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[QUOTE=MouserGrey;1742414]As if fictional Wakanda could stop real world problems. Why haven't Reed or Stark or Doom? Don't put too much responsibility on them, my brothers. There are no characters or societies in Marvel fiction that might not be accountable for modern or historical atrocities. What can be addressed are literary holes in Wakanda history as pertaining to universe 616 or whatever it is now called.[/QUOTE]
This is true, but the difference is you almost never see fans calling Richards, Stark, or any other superhero with vast resources "jerks" for not sharing all their breakthroughs with the rest of the world. Hell, people don't do that to actual people and nations with resources, in fact they do the opposite and given lectures to others about bootstraps.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1742496]This is true, but the difference is you almost never see fans calling Richards, Stark, or any other superhero with vast resources "jerks" for not sharing all their breakthroughs with the rest of the world. Hell, people don't do that to actual people and nations with resources, in fact they do the opposite and given lectures to others about bootstraps.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I think everyone's a jerk in comics for not doing more to change the world they live in. That being said, there is a major difference between doing good change when you're a hero living on a sliding time-scale, and being a country with a long history of technological superiority. Latveria gets one off because Doom is a twat of the highest order usually. Atlantis gets one off because they're under the sea but even then they should be doing everything to stop surface pollution so it's still on them. Richards, Stark, Pym, etc... all should be doing so much more and better than just simply creating gear to fight supervillains. Pym can make things giant. How much resource-scarcity could he address with that? Stark has the Arc reactor... electricity-poor areas, anyone? Richards builds ships that go into space, but he can't built a great high-speed monorail to connect all of the United States?
Etc...
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Right, but it seems a burden has been put on past writers to address historical problems that the writers themselves have nor had enough panel space to focus on. More can be written, but it will take someone committed to address the narative. I'm sure Coates has the historical acumen, but his initial arc is rooted in the 20th century. One thing I am interested in is his meta take on the 21st century. Whether or not it is another civil unrest story in Wakanda doesn't matter so much to me. I look at Wakanda as Gothem or New York as far as setting. It just needs more flesh and attention. Just as its centuries old history. Hell, it just deserves more attention. Maybe the mythos is at the junction where that finally will happen.
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[QUOTE=MouserGrey;1742583]Right, but it seems a burden has been put on past writers to address historical problems that the writers themselves have nor had enough panel space to focus on. More can be written, but it will take someone committed to address the narative. I'm sure Coates has the historical acumen, but his initial arc is rooted in the 20th century. One thing I am interested in is his meta take on the 21st century. Whether or not it is another civil unrest story in Wakanda doesn't matter so much to me. I look at Wakanda as Gothem or New York as far as setting. It just needs more flesh and attention. Just as its centuries old history. Hell, it just deserves more attention. Maybe the mythos is at the junction where that finally will happen.[/QUOTE]
The problem with addressing historical problems stems from altering the historical scenario in the first place. Think about it like this: If the Pope Rome had an army of automated Roman Legionnaires, but didn't send them on the Crusades, wouldn't you ask why not? Or if the Native-American had plasma muskets and robo-unicorns with which to fight off Western colonizers, would it be reasonable to say the Trail of Tears still happened?
Wakanda was fine before Hudlin's retcon, and it had no justifiable criticism to levy against it. It's only after with stuff like the cancer, the slavery deal and so on that people really jumped up and had something worth saying.
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Hasbro's Black Panther stuff for the movie.
[IMG]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/01/20/marvels-captain-america-civil-war-miniverse-25-inch-figure-2-pack-assortment-hawkeye-and-black-panther2jpg-0d7440_400w.jpg[/IMG]
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The new Marvel Legends Panther.
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[url]http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/01/21/hasbro-announces-captain-america-civil-war-figures?
utm_source=IGN+hub+page&utm_medium=IGN+%28front+page%29&utm_content=4&utm_campaign=Blogroll[/url]
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Yes....Toys...Merchandise.....movies.....cartoons.....front and center in Major Events...
We are here now!
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1742632]The problem with addressing historical problems stems from altering the historical scenario in the first place. Think about it like this: If the Pope Rome had an army of automated Roman Legionnaires, but didn't send them on the Crusades, wouldn't you ask why not? Or if the Native-American had plasma muskets and robo-unicorns with which to fight off Western colonizers, would it be reasonable to say the Trail of Tears still happened?
Wakanda was fine before Hudlin's retcon, and it had no justifiable criticism to levy against it. It's only after with stuff like the cancer, the slavery deal and so on that people really jumped up and had something worth saying.[/QUOTE]
Very true. Maybe Hudlin hoped for the best and that someone would pick up the slack. The same can be said for Hickman. Someone needs , and should see it as a huge opportunity, to make their mark on Marvel. Hudlin made the call, Hickman made a (warbly) pitch, another writer should read it and hit it out of the park by filling in blanks. I don't know how savvy editorial us, especially given the half asset connections any events have to any ongoing, but it wouldn't take a good writer much to slip in some good Wakanda stuff into the existing continuity. Such as it is now. Everything from ancient Atlantean connections, or Inhuman, or eternal, or any if the mythology based characters stories. 10,000 years is looonng time for Wakanda to have had an influence in the hands of a writer with the right kind of commitment.
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So looking at the Hasbro stuff he's making out rather well with the number of figures in that line.
Captain America: 4
Iron Man: 3
Black Widow: 2
Black Panther: 2
Falcon: 2
Winter Soldier: 1
Vision: 1
Hawkeye: 1
Scarlet Witch: 0
Agent 13: 0
Ant-Man: 0
Spider-Man: 0
Baron Zemo: 0
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1742357]Life raft is definitely up there and there is no ambiguity, except from haters, that it was all him. It was si good reed cimplimented and maker copied.
SW ending is more ambiguous.
I go with mephisto bc out tricking mephisto is like out tricking loki... its rare. Plus... it was bad ass as hell lol
And see wakanda and die is Tchalla at his finest.[/QUOTE]
[B]I still gotta say this, its probably safe to say that even now, T'Challa's best showings were in Priest's run.[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ekie;1742684]Yes....Toys...Merchandise.....movies.....cartoons.....front and center in Major Events...
We are here now![/QUOTE]
Now he just needs a consistent solo that holds over the cut line.
He is being primed for it. Finally getting the push the character deserves. Coates just has to deliver the good and editorial can't just say, "ok, did enough" as soon as the big comes out.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;1742383]I liked T'Challa's fight vs the Red Skull in Avengers Red Zone. His portrayal in the series had the right tone to it. And he [I]did[/I] break the Skull's jaw. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Even though I thought that fight was cool, and Geoffs overall wrote a great T'Challa... I actually didn't think that fight was a particularly great showing on his part. Honestly I thought Red Skill did a lot better than I expected that he would.
Red Skull may have Steve's physical stats (which should put him on par with T'Challa) but he shouldn't have Steve or T'Challa's skill. That plus T'Challa's vibranium suit (T'Challa at least took off the gloves to make a point) and honestly I think that fight probably should have been a bit more one sided in T'Challa's favor. I know Skull has h2h training, but I never though it was to that degree.
That nit pick aside, it was pretty cool seeing Skull get his jaw broke.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1743253]Even though I thought that fight was cool, and Geoffs overall wrote a great T'Challa... I actually didn't think that fight was a particularly great showing on his part. Honestly I thought Red Skill did a lot better than I expected that he would.
Red Skull may have Steve's physical stats (which should put him on par with T'Challa) but he shouldn't have Steve or T'Challa's skill. That plus T'Challa's vibranium suit (T'Challa at least took off the gloves to make a point) and honestly I think that fight probably should have been a bit more one sided in T'Challa's favor. I know Skull has h2h training, but I never though it was to that degree.
That nit pick aside, it was pretty cool seeing Skull get his jaw broke.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I actually agree with this. It was EPIC just for the "I am going to break your jaw" and then actually doing it.
But, fight wise, it was actually a low showing IMO. I don't have a problem with it because... that is comic books a lot of times. When people fight, whatever supposed physical stats kinda of equalize a bit (to an extent) just to make it interesting.
Similar to Black Dwarf actually. T'challa whooped his ass enough to send him running back to thanos like a whipped dog. Later in the story, he decimates the human Avengers he faces, and then is able to hold his own against 4? galactic heavy weights until Ronan smashed his skull. I know it seems T'challa got a power boost of sorts but... yeah lol. He shouldn't be able to hold his own against someone who can fight Gladiator, Ronan, Skrull King guy, and someone (Annihilus? can't remember) at the same time. Damn you hickman for putting that off panel (I think that may be my biggest hate of HIckman in the whole story).
Here is the whole Red Skull fight if some of you are forgetting. [url]http://www.mindofshadow.com/2014/05/13/comic-book-brawls-black-panther-vs-red-skull/[/url]
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1743266]Yeah, I actually agree with this. It was EPIC just for the "I am going to break your jaw" and then actually doing it.
But, fight wise, it was actually a low showing IMO. I don't have a problem with it because... that is comic books a lot of times. When people fight, whatever supposed physical stats kinda of equalize a bit (to an extent) just to make it interesting.
Similar to Black Dwarf actually. T'challa whooped his ass enough to send him running back to thanos like a whipped dog. Later in the story, he decimates the human Avengers he faces, and then is able to hold his own against 4? galactic heavy weights until Ronan smashed his skull. I know it seems T'challa got a power boost of sorts but... yeah lol. He shouldn't be able to hold his own against someone who can fight Gladiator, Ronan, Skrull King guy, and someone (Annihilus? can't remember) at the same time. Damn you hickman for putting that off panel (I think that may be my biggest hate of HIckman in the whole story).
Here is the whole Red Skull fight if some of you are forgetting. [url]http://www.mindofshadow.com/2014/05/13/comic-book-brawls-black-panther-vs-red-skull/[/url][/QUOTE]
The thing about the Black Dwarf fight is that you can't really say a whole lot about it, because it was off panel.
In my mind (and it's all just an educated guess on my part obviously) T'Challa probably just dodged all of Black Dwarfs hits. When T'Challa tried hitting back, he hurt his own hand (I believe he mentions a possible broken hand) because Black Dwarfs strength and durability were a few notches above his pay grade. So he switches to his energy daggers, which are able to penetrated the allegedly unbreakable skill of Black Dwarf, causing the bleeding we saw. Because T'Challa had a means of hurting Dward while being too fast for Dwarf to day a glove on him, he retreats.
Of course that's just a guess. For all I know in Hickmans mind T'Challa dropped a payload of Wakandan nukes on him and called it a day. It was all off panel so it's hard to say. All we can REALLY say is that T'Challa won, but he had a tough time of it.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1743373]The thing about the Black Dwarf fight is that you can't really say a whole lot about it, because it was off panel.
In my mind (and it's all just an educated guess on my part obviously) T'Challa probably just dodged all of Black Dwarfs hits. When T'Challa tried hitting back, he hurt his own hand (I believe he mentions a possible broken hand) because Black Dwarfs strength and durability were a few notches above his pay grade. So he switches to his energy daggers, which are able to penetrated the allegedly unbreakable skill of Black Dwarf, causing the bleeding we saw. Because T'Challa had a means of hurting Dward while being too fast for Dwarf to day a glove on him, he retreats.
Of course that's just a guess. For all I know in Hickmans mind T'Challa dropped a payload of Wakandan nukes on him and called it a day. It was all off panel so it's hard to say. All we can REALLY say is that T'Challa won, but he had a tough time of it.[/QUOTE]
such a missed opportunity :(
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1743390]such a missed opportunity :([/QUOTE]
That's why I've always felt that all big events should have an accompanying mini that shows the fights like AvX did (even though their AvX mini was rather poor in quality IMO). A book with just the fights which don't fit into the main book would be fun. And I THINK it would sell.
Showing an in-depth fight with Logan vs Corvus and T'Challa vs Black Dwarf would have been cool. Certainly it would have helped Secret Wars aspecially towards the end there where stuff was happening a mile a second.
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[QUOTE=MrHashasheen;1742527]Hey, I think everyone's a jerk in comics for not doing more to change the world they live in. That being said, there is a major difference between doing good change when you're a hero living on a sliding time-scale, and being a country with a long history of technological superiority. Latveria gets one off because Doom is a twat of the highest order usually. Atlantis gets one off because they're under the sea but even then they should be doing everything to stop surface pollution so it's still on them. Richards, Stark, Pym, etc... all should be doing so much more and better than just simply creating gear to fight supervillains. Pym can make things giant. How much resource-scarcity could he address with that? Stark has the Arc reactor... electricity-poor areas, anyone? Richards builds ships that go into space, but he can't built a great high-speed monorail to connect all of the United States?
Etc...[/QUOTE]
Two things: Hudlin himself addressed this in his Black Panther annual. There it was explictly stated that the only
way the Wakandans could fix things would be thru conquest which was morally repugnant to them.
If anything Hickman's FF run went by the premise that slacking Reed is a Reed that still does stuff with his family and still has a semblance of humanity. Its
when Reed starts actively trying to fix everything AND be a super hero that he's really a danger to....everyone.
Cuz he's not gonna wanna stop at high speed rail....
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T'Challa's best feat? I'd go with defeating Mephisto as well.
Not just because he defeated him, but the way he did it.
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[QUOTE=Holt;1742671]Hasbro's Black Panther stuff for the movie.
[IMG]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/01/20/marvels-captain-america-civil-war-miniverse-25-inch-figure-2-pack-assortment-hawkeye-and-black-panther2jpg-0d7440_400w.jpg[/IMG]
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The new Marvel Legends Panther.
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[url]http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/01/21/hasbro-announces-captain-america-civil-war-figures?
utm_source=IGN+hub+page&utm_medium=IGN+%28front+page%29&utm_content=4&utm_campaign=Blogroll[/url][/QUOTE]
I hope the 6 inch figure comes with extra hands
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[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1743417]Two things: Hudlin himself addressed this in his Black Panther annual. There it was explictly stated that the only
way the Wakandans could fix things would be thru conquest which was morally repugnant to them.[/QUOTE]
Correct. And the path of conquest can get very complicated in the long term, if not outright detrimental. For example, who knows if the neighboring countries / tribes would want Wakandans to conquer them (or even meddle in their affairs) for X amount of time? This could lead to resentment, which leads eventually to more conflict. This has happened in many occasions in history.
For Wakanda or country for that matter, fixing such problems across a region or even a continent, especially in a unilateral fashion, would be a never-ending endeavor. It wouldn't be worth it.
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[QUOTE=Holt;1742671]
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Hope that black panther add-on is coming soon in a movie theater near you:cool:
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Looking forward to trying the new Black Panther series when that starts in April.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1743452]T'Challa's best feat? I'd go with defeating Mephisto as well.
Not just because he defeated him, but the way he did it.[/QUOTE]
Yes. He tricked one of the ultimate tricksters.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1743373]The thing about the Black Dwarf fight is that you can't really say a whole lot about it, because it was off panel.
In my mind (and it's all just an educated guess on my part obviously) T'Challa probably just dodged all of Black Dwarfs hits. When T'Challa tried hitting back, he hurt his own hand (I believe he mentions a possible broken hand) because Black Dwarfs strength and durability were a few notches above his pay grade. So he switches to his energy daggers, which are able to penetrated the allegedly unbreakable skill of Black Dwarf, causing the bleeding we saw. Because T'Challa had a means of hurting Dward while being too fast for Dwarf to day a glove on him, he retreats.
Of course that's just a guess. For all I know in Hickmans mind T'Challa dropped a payload of Wakandan nukes on him and called it a day. It was all off panel so it's hard to say. All we can REALLY say is that T'Challa won, but he had a tough time of it.[/QUOTE]
[B]It was probably a combination of the Daggers, Claws, and possibly the energy gauntlets he used on Namor to lay into him. T'Challa wouldn't use bombs on BD, because if he did, they probably wouldn't have been able to escape and on top of that he would cause a ton of friendly fire. Especially going nuclear. It was probably like you said, wear T'challa dodged alot of his attacks because by the end of it, his habit is only slightly torn, showing he didn't take many hits. But in the battle of attrition, Tchalla held out longer. This had potential to be one of T'challa's best h2h showings to be added to his feat list and it was wasted opportunity.[/B]
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1743452]T'Challa's best feat? I'd go with defeating Mephisto as well.
Not just because he defeated him, but the way he did it.[/QUOTE]
I've been rereading the Priest run via the complete collection and I really like the way he managed to retain kingship while losing to Killmonger in battle and being forced to give up the title of Black Panther. That is some crafty ####.
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;1743567]I've been rereading the Priest run via the complete collection and I really like the way he managed to retain kingship while losing to Killmonger in battle and being forced to give up the title of Black Panther. That is some crafty ####.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, generally speaking Priest wrote the smartest Black Panther we've ever seen. And that just made everything he did, even the feats which on paper aren't quite the level of ripping out Mephisto's heart, seems so incredibly uber.
The way Priest wrote T'Challa, it just felt like T'Challe essentially won before any actual fight even started. He already figued out how to beat you, so the actual fight is just sort of a technicality.
I don't think any other writer was able to capture that sense from T'Challa to the same degree.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1743573]Yeah, generally speaking Priest wrote the smartest Black Panther we've ever seen. And that just made everything he did, even the feats which on paper aren't quite the level of ripping out Mephisto's heart, seems so incredibly uber.
The way Priest wrote T'Challa, it just felt like T'Challe essentially won before any actual fight even started. He already figued out how to beat you, so the actual fight is just sort of a technicality.
I don't think any other writer was able to capture that sense from T'Challa to the same degree.[/QUOTE]
[B]Which is a Shame, Granted its cool to see other aspects of T'Challa, Highlight, Like in Hudlin's take, or Liss showing how crafty T'Challa is despite lacking the vast resources of Wakanda. Ewing is giving us glimpses of that version of T'Challa which is a great start, hopefully Coates version will have those similar qualities that highlight the genius of one of the top 8 smartest people on earth [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1743671][B]Which is a Shame, Granted its cool to see other aspects of T'Challa, Highlight, Like in Hudlin's take, or Liss showing how crafty T'Challa is despite lacking the vast resources of Wakanda. Ewing is giving us glimpses of that version of T'Challa which is a great start, hopefully Coates version will have those similar qualities that highlight the genius of one of the top 8 smartest people on earth [/B][/QUOTE]
IDK, I think Liss's "Kingpin of Wakanda" was very Priest-like.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1743573]Yeah, generally speaking Priest wrote the smartest Black Panther we've ever seen. And that just made everything he did, even the feats which on paper aren't quite the level of ripping out Mephisto's heart, seems so incredibly uber.
The way Priest wrote T'Challa, it just felt like T'Challe essentially won before any actual fight even started. He already figued out how to beat you, so the actual fight is just sort of a technicality.
[B]I don't think any other writer was able to capture that sense from T'Challa to the same degree.[/B][/QUOTE]
I really don't think anyone else was trying to.
Priest's T'Challa really feels like an almost entirely different character from what we got before and what we've seen afterwards. I was hoping Coates would would be mostly inspired by that run so we could have got another T'Challa like that but he's all about Hickman unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1743679]IDK, I think Liss's "Kingpin of Wakanda" was very Priest-like.[/QUOTE]
Liss got the closest to it IMO as well (which is one of the reasons he was my fave BP run since Priest). Which is almost ironic considering on paper it was the character at his weakest. But I suppose he needed to be at his best mentally because he was in the situation he was in.
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1743689]I really don't think anyone else was trying to.
Priest's T'Challa really feels like an almost entirely different character from what we got before and what we've seen afterwards. I was hoping Coates would would be mostly inspired by that run so we could have got another T'Challa like that but he's all about Hickman unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
[B]Well there's Ewing, Only issue is that its a group book, so we will see the uber prep, just not the same way[/B]
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1743689]I really don't think anyone else was trying to.
Priest's T'Challa really feels like an almost entirely different character from what we got before and what we've seen afterwards. I was hoping Coates would would be mostly inspired by that run so we could have got another T'Challa like that but he's all about Hickman unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
He praised Priest just as much, so don't write him off.
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[QUOTE=Double 0;1743852]He praised Priest just as much, so don't write him off.[/QUOTE]
[B]Where do you see That?[/B]
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1743689]I really don't think anyone else was trying to.
Priest's T'Challa really feels like an almost entirely different character from what we got before and what we've seen afterwards. I was hoping Coates would would be mostly inspired by that run so we could have got another T'Challa like that but he's all about Hickman unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Double 0;1743852]He praised Priest just as much, so don't write him off.[/QUOTE]
Yep, exactly. If you caught some of his other writings on the subject, he brought up Priest and Hudlin.
Coates is doing his homework
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[QUOTE=Double 0;1743852]He praised Priest just as much, so don't write him off.[/QUOTE]
And no matter how some might want to insist otherwise Hickman's run clearly had a take on T'Challa that drew from Priest.
It's like people forget that Priest's run ended with T'Challa having an inoperable brain aneurysm and not actually being the rightful Black Panther (he lost the title to Killmonger). His version of Panther had a ton of cool moments but he also had a bunch of Pyrrhic victories.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1744039][B]Where do you see That?[/B][/QUOTE]
Not only did he bring him up on twitter, but do you honestly think that a guy who [URL="https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/680798889365102593"]agrees that The Crew was the most tragic premature cancellation in the history of comics[/URL], who's international known for essentially doing his homework, is going to ignore the most prolific Black Panther run?
And nevermind Coates, do you think Brian Stelfreeze will? That's even more doubtful.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1744092]And no matter how some might want to insist otherwise Hickman's run clearly had a take on T'Challa that drew from Priest.
It's like people forget that Priest's run ended with T'Challa having an inoperable brain aneurysm and not actually being the rightful Black Panther (he lost the title to Killmonger). His version of Panther had a ton of cool moments but he also had a bunch of Pyrrhic victories.[/QUOTE]
To one degree or another I think pretty much every modern BP writer drew from Priest. Or at least tried to. He's sort of what Frank Miller was to Daredevil.
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;1743689]I really don't think anyone else was trying to.
Priest's T'Challa really feels like an almost entirely different character from what we got before and what we've seen afterwards. I was hoping Coates would would be mostly inspired by that run so we could have got another T'Challa like that but he's all about Hickman unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
This is why I laugh when people talk sbout keeping a character consistent. It doesnt happen. Writers are inspired by previous runs, but thet rarely hold hard and fast to previous takes. Everyone wants to tell their story.
If your desire is to be a writer of note and to anything more than surface level storytelling then you are going to depart from previous trails.
Hickman, Priest,Kirby,Lee,Hudlin, and Gillis version of Panther are richly and beautifully different. They are brothers but not the same guy
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;1744115]This is why I laugh when people talk sbout keeping a character consistent. It doesnt happen. Writers are inspired by previous runs, but thet rarely hold hard and fast to previous takes. Everyone wants to tell their story.
If your desire is to be a writer of note and to anything more than surface level storytelling then you are going to depart from previous trails.
Hickman, Priest,Kirby,Lee,Hudlin, and Gillis version of Panther are richly and beautifully different. They are brothers but not the same guy[/QUOTE]
True. A lot of people look at characters like Batman, Spidey, Superman, and other A-listers, and say they have a very consistent, but they gained that through having hundreds of writers working on them.
And even they have very different takes.
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[QUOTE=Double 0;1744098]Not only did he bring him up on twitter, but do you honestly think that a guy who [URL="https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/680798889365102593"]agrees that The Crew was the most tragic premature cancellation in the history of comics[/URL], who's international known for essentially doing his homework, is going to ignore the most prolific Black Panther run?
And nevermind Coates, do you think Brian Stelfreeze will? That's even more doubtful.[/QUOTE]
Any person who is a fan of the Crew,is good people:)