]Side note can we count T Challa defeflecting the first blast by the Namor empowered Phoenix or are we gonna act like it didn't happen?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what relevance the scene you've mentioned has as regards what's being discussed/debated at present, but you're more than welcome to post the scan yourself.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;2205456]It shouldn't have taken a Dora to stop the sex trafficking. It should have been the people.
Everyone Loves to boast about Wakanda technology superiority, and vast richies.
But the thing i always treasure about Wakanda was their moral and warrior superiority. They lead the world in every way. I and many others consider Wakanda to be the jewel Nation of earth.
Remove S.W.OR.D. S.H.E.I.L.D. and the Avengers.
Attilan and Wakanda are the last strong hold and protectors of earth. With the actual skill might to do so.
BlackBolt and the Inhuman Nation set themselves above humans and consider the earth as a sovereign onto themselves.
[B]
While Wakanda is the Nation thats act like the elder sibling and is responsible for showing the rest of their siblings the way without having to conquer[/B][/QUOTE]
The bold seems to depend on who's the ruler of Wakanda. T'Challa appears to be the one that is heading towards the direction of guiding the world. The previous panthers--and even Shuri during her time as Queen to some extent--tend to stick to the isolationist model, with variations here and there depending on the individual.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;2205456]It shouldn't have taken a Dora to stop the sex trafficking. It should have been the people.
Everyone Loves to boast about Wakanda technology superiority, and vast richies.
But the thing i always treasure about Wakanda was their moral and warrior superiority. They lead the world in every way. I and many others consider Wakanda to be the jewel Nation of earth.
Remove S.W.OR.D. S.H.E.I.L.D. and the Avengers.
Attilan and Wakanda are the last strong hold and protectors of earth. With the actual skill might to do so.
BlackBolt and the Inhuman Nation set themselves above humans and consider the earth as a sovereign onto themselves.
While Wakanda is the Nation thats act like the elder sibling and is responsible for showing the rest of their siblings the way without having to conquer[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/14lk0fs.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2205487]The bold seems to depend on who's the ruler of Wakanda. T'Challa appears to be the one that is heading towards the direction of guiding the world. The previous panthers--and even Shuri during her time as Queen to some extent--tend to stick to the isolationist model, with variations here and there depending on the individual.[/QUOTE]
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You mean this "isolationist" Shuri?[/SIZE]
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[IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/2uswqvt.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2205458]All of the scans you've highlighted have been posted by myself and others over the length of this thread so all you have to do is apply due dilligence to go seek them out.
I'm not sure what relevance the scene you've mentioned has as regards what's being discussed/debated at present, but you're more than welcome to post the scan yourself.[/QUOTE]
The point I am making is that Wakanda is a nation the scans you posted just feature the capital city. Prior writers have shown how the rural areas are and how the tribes really don't get along. So either you don't care or you do either you respond so it's cool lol
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2205535][SIZE=4]
You mean this "isolationist" Shuri?[/SIZE]
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[IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/2uswqvt.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Yeah, this was before the Invitations and the Flood.. So things change
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2205535][SIZE=4]
You mean this "isolationist" Shuri?[/SIZE]
[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/9gbkmb.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i68.tinypic.com/2uswqvt.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Shuri wasn't as hard line on isolationism as T'Chaka and his predecessors but she didn't seem to stray too far away from it either, imho. Hence me saying she stuck to isolationism "to some extent."
Under T'Challa's rule Wakanda tends to be more proactive on a global scale. Under Shuri's rule, Wakanda still had lines of communication with the outside world and even considered certain individuals and/or organizations allies, but it usually kept to itself, rarely if ever interfered in other nations' affairs, and didn't move under the philosophy of guiding humanity forward, opting for a more "live and let live" approach, imho.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2205299]He is winning on points? Must be one hell of a curve.[/QUOTE]
The problem with the people is that they essentially had all their eggs on one basket... Zenzi.
Neutralize her, which T'Challa suceeded in doing in the third issue, and unfortunately Tetu and company didn't have a whole lot left.
Hence them going for outside help... a VERY risky gamble IMO considering the Wakandan populace would turn against them IF they found out what Stane did on their behalf.
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Here's a question I'd like the pro-Coates faction to answer:
How did the Dora Milaje KNOW about the Treehouses Of Rape™? Or, for that matter, the chieftain mentioned in issue #1.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2205341]Well I think the second one is more a loss for Wakanda. But that is another thing that grates Wakanda is a Technology Powerhouse. And yet these Wakandan Kidnappers can only afford a wooden base?[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think that's how they're able to escape notice for as long as they have.
I imagine a larger organization with greater infastrure utilizing more resources would be harder to hide. It leaves a paper trail. Sometimes less is more.
But that issue aside, I don't think the high end technology in Wakanda was ever really distributed evenly. You essentially have the Golden City, which higher end potrayals might as well have taken out of Star Wars, in contrast to the surrounding areas which often had huts in trees inhabited by people in loin clothes with wooden spears. There was always that contrast.
But with discrepancy in resources I suspect also comes a discrepancy as far as the law goes. I suspect you can get away with a LOT more outside the prying eyes of the golden city. Lord knows how much surveilance exists in the city itself. But surrounding villages consisting of wooden huts probably receive a drop in that regard.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2205438]Yeah, this is the typical showing for the worst jobbers in the Marvel Universe, the Hand.
The Elite Ninjas who can't kill anybody.
Have the Hand EVER beaten anybody when in a group?
If the Hand fought Imperial Stormtroopers who would win?
I can only assume both sides would somehow manage to wipe themselves out with friendly fire (even the dudes who were only armed with swords).[/QUOTE]
They're pretty good against OTHER red shirts. They're maybe the best red shirts in marvel apart from the Doras ... they'd likely beat other canon fodder like Shield or Hydra agents.
But yeah... for all the hype they're jobbers.
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2205438]Yeah, this is the typical showing for the worst jobbers in the Marvel Universe, the Hand.
The Elite Ninjas who can't kill anybody.
Have the Hand EVER beaten anybody when in a group?
If the Hand fought Imperial Stormtroopers who would win?
I can only assume both sides would somehow manage to wipe themselves out with friendly fire (even the dudes who were only armed with swords).[/QUOTE]
Does anything you've typed here change the fact that regardless of whether it's marauding bands of Hand Ninja's Skrulls, eldritch Totem hunters like Morlun or Thanos Troopers, Wakandan's of all walks of life regardless of rank or station, unite to repel their attackers?
The whole purpose of my posting the scans featuring Shuri and her fellow Wakandan's pushing back the wigs of the Hand, was to illustrate Wakandan unity in the face of adversity and unwarranted aggression.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2205600]Shuri wasn't as hard line on isolationism as T'Chaka and his predecessors but she didn't seem to stray too far away from it either, imho. Hence me saying she stuck to isolationism "to some extent."
Under T'Challa's rule Wakanda tends to be more proactive on a global scale. Under Shuri's rule, Wakanda still had lines of communication with the outside world and even considered certain individuals and/or organizations allies, but it usually kept to itself, rarely if ever interfered in other nations' affairs, and didn't move under the philosophy of guiding humanity forward, opting for a more "live and let live" approach, imho.[/QUOTE]
Shuri was right.
T'Challa's "proactive" a$$ brought Namor and his marauding Atlantean forces flashflooding their way into Wakanda, and to be quite frank, after the UN left Wakanda to the "mercies" of the Cabal, there's absolutely zero reason why Wakanda shouldn't have withdrawn into itself to reflect upon the nations future moving forward.
T''Challa and the rest of the Royal Family taking time out to come to terms with his actions as regards all the secrets concerning the Illuminati and the Incursions was something that would have made for interesting reading.
Coates decided to give us gender drama and rape camps instead..
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205618]Here's a question I'd like the pro-Coates faction to answer:
How did the Dora Milaje KNOW about the Treehouses Of Rape™? Or, for that matter, the chieftain mentioned in issue #1.[/QUOTE]
[B]Could be something explored in the BP:WOW Because its suppose to show their budding feelings toward each other as well as when they started being unhappy with T'Challa's rule and So maybe it will go into it from there? Maybe they learned about it from the citizens?. Hard to say.
That's why i feel like if Coates didn't want the full sympathy from readers on the Doras and to treat them like they still did something wrong. Heres how it should of gone. He should of had T'Challa, or Ramonda send them on a mission to apprehend the Chieftain, and when they get there Aneka loses it and beats down the man (rightfully so) Ayo pulls her off and she interrogates him, he tells them there is more going on (that treehouse) and that if she promises not to hurt him he'll turn himself in, Ayo is disgusted with him and how he seems like a weasel but is going to take him into custody and Aneka Steps up, says somehting long the lines of "Those in a position of power should use that power to uplift, not enslave and absus" or something then she kills the man outright, Ayo is shocked about it and asks why she did it, and Aneka could reply with something like "Those who abuse their power over others, are a disease that is beyond saving".
Which then leads to the appeal by Ayo trying desperately to save Aneka, and then could also mean that that Convo Ramonda and T'Challa have after the mound fiasco Turns into "Well the good news is the chieftain won't be abusing those girls, the bad news is we don't know how far the operation goes due to Aneka's.. Actions" in Which T'Challa replies along the lines of sending a surveillance team out to see if they can find a trail or clues to the hideout. Fast forward to when Ayo rescues Aneka, she is pissed that her "Good Deed" almost cause her death and she believes that the punishment was fitting for the crime and she feels betrayed by the ruling family, could maybe throw in that he might've faced death for his actions and she just sped up the process.. OR she couldn't stand the thought of him rotten in a cell and still being ALIVE despite what he did to the women in his village and believed what she did was just...
Thats how i would of spun it, so you understand why she did it and as the guy was a scum bag, But she still committed murder when they were suppose to apprehend him to face justice in the golden city. So you Sympathize but to a certain extent but then as the reader you know very much so that she broke the law and that she would also have to understand her crimes especially because they were ordered to bring him in. It also leads to Aneka being the man driving force for pushing the revolution while Ayo follows her love and she stands by her despite maybe not fully agreeing completely on how she handled it and is slightly worried by her intensity as it starts to become an obsession, but loyal nonetheless. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205618]Here's a question I'd like the pro-Coates faction to answer:
How did the Dora Milaje KNOW about the Treehouses Of Rape™? Or, for that matter, the chieftain mentioned in issue #1.[/QUOTE]
I imagine we'll find out when the second BP book comes out.
But if I had to guess, I'd say someone simply told them.
It was stated that the chieftans actions were well known. But the fact that the chieftan was actually commiting the acts likely meant the conventional legal channels for dealing with this were compromised. So someone probably just went outside the regular channels to tell a Dora (perhaps a friend or hers or something), who decided to investigate it on her own.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2205676][B]Could be something explored in the BP:WOW Because its suppose to show their budding feelings toward each other as well as when they started being unhappy with T'Challa's rule and So maybe it will go into it from there? Maybe they learned about it from the citizens?. Hard to say.
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But that's not what Beware Of Geek asked.
There was nothing depicted from #'s 1-4 that illustrated how the Dora Milaje who slew the depraved came to discover something that no one else in the Royal Family or security forces were aware of.
Additionally, the fact that by issue four T'Challa is yet to address what triggered Ayo and Aneka's dynamic duo type assault on rape and general Boko Haram type depravity within Wakanda, say a lot about the general thematic ineptitude that T'Challa has been saddled with by the current BP writer.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2205717]I imagine we'll find out when the second BP book comes out.
But if I had to guess, I'd say someone simply told them.
It was stated that the chieftans actions were well known. But the fact that the chieftan was actually commiting the acts likely meant the conventional legal channels for dealing with this were compromised. So someone probably just went outside the regular channels to tell a Dora (perhaps a friend or hers or something), who decided to investigate it on her own.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it have been easier and more logical for this possible breakdown or compromise of proper channels to have been illustrated clearly?
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Yeah before it was T'Challa making poor decisions. Now its that plus him being absolutely inept.
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[B]Originally posted by Ture over on HEF.[/B]
[QUOTE]Not to mention from this...
[img]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/DigitalPage/1424256/b58b5ecb2d2b7924e1f752b7716e0de1._SX640_QL80_TTD_.jpg[/img]
[size=24pt][font=comic sans ms][b]To this... SMH[/b][/font][/size]
[img]https://dougernst.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/black-panther-3.jpeg[/img][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2205744]Yeah before it was T'Challa making poor decisions. Now its that plus him being absolutely inept.[/QUOTE]
And let's not forget T'Challa's patented empty threats......
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We are terror indeed. LOL!
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Yes....how could we forget.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2205779]Yes....how could we forget.[/QUOTE]
I'm just thankful for the fact that T'Challa is guest appearing well in a few other Marvel publications beause if his solo book was all one had to contend with, things would be quite bleak.
So much wasted potential....
[IMG]http://i64.tinypic.com/ngx1dk.jpg[/IMG]
Would THIS T'Challa be struggling against Tetu, Zenzi or........Goon Slam Gary and his Boot Stomp Percussionists?
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2205742]Wouldn't it have been easier and more logical for this possible breakdown or compromise of proper channels to have been illustrated clearly?[/QUOTE]
[B]Lack of panel space, it's not Coates focus, the second book can address it, Coates is a noob at this type of writing. There are many Reasons it could be. But Coates already said there was so much going on. T'Challa Was trying to put out a bunch of fires and doesn't have the resources.[/B]
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Yeah no. Your Protag sucking this hard cannot be justified by being a noob.
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Just checked the top 10 bestsellers list in Comixology. BP #4 is the only Marvel book besides Civil War to be in the top 10. DC is killing it right now.
[IMG]https://s31.postimg.org/jfg2clwnf/comix_digital_BP_sales.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2205803][B]Lack of panel space, it's not Coates focus, the second book can address it, Coates is a noob at this type of writing. There are many Reasons it could be. But Coates already said there was so much going on. T'Challa Was trying to put out a bunch of fires and doesn't have the resources.[/B][/QUOTE]
I think that's one of the big differences between writing a novel and writing a comic book. A comic is almost like a movie... you have a limited amount of space to tell your story and things end up on the cutting room floor to streamline it for the sake of momentum.
Having the MA's story told in "flashback" during a trial was a one page short cut from having the whole thing expanded upon as the story of what happened that likley could take up half the book (hence that story likely getting it's own book). But there's no room for that in BP's first issue. Heck, many have argued they already spent too much time on the MA's story.
But fortunately the MA generated enough interest at marvel so that Coates could write a second book going into greater detail their story. So for those that want more, they're getting it.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2205833]I think that's one of the big differences between writing a novel and writing a comic book. A comic is almost like a movie... you have a limited amount of space to tell your story and things end up on the cutting room floor to streamline it for the sake of momentum.
Having the MA's story told in "flashback" during a trial was a one page short cut from having the whole thing expanded upon as the story of what happened that likley could take up half the book (hence that story likely getting it's own book). But there's no room for that in BP's first issue. Heck, many have argued they already spent too much time on the MA's story.
But fortunately the MA generated enough interest at marvel so that Coates could write a second book going into greater detail their story. So for those that want more, they're getting it.[/QUOTE]
Here's the thing... if the way they found out was known to the government, then the government is willingly turning a blind eye, which makes them corrupt.
But if they have a way that ISN'T known to the government, then the MA are hypocrites for not TELLING anyone this was going on.
Lose-lose, I think.
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[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;2205456]It shouldn't have taken a Dora to stop the sex trafficking. It should have been the people.
Everyone Loves to boast about Wakanda technology superiority, and vast richies.
But the thing i always treasure about Wakanda was their moral and warrior superiority. They lead the world in every way. I and many others consider Wakanda to be the jewel Nation of earth.
Remove S.W.OR.D. S.H.E.I.L.D. and the Avengers.
Attilan and Wakanda are the last strong hold and protectors of earth. With the actual skill might to do so.
BlackBolt and the Inhuman Nation set themselves above humans and consider the earth as a sovereign onto themselves.
While Wakanda is the Nation thats act like the elder sibling and is responsible for showing the rest of their siblings the way without having to conquer[/QUOTE]
This would mean that Wakanda and BP would be Formidable and compelling. This would mean exploring Afro futurism. Can't have that! But Oscar worthy 12 years a chump and rape camps sales!!! <shrugs>
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2205822]Yeah no. Your Protag sucking this hard cannot be justified by being a noob.[/QUOTE]
[B]I'm not on any sides for one,i was simply giving reasons for why we don't know as the readers. Which it can be expanded upon and really Coates Being a noob could be a reason to it as he said in interviews things didn't transition as well as he hoped. That's a noob writing mistake.[/B]
[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205915]Here's the thing... if the way they found out was known to the government, then the government is willingly turning a blind eye, which makes them corrupt.
But if they have a way that ISN'T known to the government, then the MA are hypocrites for not TELLING anyone this was going on.
Lose-lose, I think.[/QUOTE]
[B]Who knows it could be the point, they are being hypocritical. Its likely that Coates or whoever will explain that the Royal family had so many fires going to on and trying to be everywhere at once at the pleas nade it possibly to the MA and instead of telling the Royal family, decided to handle it herself. But it doesn't necessarily mean they knew for a long time unless they were told. Right now no one except Coates knows the answer [/B]
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205915]Here's the thing... if the way they found out was known to the government, then the government is willingly turning a blind eye, which makes them corrupt.
But if they have a way that ISN'T known to the government, then the MA are hypocrites for not TELLING anyone this was going on.
Lose-lose, I think.[/QUOTE]
Considering it's a chieftan that was the actual perpetrator, then I think it was sort of a given that local government at least was corrupt.
But as far as the MA's being hypocrites... essentially that was the point of Ramondas sentence. They were enforcers of the law acting unlawfully to punish someone for acting unlawfully. Inherently there's a degree of hypocrisy there. There were proper lawful ways of handling that situation... murdering the guy in cold blood, regardless of whether or not he deserved it, clearly wasn't it. I presume there are proper channels for the Dora to go through, but she clearly didn't want to go that route.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2205831]Just checked the top 10 bestsellers list in Comixology. BP #4 is the only Marvel book besides Civil War to be in the top 10. DC is killing it right now.
[IMG]https://s31.postimg.org/jfg2clwnf/comix_digital_BP_sales.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That's cuz of the re-birth event. DC's learning the wrong lessen from Marvel in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2206002]That's cuz of the re-birth event. DC's learning the wrong lessen from Marvel in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Nu52 was like that.......
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205915]Here's the thing... if the way they found out was known to the government, then the government is willingly turning a blind eye, which makes them corrupt.
[B]But if they have a way that ISN'T known to the government, then the MA are hypocrites for not TELLING anyone this was going on.[/B]
Lose-lose, I think.[/QUOTE]
The Tribal Government was corrupt, that much was stated. Which would be why offical channels didn't work. Somebody (a victim or a friend or relative of a one of them) tipped the MA.
Whatever the Doras exact mandate was (they are more like the Secret Service than Cops, IMO) offing the chieftain outright wasn't it.
The MA could have reported the Chieftain's wrongdoings to the Throne but they didn't. The idea that their status doesn't allow them to just
off folks outright (even if they deserve it) somehow escaped them. Because they were pissed most likely.
The MA aren't just hypocrites, they are murdering hypocrites. They don't even have the self-defense argument to fall back on, because they weren't
attacked until AFTER they had killed that Chieftain.
Which was what Ramonda was trying to tell them. But they are too much into their "We are rightous, so nothing we do is wrong" mode to get the point.
Because super hero comics are full of vigilantes(who you are supposed to root for), it might be odd to see somebody use a real
world argument [B]against[/B] vigilantism and [B]for[/B] rule of law for once.
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[font=georgia]Was shootin' the Panther **** on IG the other day and made me curious to what the experts here favorite period(s) (artist and/or writer) of Black Pather is.
Kirby's book, Don McGregor, Billy Graham (RIP) on Jungle Action (thumbsup) the 3-issue Marvel Premier, Dennis Cowan did the art on a MCP arc that I JUST got to reading, Priest, Hudlin or other. I was out of comics when CP was doing Panther and them joints are damn tough to find out there (I've only snagged a couple) but far as I can tell nobody dislikes the work he did, which is quite the rarity. Didn't mean to bust up the flow, I've collected the Coates book so far but have yet to read any of them... per you all here sounds like I'm saving myself some frustrations. [/font]
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;2207083]The Tribal Government was corrupt, that much was stated. Which would be why offical channels didn't work. Somebody (a victim or a friend or relative of a one of them) tipped the MA.
Whatever the Doras exact mandate was (they are more like the Secret Service than Cops, IMO) offing the chieftain outright wasn't it.
The MA could have reported the Chieftain's wrongdoings to the Throne but they didn't. The idea that their status doesn't allow them to just
off folks outright (even if they deserve it) somehow escaped them. Because they were pissed most likely.
The MA aren't just hypocrites, they are murdering hypocrites. They don't even have the self-defense argument to fall back on, because they weren't
attacked until AFTER they had killed that Chieftain.
Which was what Ramonda was trying to tell them. But they are too much into their "We are rightous, so nothing we do is wrong" mode to get the point.
Because super hero comics are full of vigilantes(who you are supposed to root for), it might be odd to see somebody use a real
world argument [B]against[/B] vigilantism and [B]for[/B] rule of law for once.[/QUOTE]
Interesting post.
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[B][I]Originally posted by Ture via HEF[/I][/B]
[B][SIZE=5]Ta-Nehisi Coates Will Not Be Involved in 'Black Panther' Film
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[img]https://www.colorlines.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_lead_normal/public/images/articles/2016/08/ta-nehisi-coates-now-102215.jpg?itok=8T65XGHW×tamp=1470071363[/img]
[B][SIZE=4]"Coogler's a genius. (Did you see 'Creed'?) I would only eff his isht up," the author and journalist tweeted during a Twitter Q&A on July 30.
Sameer Rao AUG 1, 2016 1:09PM EDT
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full article
[url=https://www.colorlines.com/articles/ta-nehisi-coates-will-not-be-involved-black-panther-film]https://www.colorlines.com/articles/ta-nehisi-coates-will-not-be-involved-black-panther-film[/url]
But it's okay for him to eff up the BP mythos via the comicbooks? :smh:
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[QUOTE=Victor Freeman;2204659]T'challa ahead on Points?[/QUOTE]
Pyrrhic Victory.
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;2205915]Here's the thing... if the way they found out was known to the government, then the government is willingly turning a blind eye, which makes them corrupt.
But if they have a way that ISN'T known to the government, then the MA are hypocrites for not TELLING anyone this was going on.
Lose-lose, I think.[/QUOTE]
It was set up to make T'Challa and the Royal Family look inept so that this story could move forward. Success.