[QUOTE=Cville;3750477]They tried that he Klaws of the Panther. And that was with the normal amount of pages.[/QUOTE]
There are so many X-men books that I don't really think they care about a book where they are background characters in.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3750477]They tried that he Klaws of the Panther. And that was with the normal amount of pages.[/QUOTE]
There are so many X-men books that I don't really think they care about a book where they are background characters in.
I am just not 100% sure who this book is for.
On the surface, it looks like a book they hope ends up on the Amazon GN list. movie Okoye front and center and backed up by the bigger groups at Marvel (Spider-man, X-men, Avengers) with a dose of LGBT representation.
but if that is the case... why the hell wasn't this made 4 months ago?
How can a company this large have no foresight whatsoever?
By the time this is out, Black Panther movie is going to be two MCU movies away. Three comic book movies away. By the time it hits Amazon in a trade, people are gonna forget Black Panther movie existed.
The completely mismanaged BP comics in relation to the movie.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750520]I am just not 100% sure who this book is for.
On the surface, it looks like a book they hope ends up on the Amazon GN list. movie Okoye front and center and backed up by the bigger groups at Marvel (Spider-man, X-men, Avengers) with a dose of LGBT representation.
but if that is the case... why the hell wasn't this made 4 months ago?
How can a company this large have no foresight whatsoever?
By the time this is out, Black Panther movie is going to be two MCU movies away. Three comic book movies away. By the time it hits Amazon in a trade, people are gonna forget Black Panther movie existed.
The completely mismanaged BP comics in relation to the movie.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, 4 months ago they had now many Black Panther books out there? Obviously the main title I addition to Rise of the Black Panther. And I think around that time they had Once and Future King and that Lexus Cart mini. I think they want to try and put out a lot of Black Panther related material, but if they put too much out all at one time it starts competing with itself. So there's a logic in spreading it out a little.
I think the idea is to just keep on pumping out Black Panther stuff, rather than putting it out there just around the movie.
[QUOTE=XPac;3750529]The thing is, 4 months ago they had now many Black Panther books out there? Obviously the main title I addition to Rise of the Black Panther. And I think around that time they had Once and Future King and that Lexus Cart mini. I think they want to try and put out a lot of Black Panther related material, but if they put too much out all at one time it starts competing with itself. So there's a logic in spreading it out a little.
I think the idea is to just keep on pumping out Black Panther stuff, rather than putting it out there just around the movie.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and those books were F'ing stupid lol.
One was a car add and the other focused on T'challa's friend and was digital only.
That is what I am saying. Marvel's foresight management of the property is embarrassing.
"It is movie time! Let's do digitial car ad book and a digital only book with terrible art about T'challa's long lost friend that never existed until now! That is sure to hook in new people and get them to buy black panther books in the future!"
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750558]Yeah, and those books were F'ing stupid lol.
One was a car add and the other focused on T'challa's friend and was digital only.
That is what I am saying. Marvel's foresight management of the property is embarrassing.
"It is movie time! Let's do digitial car ad book and a digital only book with terrible art about T'challa's long lost friend that never existed until now! That is sure to hook in new people and get them to buy black panther books in the future!"[/QUOTE]
It's that in addition to the main solo book and Rise of the Black Panther. With 2 BP books already on the shelves, the digital only stuff was arguably just icing on the cake.
I think having 2 BP books on the shelf at the same time is probably the right number. 3 would be pushing it. So they probably waited until Rise was over to give another BP related book a shot. And when they're done with Wakanda Forever, they'll probably try something else. Again, I thin the point is to not just put the stuff out around the movie but to at least TRY and get more content out there regularly. Whether or not it actually sticks remains to be seen.
[QUOTE=XPac;3750572] Again, I thin the point is to not just put the stuff out around the movie but to at least TRY and get more content out there regularly. Whether or not it actually sticks remains to be seen.[/QUOTE]
Again, the point is that the mismanaged the whole thing.
Single issues don't mean poop.
Rise TPB should have been on Amazon before the movie even release.
A Okoye focused with big names book should have been next up on the list.
Long Live the King shouldn't have been released anywhere near the movie.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750666]Again, the point is that the mismanaged the whole thing.
Single issues don't mean poop.
Rise TPB should have been on Amazon before the movie even release.
A Okoye focused with big names book should have been next up on the list.
Long Live the King shouldn't have been released anywhere near the movie.[/QUOTE]
I think there's a logic to putting out Rise while the movie is out. For anyone new interested in the Black Panther from the movies, it sort of gives readers backstory for the character. And it's easier to jump into than the main title, which was sort of in the middle of a story.
And the timing of the Dora book probably needed to coincide a bit with what was happening with the main title. THe Doras didn't fully get back on the same page with T'CHalla until the end of the second season (though the MA were already working with him in the middle of it). So it sort of makes sense that Wakanda Forever would take place after the second season of Coates book ends.
[QUOTE=XPac;3750688]I think there's a logic to putting out Rise while the movie is out. For anyone new interested in the Black Panther from the movies, it sort of gives readers backstory for the character. And it's easier to jump into than the main title, which was sort of in the middle of a story.
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No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
Admittedly movies don't increase floppy sales and likely won't. That said, I can understand the rationale of putting new reader friendly books on the shelves anyways. It just makes sense to make the effort.
[QUOTE=XPac;3750770]Admittedly movies don't increase floppy sales and likely won't. That said, I can understand the rationale of putting new reader friendly books on the shelves anyways. It just makes sense to make the effort.[/QUOTE]
New reader trades make the most sense.
butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video]
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750779]New reader trades make the most sense.[/QUOTE]
If you're new anyways, then it really doesn't matter if a trade is new or not. It's new to you. So for a new reader picking up Hudlins first trade isn't all that different from picking up Rise.
But yes, there should be trades available as well. And I believe they do that.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
While I tend to agree, I do think it can get comic fans who aren't necessarily Black Panther fans to check out a book that did well in a movie. I think Iron Man got a boost from the movies, for example.
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3750799]butterflykiss why would you do that to yourself... :cool:
Fasten your seatbelts this ride might get a bit bumpy...
Warrior Falls.
The elders along with many of Wakanda's faithful gathered to witness this rare event.
Members from every tribe took standing room only positions up and down the waterfall in fact Kimoyo beads displayed the digital layout for all to see in even the most remote locations of Wakanda.
Festivals were put on hold, important appointments delayed just to see the final outcome of this contest.
Nakia stood firm yet nervous knowing full well what she had gotten herself into but she was Wakandan and Wakandans don't run from a fight no matter who it is.
Her opponent was none other than the X-men's Storm who started this whole mess with one statement just moments ago...
Storm: "I'm exercising my right as a sidepiece to challenge for Queen of Wakanda!"
At first the elders scoffed at the idea of an "outsider" challenging for the right to be queen but then the king himself said...
King T'challa: "Awright Bet!"
So here they were two warrior women ready to duel for the right to rule Wakanda alongside the very man that they both loved.
Nakia ran through her various contingency plans of what she would do when facing a super powered being that could control weather.
Could she dodge lightning, outmaneuver the mighty vacuum of a tornado or stay anaerobically engaged if the very wind in her lungs was snatched from her violently.
Damn, why didn't she pay attention way back when T'challa was teaching her the weaknesses of the various X-men instead of staring into his pretty brown eyes so long ago.
In her heart she knew that if this lead to her death she would go out on her shield for the man that she loved and the country that she held so dear.
Her thoughts were interrupted by the all too familiar sound of drums beating and waves of Wakandan citizens doing that tribal dance arms crossed in salute.
Storm stood at a distance feet ankle deep in the water smiling wickedly at Nakia as lightning raced through her now turning from blue to white eyes as the skies over Wakanda darkened above them.
Nakia braced for what would be an electrically shocking impact when suddenly...
King T'challa: "The power of the Storm Goddess shall now be stripped away!"
Storm: "Wait... What!"
King T'challa placed two clamping bracelets upon Storm's wrists and suddenly the weather went from 0-100 to a really nice sunny day with a light cool breeze.
Storm: "You had mutant dampening bracelets all this time... YOU BASTARD!!!"
King T'challa: "You know me it's how I do... You want a spear or a shield or something?"
Storm: "I can't use no spear you FRAKKING primitive savages this isn't fair!"
Meanwhile, Nakia who was all smiles now started stretching, running in place and shadow boxing with a renewed energy.
Nakia: "I have been waiting for this moment my entire life!"
King T'challa: "HEY!"
Nakia: "My bad... Too soon!"
King T'challa: "Let the challenge begin."
Nakia dropkicks Storm and just straight beats her down Fifth Ward Geto Boys style with little or no resistance and stops for a moment to look up and catch the eye of one of Storm's most loyal fans who snuck in past W'kabi's terrible border protection plan that somehow can't prevent single engine prop planes from landing... butterflykiss!
Whomp!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Smack!
Nakia: "Is this your queen?"
Whack!
Nakia: "Storm Goddess... Supposed to lead the X-men into the future... The Headmistress... Can't keep a solo comic ongoing... Wolverine's break in case of emergency chick!"
butterflykiss catches pheelings real quick and tears up seeing his idol powerless to defend herself...
butterflykiss: "C'mon Storm Goddess get up!"
Nakia takes Storm over the shoulder in a fireman's carry and tosses her with her silvery white haired weave dangling over the falls splashing below.
Nakia: "NAW... I'm your queen now!"
[video=youtube;4Qn1eNonEH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qn1eNonEH4[/video][/QUOTE]
I'd pay to watch this. :cool:
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3750764]No new fan in this multiverse is going to a comic shop to look for a floppy.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the retailers going nuts over that 100 pager from DC.
The Wakanda Forever book comes out in November as trade. The only thing Panther linked is MBJ's Creed 2-so maybe Killmonger is going show up.
Other than that the only other thing Panther that comes out is Jordan's Hot Toys Killmonger figure.