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[QUOTE=XPac;3750572] Again, I thin the point is to not just put the stuff out around the movie but to at least TRY and get more content out there regularly. Whether or not it actually sticks remains to be seen.[/QUOTE]
Again, the point is that the mismanaged the whole thing.
Single issues don't mean poop.
Rise TPB should have been on Amazon before the movie even release.
A Okoye focused with big names book should have been next up on the list.
Long Live the King shouldn't have been released anywhere near the movie.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750666]Again, the point is that the mismanaged the whole thing.
Single issues don't mean poop.
Rise TPB should have been on Amazon before the movie even release.
A Okoye focused with big names book should have been next up on the list.
Long Live the King shouldn't have been released anywhere near the movie.[/QUOTE]
I think there's a logic to putting out Rise while the movie is out. For anyone new interested in the Black Panther from the movies, it sort of gives readers backstory for the character. And it's easier to jump into than the main title, which was sort of in the middle of a story.
And the timing of the Dora book probably needed to coincide a bit with what was happening with the main title. THe Doras didn't fully get back on the same page with T'CHalla until the end of the second season (though the MA were already working with him in the middle of it). So it sort of makes sense that Wakanda Forever would take place after the second season of Coates book ends.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3750688]I think there's a logic to putting out Rise while the movie is out. For anyone new interested in the Black Panther from the movies, it sort of gives readers backstory for the character. And it's easier to jump into than the main title, which was sort of in the middle of a story.
[/QUOTE]
No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
Admittedly movies don't increase floppy sales and likely won't. That said, I can understand the rationale of putting new reader friendly books on the shelves anyways. It just makes sense to make the effort.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3750770]Admittedly movies don't increase floppy sales and likely won't. That said, I can understand the rationale of putting new reader friendly books on the shelves anyways. It just makes sense to make the effort.[/QUOTE]
New reader trades make the most sense.
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butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video]
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750779]New reader trades make the most sense.[/QUOTE]
If you're new anyways, then it really doesn't matter if a trade is new or not. It's new to you. So for a new reader picking up Hudlins first trade isn't all that different from picking up Rise.
But yes, there should be trades available as well. And I believe they do that.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
While I tend to agree, I do think it can get comic fans who aren't necessarily Black Panther fans to check out a book that did well in a movie. I think Iron Man got a boost from the movies, for example.
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3750799]butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video][/QUOTE]
I'd pay to watch this. :cool:
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the retailers going nuts over that 100 pager from DC.
The Wakanda Forever book comes out in November as trade. The only thing Panther linked is MBJ's Creed 2-so maybe Killmonger is going show up.
Other than that the only other thing Panther that comes out is Jordan's Hot Toys Killmonger figure.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;3750839]Tell that to the retailers going nuts over that 100 pager from DC.
The Wakanda Forever book comes out in November as trade. The only thing Panther linked is MBJ's Creed 2-so maybe Killmonger is going show up.
Other than that the only other thing Panther that comes out is Jordan's Hot Toys Killmonger figure.[/QUOTE]
The new avengers season should be out this fall. That would be a good spot for a side book.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3750831]While I tend to agree, I do think it can get comic fans who aren't necessarily Black Panther fans to check out a book that did well in a movie. I think Iron Man got a boost from the movies, for example.[/QUOTE]
I don't think those fans are goign to check out a Lexus Advertisement disquised as a comic or a digital only book with terrible art though.
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Prince N'jobo doesn't give a FRAK about Wakanda any more...
First he becomes a radicalized black militant turned traitor to Wakanda and now he's helping another government research Predator technology!
I'm done with dude! :D
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And now, for something COMPLETELY different:
King T'Challa: Old woman!
Erik: Man.
King T'Challa: Man, sorry. What tribe lives in that mountain over there?
Erik: I'm 37.
King T'Challa: What?
Erik: I'm 37. I'm not old.
King T'Challa: Well I can't just call you "man".
Erik: Well you could say "Erik".
King T'Challa: I didn't know you were called Erik.
Erik: Well you didn't bother to find out, did you?
King T'Challa: I did say sorry about the "old woman", but from behind you looked...
Erik: What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior.
King T'Challa: Well, I am king.
Erik: Oh, king eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever gonna be any progress...
Malice: Erik! There's some lovely ore down here... Oh! How do you do?
[Erik joins Malice in the nearby ore pit]
King T'Challa: How do you do, good lady? I am T'Challa, king of the Wakandas. Whose mountain is that?
Malice: King of the who?
King T'Challa: The Wakandas.
Malice: Who're the "Wakandas"?
King T'Challa: Well, we all are. We're all Wakandan, and I am your king.
Malice: Well, I didn't vote for you.
King T'Challa: You don't vote for kings.
Malice: Well, how'd you become king, then?
[Tribal music plays...]
King T'Challa: The Panther God, her pelt coated in the deepest midnight, took me to her Pavillion after I took the heart-shaped herb, signifying by divine providence that I, T'Challa, was to carry the mantle of Black Panther. That is why I am your king.
Erik: Listen. Strange felines lying in pavillions distributing tights is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical botanical ceremony.
T'Challa: Be quiet!
Erik: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some furry tart threw a suit at you!
T'Challa: Shut up!
Erik: I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some fuzzy bint had lobbed a costume at me, they'd put me away!
T'Challa: [grabs Erik] Shut up! Will you shut up?!
Erik: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
T'Challa: [shakes Erik] Shut up!
Erik: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
T'Challa: Bloody Colonizer!
Erik: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750976]I don't think those fans are goign to check out a Lexus Advertisement disquised as a comic or a digital only book with terrible art though.[/QUOTE]
Oh, no, probably not. I thought we were talking about Rise.
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3750799]butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video][/QUOTE]
I’m gonna need to see a fan film of this. Like now.
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[I]Flex,
That was one of your funniest ever posts. I hope Butterkisses takes it in good humor. Thank you for making me laugh today![/I]
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750976]I don't think those fans are goign to check out a Lexus Advertisement disquised as a comic or a digital only book with terrible art though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but we were talking about floppies in the story... so that's Rise, not the Lexus car thing.
And I think Rise had a descent chance of attracting the attention of a non-BP comic reader who might have liked the movie. Again, it was worth a shot.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3750410]4.99 is a lot to ask for a book about supporting characters. Nnedi is going to have to be a 10/10 for this to work. Her first BP run was average, but her sci-fi work is good.[/QUOTE]
I expect something decently written but probably not something we are exactly the target audience for to be honest..
[QUOTE=Cville;3750477]They tried that he Klaws of the Panther. And that was with the normal amount of pages.[/QUOTE]
Very Tru, but that failed imo because art was awful & the writing worse.. JM had already burned his bridge with the vast majority of real BP/Wakanda/Shuri & etc fans at that point with failwar & and that trash he wrote in that age of Heroes/heroic age mini.. matter of fact he burned the bridge covered in concrete and then lay asphalt on top of that lol
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[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3751192]Very Tru, but that failed imo because art was awful & the writing worse.. JM had already burned his bridge with the vast majority of real BP/Wakanda/Shuri & etc fans at that point with failwar & and that trash he wrote in that age of Heroes/heroic age mini.. matter of fact he burned the bridge covered in concrete and then lay asphalt on top of that lol[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]The real funny part was thinking that having Wolverine in the book was going to make it a huge seller.
Total dud.
[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3751209][COLOR="#000080"]The real funny part was thinking that having Wolverine in the book was going to make it a huge seller.
Total dud.
[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Spider-Man was up in there too. The concept was solid, but the art was "what is this". Also I remember JM giving Shuri and anger management problem. She was threatening to kill everyone. lol. This from the man who made her a Paris Hilton type before she took on the mantle. lol
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Since we're on the subject of that area, does anyone else think it would have worked better story wise if they had left Tchalla in the coma and let Shuri have solo star status until "Man without Fear" started?
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[QUOTE=Cville;3751238]Since we're on the subject of that area, does anyone else think it would have worked better story wise if they had left Tchalla in the coma and let Shuri have solo star status until "Man without Fear" started?[/QUOTE]
I think in some ways it would have made for sense, as far as Shuri getting the throne. Because T'Challa recovered from his coma, I honestly felt it was unnecessary to strip T'Challa of the Black Panther mantle. I can understand having Shuri act as a temporary ruler, but given T'Challa was up and about fairly quickly it didn't seem necessary.
That said, it's always a HUGE risk to bench the lead character of a book. It's safer to just keep T'Challa around, as there will always be understandable resentment whenever a main character is replaced.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750520]I am just not 100% sure who this book is for.
On the surface, it looks like a book they hope ends up on the Amazon GN list. movie Okoye front and center and backed up by the bigger groups at Marvel (Spider-man, X-men, Avengers) with a dose of LGBT representation.
but if that is the case... why the hell wasn't this made 4 months ago?
How can a company this large have no foresight whatsoever?
By the time this is out, Black Panther movie is going to be two MCU movies away. Three comic book movies away. By the time it hits Amazon in a trade, people are gonna forget Black Panther movie existed.
The completely mismanaged BP comics in relation to the movie.[/QUOTE]
No one is going to forget the Black Panther movie, zero.
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3750799]butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video][/QUOTE]
[B]Why don't you have a BP ongoing already??[/B]
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3750985]And now, for something COMPLETELY different:
King T'Challa: Old woman!
Erik: Man.
King T'Challa: Man, sorry. What tribe lives in that mountain over there?
Erik: I'm 37.
King T'Challa: What?
Erik: I'm 37. I'm not old.
King T'Challa: Well I can't just call you "man".
Erik: Well you could say "Erik".
King T'Challa: I didn't know you were called Erik.
Erik: Well you didn't bother to find out, did you?
King T'Challa: I did say sorry about the "old woman", but from behind you looked...
Erik: What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior.
King T'Challa: Well, I am king.
Erik: Oh, king eh? Very nice. And how'd you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever gonna be any progress...
Malice: Erik! There's some lovely ore down here... Oh! How do you do?
[Erik joins Malice in the nearby ore pit]
King T'Challa: How do you do, good lady? I am T'Challa, king of the Wakandas. Whose mountain is that?
Malice: King of the who?
King T'Challa: The Wakandas.
Malice: Who're the "Wakandas"?
King T'Challa: Well, we all are. We're all Wakandan, and I am your king.
Malice: Well, I didn't vote for you.
King T'Challa: You don't vote for kings.
Malice: Well, how'd you become king, then?
[Tribal music plays...]
King T'Challa: The Panther God, her pelt coated in the deepest midnight, took me to her Pavillion after I took the heart-shaped herb, signifying by divine providence that I, T'Challa, was to carry the mantle of Black Panther. That is why I am your king.
Erik: Listen. Strange felines lying in pavillions distributing tights is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical botanical ceremony.
T'Challa: Be quiet!
Erik: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some furry tart threw a suit at you!
T'Challa: Shut up!
Erik: I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some fuzzy bint had lobbed a costume at me, they'd put me away!
T'Challa: [grabs Erik] Shut up! Will you shut up?!
Erik: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
T'Challa: [shakes Erik] Shut up!
Erik: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
T'Challa: Bloody Colonizer!
Erik: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?[/QUOTE]
[B]That had nore substance about being King and government then the entirety of Coates S1[/B]
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[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3751192]I expect something decently written but probably not something we are exactly the target audience for to be honest..
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You have Spider-Man & X-Men in it. This book is more about selling those ladies than anything else. How do you do that you show them with "popular" characters.
And when Black Panther 2 comes out you can package this, WOW, Crew and the stealth Storm series as BP: World of Wakanda collection for about $40.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3751402][B]That had nore substance about being King and government then the entirety of Coates S1[/B][/QUOTE]
I should mention that this is an adaptation of a funny bit from [I]Monty Python & the Holy Grail[/I]:
[video=youtube;eKIyVnoZDdQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIyVnoZDdQ[/video]
Still fits, tho. :D
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3751209][COLOR="#000080"]The real funny part was thinking that having Wolverine in the book was going to make it a huge seller.
Total dud.
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I've been with Marvel used to do that back then throw Logan & partner everything think now we just have wait for monies to pile up..
[QUOTE=Cville;3751225]Spider-Man was up in there too. The concept was solid, but the art was "what is this". Also I remember JM giving Shuri and anger management problem. She was threatening to kill everyone. lol. This from the man who made her a Paris Hilton type before she took on the mantle. lol[/QUOTE]
Everything about KOP was awful imo from the concept to the art, to the writing to the editing to the inking on the page..
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Would the technique of partnering up new/supporting characters with big names work better if you put them in the bigger stars solo book instead of making a mini-series?
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[QUOTE=Cville;3751238]Since we're on the subject of that area, does anyone else think it would have worked better story wise if they had left Tchalla in the coma and let Shuri have solo star status until "Man without Fear" started?[/QUOTE]
No that would work any better Imo.. What they should done was after T'Challa leave Wakanda & go another "world tour" while building up is confrontation with Doom. An issue with Cage, DocV, Sam W, Mercedes, WM, Spectrum, another with the F4, & Avengers & and saving the best for last the African Congress of superheroes, while having Shuri do a "nation tour/assess the nation" would have been a good time to check on the QDJ & Jabari tribe, show the dinosaurs again, Lion tribe, serpent tribe & etc tribes. I haven't Shuri trying to get the various tribes/leaders to work together due to the externals/internal attacks from Outsiders & etc. That's a 6-8 issues arc atleast would be better than random 1 arm Dora & the rest of the random pride.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3751502]Would the technique of partnering up new/supporting characters with big names work better if you put them in the bigger stars solo book instead of making a mini-series?[/QUOTE]
More than likely imo..
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[QUOTE=Cville;3751502]Would the technique of partnering up new/supporting characters with big names work better if you put them in the bigger stars solo book instead of making a mini-series?[/QUOTE]
As far as giving them larger exposure, probably. But this perhaps is a way of guaging the interest level in these characters.
And it probably also gives them more space to give them spotlight. In someone else's book, they might not get as much development as they would in their own book.
Ideally, you want both though. Give the Doras their own mini and maybe have them do some high profile appearances here and there too.
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Let's be blunt here... new characters almost never catch on. But Marvel & DC keep trying.
Remember when they tried to make Hit-Monkey a thing?
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3751536]Let's be blunt here... new characters almost never catch on. But Marvel & DC keep trying.
Remember when they tried to make Hit-Monkey a thing?[/QUOTE]
Yep I do.. one when they had Monkey king/not really monkey King takeover war machines book for an arc..
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3751536]Let's be blunt here... new characters almost never catch on. But Marvel & DC keep trying.
Remember when they tried to make Hit-Monkey a thing?[/QUOTE]
I have his first appearance. Its worth $8 on some online stores. lol
I liked the character overall. They tried him out in Suicide Kings with SM, DP, and DD
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3750799]butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/vid[/QUOTE]
lolol this was funny but nevertheless a grossly inaccurate fanfic of what would happen per 616:
1. first the collar thing wouldnt work because a collar cant strip ororo from what is her birthright:
[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pC4gyzZuOWY/WsVvSgjls0I/AAAAAAAAEVA/P4pPUT7gCXgfSTfVLZFkZ4olQ77Miv_YACHMYCw/s1600/RCO006.jpg[/img]
[img]https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56754/6387128-rco020.jpg[/img]
2. and lastly you may want to believe nakia is about that life but she isnt. she had a chance to lay hands on ororo but she choked because she realized ororo is the TRUE Boss B!tch and she will never be Tchalla true love::
[img]https://static3.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/XMENWAKANDA2018001007-col-copy.jpg?q=35&w=450&h=683&fit=crop&dpr=1.5[/img]
her face in the last panel says it all:
#nakiawho?
#gurlrumad?
#howdatrainfeel?
#whenawomanrrealizehercrushupgraded
#goddessnonakiaisnot
#nakiacouldnever
#betchashecantdoitlikero
#shellneverbemunroe
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3751536]Let's be blunt here... new characters almost never catch on. But Marvel & DC keep trying.
Remember when they tried to make Hit-Monkey a thing?[/QUOTE]
True, but that's just a part of the creative process. Keep throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks. Sooner or later something will.0
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butterflykiss I applaud the effort but you are not a Jedi yet... :cool:
Storm: "Achoo!"
A kind elder on Wakanda's council hands Storm a tissue, a towel and a blanket to wipe her nose, dry and warm herself.
Storm: "This is a madhouse I tell you... I could have died from that fall! Would you please take these mutant power dampening bracelets off my wrists so that I may dry myself off of my own power!"
King T'challa: "I survived that fall myself it could have been worse... Nakia was working you something fierce why didn't you use your lock picking skills and remove the bracelets yourself?"
Storm: "Do you mean like think under pressure and all that contingency planning you do... That's not my schtick I usually just overwhelm opponents with my drastic WHOOSH powers and keep it moving!"
King T'challa: "Your inability to adapt also affects the sales of your ongoing comic as well as your movie verse background eye candy appearances... You seem to be a difficult character to depict once you take away your WHOOSH powers!"
Storm: "Ignore the outcome of this fight... COME BACK TO ME!"
King T'challa: "Wade, could you please break the fourth wall and tell her and her fan base the problem with that very statement!"
Deadpool: "That's just lazy writing!"
King T'challa: "Thanks Wade! I think I know a way that you might stay here in Wakanda and fulfill your unrealistic dreams of being queen of a people you could give two FRAKS about... Just speak the right words and you're in!"
Storm: "No fooling... If I say those magical words I have your word as king of Wakanda that I will be queen!"
King T'challa: "You have my word... Now say it loud and proudly so that all the elders can hear you clearly!"
Storm stands defiantly dropping the blanket, towel and tissue to the floor then clears her throat placing her left arm crossed over her right arm.
King T'challa: "It's right over left... But please continue!"
Storm corrects herself and prepares for the enunciation of her life...
Storm: "WOKE FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "Nope, try again!"
Storm: "WOLVERINE FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "You got the FOREVER part right and the first word does began with a W however... Nakia!"
Nakia arrives from behind the same curtain Storm had appeared earlier, stands at attention, crosses the right arm over left and...
Nakia: "WAKANDA FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "See how she does that without hesitation and without divided loyalties elsewhere! Wakanda needs a queen ready to lay her life down for it not someone who's mind is miles away at Xavier Mansion nursing baby mutants that overshadow her!"
Storm: "I can change I swear!"
King T'challa: "Right now you are like the old chick in da club trying to do the latest dances with these young folks and stay hip and relevant but even with the buyout of FOX by Disney this relationship is getting long in the tooth!"
Storm: "WIKIPEDIA FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "Just stop... To be honest I never freeze when I see you it's over BYE FELICIA!"
[video=youtube;q4xIqfLp_2s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xIqfLp_2s[/video]
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3751648]butterflykiss I applaud the effort but you are not a Jedi yet... :cool:
Storm: "Achoo!"
A kind elder on Wakanda's council hands Storm a tissue, a towel and a blanket to wipe her nose, dry and warm herself.
Storm: "This is a madhouse I tell you... I could have died from that fall! Would you please take these mutant power dampening bracelets off my wrists so that I may dry myself off of my own power!"
King T'challa: "I survived that fall myself it could have been worse... Nakia was working you something fierce why didn't you use your lock picking skills and remove the bracelets yourself?"
Storm: "Do you mean like think under pressure and all that contingency planning you do... That's not my schtick I usually just overwhelm opponents with my drastic WHOOSH powers and keep it moving!"
King T'challa: "Your inability to adapt also affects the sales of your ongoing comic as well as your movie verse background eye candy appearances... You seem to be a difficult character to depict once you take away your WHOOSH powers!"
Storm: "Ignore the outcome of this fight... COME BACK TO ME!"
King T'challa: "Wade, could you please break the fourth wall and tell her and her fan base the problem with that very statement!"
Deadpool: "That's just lazy writing!"
King T'challa: "Thanks Wade! I think I know a way that you might stay here in Wakanda and fulfill your unrealistic dreams of being queen of a people you could give two FRAKS about... Just speak the right words and you're in!"
Storm: "No fooling... If I say those magical words I have your word as king of Wakanda that I will be queen!"
King T'challa: "You have my word... Now say it loud and proudly so that all the elders can hear you clearly!"
Storm stands defiantly dropping the blanket, towel and tissue to the floor then clears her throat placing her left arm crossed over her right arm.
King T'challa: "It's right over left... But please continue!"
Storm corrects herself and prepares for the enunciation of her life...
Storm: "WOKE FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "Nope, try again!"
Storm: "WOLVERINE FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "You got the FOREVER part right and the first word does began with a W however... Nakia!"
Nakia arrives from behind the same curtain Storm had appeared earlier, stands at attention, crosses the right arm over left and...
Nakia: "WAKANDA FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "See how she does that without hesitation and without divided loyalties elsewhere! Wakanda needs a queen ready to lay her life down for it not someone who's mind is miles away at Xavier Mansion nursing baby mutants that overshadow her!"
Storm: "I can change I swear!"
King T'challa: "Right now you are like the old chick in da club trying to do the latest dances with these young folks and stay hip and relevant but even with the buyout of FOX by Disney this relationship is getting long in the tooth!"
Storm: "WIKIPEDIA FOREVER!"
King T'challa: "Just stop... To be honest I never freeze when I see you it's over BYE FELICIA!"
[video=youtube;q4xIqfLp_2s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xIqfLp_2s[/video][/QUOTE]
I'd pay to see this too. :cool: