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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3819373][B] Which is fine because it wasn't his movie and he literally just lost his father and his murderer was at Large. We aren't going to get a very friendly Tchalla nor would I expect it, unless they went that stupid Noble negro route. However, in his own movie?
You can't have a guy who Just lost his father a week ago, being thrust Into the role of King, be this uncompromising and enigmatic person as he was said he felt he wasn't ready and asked his father what he should do. His father told him to surround himself with people he trusted and that's why we start seek out his supporting cast have more development and get into their minds as to what they are thinking.
We had a Tchalla that had to balance being a part, a king, a good man, and a superhero. I felt he was personally pretty badass when he was chasing Klaw down and had it not been that so many people were around he would of killed him outright "Every breathe you take is Mercy from me"
All in all, he couldn't be the same Tchalla in CW in terms of being revenge mode because there was so much more going on in his movie and now his actions affected his nation even more then before. Finally, in regards to his skills that's why I feel the warriors falls fights are arguably the best fights in the MCU. They are on even (not really as Tchalla is depowered and fights at a disadvantage) grounds and it's just a brutal fight. No trick's or powers just straight up skill[/B][/QUOTE]
Bruv, I'm as hardcore a BP enthusiast as anyone posting in this thread but to be Frank, I wasn't that jazzed about T'Challa's fight scenes in the BP movie. Captain America:Winter Soldier has the best hand-to-hand combat sequences in the Post Blade MCU.
The Russo Brothers really had T'challa doing the damn thing in Civil War and I was expecting more of the same in the BP movie.
Unfortunately, that never happened.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3820077]Bruv, I'm as hardcore a BP enthusiast as anyone posting in this thread but to be Frank, I wasn't that jazzed about T'Challa's fight scenes in the BP movie. Captain America:Winter Soldier has the best hand-to-hand combat sequences in the Post Blade MCU.
The Russo Brothers really had T'challa doing the damn thing in Civil War and I was expecting more of the same in the BP movie.
Unfortunately, that never happened.[/QUOTE]
[B]I respect that brother Maj, however, for his scenes in CW Coogler overlooked T'Challas scenes as the Russos didn't want to do anything that might impact BP's movie so they had Coogler take on scenes involving Tchalla.
Also again I feel that warrior falls scenes were arguably the best because it's straight up equal fights. No guns no Vibranium shield. Two dudes in shorts and weapons of war. Tchalla gets brought back to normal human level. I dunno man those were great imo because it shows that Tchalla is great not only outside the suit like CW made sure of (to shut up haters saying his suit gives him some advantage) but BPs Solo takes it a step further by taking his power away which leaves him even more weakened then of he didn't take the hsh because he has been used to that level for 8 years.
To me that's more impressive especially Given we see that M'Baku for instance is strong enough to lift a full grown man with armor and gear with one hand and fling them at least 10+ feet. There is room for improvement as is always the case with any movie. But also remember this is his first solo, and he straight crushed it. That is something to remember, especially when people were expecting (except me *cough* *cough*) bp to do strange levels[/B]
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Who said fight scenes... :cool:
[video=youtube;ABXSwsnlmPc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXSwsnlmPc[/video]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3819977][B]Haters. Gonna. Hate. Regardless.
They just noise dude, they hate that BP has beaten out their favorite heroes [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think that's the only reason (although I'm sure it's a major contributory factor). You also have to remember this:
Bitchers. Gonna. Bitch.
I've talked about this before: While the movie was being made, it felt like 4 out of 5 posters were going "this movie is going to suck", based solely on their interpretation of the movies.
Filming in Atlanta? The film will take place mostly in the US. It's gonna suck.
It takes place mostly in Wakanda? Cap & his team will help save the day, because that's where they were at the end of CW. It's gonna suck.
No Shuri casting announcement? It's gonna suck.
And so on. Hell, even before the movie, people bitched when they thought that AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON took plave in Wakanda, instead of South Africa,
Then the movie comes out. Barely 10 minutes in the US, no sign of Steve Rogers at all. And Shuri has a major supporting role.
The movie SHATTERS box-office records, right and left. Even 48-year old Italian-American geeks enjoy it so much, they watch it more than once.
Are they happy? Of course not. Because the movie doesn't match the image in their heads 100%, it STILL sucks, to a certain class of fan. They pick one or two minor details, blow them up out of proportion, and go trawling for comments & reviews that support the idea, simply so they can feel justified in complaining, because complaining is all that makes them happy.
Or, in short:
Bitchers. Gonna. Bitch.
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3819949]I get what you are saying, but the reality is there are more who think CW BP > Coogler's BP. [/QUOTE]
In the reality where people go looking for negative articles, sure. Confirmation biasy as hell.
Just like the "chadwick sucked" stuff going on in here... that was constant (by like 3 people). And claimed "everyone" thought he sucked.
Then Chadwick goes and wins MTV awards and shit, which is much closer to the "masses" than internet nerd forums, and those people go quiet for awhile.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3819977][B] The reality is the numbers dont lie. If Tchalla was the weak link (he wasn't) then his movie wouldn't of been crushing records.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR="#A52A2A"]I have noticed you seek out negative review's or look at comment sections of YouTube as if that is a basis that Black Panther wasn't good.
[/COLOR][/FONT]Haters gonna hate. Even IF they did all the things the haters asked for they would change their tune "too Much violence" "he's supposed to be a king, why he is allowed to beat up all these bad guys and not have any consequences" or "the action sets were long and drug out like in BvS or MoS"
Black Panther has been fully Embraced by fans. There's a reason why his movie has broken so many records, his toys have been sold out, people all over did the Wakanda forever salute months after the movie dropped.
Haters. Gonna. Hate. Regardless.
They just noise dude, they hate that BP has beaten out their favorite heroes [/B][/QUOTE]
I should have known way back then, you know why Ezro1000?
Because of MindofShadow and the kids!
[img]http://gifimgs.com/res/0718/5b5f1698bd599049143037.gif[/img]
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It is just a variant cover but....
[img]http://community.comicbookresources.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68819[/img]
[img]https://media1.tenor.com/images/486c5af4f5227a2d8e72fc23415e9a09/tenor.gif?itemid=4616916[/img]
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3820311]I don't think that's the only reason (although I'm sure it's a major contributory factor). You also have to remember this:
Bitchers. Gonna. Bitch.
I've talked about this before: While the movie was being made, it felt like 4 out of 5 posters were going "this movie is going to suck", based solely on their interpretation of the movies.
Filming in Atlanta? The film will take place mostly in the US. It's gonna suck.
It takes place mostly in Wakanda? Cap & his team will help save the day, because that's where they were at the end of CW. It's gonna suck.
No Shuri casting announcement? It's gonna suck.
And so on. Hell, even before the movie, people bitched when they thought that AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON took plave in Wakanda, instead of South Africa,
Then the movie comes out. Barely 10 minutes in the US, no sign of Steve Rogers at all. And Shuri has a major supporting role.
The movie SHATTERS box-office records, right and left. Even 48-year old Italian-American geeks enjoy it so much, they watch it more than once.
Are they happy? Of course not. Because the movie doesn't match the image in their heads 100%, it STILL sucks, to a certain class of fan. They pick one or two minor details, blow them up out of proportion, and go trawling for comments & reviews that support the idea, simply so they can feel justified in complaining, because complaining is all that makes them happy.
Or, in short:
Bitchers. Gonna. Bitch.[/QUOTE]
[B]Ah Yea I forgot that one, thanks brother BoG. Yeah bitchers gonna bitch.
Steve's gonna save the day, it's going to take place in the US. Ross is in the movie? It's gonna suck as he is going to have a major role and save the day.
After the movie dropped, Tchalla wasn't compelling, everyone outshone him. Okoye is a better fighter then Tchalla because Nakia said she was the greatest warrior in Wakanda (since Tchalla was presumed dead)
Shit how bad it got back then you would of thought coming into this thread that the movie flopped[/B]
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3820464]I should have known way back then, you know why Ezro1000?
Because of MindofShadow and the kids!
[img]http://gifimgs.com/res/0718/5b5f1698bd599049143037.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
[B]In just saying man, the last two YouTube videos, BP vs tdk, and the Oscar video. You were super worried about the comment section.. the ones filled with 13 yr olds and racists slamming BP with every excuse they can. The MTV awards show the true nature of the impact BP has made. And Chadwick got award's because people not on YouTube can see how well he performed. Not try to act salty because he beat out bats.
There is also a reason people want BP to get nominated at the Oscars because they believe it will revitalize them since there has been a decline going on[/B]
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3820112]Who said fight scenes... :cool:
[video=youtube;ABXSwsnlmPc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABXSwsnlmPc[/video][/QUOTE]
Did you see the video that showed Riely vs Ester was copied from Saskue vs Orochimaru? Boondocks knew how to find the good fights.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3820647]Did you see the video that showed Riely vs Ester was copied from Saskue vs Orochimaru? Boondocks knew how to find the good fights.[/QUOTE]
No, but I spotted a clear homage to Bruce Lee's [I]Enter the Dragon[/I] in this vid.
Plus the [I]Flying Guillotine[/I] movies, of course.
(And I think Bushido Brown looked a bit like Afro Samurai, but that may just be me. ;) )
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3820538]It is just a variant cover but....
[img]http://community.comicbookresources.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68819[/img]
[img]https://media1.tenor.com/images/486c5af4f5227a2d8e72fc23415e9a09/tenor.gif?itemid=4616916[/img][/QUOTE]
this was too and had nothing to do with the story:
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/d7/d5/dcd7d53172d90f54ffc04184a18a90d6.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3820715]this was too and had nothing to do with the story:
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... yet .....
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3820697]No, but I spotted a clear homage to Bruce Lee's [I]Enter the Dragon[/I] in this vid.
Plus the [I]Flying Guillotine[/I] movies, of course.
(And I think Bushido Brown looked a bit like Afro Samurai, but that may just be me. ;) )[/QUOTE]
[B]He is a homage to Jim Kelly. Even threw in a line in the episode "Let's nab Oprah" he tells Huey "you come straight outta a comic book" is in reference to Jim Kellys line in enter the dragon "you come straight outta a Comic strip"
Bushido brown was my favorite character next to Huey.
I think Mcgruder could make a very entertaining BP comic [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3820754][B]He is a homage to Jim Kelly. Even threw in a line in the episode "Let's nab Oprah" he tells Huey "you come straight outta a comic book" is in reference to Jim Kellys line in enter the dragon "you come straight outta a Comic strip"
Bushido brown was my favorite character next to Huey.
I think Mcgruder could make a very entertaining BP comic [/B][/QUOTE]
And a bit of Kareem-Abdul Jabbar in [I]Game of Death[/I], I suspect.