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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2861299]Wakanda is a rich country capable of funding things? Ewing has followed the same narrative that the incursions happened but are somehow only distantly remembered. IIRC, Ms. Marvel has mentioned some of the events at her school from End of Days, if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]
Just to throw this out there, India right now is creating a space program, and half it's population lack proper toilers.
If Wakanda is funding a space program at a time when Wakanda is in bad economic shape, it frankly actually helps the narrative as far as people being angry with him. And both sides are justifiable. From the angry Wakandans perspective, it's a terrible time to channel vast amounts of resources away from Wakanda. From T'CHalla's, it doesn't matter what sort of shape Wakanda is in if the multiverse is destroyed again.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;2861482]T'Challa wasn't king.[/QUOTE]
ANd if Shuri were still alive, one would wonder if things would have ended different at the start of Coates run.
Still, even though T'Challa wasn't king there are still valid reasons to blame him for a lot of that. Not necessarily saying I agree with that arguement as I do believe T'Challa made the right calls despite Wakanda taking hits, but if you're the Wakandans taking the hits it's understandable.
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You could easily see T'Challa after everything that happened in Infinity/Time Runs Out/Secret Wars(!) prioritizing an proactive FF like team above all else.
After all he knows what its like to be the last dude to know when Cosmic World Ending Hijinks go down.
His country wasn't literally on fire for the moment, he needed to make sure stuff like the Incursion never happens again.
If this wasn't a comic book where we know nothing ever sticks you could argue that he was RIGHT: curing Galactus will save uncounted Billions over uncounted
eons (assuming it would ever stick).
Yeah, the Wakandans were unhappy but this guys remembers the Universe being erased not that long ago-his priorities were bigger.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2860559]In hindsight I'm actually suprised that Hickman thought Marvel would be willing to go along with his ending, if it essentially retconned the entire multiverse since NA 1. That's a LOT of stories that magically went away.
Though maybe he didn't care one way or the other, since he was on his way out anyways.[/QUOTE]
By that point [B]everybody[/B] just wanted the story complete and out the door-there were several delays in production.
And good luck getting Hickman to rewrite the ending with one foot out the door. They've (Marvel) have just more or
less low key ignored the implications of Secret Wars ending.
Its really only an issue around these parts anyway (and for the more rabid Miles Morales fans/haters, I guess).
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2861299][B]Wakanda is a rich country capable of funding things?[/B] Ewing has followed the same narrative that the incursions happened but are somehow only distantly remembered. IIRC, Ms. Marvel has mentioned some of the events at her school from End of Days, if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yes exactly, you understand this that Wakanda is capable of doing such things, yet in Coates run you would think they barely had an economy due to how "Stretched out" Ther are or how "Resources are to thin" yet he is chilling with the Ultimates like there is no issue what so ever, being able to throw his political weight on things. Again, why is it that the Rest of the MU can move forward and do cool stuff, and continue to grow while T'Challa has to be shackled down with "realism" and dealing with the aftermath of things which the stories being told, do more harm then good? There hasn't been a single good thing to come out of these stories, no new feats, no memorable moments, no cool l tech feats or anything. We have Force push (a cool addition that has now become overused to supplement for poor/lazy writing for fight scenes) and a spirit spear that literally appeared out of thin air. By now, in Priest and Hudlin's runs we had several cool feats and interesting things to discuss. [/B]
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[QUOTE=XPac;2861495]Just to throw this out there, India right now is creating a space program, and half it's population lack proper toilers.
If Wakanda is funding a space program at a time when Wakanda is in bad economic shape, it frankly actually helps the narrative as far as people being angry with him. And both sides are justifiable. From the angry Wakandans perspective, it's a terrible time to channel vast amounts of resources away from Wakanda. From T'CHalla's, it doesn't matter what sort of shape Wakanda is in if the multiverse is destroyed again.[/QUOTE]
[B]And it literally makes zero sense. Again, You can't say, the Black order attacked Wakanda again with any sort of logic when Thanos wasn't even around to initiate the attack (as the whole point was to find his son) Wakanda and Atlantis weren't at war otherwise when SS debuted they would of already been destroyed/rebuilding and thus Namor wouldn't of sent Thanos heading that way (also, again, Thanos wasn't around) so all in all it makes zero sense for Wakanda to be in the shape its in what so ever. It would of Maybe made more sense if the reality Gem was used, so Wakanda has been restored but then everyone remembers the defeat they had. also the funny thing is, In BP wow and just in general the Black Order the second time around,w as driven out of Wakanda and defeated.. So tell me.. how was Wakanda conquered by the Black order when they pushed them out? conqured means they lost, not pushed to the edge, then turned things around and drove the enemy back.. sense the Time gewm was used you cannot logically say that Wakanda having the title of unconquered, now loses that title if the circumstance in which it happened the first time cease to exist.. Again Coates logic and story falls to pieces.[/B]
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BP #15 variant cover by Jamie Mckelvie.
[IMG]https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL047423?type=1[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2861646][B]And it literally makes zero sense. Again, You can't say, the Black order attacked Wakanda again with any sort of logic when Thanos wasn't even around to initiate the attack (as the whole point was to find his son) Wakanda and Atlantis weren't at war otherwise when SS debuted they would of already been destroyed/rebuilding and thus Namor wouldn't of sent Thanos heading that way (also, again, Thanos wasn't around) so all in all it makes zero sense for Wakanda to be in the shape its in what so ever. It would of Maybe made more sense if the reality Gem was used, so Wakanda has been restored but then everyone remembers the defeat they had. also the funny thing is, In BP wow and just in general the Black Order the second time around,w as driven out of Wakanda and defeated.. So tell me.. how was Wakanda conquered by the Black order when they pushed them out? conqured means they lost, not pushed to the edge, then turned things around and drove the enemy back.. sense the Time gewm was used you cannot logically say that Wakanda having the title of unconquered, now loses that title if the circumstance in which it happened the first time cease to exist.. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Again Coates logic and story falls to pieces.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]
Wakandans remember the Incursions yet are pissed because T'Challa is trying to safeguard the planet from other possible threats. He's blamed because it was his fault that Wakanda was invaded while he trying to save the whole planet. Twice.
Logic got tossed out the window.
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I'm going to need that full picture with the variant.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;2861670]Wakandans remember the Incursions yet are pissed because T'Challa is trying to safeguard the planet from other possible threats. He's blamed because it was his fault that Wakanda was invaded while he trying to save the whole planet. Twice.
Logic got tossed out the window.[/QUOTE]
[B]
It just makes very little sense what is being done. comics are about moving forward, not being dragged down by the past and other dumb shit. Elevation and reaching new heights for the Hero, not shackling them and making them weaker and less capable then they were prior[/B]
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[QUOTE=XPac;2861495]Just to throw this out there, India right now is creating a space program, and half it's population lack proper toilers.
If Wakanda is funding a space program at a time when Wakanda is in bad economic shape, it frankly actually helps the narrative as far as people being angry with him. And both sides are justifiable. From the angry Wakandans perspective, it's a terrible time to channel vast amounts of resources away from Wakanda. From T'CHalla's, it doesn't matter what sort of shape Wakanda is in if the multiverse is destroyed again.[/QUOTE]
The narrative doesn't make sense considering the total land area of Wakanda. India's population totals up to billions and i'll be shocked if Wakanda is even close to 50 millions and being the most technological nation in the world makes this narrative even more nonsensical.
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[QUOTE=DeathGods;2861925]The narrative doesn't make sense considering the total land area of Wakanda. India's population totals up to billions and i'll be shocked if Wakanda is even close to 50 millions and being the most technological nation in the world makes this narrative even more nonsensical.[/QUOTE]
6 million at the max
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[QUOTE=Cville;2861947]6 million at the max[/QUOTE]
lol! that is like a little over a population of a city
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[QUOTE=Cville;2861947]6 million at the max[/QUOTE]
[B]Its the size of new Jersey is what was said in the past.[/B]
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Also being a fictional country, Wakanda doesn't need to abide by any real world scenarios. Wakanda does not equal India.