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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2958669]So I hate to bring up the love interest debate again, but I've had this on my mind lately. You know how Miles Morales is in the main 616 universe now or how the current Superman and Lois Lane in DC rebirth are from a different universe and replaced the new 52 versions? What if they can do the same for Nakia? Maybe they can bring in a Nakia from a different universe that's actually T'Challa's age and isn't batshit insane to boot. Plus it would be good synergy for the movies.[/QUOTE]
I like where you're going with this
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2958560]Your post history says you don't cause for some reason you think that can't be checked or people don't see you posting, you can try to deflect all you want but the only liar here is you and that's not even including your silence on the shade being thrown at him in Storm's thread now but hey you defend him there and Storm fans don't throw shade[/QUOTE]
oh please stop with the lies. no one is shading tchalla in the storm thread. geez.
in fact the opposite is true. You have several posters in the storm thread expressing their approval for Storm/BP relationship. However, come into this thread and shade is being thrown left and right at Storm. So please just stop with all the lies and stop being a hypocrite. you can't complain about shading characters (even though no one is shading Tchalla in Storm's thread) yet you are one of the biggest perpetrators who throw shade at Storm and her fans. .
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2957677]Hi Butterflykyss, that was an awesome post describing Ororo's unique powers etc in a manner that clearly illustrates just how badly Marvel have dropped the ball as far as her trajectory within the MU goes.
Thanks for posting this.
With the hiring of Coates on BP scripting duties, T'Challa's forward momentum within his solo is similarly stunted.[/QUOTE]
You're very welcome. It has been one of the most frustrating things about reading Storm, as well as how they managed to destroy her branching away from the Xmen.
Looking at all the posts about Coates and what he is currently doing for BP i understand the frustrations. I couldn't imagine picking up a solo book with hopes of reading the title character do amazing things for that to not happen. That said, I saw that Ultimates preview and it looks like Tchalla is about to have a nice showing there. It looks really good.
[QUOTE=BBeeryan;2957748]
Thanks, love. I try, I really do. But I refuse to let some of his die-hard fans stop me from enjoying him. Even though they try their damnedest. Lol is that a word?
Storm is a part of his world. And he's a part of hers. History like theirs does not just go away. I'm sure there are instances that still rub fans of both characters the wrong way, but all Storm fans were not complicit in the tearing down of this union. And it isn't fair for all Storm fans to be lumped together on that front. It's not. And as long as they have ties together her character will always have a place in his mythos. And vice versa. Folks that have a problem with this couple have a problem within themselves. That's all.[/QUOTE]
The All-Goddess is very much pleased!!! Please continue to spread the Goddess-pel of Truth!!! May the light lead the infidels from their well of darkness.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2958669]So I hate to bring up the love interest debate again, but I've had this on my mind lately. You know how Miles Morales is in the main 616 universe now or how the current Superman and Lois Lane in DC rebirth are from a different universe and replaced the new 52 versions? What if they can do the same for Nakia? Maybe they can bring in a Nakia from a different universe that's actually T'Challa's age and isn't batshit insane to boot. Plus it would be good synergy for the movies.[/QUOTE]
If the Nakia in the movie doesn't become Malice and instead becomes his legit love interest then that might be worth doing. But if she ends up becoming Malice in the movie to then a good Malice probably isn't necessary.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2958669]So I hate to bring up the love interest debate again, but I've had this on my mind lately. You know how Miles Morales is in the main 616 universe now or how the current Superman and Lois Lane in DC rebirth are from a different universe and replaced the new 52 versions? What if they can do the same for Nakia? Maybe they can bring in a Nakia from a different universe that's actually T'Challa's age and isn't batshit insane to boot. Plus it would be good synergy for the movies.[/QUOTE]
[B]Even Easier, Solomons frogs grab 10-12 years future Nakia, Explain how in that time she realized her Errors and goes through a redemption sequence. Easy easy[/B]
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[QUOTE=XPac;2958901]If the Nakia in the movie doesn't become Malice and instead becomes his legit love interest then that might be worth doing. But if she ends up becoming Malice in the movie to then a good Malice probably isn't necessary.[/QUOTE]
They already confirmed that Nakia in the film is going to be nothing like her comic book counterpart.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2959138]They already confirmed that Nakia in the film is going to be nothing like her comic book counterpart.[/QUOTE]
There certainly are differences (age being very very key). But that doesn't mean she won't pull a page out of Mordo's playboy and do a heel tirn. They could have easily named her after a different Dora if they wanted to.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2958571]People forget how much of a comic guy he is[/QUOTE]
Yep, Uber need. I remember him being at Black Panel at SDCC many moons ago.
If we want to put out of the box' names for future BP scribes, I think him and Orlando Jones would be interesting choices.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2958560]Your post history says you don't cause for some reason you think that can't be checked or people don't see you posting, you can try to deflect all you want but the only liar here is you and that's not even including your silence on the shade being thrown at him in Storm's thread now but hey you defend him there and Storm fans don't throw shade[/QUOTE]
Wtf are you talking about? You are so out of touch, it's sad. I seriously need you to get a clue. You claim you've checked my post history, but you really haven't. But it's okay. I never once claimed that no Storm fans threw shade his way. I said you were attacking the wrong Storm fans. Ones that haven't thrown shade his way. Plus, smart guy, the burden of proof isn't on me to prove that I don't throw shade at him. It's on you. You keep making claims about me throwing shade, but you still have yet to provide that proof. Other than the bullshit about me wanting T'Challa to use his wife as his Trump card. That's only proof of you being obtuse. You just love saying dumb shit, and I wish you'd just stop.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;2958889]oh please stop with the lies. no one is shading tchalla in the storm thread. geez.
in fact the opposite is true. You have several posters in the storm thread expressing their approval for Storm/BP relationship. However, come into this thread and shade is being thrown left and right at Storm. So please just stop with all the lies and stop being a hypocrite. you can't complain about shading characters (even though no one is shading Tchalla in Storm's thread) yet you are one of the biggest perpetrators who throw shade at Storm and her fans. .
You're very welcome. It has been one of the most frustrating things about reading Storm, as well as how they managed to destroy her branching away from the Xmen.
Looking at all the posts about Coates and what he is currently doing for BP i understand the frustrations. I couldn't imagine picking up a solo book with hopes of reading the title character do amazing things for that to not happen. That said, I saw that Ultimates preview and it looks like Tchalla is about to have a nice showing there. It looks really good.
The All-Goddess is very much pleased!!! Please continue to spread the Goddess-pel of Truth!!! May the light lead the infidels from their well of darkness.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Kyss. I'm trying my best to be the bridge between the fanbases but I can't just listen to asswipes flat out lie. If you're gonna lie, at least be good at it. Real shit.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2959309]Yep, Uber need. I remember him being at Black Panel at SDCC many moons ago.
If we want to put out of the box' names for future BP scribes, I think him and Orlando Jones would be interesting choices.[/QUOTE]
I hear both of them are not at this years black panel which is a shame.
Not sure about Orlando as I've heard he's great when there's someone else around as a filter
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2958082][QUOTE=BBeeryan;2957748]
Admit it you don't even like the couple and be done with it because you don't post in the marriage thread and you certainly don't talk about T'Challa in the Storm thread. You do a whole lot of goal post moving but that's par the course with "X-Men" fans[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of Storm fans who like BP as her pair. While others dontreally like BP but those Storm fans who come here to BP's thread are genuinely BP fans and fans of their pairing.
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From another forum. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar talking about creating comic characters.
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/3-ways-black-superheroes-can-be-made-better-kareem-abdul-jabbar-1022029[/url]
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[QUOTE=Cville;2959909]From another forum. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar talking about creating comic characters.
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/3-ways-black-superheroes-can-be-made-better-kareem-abdul-jabbar-1022029[/url][/QUOTE]
Interesting...
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[QUOTE=phumgano;2957900]Ororo's like I'm not black I'ma mutant....
[IMG]https://i1.wp.com/thenet.ng/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/giphy-49.gif?fit=480%2C270[/IMG]
...........Okay.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit. brah. Brah why brah... my heart. I'm dying THE LAUGHS. *gasp*... help....
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[QUOTE=Cville;2954792]Can Tchalla get this much positivity? lol[/QUOTE]
You took the words right OUT of my mouth
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So I was on superhero hype looking at a post from a guy who was at the marvel panel at SDCC. For those who are anticipating queen Nakia, he said that we shouldn't expect her to get with T'Challa at the end of the film as they reportedly called her "not his agent carter". Bummer. Looks like we maybe stuck with storm for the foreseeable future guys.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2956440]...I don't really like getting involved in discussions about the current BP run since I'm not reading it anymore. However, I'd like to say a few things:
I don't think anyone is "blaming Storm" for anything at the moment, from what I've read. At least, not directly. I know some have criticized some of her actions in the past, however. But at the end of the day, I think we're all aware that Storm is a fictional character and all that she is and does are a manifestation of a writer. Storm is [I]not real[/I]. Nevertheless, Coates is a [I]very real person[/I] and his [I]very real actions and decisions[/I] are the problem for us here.
Look at the preview for example: I know it's just a preview but still, it is [U]promotion[/U]. T'Challa, the Black Panther, does not appear on any of those panels. Yet whose book is this? Whose name is the very first you see? That--to me--is a problem: [U]You're not promoting the title character[/U]. And even if someone like say, a casual comic book reader, who stumbles upon this preview, doesn't question the missing presence of the title character, it's going to be stuck in his or her mind that Storm is who he or she is going to read about. That person has been given the choice to order this issue because he or she has seen Storm, not Black Panther. If this book was called "Black Panther & Storm", perhaps this would be forgivable. However for me, this somewhat proves to me that T'Challa will not do anything worthy of note in this issue because such a thing cannot even be teased to build up anticipation.
Looking at the preview again, I don't recall seeing T'Challa acting like this in his own book: [I]Identifying the problem. Attending to the problem. Solving the problem[/I]. When has T'Challa in this series gone into a fight or addressed a situation [I]and won[/I] undisputed single-handedly or flawlessly? When has he done such a thing by his own thought or will? I legitimately cannot recall such an instance, and if there has been (I would very much like to be corrected), how many times has it happened in the total of the now 15 issue series? Meanwhile, there are a plethora of examples of T'Challa doing this in other guest appearances and in the current team book, Ultimates. The preview for that book shows T'Challa (by his own thought or will) attempting to face the White Tiger God. Now even if he loses, that shows T'Challa doing something on his own. That's a very definitive trait of the T'Challa many of us here know and love. And this is just one instance, not to talk of the other instances that show this same trait.
I'm currently reading Priest's run in preparation of the movie (and to get the bad taste of Coates out of my mouth) and that T'Challa [I]almost[/I] comes across as cruel compared to the guy Coates is writing. That T'Challa was the one who went out of his way to bust up gangbangers to set up his own intelligence network, threatened corrupt members of the tomorrow fund with fear and violence (he literally set one of them's clothes on fire and was so visibly disgusted to find out he was a pedophile that he had no problem letting him fly out a window which he pushed him out of). Take the moment when he "decked" Mephisto for example. Sure, T'Challa had the brightest minds in Wakanda monitoring and draining Mephisto energy, but [I]he had them do it[/I]. It was his thought and will. They didn't do it by themselves by their own thought and will and then go "Your highness, we've captured the devil for you because we thought it necessary. What would you like to do with him?". He ordered them to do what he knew needed to be done and then finished the job. Reading some of the letters in the letters page, you can see Priest taking some heat and being utterly unapologetic about this approach to T'Challa. This is why his version til this very day is the definitive T'Challa: Other writers are borrowing from it. Animated series are borrowing from it, The MCU seems to be borrowing from it. It was the necessary reinvention and re-imagination that the character needed, while also making sure that said characterization made sense: T'Challa is the warrior king of a highly advanced warrior isolationist nation. That sounds like it demands some level of ruthlessness and pragmatism, not cruelty and certainly not complacency or inadequacy. I never saw that attitude in this book, nor was it ever pointed out by others who (quite bravely) continue to read on.
With all of that inconsideration, one should not be surprised when Black Panther fans voice their repeated complaints when a supporting cast is then given agency or traits that belong to the title character. While these (or at least, just the former) are not particularly a bad thing, it becomes a problem when we do not get what we want and instead have to read what we want, being done by people we don't want it done by solely.
See, I don't hate Storm. I [I]like[/I] Storm. But I'm [I]not going to like[/I] Storm when I feel like she's being made to overstep her boundaries as a supporting cast member when my Black Panther continues to do squat. This makes her feel like she is taking up panel space that could be used for the title character, which at the end of it is more important.[/QUOTE]
God Bless you sir!
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2961100]So I was on superhero hype looking at a post from a guy who was at the marvel panel at SDCC. For those who are anticipating queen Nakia, he said that we shouldn't expect her to get with T'Challa at the end of the film as they reportedly called her "not his agent carter". Bummer. Looks like we maybe stuck with storm for the foreseeable future guys.[/QUOTE]
Hmm... I think I saw this coming anyway. It was quite apparent from recent interviews with Entertainment Weekly. And really I'm okay with it. I do think they'll be flirty in the movie which is cool for me, though I hope down the line it grows into something more
[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;2961135]God Bless you sir![/QUOTE]
Thank you kind sir haha
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;2954947]Tchalla has been very present in this iteration of BP. He may not be written in the way fans would like, but he is very much present. To try to blame Storm for poor sales in the BP book or lack of development for Tchalla is just a big overreach. If this discussion were about BP&C, I could see your point but that statement the poster made wasn't about that title. That said, I understand fans frustrations with not seeing Tchalla present but the Storm hate is just beyond tiresome at this point. At the very least if people want to gripe about the character let it be for VALID reasons, with poor sales not being one of them.[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you on this one my friend.
It's pretty much obvious at this point, that Coates would rather be writing an X-book or two.
Black Panther enthusiasts should not be expected to remain silent in the face of Coates wholesale anti BP mythos agenda just because...
I don't expect to pick up a BP solo book only to have X-related references all up in the pages.
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Waid has been announced as Cap's writer. Looks like Coates will stay for the time being.
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So today I was watching this thing on Nat Geo Wild called Future Cat. It's mostly about the evolution of the big cats but the part that stuck with me towards the end of it was when they were talking about these robots that are four-legged and their structure and movements are meant to imitate that of big cats like cheetahs. Apparently, robots like these would be really good for search and rescue missions because they can move through uneven terrain. Another possibility is that they could used in wheelchairs so they can easily move down steps and such because they don't use wheels.
Anyway, it got me thinking: What if T'Challa had Wakanda develop and perfect this technology? Basically, robot panthers. They could use them for remote stealth and reconnaissance missions. They could used in combat situations too. Or what if their legs could be used to develop some kind of transportation system? Like a bike with legs? Or any vehicle really? Like tanks? That might be a bit weird though...
But then I thought about a new villain. Say you have this guy who's paralysed from the waist down or something, from an event or accident. Maybe he/she the one who develops the tech or something. The origin can be worked out later but the point is, he or she replaces most of their body with the robot cat parts. Maybe they'll replace their spine too. Either way, it should look pretty horrific, but still cool. This person ends up being a big cat robot cyborg, amd they should call themselves Sphinx. You could add the wings of the Midnight Angels suits too, to look like this
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a9/41/7aa94100e4cb313dc8f1acb09caa17bf.jpg[/IMG]
You can read more about the robots here:
[url]https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/cheetah-cub/[/url]
[url]https://www.livescience.com/47845-cheetah-robot-running-jumping.html[/url]
[url]https://www.bostondynamics.com/wildcat[/url]
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2961215]Waid has been announced as Cap's writer. Looks like Coates will stay for the time being.[/QUOTE]
Black Panther fans can never catch a freaking break can we? Looks like we're stuck with Bland Panther for a long ass time.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2961266]Black Panther fans can never catch a freaking break can we? Looks like we're stuck with Bland Panther for a long ass time.[/QUOTE]
We'll manage. The outcomes are pretty clear at this point, as far as the comic book is concerned:
-Coates doesn't improve and the book more or less stays at is, until he leaves. If so, it is what it is.
-Coates somehow improves. If so, better late than never and a positive outcome for everyone.
Either way, the MCU solo film is coming (as well as sequels and appearances in other MCU films) and a lot of new BP stuff in other mediums that can keep old and new fans entertained. As for the comics, safe to say it will always be in shelves, regardless of who writes it, how good the book is, or how much it sells.
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2961215]Waid has been announced as Cap's writer. Looks like Coates will stay for the time being.[/QUOTE]
Well, the rumor is that Waid has an arc that transitions into a different writer, so I wouldn't read too much into it.
That being said, I wouldn't assume that Coates writing Captain America actually means he's only writing that.
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I'll just keep pretending like Coates run doesn't exist (:
Btw how do you guys also feel about BP having an AI villain? Maybe as played out as is it, Kimoyo becomes evil for some reason. I feel like Kimoyo would be a 'female' entity and I won't want to give her a death bot like Ultron so she could be more like Brother Eye (might come off as a rip off though). You could give it a mystical/spiritual edge too.
Just think of it as a storyline that can emphasize T'Challa genius.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2961319]Well, the rumor is that Waid has an arc that transitions into a different writer, so I wouldn't read too much into it.
[B]That being said, I wouldn't assume that Coates writing Captain America actually means he's only writing that.[/B][/QUOTE]
True, but Coates has a very loaded schedule with just the BP book alone: deadlines with the Atlantic, writing a new book, promoting said new book, and so on. Remember that a major reason why he decided to get different writers for the spin-offs was because of his loaded schedule.
Him adding Cap to his writing duties means there is a good chance BP would've been dropped eventually.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961335]I'll just keep pretending like Coates run doesn't exist (:
Btw how do you guys also feel about BP having an AI villain? Maybe as played out as is it, Kimoyo becomes evil for some reason. I feel like Kimoyo would be a 'female' entity and I won't want to give her a death bot like Ultron so she could be more like Brother Eye (might come off as a rip off though). You could give it a mystical/spiritual edge too.
Just think of it as a storyline that can emphasize T'Challa genius.[/QUOTE]
Hasn't been done in the BP-verse. I'm all for it.
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Come on guys. Just enjoy Coates run. Other people love his run. And it's not like this is BP's first time to have an ongoing solo.
And we all know Coates will not forever write the BP book. So just chill.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961221]So today I was watching this thing on Nat Geo Wild called Future Cat. It's mostly about the evolution of the big cats but the part that stuck with me towards the end of it was when they were talking about these robots that are four-legged and their structure and movements are meant to imitate that of big cats like cheetahs. Apparently, robots like these would be really good for search and rescue missions because they can move through uneven terrain. Another possibility is that they could used in wheelchairs so they can easily move down steps and such because they don't use wheels.
Anyway, it got me thinking: What if T'Challa had Wakanda develop and perfect this technology? Basically, robot panthers. They could use them for remote stealth and reconnaissance missions. They could used in combat situations too. Or what if their legs could be used to develop some kind of transportation system? Like a bike with legs? Or any vehicle really? Like tanks? That might be a bit weird though...
But then I thought about a new villain. Say you have this guy who's paralysed from the waist down or something, from an event or accident. Maybe he/she the one who develops the tech or something. The origin can be worked out later but the point is, he or she replaces most of their body with the robot cat parts. Maybe they'll replace their spine too. Either way, it should look pretty horrific, but still cool. This person ends up being a big cat robot cyborg, amd they should call themselves Sphinx. You could add the wings of the Midnight Angels suits too, to look like this
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a9/41/7aa94100e4cb313dc8f1acb09caa17bf.jpg[/IMG]
You can read more about the robots here:
[url]https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/cheetah-cub/[/url]
[url]https://www.livescience.com/47845-cheetah-robot-running-jumping.html[/url]
[url]https://www.bostondynamics.com/wildcat[/url][/QUOTE]
I've suggested several times the idea that T'Challa should have have advanced, nearly So, robotic panther running around his techno jungle. Instead of human ai, it would be more like feline ai. I think the idea of working on a robot that has "instinct" would separate T'Challa's efforts from all the other roboticists and their human ai who are going for full blown human ai.
And I like your idea a lot about the cyborg panther. Kinda creepy.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961335]I'll just keep pretending like Coates run doesn't exist (:
Btw how do you guys also feel about BP having an AI villain? Maybe as played out as is it, Kimoyo becomes evil for some reason. I feel like Kimoyo would be a 'female' entity and I won't want to give her a death bot like Ultron so she could be more like Brother Eye (might come off as a rip off though). You could give it a mystical/spiritual edge too.
Just think of it as a storyline that can emphasize T'Challa genius.[/QUOTE]
The AI gone bad trope has been done to death in comics and would be just as cliche in a BP book. If they wanna do a story about T'Challa's genius I'd rather they do something like a story about him leading some sort of colonization program in space. Or he takes on an enemy connected to pollution in lake Nyanza or something like that. Environmentalism, science, and politics all in one lol.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961221]So today I was watching this thing on Nat Geo Wild called Future Cat. It's mostly about the evolution of the big cats but the part that stuck with me towards the end of it was when they were talking about these robots that are four-legged and their structure and movements are meant to imitate that of big cats like cheetahs. Apparently, robots like these would be really good for search and rescue missions because they can move through uneven terrain. Another possibility is that they could used in wheelchairs so they can easily move down steps and such because they don't use wheels.
Anyway, it got me thinking: What if T'Challa had Wakanda develop and perfect this technology? Basically, robot panthers. They could use them for remote stealth and reconnaissance missions. They could used in combat situations too. Or what if their legs could be used to develop some kind of transportation system? Like a bike with legs? Or any vehicle really? Like tanks? That might be a bit weird though...
But then I thought about a new villain. Say you have this guy who's paralysed from the waist down or something, from an event or accident. Maybe he/she the one who develops the tech or something. The origin can be worked out later but the point is, he or she replaces most of their body with the robot cat parts. Maybe they'll replace their spine too. Either way, it should look pretty horrific, but still cool. This person ends up being a big cat robot cyborg, amd they should call themselves Sphinx. You could add the wings of the Midnight Angels suits too, to look like this
[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a9/41/7aa94100e4cb313dc8f1acb09caa17bf.jpg[/IMG]
You can read more about the robots here:
[url]https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/cheetah-cub/[/url]
[url]https://www.livescience.com/47845-cheetah-robot-running-jumping.html[/url]
[url]https://www.bostondynamics.com/wildcat[/url][/QUOTE]
They have the Prowlers as seen in Priest and Hudlins "Black to the Future" annual.
Would you want something like Ravage from Transformers Revenge of the Fallen?
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[QUOTE=Realdealholy;2961298]We'll manage. The outcomes are pretty clear at this point, as far as the comic book is concerned:
-Coates doesn't improve and the book more or less stays at is, until he leaves. If so, it is what it is.
-Coates somehow improves. If so, better late than never and a positive outcome for everyone.
Either way, the MCU solo film is coming (as well as sequels and appearances in other MCU films) and a lot of new BP stuff in other mediums that can keep old and new fans entertained. As for the comics, safe to say it will always be in shelves, regardless of who writes it, how good the book is, or how much it sells.[/QUOTE]
[B]I feel we are going to be stuck with the first version. It seemed like Maybe he was improving slightly in issue 13,
but then issue 14 was the back to the same ole thing, then issue 15 confirmed it that anyone who might of had hope he would change that he never will and it's going to remain "The supporting cast and X guests of Wakanda [SIZE=1] featuring the Bland Panther"[/SIZE]..
Maybe Marvel will make a second Solo for T'Challa after the movie crushes it, but I doubt it, not unless that 2 parter coming later was a HUGE success and they decided to continue it [/B]
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[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;2961392]Come on guys. Just enjoy Coates run. Other people love his run. And it's not like this is BP's first time to have an ongoing solo.
And we all know Coates will not forever write the BP book. So just chill.[/QUOTE]
Easy for you to say. Your character is getting shine. lol.
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[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;2961392]Come on guys. Just enjoy Coates run. Other people love his run. And it's not like this is BP's first time to have an ongoing solo.
And we all know Coates will not forever write the BP book. So just chill.[/QUOTE]
So I'm supposed to just sit down, shut up, and just "enjoy" T'Challa being a supporting character in his own damn book?
I'm supposed to just "enjoy" Coates using T'Challa's name in order to try (and fail) to do stealth solos for other characters?
I'm supposed to just "enjoy" Coates taking a massive dump on the mythos?
I'm supposed to just "enjoy" supporting characters taking over the book?
I'm supposed to just "enjoy" T'Challa being a whiny milquetoast bitch who is damn near useless while the supporting characters have to hold his damn hand and do all the work instead being the badass warrior king he's supposed to be?
Yeah no thanks. I am not about to stand by and just stay silent while Coates just ruins one of my favorite superheroes. I know crap when I see it and I am gonna call it for what it is.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961182]Hmm... I think I saw this coming anyway. It was quite apparent from recent interviews with Entertainment Weekly. And really I'm okay with it. I do think they'll be flirty in the movie which is cool for me, though I hope down the line it grows into something more
Thank you kind sir haha[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think the fact that they named her Nakia is a good reason not to expect her and T'Challa to live happily ever after in the MCU. Not that the movies necessarily are obligated to follow the comics, but that's their blue print.
My prediction is Monica Lynn being introduced at some point, which will be the catalyst for Malice.
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[QUOTE=MouserGrey;2961399]I've suggested several times the idea that T'Challa should have have advanced, nearly So, robotic panther running around his techno jungle. Instead of human ai, it would be more like feline ai. I think the idea of working on a robot that has "instinct" would separate T'Challa's efforts from all the other roboticists and their human ai who are going for full blown human ai.
And I like your idea a lot about the cyborg panther. Kinda creepy.[/QUOTE]
I like the idea of a robotic panther with a feline AI. I didn't think of that
[QUOTE=chief12d;2961404]The AI gone bad trope has been done to death in comics and would be just as cliche in a BP book. If they wanna do a story about T'Challa's genius I'd rather they do something like a story about him leading some sort of colonization program in space. Or he takes on an enemy connected to pollution in lake Nyanza or something like that. Environmentalism, science, and politics all in one lol.[/QUOTE]
I agree it's done to death, that's why I was skeptical. I do like your idea about space colonisation. That's along the lines of what I wanted when I read New Avengers for the first time. That last idea is really interesting though.
[QUOTE=Cville;2961407]They have the Prowlers as seen in Priest and Hudlins "Black to the Future" annual.
Would you want something like Ravage from Transformers Revenge of the Fallen?[/QUOTE]
Was that the dog like thing shooting at people?
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2961525]I like the idea of a robotic panther with a feline AI. I didn't think of that
I agree it's done to death, that's why I was skeptical. I do like your idea about space colonisation. That's along the lines of what I wanted when I read New Avengers for the first time. That last idea is really interesting though.
Was that the dog like thing shooting at people?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. In the G1 cartoon and beast wars he looks like a panther.
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The ai panther could hang out hunting other techno beasts in the techno jungle. Just a taste of T'Challa's genius.
I also agree with the exploration of space. I think we all want T'Challa to at least attempt to find vibranium. And to visit the Wakandan bases they should have hiding in our solar systems astroid belt. And to find out what is wrong with the deep probes Wakandan should have monitoring the giant gas planets.
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[QUOTE=chief12d;2961404]The AI gone bad trope has been done to death in comics and would be just as cliche in a BP book. If they wanna do a story about T'Challa's genius I'd rather they do something like a story about him leading some sort of colonization program in space. [B]Or he takes on an enemy connected to pollution in lake Nyanza or something like that. Environmentalism, science, and politics all in one lol.[/B][/QUOTE]
I like this idea a lot.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2961416][B]I feel we are going to be stuck with the first version. It seemed like Maybe he was improving slightly in issue 13,
but then issue 14 was the back to the same ole thing, then issue 15 confirmed it that anyone who might of had hope he would change that he never will and it's going to remain "The supporting cast and X guests of Wakanda [SIZE=1] featuring the Bland Panther"[/SIZE]..
Maybe Marvel will make a second Solo for T'Challa after the movie crushes it, but I doubt it, not unless that 2 parter coming later was a HUGE success and they decided to continue it [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I think they probably will give BP a 2nd solo when the movie hits. If for no other reason than to have extra product on the shelves. Look what they did with Dr Strange...he had the ongoing, The Last Days of Magic, Doc and the Sorcerers Supreme
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2961416][B]I feel we are going to be stuck with the first version. It seemed like Maybe he was improving slightly in issue 13,
but then issue 14 was the back to the same ole thing, then issue 15 confirmed it that anyone who might of had hope he would change that he never will and it's going to remain "The supporting cast and X guests of Wakanda [SIZE=1] featuring the Bland Panther"[/SIZE][/B][/quote]
Hopefully not. We'll see how it goes.
[QUOTE][B]Maybe Marvel will make a second Solo for T'Challa after the movie crushes it, but I doubt it, not unless that 2 parter coming later was a HUGE success and they decided to continue it[/B][/QUOTE]
Doubt it, especially after what happened to the spin-offs. Marvel will (and should, imho) focus their efforts on the main book.
If anything, the movie might give the book a temporary boost in sales in all formats (floppies, digital, and trades). I can see Marvel promoting the main book once more, with a new story arc kicking off. Coates will probably be the writer due to his name outside of the comic world (something Marvel is eager to acquire, it appears) the book selling well in trades and digital, and because he still wants to write it.