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[QUOTE=Moose100;2870121]Maybe the force push came from the studios first...[/QUOTE] exactly did anybody notice if you look closely and watch the trailer in slow motion you can see people are wearing the communication beads
we might even see T'challa obtain the sprite spear ability to use against Thanos and the black order
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Damn, I didn't even catch the potential T'Challa intelligence nerfing
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Heck maybe its nothing but I am just saying I haven't heard Coogler, Chadwick or Feige say T'Challa is a Super Genius.
And they made a point in that EW article to emphasize it in regards to Shuri being on par with Iron Man.
But we should know in a 30-45 Days, you know assuming someone ask the right questions at D23 and/or SDCC.
I am just saying I will accept no nerfs of course these things never come out in the USA First....so one of our British Contingent should get a first look.
I know Mr. Majestik lives there but I am not sure about the rest of the Fam.
I don't mind the Force Push persay because its clear this T'Challa doesn't need to rely on it to beat grunts or even to beat up Bucky who is far above the level of Goon Slam Gary and other Random Assorted Thugs, Mercenaries and Traitors that T'Challa has struggled with.
And you know Cap kinda force pushed Thor in the first Avengers Movie.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2870272]Heck maybe its nothing but I am just saying I haven't heard Coogler, Chadwick or Feige say T'Challa is a Super Genius.
And they made a point in that EW article to emphasize it in regards to Shuri being on par with Iron Man.
But we should know in a 30-45 Days, you know assuming someone ask the right questions at D23 and/or SDCC.[/QUOTE]
[B]Who knows? But yeah the only way I'm okay with it is if it's a Lucius Fox situation Where Shuri designs Alot of the tech (Now) Because Tchalla is now King and doesn't have the time, but there should be a defining moment in the movie that solidifies that where as Shuri is brilliant and may Rival Tony, Tchalla IS the super genius above everyone else in Wakanda second to none. Even in the comics both are geniuses but that super part of it belongs to T'Challa..
Now if he isn't a super genius it's not as though I won't watch the movie and support it still, but I Will be sorely disappointed. Especially due to the heavy draw from Priest run and that is a Huge feat being taken away, as well as even Coates (bleh) was trying to focus on the scientist part of Tchalla, so it would make very little sense to take all of that and give it to Shuri, who hasn't displayed anything close to super genius status. [/B]
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Hmmm actually you make a good point in regards to Coates....maybe its much adieu about nothing.
But I am watching closely.
Yeah I guess a Fox situation is fine but I don't need T'Challa standing like slacked jawed idiot while Stark gets to do all the super science.
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Nice to hear Run the Jewels' song "Legend Has it" in the trailer
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2870221]Well I don't want to rain on the parade but I need one question answered is T'Challa still a Super Genius?
Because sorry Fam I think they took it from T'challa to give something to Shuri.....and I don't give one **** about Shuri.
They didn't nerf the white heroes to make their supporting cast look good and it shouldn't happen for T'challa to prop up a supporting cast member.
So if Coates infected Coogler then yeah I am not going to pay money to see Black Panther.
[URL="http://ew.com/movies/black-panther-trailer-decoded-marvel-ryan-coogler-kevin-feige/black-panther-trailer-30/"]For Reference[/URL]
So here we see Shuri compared to Iron Man...and I don't see a damn thing about T'Challa being on par.
I am not down for this BS at all. They want to make Shuri smarter fine whatever.
But this Franchise is about T'Challa you don't see Batman, Superman, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc taking such a massive hit to prop up their supporting cast members.
So I hope I am wrong but I am not so sure Coates and Coogler are too chummy for my liking.[/QUOTE]
Nolan's Batman basically did it with Lucius Fox. Took till TDKR to acknowledge him as a genius in his own right, IIRC.
I'm cool with Shuri being a genius so long as T'Challa is one too, even if it's her tech genius that gets the emphasis since he'll be dealing with more strategic/political things.
Ie, if she's the Valeria to his Reed Richards, I'm cool. If he's nerfed, I have issues.
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I was surprised by that song choice personally.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2870280]Hmmm actually you make a good point in regards to Coates....maybe its much adieu about nothing.
But I am watching closely.
Yeah I guess a Fox situation is fine but I don't need T'Challa standing like slacked jawed idiot while Stark gets to do all the super science.[/QUOTE]
If enough people say something there is plenty of time for reshoots. Think Justice League is about to do a bunch. If Coogler or Marvel has a BP twitter, light it up.
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Reshoots? I be good with some lines recordings done in post that said T'Challa made some of the tech.
If they want to make Shuri Q fine as long as T'Challa as a Super Genius is intact.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2870221]Well I don't want to rain on the parade but I need one question answered is T'Challa still a Super Genius?
Because sorry Fam I think they took it from T'challa to give something to Shuri.....and I don't give one **** about Shuri.
They didn't nerf the white heroes to make their supporting cast look good and it shouldn't happen for T'challa to prop up a supporting cast member.
So if Coates infected Coogler then yeah I am not going to pay money to see Black Panther.
[URL="http://ew.com/movies/black-panther-trailer-decoded-marvel-ryan-coogler-kevin-feige/black-panther-trailer-30/"]For Reference[/URL]
So here we see Shuri compared to Iron Man...and I don't see a damn thing about T'Challa being on par.
I am not down for this BS at all. They want to make Shuri smarter fine whatever.
But this Franchise is about T'Challa you don't see Batman, Superman, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc taking such a massive hit to prop up their supporting cast members.
So I hope I am wrong but I am not so sure Coates and Coogler are too chummy for my liking.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry you're not raining on mine because folks again want to be worried just cause the entire movie wasn't spelled out before the movie drops
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I enjoyed the trailer but we have to remember this character is not owned by black people. Theres always a catch when it comes to diversity involving black people especially black men when it's under white control. The inclusion of lgbt or feminism is always a setback when it comes to black characters. The female cast members appear to outnumber men from what I can tell when it comes to the good guys. Im okay if Shuri's smart but T'Challa should be smart just as well. His supporting cast shouldnt exceed him. If that was the case War Machine would be making his own armor and Falcon would have Super Soldier Serum but they don't, because they're not meant to be above Iron Man and Captain America. For right now all we can do is speculate but a deep part of me says that feminism will come into play when it comes to this film, sadly.
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I don't need the whole movie spelled out I need one core part of the character confirmed.
Eh well Historically the Women in Wakanda have tended to be most trustworthy then the guys nothing to do with feminism.
I am not sexist for the record. I just don't want T'Challa nerfed at all.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2870303]Don't worry you're not raining on mine because folks again want to be worried just cause the entire movie wasn't spelled out before the movie drops[/QUOTE]
[B]i don't want the whole movie spelled out for me.. but people have been literally wondering if Tchalla is a super genius since he was confirmed to be in CW... It's a very important trait he needs to keep[/B]
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2870221]Well I don't want to rain on the parade but I need one question answered is T'Challa still a Super Genius?
Because sorry Fam I think they took it from T'challa to give something to Shuri.....and I don't give one **** about Shuri.
They didn't nerf the white heroes to make their supporting cast look good and it shouldn't happen for T'challa to prop up a supporting cast member.
So if Coates infected Coogler then yeah I am not going to pay money to see Black Panther.
[URL="http://ew.com/movies/black-panther-trailer-decoded-marvel-ryan-coogler-kevin-feige/black-panther-trailer-30/"]For Reference[/URL]
So here we see Shuri compared to Iron Man...and I don't see a damn thing about T'Challa being on par.
I am not down for this BS at all. They want to make Shuri smarter fine whatever.
But this Franchise is about T'Challa you don't see Batman, Superman, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, etc taking such a massive hit to prop up their supporting cast members.
So I hope I am wrong but I am not so sure Coates and Coogler are too chummy for my liking.[/QUOTE]
i HOPE THAT doesnt happen but i have my concerns too.