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I guess BET still has the rights to this cartoon. Time to hop on the BP train
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throwback!
[video=youtube;Syd2Ny49m9g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syd2Ny49m9g[/video]
I guess BET still has the rights to this cartoon. Time to hop on the BP train
Killmonger: "Is this your king?"
Bane: "You fight like young man, nothing held back... Admirable but mistaken!"
Which super hero got that @$$ beat the worst Batman or Black Panther?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuetklFtDQ[/url]
Tale of the tape...
Bane beat Batman down in front of Catwoman and some random League of Shadows dudes after revealing his secret identity of Mister Wayne!
Killmonger beat King T'challa down in front of his girl, his mom, his sister and the whole Wakandan council and threw him off the waterfall to his apparent doom!
Bane broke Batman's back while mocking him relentlessly and then tossed the bat cowl to the side like last years bird doo stained newspaper!
Killmonger stabbed and G-checked T'challa Oaktown style and made it look like an old school NWA album cover!
You be the judge...
[QUOTE=MouserGrey;3497647]T'Challa was Killmonger in CW until he learned not to by watching Tony and Steve fighting. I'm sure someone can quote what he said. I don't remember exactly. T'Challa gave Erik the chance to change his mind, even offered him mercy, but Erik is not T'Challa. He would not or could not complete the hero's journey, which is why he is not the hero.[/QUOTE]
Indeed,
T'Challa is the "hero" whose actions in AvX, and Hickman's New Avengers/Secret Wars ll led to Wakanda being destroyed and Shuri dying.
Give me Killmonger all day, everyday.
Yeah, I said it.
Every other Black Panther other than T'Challa has defended Wakanda without divided loyalties yet he gets praised as being the greatest ever for opening Wakanda up to the same colonisers previous Black Panthers including his Grandfather Azzuri and his Father, T'Chaka stood resolutely against.
T'Challa has been milquetoast dating back to Hickman's saga.
Coates just followed through from where Hickman left off as far as the mischaraterisation of T'Challa goes.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3498072]Indeed,
T'Challa is the "hero" whose actions in AvX, and Hickman's New Avengers/Secret Wars ll led to Wakanda being destroyed and Shuri dying.
Give me Killmonger all day, everyday.
Yeah, I said it.
Every other Black Panther other than T'Challa has defended Wakanda without divided loyalties yet he gets praised as being the greatest ever for opening Wakanda up to the same colonisers previous Black Panthers including his Grandfather Azzuri and his Father, T'Chaka stood resolutely against.
T'Challa has been milquetoast dating back to Hickman's saga.
Coates just followed through from where Hickman left off as far as the mischaraterisation of T'Challa goes.[/QUOTE]
Aren't you mixing up your Killmongers. The one from the comics would sell vibranium, the heart shape herb, and anything else he could get his hands on to the highest bidder.
[QUOTE=Cville;3498091]Aren't you mixing up your Killmongers. The one from the comics would sell vibranium, the heart shape herb, and anything else he could get his hands on to the highest bidder.[/QUOTE]
MU/MCU Killmonger, different characters, same single mindedness.
MU/MCU T'Challa, same character, same milquetoast. and twice as mentally distracted and mentally divided from his ancestors.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3498197]MU/MCU Killmonger, different characters, same single mindedness.
MU/MCU T'Challa, same character, same milquetoast. and twice as mentally distracted and mentally divided from his ancestors.[/QUOTE]
How MCU Tchalla Milquetoast? If he is than every other MCU character is too because they all use the same formula.
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3498072]Indeed,
T'Challa is the "hero" whose actions in AvX, and Hickman's New Avengers/Secret Wars ll led to Wakanda being destroyed and Shuri dying.
Give me Killmonger all day, everyday.
Yeah, I said it.
Every other Black Panther other than T'Challa has defended Wakanda without divided loyalties yet he gets praised as being the greatest ever for opening Wakanda up to the same colonisers previous Black Panthers including his Grandfather Azzuri and his Father, T'Chaka stood resolutely against.
T'Challa has been milquetoast dating back to Hickman's saga.
Coates just followed through from where Hickman left off as far as the mischaraterisation of T'Challa goes.[/QUOTE]
A hero in fiction or mythology has to go through personal change to save the day. Although T'Challa did not have to travel far, he is still the hero. Erik wasn't out to save anything. And I doubt would have any kind of epiphany if he had succeeded with his ambitions. He didn't care about those he said he wanted to save. They would have burned with everything else he touched. I know I would not have joined him. I know and love too many people who might be considered colonisers that I would defend withy life from assholes like him.
[QUOTE=Cville;3498218]How MCU Tchalla Milquetoast? If he is than every other MCU character is too because they all use the same formula.[/QUOTE]
And that's exactly by design. Marvel super heroes have feet of clay. They are flawed. They mess up. They struggle. It's always more about character than power ... and that's what makes it a journey. They get where they need to be at the end of the movie.
[COLOR="#000080"]I can understand MCU Killmonger's POV but I can't accept his methods. True, there is a time to fight but the idea of killing millions of innocent people is not an idea I can get behind.
He's no hero.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3498197]MU/MCU Killmonger, different characters, same single mindedness.
MU/MCU T'Challa, same character, same milquetoast. and twice as mentally distracted and mentally divided from his ancestors.[/QUOTE]
[B]I'll give you MU Tchalla brotha Maj since comics side of marvel gives Zero fucks about elevating him correctly, otherwise Coates would of been gone, Evans would be getting more support for his book and Hudlin or Redjack would be killing it on BP.
But MCU Tchalla ain't milquetoast. He ain't letting rape happen, he ain't delegating his feats to supporting cast not apart of his Mythos, and he ain't saying hot me to enemies. He is bodying fools, catching baddies, giving baddies those hands, and bot giving speeches instead of taking action. So Again I respectfully disagree:cool:[/B]
The original Wakandan Wardog!
Nakia and Okoye take notes this is an O.G. call I'm keeping her...
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkhh5JytYE[/url]
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3498376]The original Wakandan Wardog!
Nakia and Okoye take notes this is an O.G. call I'm keeping her...
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkhh5JytYE[/url][/QUOTE]
If someone hadn't posted about Grace Jones on Facebook before I saw the movie I would have missed that reference to her at the beginning.
Hey Mickey "Money" Mouse where is my Royal Talon Fighter... This Lego ish aint working I need something to do sandbox battles with Tie-fighters and X-wing fighters that won't fall apart like a puzzle I need to reassemble very other crash landing! (Lego parts get lost under the sofa in the sofa behind the sofa who needs that work)
Barbie Doll gets all types of extra playhouse things and Matchbox never gets caught slipping on them toy cars like ever... I mean like WTF!!!
T-shirts, gym shoes, backpacks, Kimoyo beads and coffee mugs are okay week one but to not have one of the best tech fighter crafts this side of light bending Predator ships is seriously off yo game!
In the era of drones flying over your neighbors backyard fence how is this not available for public consumption 800 million box office dollars later!
I should be able to walk right into a hobby shop past all them little trains and World War 2 model airplanes and ask that Country Time lemonade drinking old dude dressed like a Bob The Builder reject for a "Royal Talon Fighter" to piece together with Gorilla Glue all day every day!
Who at Disney is not on their grind and overlooked this easy to sell merchandise... How do you F that up???
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA11gnz9eBA[/url]
The Killmonger Wet Drop...
There... I just named the next hit water ride at Disneyland where you fall over a giant waterfall and get your cotton candy all wet and soggy!
Mickey "Mouse" Mouse you're welcome!
Funnily enough, no one has been able to refute or repudiate the general thrust of my argument as regards T'Challa's actions having brought deat and destruction directly to the doorstep of the very people he's supposedly honor bound to protect.
Wakandans.
If every other Monarch preceding T'Challa had adopted his "we are the world" attitude towards the rest of the world, there would have been no Wakanda for him to inherit and herein lies my whole problem with the overall conceit in the way T'Challa has been neutered mostly within the comicsverse and to a lesser degree within the movieverse.
In the comics, writers like Priest, returned T'Challa to his original glory as envisaged by Lee & Kirby but undermined his forward trajectory with the nonsensical aneurysm angle that wasn't resolved before the book was cancelled.
Writers like Maberry and Coates, have done nothing for T'Challa as a character other than to run his personal mythos into the proverbial ground whilst using said mythos, as a convenient platform to get writing gigs more to their liking.
Hickman initially wrote T'Challa in character in the opening issues of the New Avengers but as time went on, the genesis of T'Challa's transformation from fully able protagonist to milquetoast oathbreaker, began.
Coates has spent the last two years chronicling the misadventures of T'Challa juxtaposed against the excellence of his supporting cast and obligatory mutants who drop in quite frequently to do what Wakandans of yore did for themselves quite effectively.
As for MCU T'Challa, I still maintain that his depiction in Captain America:Civil War was a lot more dynamic and impactful than was the case in his own freaking movie regardless of how dope the overall package ended up being.
There's a reason why Okoye, Shuri and M'Baku have been getting rave reviews all over the place willy nilly across all demographics on a global scale.
It's not as if movie goers were waxing loquacious about Valkyrie or any of Thor's supporting cast in the Ragnarok movie.