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The problem with having a literal god in comics defeats the purpose of also having an actual living breathing super hero in comics!
The hero itself plays god once he, she or it gets to saving people... This was covered in the recent Superman (Man of Steel) movies as people began to worship him and build monuments to his namesake!
Thor is technically a Norse god but once he starts dating Jane Foster he's that dude that happens to be super powered with the hot scientist girlfriend!
Bast basically qualifies as an absentee god that serves no real purpose especially when Thanos comes to town and turns his representative to ashes!
What do you do with Bast or any other form of cat god that throws no punches or bothers to defend his own people in times of trouble!
Religion sometimes spoils the idea/ideal of escapism when the reason you bought a comic book, played a video game or watched a movie was to mentally cosplay as the hero you focused on!
If there was a bat god wouldn't that ruin the very point of a Batman stalking Gotham City? Either you fear god or the Bat pick one!
Bast could disappear or never be mentioned again and Black Panther in a technologically advanced unconquered nation inside of Africa would still make that money regardless!
Bast is one of those moving parts that really serves no significant purpose knowing that you can chill with Odin have Galactus show up and fully expect Odin to lead the charge in defense of life without praying first or lighting incense candles!
If you are a god in comics you have to get involved in the fight very often just as other high powered beings or you have no reason to exist at least on panel!
Bast: "A little help... Could someone please change my kitty litter!"
King T'challa: "WTF do you do around here? In the movie you showed us the heart shaped herb and then disappeared, in comics you sided with Doom in Doomwar and yeah you helped me out against Mephisto but that's beside the point... What do you really do on panel or off? Are you scared of Galactus, the Celestials or the Beyonder? What exactly are your god power specs?"
Bast: "Why you bringing up old ish just pet me and let me out the back door I'll be back in a few days so have my milk ready when I return!"
King T'challa: "I am thoroughly convinced that the reason 1.3 billion dollars worth of fans showed out to see my movie was not because of you in any way whatsoever! If the movie featured someone finding the heart shaped herb by accident it would have made no difference once they flashback to Oakland!"
Bast: "Yeah, but you know black folks love them some mysticism... You need me!"
King T'challa: "And yet my comic sales are the most sporadic and inconsistent of any character because we have way too many moving parts and you are one of them! Most comic book super hero baseball cards rarely list that character's god let alone their religion! We could make up some type of cat powers origins and still get the black vote by default!"
Bast: "Quit tripping and stroke my back for me!"
King T'challa: "Where is The Point Man this is getting old you seem to be real problem for writers to depict time and time again!"
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3747593]The problem with having a literal god in comics defeats the purpose of also having an actual living breathing super hero in comics!
The hero itself plays god once he, she or it gets to saving people... This was covered in the recent Superman (Man of Steel) movies as people began to worship him and build monuments to his namesake!
Thor is technically a Norse god but once he starts dating Jane Foster he's that dude that happens to be super powered with the hot scientist girlfriend!
Bast basically qualifies as an absentee god that serves no real purpose especially when Thanos comes to town and turns his representative to ashes!
What do you do with Bast or any other form of cat god that throws no punches or bothers to defend his own people in times of trouble!
Religion sometimes spoils the idea/ideal of escapism when the reason you bought a comic book, played a video game or watched a movie was to mentally cosplay as the hero you focused on!
If there was a bat god wouldn't that ruin the very point of a Batman stalking Gotham City? Either you fear god or the Bat pick one!
Bast could disappear or never be mentioned again and Black Panther in a technologically advanced unconquered nation inside of Africa would still make that money regardless!
Bast is one of those moving parts that really serves no significant purpose knowing that you can chill with Odin have Galactus show up and fully expect Odin to lead the charge in defense of life without praying first or lighting incense candles!
If you are a god in comics you have to get involved in the fight very often just as other high powered beings or you have no reason to exist at least on panel!
Bast: "A little help... Could someone please change my kitty litter!"
King T'challa: "WTF do you do around here? In the movie you showed us the heart shaped herb and then disappeared, in comics you sided with Doom in Doomwar and yeah you helped me out against Mephisto but that's beside the point... What do you really do on panel or off? Are you scared of Galactus, the Celestials or the Beyonder? What exactly are your god power specs?"
Bast: "Why you bringing up old ish just pet me and let me out the back door I'll be back in a few days so have my milk ready when I return!"
King T'challa: "I am thoroughly convinced that the reason 1.3 billion dollars worth of fans showed out to see my movie was not because of you in any way whatsoever! If the movie featured someone finding the heart shaped herb by accident it would have made no difference once they flashback to Oakland!"
Bast: "Yeah, but you know black folks love them some mysticism... You need me!"
King T'challa: "And yet my comic sales are the most sporadic and inconsistent of any character because we have way too many moving parts and you are one of them! Most comic book super hero baseball cards rarely list that character's god let alone their religion! We could make up some type of cat powers origins and still get the black vote by default!"
Bast: "Quit tripping and stroke my back for me!"
King T'challa: "Where is The Point Man this is getting old you seem to be real problem for writers to depict time and time again!"[/QUOTE]
[B]So what your saying is that bast should act like TPG in gilis run In Which if need be, she can take on a Avatar and wreck shit if she doesn't like how things are going? I thought that was always a cool aspect how Tchalla literally fought and defeated his god in Avatar form from gilis run, as well as having his own sinister 6 like Team with the supremacists group that he got to out hands all over[/B]
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love these scans cant wait until weds!
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3745527]Okay this one's for butterflykiss... :cool:
Wakanda, the throne room.
The elders gather with concerned looks on their faces murmuring with shocked looks.
Nakia enters to a muted sound that only a pin dropping could echo to...
Nakia: "My lord you wished to speak to me."
King T'challa: "The elders requested this meeting take a seat please."
Just then Ororo Munroe aka Storm emerges from behind a curtain and hands the king a Kimoyo bead that digitally blinks to life and reveals a twerking Nakia.
The elders gasp and then focus their attention upon the red faced... Well actually more purple since she is dark complexioned Nakia who is caught off guard by the revelation.
Storm standing just behind King T'challa sends a mocking grin at her "Adversary" (AHEM) with that "I gotchoo b!tch" stare.
King T'challa: "Explain!"
Nakia: "It was a Wardog mission... I was infiltrating a show hosted by LL Cool J to gain some valuable intel for Wakanda!"
King T'challa: "LL Cool J?"
Nakia: "It means Ladies Love Cool James... I swear it was all for Wakanda you gotta believe me!"
Storm leans over and whispers something into King T'challa's ear, looks up and winks at Nakia causing her a fit of fluster at the audacity.
Nakia: "Why is she here... She is an outsider she is not one of us."
King T'challa: "I sent Storm, a personal friend of mine, on a Wardog mission to spy on you beloved!"
Nakia: "What kind of convoluted BOOLSHET is this?"
Storm grabs the bottom of her lip revealing a Wardog tattoo just below her pearly whites.
Nakia: "OH HELL TO THE NAW... I saved you and your family from Killmonger and this is the thanks that I get! This place is a mad house I tell you a mad house! Spy's everywhere!"
King T'challa: "This is a disgrace and your Lip Syncing sucked at that... You are not fit to be queen of Wakanda!"
As rage flows through the king of Wakanda Storm begins to rub his shoulders ever so gently soothing his anger.
Nakia: "And she is?"
King T'challa: "Storm has put in valuable work for Wakanda she will make a great queen... And since you always wanted to work outside of Wakanda so badly I hereby banish you from inside the borders of Wakanda!"
As security escorts a disgruntled Nakia bordering on malice out of the throne room Storm squeezes the hand of King T'challa and with a lightning twitch in her eyes boldly proclaims...
Storm: "Bye Felica!"
That's all you get butterflykiss enjoy... :)[/QUOTE]
lmfao lololololol this was hilarious thanks for this my friend I needed the laugh.
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The problem with Bast is like if you showed up at church, prayed and then went to the parking lot and got jumped by an outlaw biker gang of cyber ninjas and Jesus himself showed up and served them dudes a whipping... So why did you spend all that time in MMA class or concealing that light saber in your Blade Son of Shaft leather coat!
And speaking of Jesus does Bast believe in turning the right cheek or loving thy neighbor... What exactly is Bast's biblical standard as a god because Thor drinks alcohol and does have sex out of wedlock!
Does Bast pray to the east as Muslims do... Is he Kosher and does not approve of pork in Wakanda... Gay marriage... Age of consent for sex... Heaven or hell... A real living devil doing dastardly deeds???
Captain America is often depicted as a white Christian male so does he ever try to convert T'challa and what does Bast think of this!
Tony Stark is depicted as more atheist if he met Bast personally does he become a believer if he witnesses this god doing really not much more than most intergalactic super powered beings!
If Tom Cruise hit T'challa up on Scientology is Bast allowing that or what?
Bast is something that a cartoon like Southpark would have a field day with... It's time to get her definitive baseball card stats in order and make some choices about what she does and what she stands for and why!
Real religions have too many moving parts for most super hero comic books unless it was in fact a religious comic to begin with and that is a whole other thread entirely!
Loki: "We have a Hulk!"
T'challa: "We have a Bast!"
Bast: "MEOW and stuff!"
Loki: "T'challa let's just me and you fight and give these people the show that they paid for in the first place... Wait, is your god licking itself!"
Bast: "Just giving myself a bath over here and then we fighting!"
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Having Coates writing a Black Panther solo is equivalent to having g an X-writer on this book.
Pure bumbaclat confusion.
On a serious note, how on earth do Marvel Editorial justify having this obvious BP hater churning out this misaligned garbage month after month especially in the wake of the Black Panther movies overwhelming global success at the box office?
Real talk.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3747745]Having Coates writing a Black Panther solo is equivalent to having g an X-writer on this book.
Pure bumbaclat confusion.
On a serious note, how on earth do Marvel Editorial justify having this obvious BP hater churning out this misaligned garbage month after month especially in the wake of the Black Panther movies overwhelming global success at the box office?
Real talk.[/QUOTE]
Oh, that's easy. The books sell (enough), especially with the appropriate gimmicks, incentives, and occasional flat-out cheating. And they get to row to the press that they have someone famous, intellectual, and socially-relevant on the book.
It's incredibly short-sighted, and shows a remarkable lack of ability to discern what their audience actually WANTS, but then again, Marvel has been like that for over a decade now. You've seen my rant on Doctor Strange, I believe.
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Honestly, I don't have a problem with having a deity as a supporting character. I've seen it done before (for example, in those runs on Moon Knight when he isn't depicted as crazy) and there are ways to handle it that don't make the protagonist look weak. But it's not _easy_, and quite honestly I don't think Coates is skilled enough to pull it off.
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This looks like a lot of fun. Has a neat Star Wars vibe to it. And the art is pretty awesome.
Interesting that it mentions the new champion showed up 2 years ago. So I think it's safe to assume this story isn't operating concurrently with the rest of the MU's timeline. Assuming this is the real T'Challa I think some sort of time travel will be necessary to ensure that he returns the exact moment he left or whatever.
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3747794]Honestly, I don't have a problem with having a deity as a supporting character. I've seen it done before (for example, in those runs on Moon Knight when he isn't depicted as crazy) and there are ways to handle it that don't make the protagonist look weak. But it's not _easy_, and quite honestly I don't think Coates is skilled enough to pull it off.[/QUOTE]
Bast is pretty easy, because you can usually pretty much ignore her. T'Challa for the most part doesn't need her, and she mostly doesn't seem all that interested in actively getting involved except in a few rare occasions. You can throw her in there for "ceremonial" purposes, or if you wanna do a story involving Egyptian gods once in a blue moon. But otherwise, Bast is pretty much a non factor.
I think it actually helps with the Egyptian gods keeping their mystique, as opposed to a lot of their Greek and Norse counter parts. BP and MK's gods actually act like gods, rather than drunken guys you'll see in a bar on a Friday night after work.
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[QUOTE=Beware Of Geek;3747794]Honestly, I don't have a problem with having a deity as a supporting character. I've seen it done before (for example, in those runs on Moon Knight when he isn't depicted as crazy) and there are ways to handle it that don't make the protagonist look weak. But it's not _easy_, and quite honestly I don't think Coates is skilled enough to pull it off.[/QUOTE]
[B]Coates isn't skilled enough to make the supporting cast and out of franchise Characters behave how they should. Bast have mercy if he tried to get bast actually in here[/B]
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3747693]The problem with Bast is like if you showed up at church, prayed and then went to the parking lot and got jumped by an outlaw biker gang of cyber ninjas and Jesus himself showed up and served them dudes a whipping... So why did you spend all that time in MMA class or concealing that light saber in your Blade Son of Shaft leather coat!
And speaking of Jesus does Bast believe in turning the right cheek or loving thy neighbor... What exactly is Bast's biblical standard as a god because Thor drinks alcohol and does have sex out of wedlock!
Does Bast pray to the east as Muslims do... Is he Kosher and does not approve of pork in Wakanda... Gay marriage... Age of consent for sex... Heaven or hell... A real living devil doing dastardly deeds???
Captain America is often depicted as a white Christian male so does he ever try to convert T'challa and what does Bast think of this!
Tony Stark is depicted as more atheist if he met Bast personally does he become a believer if he witnesses this god doing really not much more than most intergalactic super powered beings!
If Tom Cruise hit T'challa up on Scientology is Bast allowing that or what?
Bast is something that a cartoon like Southpark would have a field day with... It's time to get her definitive baseball card stats in order and make some choices about what she does and what she stands for and why!
Real religions have too many moving parts for most super hero comic books unless it was in fact a religious comic to begin with and that is a whole other thread entirely!
Loki: "We have a Hulk!"
T'challa: "We have a Bast!"
Bast: "MEOW and stuff!"
Loki: "T'challa let's just me and you fight and give these people the show that they paid for in the first place... Wait, is your god licking itself!"
Bast: "Just giving myself a bath over here and then we fighting!"[/QUOTE]
Moon Knight has Khonshu.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;3747745]Having Coates writing a Black Panther solo is equivalent to having g an X-writer on this book.
Pure bumbaclat confusion.
On a serious note, how on earth do Marvel Editorial justify having this obvious BP hater churning out this misaligned garbage month after month especially in the wake of the Black Panther movies overwhelming global success at the box office?
Real talk.[/QUOTE]
Go figure, hell Coates was named dropped in Luke Cage season two. You do get the feeling that the Coates train is rollin more due to his social/cultural relevance as a writer than prose or love for writing about Black Panther. It's sad but it seems that fans of T'challa/ Black Panther in written form are the mercy of this agenda based garbage. To each their own but i think we are seeing very substandard treatment for T'challa.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3747839]This looks like a lot of fun. Has a neat Star Wars vibe to it. And the art is pretty awesome.
Interesting that it mentions the new champion showed up 2 years ago. So I think it's safe to assume this story isn't operating concurrently with the rest of the MU's timeline. Assuming this is the real T'Challa I think some sort of time travel will be necessary to ensure that he returns the exact moment he left or whatever.[/QUOTE]
omg good catch. it's been two years since he went missing???? what is going on back on earth since his departure ? how is wakanda and are they actively looking for him? did he he fight a battle that resulted in his losing and being ported to another galaxy? so many questions.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3748121]omg good catch. it's been two years since he went missing???? what is going on back on earth since his departure ? how is wakanda and are they actively looking for him? did he he fight a battle that resulted in his losing and being ported to another galaxy? so many questions.[/QUOTE]
Since he's in Avengers, he can't really be missing on earth for that long. So assuming this is the real T'Challa (and the visions of Storm make that likely), then all this stuff has to occur in the blink of an eye as far as the rest of the MU is concerned. In other books he's still around.