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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;920212]Maj clear your pm box[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Double 0;917217]That's a bunch of years from now. I seriously doubt it.[/QUOTE]
Ant Man only has a comic out now because the movie's about a year away.
Captain Marvel's book probably would have been canceled already if not for the upcoming movie.
You guys should be happy: now its actually in Marvel's interest to keep a B.P. book on the stands even if it goes below 20K in sales.
That way no matter what, there will be enough material for a trade paperback or two to be released around the same time as the movie.
I'd expect Marvel to handle Black Panther exactly the same way as Ant Man is being handled now release wise.
Remember, it's going to take Secret Wars a year to end, not counting the prologue and epilogues and what not.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;921083]Ant Man only has a comic out now because the movie's about a year away.
Captain Marvel's book probably would have been canceled already if not for the upcoming movie.
You guys should be happy: now its actually in Marvel's interest to keep a B.P. book on the stands even if it goes below 20K in sales.
That way no matter what, there will be enough material for a trade paperback or two to be released around the same time as the movie.
I'd expect Marvel to handle Black Panther exactly the same way as Ant Man is being handled now release wise.
Remember, it's going to take Secret Wars a year to end, not counting the prologue and epilogues and what not.[/QUOTE]
That's the nice thing about having a movie. It guaranteed that marvel is at least gonna try. Whether or not the book is a sucess will depend on the readership but at least marvel is gonna make sure it's there.
[QUOTE=XPac;921173]That's the nice thing about having a movie. It guaranteed that marvel is at least gonna try. [B]Whether or not the book is a success will depend on the readership[/B] but at least marvel is gonna make sure it's there.[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't it be on the publisher..you know a good product?
[QUOTE=ExcelsiorPrime;921315]Shouldn't it be on the publisher..you know a good product?[/QUOTE]
Plenty of "good" (and I know that's a subjective term) books end up getting cancelled. That's just the reality of the market today. Just like plenty of good tv shows get cancelled, and good movies end up performing poorly at the box office.
Ideally marvel won't publish a book at least SOMEONE thinks it's good. But it's up to the readership, voting with their dollars, to truelly decide whether or not it's a sucess.
[QUOTE=XPac;921398]Plenty of "good" (and I know that's a subjective term) books end up getting cancelled. That's just the reality of the market today. Just like plenty of good tv shows get cancelled, and good movies end up performing poorly at the box office. [/quote]
And, conversely, a lot of really bad stuff lasts longer than it should, simply because there's a suit somewhere backing it. Remember, Marvel is selling to the retailers, not the readers. So long as enough copies are ordered, they don't really care if they end up in the quarter box.
[QUOTE]Ideally marvel won't publish a book at least SOMEONE thinks it's good. But it's up to the readership, voting with their dollars, to truelly decide whether or not it's a sucess.[/QUOTE]
Two words: Hit-Monkey. ;)
I'm not worried about Panther not getting a book in time for the movie. I'm more worried that the book will be given to whichever writer happens to be popular at the time (which I suspect is how Bendis managed to get GOTG), whether he has respect for the character, or will simply force T'Challa to adhere to whatever vision he has.
[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;921416]And, conversely, a lot of really bad stuff lasts longer than it should, simply because there's a suit somewhere backing it. Remember, Marvel is selling to the retailers, not the readers. So long as enough copies are ordered, they don't really care if they end up in the quarter box.
Two words: Hit-Monkey. ;)
I'm not worried about Panther not getting a book in time for the movie. I'm more worried that the book will be given to whichever writer happens to be popular at the time (which I suspect is how Bendis managed to get GOTG), whether he has respect for the character, or will simply force T'Challa to adhere to whatever vision he has.[/QUOTE]
I do imagine there is some degree of wanting to pair up commercially sucessful creative teams with books they HOPE will make it big at the box office. Though I don't think those things are purely decided for commercial reasons... I'll wager the creative team likely needs a good pitch and a desire to write the book, for example. But yeah... if they can stack the deck in the books favor to some degree by putting a hot writer and/or artist on it, I think they're gonna at least try if a movie is coming out.
Say what you want about Guardians, but the book is doing well. And I'm sure that's exactly what they wanted going into the movie. I imagine they would like to replicate that sucess with BP and the rest of the movies coming down the pike.
[QUOTE=ExcelsiorPrime;921315]Shouldn't it be on the publisher..you know a good product?[/QUOTE]
Elektra book was good...but it didn't sell.
She Hulk's book was good and that did not sell either.
There's also PAD's X-Factor, in case you thought it was only books starring females that this happened to.
You can't even say Brian Bendis writing a book is guarantee of success: look at his Moon Knight ( tho I like Bendis' chances for succeeding with any title better than anybody at Marvel other than Warren Ellis).
At least the name guys give the books a better chance of succeeding.
Look at DC: they are gonna let Brian Hitch write Justice League just so he will draw it: they aren't playing around. They are determined t keep that book in the Top Ten.
[QUOTE=XPac;921444]
Say what you want about Guardians, but the book is doing well. And I'm sure that's exactly what they wanted going into the movie. I imagine they would like to replicate that sucess with BP and the rest of the movies coming down the pike.[/QUOTE]
And that's a perfect example. Literally within a month of the movie's success, Star-Lord morphed into an EXACT copy of the movie version, both in appearance and personality, without any explanation. His previous history, even in just the last few years, ceased to exist. Something similar seems to be going on with Scott Lang.
Stuff like that just pisses me off.
Considering Marvel's HQ is based in the same city as the NY Yankees, I'd figure they'd take a tip from the owner. Get a series of high profile 'star' artists on a new [I]Panther [/I]title. Over the past several years it seems like the character has had to mostly settle for solid "journeymen" pencilers (who nonetheless don't 'fill the seats') and recurring "try-out"/"fill-in" folks. It seems like lots of 'star' artists aren't interested in Panther in a non-team context, much like the general apathy of "typical" Panther-haters; and editorial is seemingly uninterested in steering their 'star' talent to draw a [I]Panther [/I]series. Why is that? :confused:
[QUOTE=Hypestyle;921494]Considering Marvel's HQ is based in the same city as the NY Yankees, I'd figure they'd take a tip from the owner. Get a series of high profile 'star' artists on a new [I]Panther [/I]title. Over the past several years it seems like the character has had to mostly settle for solid "journeymen" pencilers (who nonetheless don't 'fill the seats') and recurring "try-out"/"fill-in" folks. It seems like lots of 'star' artists aren't interested in Panther in a non-team context, much like the general apathy of "typical" Panther-haters; and editorial is seemingly uninterested in steering their 'star' talent to draw a [I]Panther [/I]series. Why is that? :confused:[/QUOTE]
I know some may not be thrilled with the idea, but I think Hickman would be the most logical person to be the next solo Black Panther writer. He's essentially been the guy at the characters driver's seat for the last couple years, and he qualifies as one of marvels "architects" at this point. Which isn't to say he's necessarily interested in a BP solo... heck he might want a nice long vacation from marvel after all he's been doing the last few years.
But there's likely a lot of factors in which creative teams go to which book... factors we'll likely never know about. I'm sure the desire to even write the book factors in there pretty heavily, as does how good their pitch for the book is. And TYPICALLY high profile A listers will go to books that they assume will sell well... though at times they may take chances with that sort of thing.
An A lister isn't necessarily a good thing. Next Wave for example was cancelled not because the book sold terribly, but because it didn't quite sell enough to justify keeping the A list creative team it had. That's the double edged sword of it. An A list creative team will likely increase the odds of a book selling well, but the book NEEDS to sell well to justify the A list creative team on it.
In regards to a Black Panther book:
[QUOTE]Alonso: Let's see. A water-fowl, a tree rat and a jungle cat just might factor into our plans.[/QUOTE]
from: [URL="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55660"]http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=55660[/URL]
It's possible he's referring to someone else, but I can't think of another jungle cat (unless White Tiger is getting a solo).
I would expect a solo to come out of Secret Wars, possibly during, since some series are starting then. From what I understand (mainly from the way Brevoort responds on his formspring/tumblr), Secret Wars is going to take ~5 months to publish the eight issues. So May-September. I'd expect a Black Panther series to start at some point there. That way they have something for when the Captain America: Civil War trailer drops (because presumably he's going to be in the trailer, at least as much as War Machine in the first Iron Man 2 trailer). And hopefully we have a good series that catches on, because from that point, it's a bit of a ride to get to the solo film.
[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;921474]And that's a perfect example. Literally within a month of the movie's success, Star-Lord morphed into an EXACT copy of the movie version, both in appearance and personality, without any explanation. His previous history, even in just the last few years, ceased to exist. Something similar seems to be going on with Scott Lang.
Stuff like that just pisses me off.[/QUOTE]
That's my fear for a BP solo . We are going to get a place holder title until we know which way Marvel Studios is taking the character. Which is why a team book might be the best route for the time being. BP gets to re establish ties in the MU and maybe work on a super heroine love interest for him.
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;921083]Ant Man only has a comic out now because the movie's about a year away.
Captain Marvel's book probably would have been canceled already if not for the upcoming movie.
You guys should be happy: now its actually in Marvel's interest to keep a B.P. book on the stands even if it goes below 20K in sales.
That way no matter what, there will be enough material for a trade paperback or two to be released around the same time as the movie.
I'd expect Marvel to handle Black Panther exactly the same way as Ant Man is being handled now release wise.
Remember, it's going to take Secret Wars a year to end, not counting the prologue and epilogues and what not.[/QUOTE]
I should probably clarify that comment.
I meant that they aren't going to wait for the movie or even Civil War to do something with BP. Not even just placeholder stuff. That wouldn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;921416]And, conversely, a lot of really bad stuff lasts longer than it should, simply because there's a suit somewhere backing it. Remember, Marvel is selling to the retailers, not the readers. So long as enough copies are ordered, they don't really care if they end up in the quarter box.
[B]Two words: Hit-Monkey. ;)[/B].[/QUOTE]
Genuine LOled.
Hit-Monkey needs to be Deadpool's Bucky to his Captain America.