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any chance we see T'challa get his vibranium energy daggers and that spear from EMH?
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3484115]I'm not expecting BP to get nominated for anything and that is fine with me.[/QUOTE]
Though honestly don't care whether or not they're nominated for anything either, I do sorta think they at least deserve a nod for costumes.
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Saw the movie again today. Another packed house.
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Some merchandise I want to see and will probably purchase w/o much thought are the ceremonial tribal combat masks. So cool. I would like to see what the other tribes masks look like, as well. Probably buy them, too.
With a little more self control I wouldn't be bleeding money because of this film.
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I wonder if the Soul Stone will be revealed in the next Avengers trailer?
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[QUOTE=tabo61;3484955]I wonder if the Soul Stone will be revealed in the next Avengers trailer?[/QUOTE]
I doubt they'd reveal it in the trailer, since we don't know where it is.
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So, as much as I'm disappointed with T'Challa's depiction in the movie (post-chase) in part because of lessened focus + lack of aspirational elements... (I like my heroes super smart/clever, you see), you gotta understand that's me as a fan of the man himself over everything else.
I did still LOVE the movie itself. Plenty to look up to for black women, for one thing. And now people are asking for more diverse movies. STEM centers being opened in predominantly black areas. The film has IMPACT, and besides enjoying the story itself, it really does mean something. I'll never take that away from it, and I'm looking forward to its continued success.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3484115]I'm not expecting BP to get nominated for anything and that is fine with me.[/QUOTE]
If Suicide Squad can win for best makeup. This film better win for costumes, and make-up at the least. It will be a crime if it doesn’t get nominated atleast. Only movie that I see on the horizon even challenging this is Solo movie.
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[QUOTE=SKJoker;3485015]So, as much as I'm disappointed with T'Challa's depiction in the movie (post-chase) in part because of lessened focus + lack of aspirational elements... (I like my heroes super smart/clever, you see), you gotta understand that's me as a fan of the man himself over everything else.
I did still LOVE the movie itself. Plenty to look up to for black women, for one thing. And now people are asking for more diverse movies. STEM centers being opened in predominantly black areas. The film has IMPACT, and besides enjoying the story itself, it really does mean something. I'll never take that away from it, and I'm looking forward to its continued success.[/QUOTE]
I’m just curious as to why you were disappointed? His smarts were hinted at with him saying he designed his CW suit. Shuri is just smarter than him because she is the smartest person in the MCU.
Post chase you see he has his confidence back when he’s walking towards Kilmonger. He takes out Kilmonger by outsmarting him, using his environment and strategic thinking to his advantage. He also takes out a Vibranium armoured Rhino to show his strength.
Maybe the CGI took you out of these experiences so it didn’t have the impact that should have been there. But his abilities were on full display.
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[QUOTE=Punjabi_Hitman;3485078]I’m just curious as to why you were disappointed? His smarts were hinted at with him saying he designed his CW suit. Shuri is just smarter than him because she is the smartest person in the MCU.
Post chase you see he has his confidence back when he’s walking towards Kilmonger. He takes out Kilmonger by outsmarting him, using his environment and strategic thinking to his advantage. He also takes out a Vibranium armoured Rhino to show his strength.
Maybe the CGI took you out of these experiences so it didn’t have the impact that should have been there. But his abilities were on full display.[/QUOTE]
Well, here's the thing. I don't necessarily mind Shuri being smarter than him. But outside of the first suit, I don't see much else from him that says "T'Challa is one of the smartest people on Earth." Comparatively, in almost every other adaptation, he's showing off his breadth of knowledge in some way or another. For example, hacking Tony's systems in EMH, or talking science with Nightshade, or keeping up with Reed, and the list goes on. Again, we get the suit thing, but his original suit was basically just bulletproof. And had retractable claws.
Interestingly enough, in the interview with the actors, they say that T'Challa is supposed to be at least as smart as his sister, but nothing really puts him close. Everything he does do feels more subtle. Maybe it's because he's a jack of all trades in a way, but the supporting cast showed off their defining traits in force.
Also, while I do accept using his environment to his advantage as situational awareness, it's not necessarily the cunning we've come to expect from T'Challa. Things felt like they just happened to fall into place. Comic T'Challa would have expected the Jabari to come in, and planned accordingly, among other things. But this depiction felt very "T'Challa lite." When kids say they want to be like MCU T'Challa when they grow up, what feats really come to mind? They want to be kings, they want to be strong. But if you say "what do kids get from Nakia, Okoye, or Shuri?" That's when the actual life-changing part of the movie comes in. It's just not from T'Challa himself.
And the thing is, you don't see that coming up as people hating on T'Challa. It's moreso just... everyone who saw the movie found everyone else more interesting. The people who are coming up with the justifications for why T'Challa had so much impact are the people who were super invested in T'Challa himself - us. Others aren't seeing it or even talking about him. Which kind of makes my point.
EDIT: Just reminds me - the STEM center article I read earlier used Shuri as the cover image.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3483495][COLOR="#000080"]Comrade, please.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
With that post do u really think s/he is a comrade?
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[QUOTE=tabo61;3484955]I wonder if the Soul Stone will be revealed in the next Avengers trailer?[/QUOTE]
The next trailer needs as much Black Panther/Wakanda as possible.
My father never saw a marvel movie before black panther and he really wants to see Infinity War after seeing black panther. Alot of non fans will love seeing T'challa again so soon
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[QUOTE=SKJoker;3485170]Well, here's the thing. I don't necessarily mind Shuri being smarter than him. But outside of the first suit, I don't see much else from him that says "T'Challa is one of the smartest people on Earth." Comparatively, in almost every other adaptation, he's showing off his breadth of knowledge in some way or another. For example, hacking Tony's systems in EMH, or talking science with Nightshade, or keeping up with Reed, and the list goes on. Again, we get the suit thing, but his original suit was basically just bulletproof. And had retractable claws.
Interestingly enough, in the interview with the actors, they say that T'Challa is supposed to be at least as smart as his sister, but nothing really puts him close. Everything he does do feels more subtle. Maybe it's because he's a jack of all trades in a way, but the supporting cast showed off their defining traits in force.
Also, while I do accept using his environment to his advantage as situational awareness, it's not necessarily the cunning we've come to expect from T'Challa. Things felt like they just happened to fall into place. Comic T'Challa would have expected the Jabari to come in, and planned accordingly, among other things. But this depiction felt very "T'Challa lite." When kids say they want to be like MCU T'Challa when they grow up, what feats really come to mind? They want to be kings, they want to be strong. But if you say "what do kids get from Nakia, Okoye, or Shuri?" That's when the actual life-changing part of the movie comes in. It's just not from T'Challa himself.
And the thing is, you don't see that coming up as people hating on T'Challa. It's moreso just... everyone who saw the movie found everyone else more interesting. The people who are coming up with the justifications for why T'Challa had so much impact are the people who were super invested in T'Challa himself - us. Others aren't seeing it or even talking about him. Which kind of makes my point.
EDIT: Just reminds me - the STEM center article I read earlier used Shuri as the cover image.[/QUOTE]
You know what feats we can learn from T’Challa. Putting 100% faith into old ways gets you nowhere. That empathy doesn’t make you weak. Us men learning that embracing woman as leaders towards progress is just as effective or even better than just men.
T’Challa learned more from one movie, than Cap did in 3. Why? Because he understood what you think is right isn’t always the case and that putting 100% faith into a system isn’t for the best either. Listening to what others have to say not just men but woman as well and not just people from your own country but people from others as well is the better approach. Embracing change, empathy, nuance, and incorporating it all into finding the best path forward is the way, not forcing your opinion/will on others. Embracing woman and their strengths to help lead the charge. Helping people by making it easier for them to succeed rather than just abandoning them to their own fate. And when you see someone is wrong, stand up to them no matter who they are even if they are your own parents.
Yes woman have Shuri, Okoye, and Nakia to look up to for specific things. But T’Challa has shown what a true MAN should be like.
T’Challa is not the best superhero but the most inspiring MAN in the MCU that every male should inspire to be. Not because he is King of a nation, but because he represents what brings change for the better for everyone. The woman get to shine because he steps aside and doesn’t try to take the spotlight from them. What kind of man does Tony, or Bruce, or Hawkeye, or Thor teach you to be? Other than Cap, no one else has shown they come close.
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i still don't like the idea of Black Panther beating Logos
thats ridiculous
not a slight against T'challa or anything, but just the general concept
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[QUOTE=Punjabi_Hitman;3485364]You know what feats we can learn from T’Challa. Putting 100% faith into old ways gets you nowhere. That empathy doesn’t make you weak. Us men learning that embracing woman as leaders towards progress is just as effective or even better than just men.
T’Challa learned more from one movie, than Cap did in 3. Why? Because he understood what you think is right isn’t always the case and that putting 100% faith into a system isn’t for the best either. Listening to what others have to say not just men but woman as well and not just people from your own country but people from others as well is the better approach. Embracing change, empathy, nuance, and incorporating it all into finding the best path forward is the way rather than forcing your own opinion onto others. And when you see sometime is wrong, stand up to them no matter who they are even if they are your own parents.
Yes woman have Shuri, Okoye, and Nakia to look up to for specific things. But T’Challa has shown what a true MAN should be like.
So far T’Challa is the most inspiring MAN not just hero, in the MCU that every male should inspire to be. Not because he is King of a nation, but because he is what brings change for the better. What kind of man does Tony, or Bruce, or Hawkeye, or Thor teach you to be? Other than Cap, no one else has shown they come close.[/QUOTE]
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