[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3767772]It is essentially a "what if" story.[/QUOTE]
What If stories can be significant. Days of Future Past is probably the best example of that.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3767772]It is essentially a "what if" story.[/QUOTE]
What If stories can be significant. Days of Future Past is probably the best example of that.
[QUOTE=XPac;3767780]What If stories can be significant. Days of Future Past is probably the best example of that.[/QUOTE]
DoFP isn't what if. That future happenes and Kitty goes back to change it. If anything the current timeline is what if.lol
[QUOTE=Cville;3767799]DoFP isn't what if. That future happenes and Kitty goes back to change it. If anything the current timeline is what if.lol[/QUOTE]
Eh.
"What If? Mystique killed Senator Kelly"
It wasn't meant to be a permanent story. Claremont had an "elseworlds" tale with a beginning, middle, and a clear resolution.
Oddly enough, DofP was referenced just this past week, in X-MEN GOLD. So it's still canon.
Just once, I want to hear T'Challa say, "Every breath you take... is my favorite track of of SYNCHRONICITY." :D
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3766327]I am a big Aaron fan but...
Avengers has been a disappointment.
It is just "there." There really haven't been any cool character interactions, no cool big moments (sub was neat today), I actually don't like the art at all and I don't feel like it fits the book
It isn't "bad" it is just a read, shrug, move on type book.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I hate to say it but I have to agree. This is not a wow type book.
I don't care about the prehistoric Avengers and I'm tired of the Celestials. It's overkill with them at this point. Hickman already did the crazy Celestial story in FF and it was better.
Don't care for the art either. Everything is blocky.
No surrender had a better story, art and villains. Maybe it'll get better after the first arc.
The best "Avengers" book so far has been Slott's Iron Man.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3767597]Similar to House of M and Age of Apocalypse. Some things might sneak in such as characters, but long term it won't mean anything once Tchalla is back home.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I asked a while back if anything from the Space Empire arc will make it back to regular continuity. Right now, it doesn't look like anything.
Having Nakia and M'Baku in heroic roles is just trying to get a little shine from their movie counter-parts.
Coates should have started his run with this story and worked back to how T'Challa got here and working on getting him back to Wakanda.
It wouldn't have been as divisive as that mess he started with.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3767468]Off topic, but MoS, you are an Inhuman fan. What did you think of Death of Inhumans?
I think Cates blew the roof off. If God Butcher had a little brother, this would be it.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]I haven't read it but I like what Cates did on Thanos.
I like the Inhumans and I hope the title doesn't really mean what is says.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Cville;3767468]Off topic, but MoS, you are an Inhuman fan. What did you think of Death of Inhumans?
I think Cates blew the roof off. If God Butcher had a little brother, this would be it.[/QUOTE]
I'm apprehensive that it's just done in a vindictive way to kill off characters to appease certain fans. However, so far, while it's absolutely brutal, I don't think it's done from a malicious standpoint and Cates seems to respect and be genuinely interested in the Inhumans (certainly, at least, interested in Black Bolt).
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3767594][B]I think it's going to become his new catchphrase. This the 3rd time it's been used. Though Erik said it rather then Tchalla[/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, N'Jadaka said it this time (probably not best to call him Erik in this story). When was it used before in comics (besides the original Hickman time)?
[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3768174]I'm apprehensive that it's just done in a vindictive way to kill off characters to appease certain fans. However, so far, while it's absolutely brutal, I don't think it's done from a malicious standpoint and Cates seems to respect and be genuinely interested in the Inhumans (certainly, at least, interested in Black Bolt).[/quote]
I think it is malicious for editorial, Cates is just a good writer.
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Yeah, N'Jadaka said it this time (probably not best to call him Erik in this story). When was it used before in comics (besides the original Hickman time)?[/QUOTE]
Just hickman, then movie, now this story
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It wouldn't have been as divisive as that mess he started with.
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Yep.
Him messing with the Reality Stone through him into this reality on accident.
[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3768230]I think it is malicious for editorial, Cates is just a good writer. [/quote]
Marvel's not above lying to us, but everyone says Cates pitched the idea.
[quote]Just hickman, then movie, now this story[/QUOTE]
Ah, gotcha. I'm following. That's why I went with the "you shouldn't have signed it" thing. It was an iconic moment when used in Born Again, but Mark Waid used it again pretty far out of context just because people would go "oh, I remember that thing!" I feel kind of like that's what it's here. There's nothing wrong with its use here, mind you, it's just that you can see that it was a very deliberate choice.
[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;3768250]Marvel's not above lying to us, but everyone says Cates pitched the idea.
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Hell, Cates isn't above lying either lol. Dude straight up lied about writing Venom in the not too distant past.
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3767931][COLOR="#000080"]I asked a while back if anything from the Space Empire arc will make it back to regular continuity. Right now, it doesn't look like anything.
Having Nakia and M'Baku in heroic roles is just trying to get a little shine from their movie counter-parts.
Coates should have started his run with this story and worked back to how T'Challa got here and working on getting him back to Wakanda.
It wouldn't have been as divisive as that mess he started with.
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I think the most useful take away from the space arc might be the main villain.
Presumably he's going to be dethroned. Going after T'Challa for revenger or whatever wouldn't be all that surprising.
[QUOTE=XPac;3768275]I think the most useful take away from the space arc might be the main villain.
Presumably he's going to be dethroned. Going after T'Challa for revenger or whatever wouldn't be all that surprising.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000080"]If he makes it to this reality, maybe. But I get the feeling T'Challa or somebody(Nakia?) will most likely kill him.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3768310][COLOR="#000080"]If he makes it to this reality, maybe. But I get the feeling T'Challa or somebody(Nakia?) will most likely kill him.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Maybe not even the actual villain... maybe just his suit.
If the symbionte (assuming it's a symbiote) can hitch a ride with T'CHalla maybe it can find it's way to the Killmonger or something.