I was worried Spidey might steal Black Panther's thunder a bit but the whole chase down a motor cycle thing + bullet proof thing is getting just as much attention as Spidey.
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I was worried Spidey might steal Black Panther's thunder a bit but the whole chase down a motor cycle thing + bullet proof thing is getting just as much attention as Spidey.
Guess T'Chaka might be in this. Not sure
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hi res still[/QUOTE]
I love how feline the helm/cowl is. The ears just read "cat" which is great.
Anybody still want to try and argue that the costume doesn't look like the concept art?
[QUOTE=Dboi654;1855717]Guess T'Chaka might be in this. Not sure
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shoulda made the buisness suit vibranium microweave as well
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1855203][B]Dont know whats up with all the Shuri hate, She is s good supporting character an she has come a long way since she was first introduced. I think she has developed into a well rounded character and there is still a role for her to play in the mythos (an important role since BP supporting characters are constantly put into Limbo) It would be foolish to take her out of the mythos. Especially since Coates is forming continuity, and with his earlier comment about adding in some strong females into the story. Using Shuri is almost a given (hopefully Aneka QDJ and Sofia get some use as well. Those are some great characters that should be further explored or atleast appear in a few panels every so often.)
If Shuri ins't in the story then ther better be a really good reason for it and it better not be because she is dead or in a coma because that is just stupid and lazy [/B][/QUOTE]
A long time ago, I used to be one of those Shuri haters when she was first introduced into the mainstream MCU BP mythos because like most, I was dissapointed that T'Challa did not get back to being BP post Doomwar.
But here's the thing, upon further reflection, I gradually began to really appreciate her character when really started looking bat the bigger picture.
Shuri's introduction to the BP mythos, was a meaningful diversity move on the part of Reginald Hudlin, that predated Marvel's current romance with "diversity" by many years.
Her ascension to full BP was hard fought when she put aside personal ambition to take on the threat of Morlun whilst Ororo travelled into the spirit world to rescue T'Challa from the clutches of the aspect of Death that was trying to lure the stricken kings spirit into the afterlife.
That story catapulted Shuri from her previous status as a spoilt and selfish individual with feelings of entitlement, to a fully fledged young woman focused on being the best she could be as Wakandas ruler until her brother got back on his feet.
Even Maberry wrote her exceedingly well during the Power arc leading up to Doomwar as most readers opatiently waited to see T'Challa face off against Doom and become the Black Panther post that Doom-centric event but that wasn't what happened.
Marvel decided to send T'Challa off to Hell's Kitchen on some crazy quest to "find himself" which made absolutely ZERO sense but still, T'Challa fans patiently waited to see where T'Challa's story would lead up until the unexpected cancellation of Black Panther: Most Dangerous Man alive.
A cancellation (I might add) that even took David Liss the writer of said book completely by suprise.
The events that occured during AvX began to make more sense as to why Liss's book was cancelled and Hickman's New Avengers continued the trend of T'Challa's downward spiral disguised (and accepted by some) as character development.
Unfortunately, rather than focusing on what some writers had done that actually nerfed much of the BP mythos, some chose to look to Shuri as being some kind of stumbling block to T'Challa's ascendance whilst crying about how a "place holder" was just robbing T'Challa of panel time and opportunities to be his bad ass self.
The same cats who complain about Shuri being a retconned implant, remain resolutely close mouthed when the subject of White Wolf and Kasper Cole are broached, thus rendering their arguments somewhat hollow and irrational but then again, I've noticed that there seems to be an equal level of hostility towards Queen Divine Justice as well which leaves me wondering whether some readers have a problem with strong independent female characters being part and parcel of the BP mythos?
As my esteemed brothers Ezyo1000 and Realdealholy have pointed out, there's ZERO reason for Shuri to not be part of the BP mythos moving forward unless one just happens to be more invested in admiring T'Challa's biceps and bulging muscles as he leaps into the proverbial fray on some straightup sausage fest laden BP run.
The BP mythos from Christopher J Priest onwards, has always paved the way for strong, well developed female characters of all ethnicities as part of T'Challa's supporting cast so it would be rather unfortunate iof this progressive trend ends.
That would indeed be the height of creative laziness.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1855796]shoulda made the buisness suit vibranium microweave as well[/QUOTE]
I'm just waiting for posters to complain about T'challa crying again.
[QUOTE=Moose100;1855709]They do have Wanda though.[/QUOTE]
True, she's a wild card, but I still think team Stark with BP is way too much for team Cap to handle. However, saying that, I do believe that team Cap will win in the end. Not through physical means but because someone on team Stark (maybe more than one) will switch sides after gaining more information and that will tip the scales in Cap's favor. Just my opinion on how the movie will end.
[QUOTE=Ekie;1855822]I'm just waiting for posters to complain about T'challa crying again.[/QUOTE]
You obviously have a lot of time on your hands then.
I highly doubt that's T'Chaka in that trailer.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1855800]A long time ago, I used to be one of those Shuri haters when she was first introduced into the mainstream MCU BP mythos because like most, I was dissapointed that T'Challa did not get back to being BP post Doomwar.
But here's the thing, upon further reflection, I gradually began to really appreciate her character when really started looking bat the bigger picture.
Shuri's introduction to the BP mythos, was a meaningful diversity move on the part of Reginald Hudlin, that predated Marvel's current romance with "diversity" by many years.
Her ascension to full BP was hard fought when she put aside personal ambition to take on the threat of Morlun whilst Ororo travelled into the spirit world to rescue T'Challa from the clutches of the aspect of Death that was trying to lure the stricken kings spirit into the afterlife.
That story catapulted Shuri from her previous status as a spoilt and selfish individual with feelings of entitlement, to a fully fledged young woman focused on being the best she could be as Wakandas ruler until her brother got back on his feet.
Even Maberry wrote her exceedingly well during the Power arc leading up to Doomwar as most readers opatiently waited to see T'Challa face off against Doom and become the Black Panther post that Doom-centric event but that wasn't what happened.
Marvel decided to send T'Challa off to Hell's Kitchen on some crazy quest to "find himself" which made absolutely ZERO sense but still, T'Challa fans patiently waited to see where T'Challa's story would lead up until the unexpected cancellation of Black Panther: Most Dangerous Man alive.
A cancellation (I might add) that even took David Liss the writer of said book completely by suprise.
The events that occured during AvX began to make more sense as to why Liss's book was cancelled and Hickman's New Avengers continued the trend of T'Challa's downward spiral disguised (and accepted by some) as character development.
Unfortunately, rather than focusing on what some writers had done that actually nerfed much of the BP mythos, some chose to look to Shuri as being some kind of stumbling block to T'Challa's ascendance whilst crying about how a "place holder" was just robbing T'Challa of panel time and opportunities to be his bad ass self.
The same cats who complain about Shuri being a retconned implant, remain resolutely close mouthed when the subject of White Wolf and Kasper Cole are broached, thus rendering their arguments somewhat hollow and irrational but then again, I've noticed that there seems to be an equal level of hostility towards Queen Divine Justice as well which leaves me wondering whether some readers have a problem with strong independent female characters being part and parcel of the BP mythos?
As my esteemed brothers Ezyo1000 and Realdealholy have pointed out, there's ZERO reason for Shuri to not be part of the BP mythos moving forward unless one just happens to be more invested in admiring T'Challa's biceps and bulging muscles as he leaps into the proverbial fray on some straightup sausage fest laden BP run.
The BP mythos from Christopher J Priest onwards, has always paved the way for strong, well developed female characters of all ethnicities as part of T'Challa's supporting cast so it would be rather unfortunate iof this progressive trend ends.
That would indeed be the height of creative laziness.[/QUOTE]
Great post.
I hope in the solo that director Ryan Coogler pulls Shuri and the Dora Milaje (and QDJ, depending on what story they want to go with) into the film. He seems to appreciate having developed female characters in his films (as well as utilizing female professional talent), though nothing as substantial as Shuri has yet appeared.
[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1855881]Great post. [/QUOTE]
Thanks. :cool:
[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1855881]I hope in the solo that director Ryan Coogler pulls Shuri and the Dora Milaje (and QDJ, depending on what story they want to go with) into the film. He seems to appreciate having developed female characters in his films (as well as utilizing female professional talent), though nothing as substantial as Shuri has yet appeared.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully, Ryan Coogler is on that genuinely progressive tip. :)
[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;1855878]I highly doubt that's T'Chaka in that trailer.[/QUOTE]
I find it doubtful as well. I hope it is jsut one of those "T'challa is there" more so than someone dying.
I do hope we see T'challa realize something is wrong before the explosion... enhanced senses pick up on something but its too late
[QUOTE=Ekie;1855822]I'm just waiting for posters to complain about T'challa crying again.[/QUOTE]
I was waiting for this lol
[QUOTE=Holt;1855238][IMG]https://57.media.tumblr.com/a7b3577f35aef8b0bf910590b3a65f3b/tumblr_o3u2ev5pHZ1tf70vho2_540.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1855284]Holy shit
[IMG]https://giant.gfycat.com/HeavyWhirlwindBalloonfish.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[B]B-B-B-Baller!! [/B]
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[B]Also i dunno if T'Challa was crying per se, he looks more in pain since a bomb just went off and even if he was crying, that would make more sense then what he cried about in Hickman's run though im not gonna get into that again. just stating if you know who dies, then it would make sense for him to be upset[/B]
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1855796]shoulda made the buisness suit vibranium microweave as well[/QUOTE]
[B]Even if it was, it would still only absorb so much of the blast as his head is exposed, who knows maybe he is wearing a mircoweave suit and maybe he is the only survivor at that meet...[/B]
[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;1855614]I know T'challa is his own deal, but on the books, based on merchandise, Team Stark is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Team Cap. Those dudes are lucky they have Vision.[/QUOTE]
You mean Wanda.
Team Stark has every other high powered dude on his side.
Unless Ant Man pulls Giant Man mode out, this looks on its face to be a curb stomping.
Then you remember how strong movie Cap and Bucky are.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1856009]You mean Wanda.
Team Stark has every other high powered dude on his side.
Unless Ant Man pulls Giant Man mode out, this looks on its face to be a curb stomping.
Then you remember how strong movie Cap and Bucky are.[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping everyone styles out in this movie.
[QUOTE=neohuey89;1856030]I'm hoping everyone styles out in this movie.[/QUOTE]
That would be fun to watch.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;1856009]You mean Wanda.
Team Stark has every other high powered dude on his side.
Unless Ant Man pulls Giant Man mode out, this looks on its face to be a curb stomping.
Then you remember how strong movie Cap and Bucky are.[/QUOTE]
Well Giant Man is all but confirmed I thought
And yeah... movie cap and bucky are super human. Of course, seems Panther is that way as well....
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Dat Vibranium microweave tho!
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1856056]Well Giant Man is all but confirmed I thought
And yeah... movie cap and bucky are super human. Of course, seems Panther is that way as well....[/QUOTE]
[B]Makes sense, they have to be low level super human in order to distinguish themselves from BW or Hawk Eye[/B]
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1855284]Holy shit
[IMG]https://giant.gfycat.com/HeavyWhirlwindBalloonfish.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Outran Cap, leapt over an Audi (was that a burst of super speed?) and straight tackled Bucky off that bike! THIS is my Black Panther!
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Look at that ricochet off of da right shoulder!
Ahh, Vibranium microweave, how I love thee so.
makes sense though.
If MCU vibranium shield can take a shot from pissed off Thor which levels a forest, I guess a weave can handle some bullets lol
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Impressive. :cool:
[QUOTE=munkitkat;1854877]Honestly, I kind of wish Avengers 3 was more like Ultimates 2 and set up a group of foreign superhereos to act as a counter measure to the US centric Avengers.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see that aswell..
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1856095]makes sense though.
If MCU vibranium shield can take a shot from pissed off Thor which levels a forest, I guess a weave can handle some bullets lol[/QUOTE]
[B]Isn't MCU Shield made out of Adamantium?[/B]
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1855284]Holy shit
[IMG]https://giant.gfycat.com/HeavyWhirlwindBalloonfish.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Too Cool...
[QUOTE=4sake Baned;1856140]I'd like to see that aswell..[/QUOTE]
[B]Uh What?? Ultimates 2?[/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1856141][B]Isn't MCU Shield made out of Adamantium?[/B][/QUOTE]
No.
Fox owns Adamantium
that is why Ultron was made out of vibranium instead of admantium
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1855694]And Kasper Cole and White Wolf were both Christopher J Priest continuity implants so I fail to see the relevance of whatever point you're attempting to make.
I suppose you've held a poll to establish her popularity amongst so called BP "purists". LOL![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;1855800]A long time ago, I used to be one of those Shuri haters when she was first introduced into the mainstream MCU BP mythos because like most, I was dissapointed that T'Challa did not get back to being BP post Doomwar.
But here's the thing, upon further reflection, I gradually began to really appreciate her character when really started looking bat the bigger picture.
Shuri's introduction to the BP mythos, was a meaningful diversity move on the part of Reginald Hudlin, that predated Marvel's current romance with "diversity" by many years.
Her ascension to full BP was hard fought when she put aside personal ambition to take on the threat of Morlun whilst Ororo travelled into the spirit world to rescue T'Challa from the clutches of the aspect of Death that was trying to lure the stricken kings spirit into the afterlife.
That story catapulted Shuri from her previous status as a spoilt and selfish individual with feelings of entitlement, to a fully fledged young woman focused on being the best she could be as Wakandas ruler until her brother got back on his feet.
Even Maberry wrote her exceedingly well during the Power arc leading up to Doomwar as most readers opatiently waited to see T'Challa face off against Doom and become the Black Panther post that Doom-centric event but that wasn't what happened.
Marvel decided to send T'Challa off to Hell's Kitchen on some crazy quest to "find himself" which made absolutely ZERO sense but still, T'Challa fans patiently waited to see where T'Challa's story would lead up until the unexpected cancellation of Black Panther: Most Dangerous Man alive.
A cancellation (I might add) that even took David Liss the writer of said book completely by suprise.
The events that occured during AvX began to make more sense as to why Liss's book was cancelled and Hickman's New Avengers continued the trend of T'Challa's downward spiral disguised (and accepted by some) as character development.
Unfortunately, rather than focusing on what some writers had done that actually nerfed much of the BP mythos, some chose to look to Shuri as being some kind of stumbling block to T'Challa's ascendance whilst crying about how a "place holder" was just robbing T'Challa of panel time and opportunities to be his bad ass self.
The same cats who complain about Shuri being a retconned implant, remain resolutely close mouthed when the subject of White Wolf and Kasper Cole are broached, thus rendering their arguments somewhat hollow and irrational but then again, I've noticed that there seems to be an equal level of hostility towards Queen Divine Justice as well which leaves me wondering whether some readers have a problem with strong independent female characters being part and parcel of the BP mythos?
As my esteemed brothers Ezyo1000 and Realdealholy have pointed out, there's ZERO reason for Shuri to not be part of the BP mythos moving forward unless one just happens to be more invested in admiring T'Challa's biceps and bulging muscles as he leaps into the proverbial fray on some straightup sausage fest laden BP run.
The BP mythos from Christopher J Priest onwards, has always paved the way for strong, well developed female characters of all ethnicities as part of T'Challa's supporting cast so it would be rather unfortunate iof this progressive trend ends.
That would indeed be the height of creative laziness.[/QUOTE]
Knowledge.....
I'm not going to get into any back and forth, but Shuri should be seen as a asset and opportunity. She's a good supporting character, with emphasis on supporting. Black Panther should have strong black female imagery. Shuri, along with Queen Mother and the Dora's will address a very problematic issue with the MCU.
None of it has to be or should be at his expense.
On another note, loved how T'challa out ran Cap, a car and caught Bucky on a bike. Lmao.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1856141][B]Isn't MCU Shield made out of Adamantium?[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope it's comprised of Vibranium.
Fox own the rights to Adamantium.
I kind of feel like he didn't really jump off the car AND grab Bucky. The shot with him falling off theres like no car in the background. Could be wrong though. Still pretty good showing for BP.
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;1856141][B]Isn't MCU Shield made out of Adamantium?[/B][/QUOTE]
No
10 char
[QUOTE=robreedwrites;1855881]Great post.
I hope in the solo that director Ryan Coogler pulls Shuri and the Dora Milaje (and QDJ, depending on what story they want to go with) into the film. He seems to appreciate having developed female characters in his films (as well as utilizing female professional talent), though nothing as substantial as Shuri has yet appeared.[/QUOTE]
The MCU currently lacks non-white female characters of note, and especially black female characters in particular. The BP solo film, which has many viable female characters available (Shuri, Ramonda, the Dora Milaje, QDJ, Nakia/Malice, Okoye, Aneka, Monica Lynne and others), can definitely help fill that gap.
Hell, in theory it should be able to fill that gap on its own.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;1856153]No.
Fox owns Adamantium
that is why Ultron was made out of vibranium instead of admantium[/QUOTE]
I gotta say though .... Ultron didn't really seem all that indestructible in Avengers. For whatever reason to me Cap's shield seemed tougher.
Either way it is kinda cool for the BP mythos that MCU can't use adamantium. Vibranium ends up getting a lot more milage because of it.
[QUOTE=Moose100;1856201]I kind of feel like he didn't really jump off the car AND grab Bucky. The shot with him falling off theres like no car in the background. Could be wrong though. Still pretty good showing for BP.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. It looks different
[QUOTE=Moose100;1856201]I kind of feel like he didn't really jump off the car AND grab Bucky. The shot with him falling off theres like no car in the background. Could be wrong though. Still pretty good showing for BP.[/QUOTE]
That scene was most likely edited for the trailer. T'Challa probably had to gain more ground first. Either way, it gets the point across very well.
[QUOTE=Realdealholy;1856208]The MCU currently lacks non-white female characters of note, and especially black female characters in particular. The BP solo film, which has many viable female characters available (Shuri, Ramonda, the Dora Milaje, QDJ, Nakia/Malice, Okoye, Aneka, Monica Lynne and others), can definitely help fill that gap.
Hell, in theory it should be able to fill that gap on its own.[/QUOTE]
These should all appear in the solo BP movie