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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1201195]I hope the Bucky killing T'Chaka thing isn't true. It removes T'Challa's ability to avenge his father. Like if WS is being framed, and Klaue is the killer, that works fine. T'Challa can avenge his father and has his own villain. If WS kills T'Chaka, Klaue loses some of his setup and T'Challa won't get revenge AND I can pretty much guarantee it will involve Steve stopping him from doing it. Because Steve is ALWAYS right.[/QUOTE]
T'challa can still go after the people who brain washed Bucky. And even the people who sent him after T'Chaka if it's not one and the same. Bucky was just the weapon .... someone else was really behind it.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1200961]Bucky was so brainwashed he tried to kill his best friend multiple times. I think that makes is pretty redeemable.
Klaue might want to restock his supplies considering Ultron took it all and his facility got messed up from all the fighting.
I imagine Steve is the one that will be talking on behalf of Bucky... maybe leading to a Cap/BP relationship.[/QUOTE]
Mind control in comics always equals a free pass sooner or later. If a writer wants a brainwashed character to be irrevocably evil he wouldn't have them brainwashed in the first place.
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[QUOTE=Holt;1201746]In the comments section the guy admits it's fake after someone notices that his summary begins contradicting itself or other things the "leaker" had said.[/QUOTE]
I'm amazed anyone thought it was real to begin with.
It's stunk of white supremacy in regards to how it depicted Black Panther and Wakanda.
As I said before, a LOT of people are in for a rude awakening when Wakanda and Black Panther debut. I've seen many people make guesses into how BP will fit into Civil War and it's often dripping with ideas of African inferiority.
"Maybe T'Challa sees the Avengers fighting in Africa and it inspires him to become the Black Panther"
"I bet T'Challa goes to the Avengers/The UN for help to keep Hydra/Klaw out of Wakanda"
"Wakanda probably wont be as high tech like it is in the comics. They want to keep things grounded"
It's like some people are just assuming that Black Panther and Wakanda are incapable of doing anything without Western help or influence.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1201973]Mind control in comics always equals a free pass sooner or later. If a writer wants a brainwashed character to be irrevocably evil he wouldn't have them brainwashed in the first place.[/QUOTE]
T'Challa would never give anyone a free pass for killing his father though. Even if everybody else forgave Bucky for it T'Challa never would.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1201975]I'm amazed anyone thought it was real to begin with.
It's stunk of white supremacy in regards to how it depicted Black Panther and Wakanda.
As I said before, a LOT of people are in for a rude awakening when Wakanda and Black Panther debut. I've seen many people make guesses into how BP will fit into Civil War and it's often dripping with ideas of African inferiority.
"Maybe T'Challa sees the Avengers fighting in Africa and it inspires him to become the Black Panther"
"I bet T'Challa goes to the Avengers/The UN for help to keep Hydra/Klaw out of Wakanda"
"Wakanda probably wont be as high tech like it is in the comics. They want to keep things grounded"
It's like some people are just assuming that Black Panther and Wakanda are incapable of doing anything without Western help or influence.[/QUOTE]
They're just trying to make it make sense in their wee brains. I mean, we've had decades of this type of trope in movies. That's what they're used to.
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[QUOTE=XPac;1201973]Mind control in comics always equals a free pass sooner or later. If a writer wants a brainwashed character to be irrevocably evil he wouldn't have them brainwashed in the first place.[/QUOTE]
The movie also makes a big point of trying to make him redeemable by having him save Cap at the end, so I doubt they'd throw that out with the bathwater.
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1201975]I'm amazed anyone thought it was real to begin with.
It's stunk of white supremacy in regards to how it depicted Black Panther and Wakanda.
As I said before, a LOT of people are in for a rude awakening when Wakanda and Black Panther debut. I've seen many people make guesses into how BP will fit into Civil War and it's often dripping with ideas of African inferiority.
"Maybe T'Challa sees the Avengers fighting in Africa and it inspires him to become the Black Panther"
"I bet T'Challa goes to the Avengers/The UN for help to keep Hydra/Klaw out of Wakanda"
[B]"Wakanda probably wont be as high tech like it is in the comics. They want to keep things grounded"[/B]
It's like some people are just assuming that Black Panther and Wakanda are incapable of doing anything without Western help or influence.[/QUOTE]
Would you like Wakanda to look like this in live action
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1202156]Would you like Wakanda to look like this in live action
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That is pretty good.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;1201987]They're just trying to make it make sense in their wee brains. I mean, we've had decades of this type of trope in movies. That's what they're used to.[/QUOTE]
Africa is poor craphole filled with Shanty Towns in their minds...trust me I have had the "privilege" of driving through places in the USA just as bad if not worse.
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[URL="http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/more-images-video-from-the-african-market-sequence-in-captain-america-civil-war-black-panther-alert-20150518"]http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/more-images-video-from-the-african-market-sequence-in-captain-america-civil-war-black-panther-alert-20150518[/URL]
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Remember those set photos of what we assumed were doubles of Wakanda (in Atlanta) like the one above - Marvel superhero Black Panther's fictional kingdom "somewhere in Africa" - which were set-ups for the next "Captain America" movie, “Captain America: Civil War”...
An Instagram account set up for the upcoming movie, has released a few new on-set photos, as well as videos that seem to confirm that those images I posted last week were very likely of Wakanda, which many took objection with.
I also noted that there had been casting calls published, requesting many extras for "African Market scenes" that were to be filmed starting last week. So it was understandable why, to some, what we saw in these images were sets doubling for Wakanda.
Now add to that the following new images and video, all shared on the above Instagram page, all shot on the same set (the "African market" set), featuring Captain America, Falcon, Black Widow, and Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther (although not in costume) in action, accompanied by hashtags that clearly state that Black Panther will also be making an appearance in the sequences being shot in the images and video .
So, put it all together, and I don't think it's entirely impossible that these images are indeed of Black Panther's home - unless they're just some random action sequences in some "African market."
Quoting a commenter from last week: "Wakanda isn't some slum located in the bowels of Africa. It's a high-tech nation hidden away in the jungle. Marvel would be stupid (they aren't stupid) if they turned Wakanda into some 'Slum-dog Millionaire" type location where everyone sleeps in piles of dust and trash. Knowing Marvel, they won't do that. They'll give us the Wakanda from the comics, the one comprised of citadels and other large structures. The one that looks like it came from the year 2525, not 2016."[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://instagram.com/captainamerica_civilwar/"]https://instagram.com/captainamerica_civilwar/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=JaggedFel;1202207]That is pretty good.[/QUOTE]
Took it from deviantart.
Just place some Panther statues in there and tweak the buildings to fit the African aesthetics and boom, you have your Wakanda
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1202156]Would you like Wakanda to look like this in live action
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I also like this image. It has a nice/sleek futuristic look to it, while also incorporating the natural environment.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;1202156]Would you like Wakanda to look like this in live action
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Very cool! Looks pretty similar to the Ultimate version of Wakanda.
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They've taken a lot of ideas from the Ultimate universe so this might not be too far from what we see!
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[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1201195]I hope the Bucky killing T'Chaka thing isn't true. It removes T'Challa's ability to avenge his father. Like if WS is being framed, and Klaue is the killer, that works fine. T'Challa can avenge his father and has his own villain. If WS kills T'Chaka, Klaue loses some of his setup and T'Challa won't get revenge AND I can pretty much guarantee it will involve Steve stopping him from doing it. Because Steve is ALWAYS right.[/QUOTE]
Yup..I hate it.
All it does is prop up Steve's franchise and will ensure T'challa a "doomwar" moment with a nice little speech and all. Don't like it one bit