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[QUOTE=C_haos;2903711]Yeah, but there are also pro black people who are excited like alot. And all those social media hits speak for themselves. I think at the end of the day complainers are still going to see the movie. I don't see a mass boycott like with other films occurring with this one.[/QUOTE]
lol no, I promise you they'll say they saw it some other way besides paying their own money to see it (friend dragged them, torrent, etc) oh but they [I]will[/I] see it.
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[QUOTE=C_haos;2903711]Yeah, but there are also pro black people who are excited like alot. And all those social media hits speak for themselves. I think at the end of the day complainers are still going to see the movie. I don't see a mass boycott like with other films occurring with this one.[/QUOTE]
Black Panther is going to be a smash hit point blank period...
The only fear I have and I hate to type this but some ignorant fool bringing a gun into the theater like Dark Knight
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2903217]After giving the matter some considerable thought, I am now of the opinion that Storm should no longer be part of the BP mythos moving forward.
Priest, Reginald Hudlin, McDuffie and David Liss all portrayed the former Royal Couple with dignity but all of their hard work was unravelled by the machinations of the X-Office and a Marvel Editorial hub that saw no reason to corral said X-Office.
There was ZERO professionalism exhibited by the aforementioned bodies and the lead up to AvX its execution and conclusion, did immeasurable damage to T'Challa as a character and the BP mythos as a whole.
Jason Aaron further muddied the waters by having Storm almost immediately jumping into bed with Wolverine which in my opinion was a deliberate act on that writers part as he sought to solidify his new position as a newly inducted X-writers.
Storm was written taking repeated pots hots at T'Challa in the X-books with Emma Frost throwing shade on said marriage by way of mocking the former Queen of Wakanda.
In contrast, T'Challa has not been portrayed with any love interest (potential or otherwise) post the breakup of his marriage to Storm which makes it all the more galling that Coates in his ongoing quest to make T'Challa more "human and relatable" has T'Challa fawning over Storm and apologising like a Bast dammed fool over the self same woman who led an invading force of mutants onto sovereign Wakandan soil.
Coates has failed to write Ororo apologising for any of the crap that she pulled before, during and after AvX but has predictably been using her as a convenient mouthpiece to low key disrespect T'Challa on straight up milquetoast punk tip.
T'Challa needs a new love interest that has nothing to do with any other established franchise within the supposedly shared MU.
He definitely does not need to have "kiss every X-man in sight" Storm hanging around like a millstone on his neck.
A neck I might add, that's being well stretched under the weight of Ta Nehisi Coates ongoing false narrative exercise in sluggish and wholly uninspired writing.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000000"]This makes the most sense. Storm would be the perfect choice for T'Challa but as long as she's shared with the X-Verse(and you really can't say it's equal), it won't work. X-Office will screw it up every time without fail.
Best to have an established character in BP's world or create a new one. Someone who a BP writer would have full creative control over.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Nate Grey;2903662]This. THIS is this bigger issue, IMO. Earlier Pro-Blacks were saying this movie was somehow racist and have even gone further to say its white supremacist propaganda. Oh right and black nerds are disconnected from reality and are sell outs, can't forget that part. When ironically black nerds seem to understand the nuances of racism more than these so-called Pro-Blacks.[/QUOTE]
You saw professor black truths video about the trailer too, huh?
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;2903804]You saw professor black truths video about the trailer too, huh?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I talked about it earlier in the thread. He's upset at the pushback he got and that one of his anti-Black Panther movie vids got taken down due to "hate speech". Now he hates "black nerds" with a passion which is odd cause he's calm cool and collected talking about white supremacists. One of his recent vids? "Why 'Geek Culture' Is a Gateway to White Supremacy".
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[QUOTE=ChildOfTheAtom;2903734]
The only fear I have and I hate to type this but some ignorant fool bringing a gun into the theater like Dark Knight[/QUOTE]
I hadn't thought of this until just now.
And you know what? Whether the shooter is a black person or a white person, somehow Obama will get blamed.
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[QUOTE=Nate Grey;2903813]Yeah I talked about it earlier in the thread. He's upset at the pushback he got and that one of his anti-Black Panther movie vids got taken down due to "hate speech". Now he hates "black nerds" with a passion which is odd cause he's calm cool and collected talking about white supremacists. One of his recent vids? "Why 'Geek Culture' Is a Gateway to White Supremacy".[/QUOTE]
Someone should explain him that his constant attacks on other black people for the thinnest of reasons also benefit "white supremacy".
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2903823]Someone should explain him that his constant attacks on other black people for the thinnest of reasons also benefit "white supremacy".[/QUOTE]
People have tried. He'll rebut with "Hello Stupid", dodge your explanation, and block you.
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[QUOTE=Nate Grey;2903662]This. THIS is this bigger issue, IMO. Earlier Pro-Blacks were saying this movie was somehow racist and have even gone further to say its white supremacist propaganda. Oh right and black nerds are disconnected from reality and are sell outs, can't forget that part. When ironically black nerds seem to understand the nuances of racism more than these so-called Pro-Blacks.[/QUOTE]
Agreed lot of those supposedly pro-black guys are delusional and just seem to thrive on being miserable for the hell of it.
How the hell are you gonna watch every other MCU movie Marvel's ever put out and then balk on seeing Black Panther live and direct on the big screen?
Pure foolishness.
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;2903804]You saw professor black truths video about the trailer too, huh?[/QUOTE]
That guy's an idiot.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;2903791][COLOR="#000000"]This makes the most sense. Storm would be the perfect choice for T'Challa but as long as she's shared with the X-Verse(and you really can't say it's equal), it won't work. X-Office will screw it up every time without fail.
Best to have an established character in BP's world or create a new one. Someone who a BP writer would have full creative control over.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
It's the only thing that makes sense.
T'Challa needs to jump on his jet bike on fly away leaving Storm fading away in his rear view mirror.
Hell, Coates needs to be standing next to her too.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2903955]It's the only thing that makes sense.
T'Challa needs to jump on his jet bike on fly away leaving Storm fading away in his rear view mirror.
[I][B][U]Hell, Coates needs to be standing next to her too.[/U][/B][/I][/QUOTE]
LOL It would be funny if the next writer did that, and made it random. "What the--where did he come from?" LOL
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While history has proven that the black populace CANNOT trust white owned corporations, the fact of the matter is that one must utilize common sense. And common sense dictates that a director of Ryan Coogler's magnitude wouldn't involve himself in a project that would further a negative stereotype against black males. Add to that Chadwicke Boseman, Forest Whitaker, Angela Bassett, Etc. why would they involve themselves in something that would prove to the detriment of the very fanbase that holds them such high esteem?
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Gotta wonder how the x office will react when BP's movie breaks the box office and Marvel makes Nakia the new leading lady in the BP mythos as T'Challa leaves storm behind for good as he and his franchise moves on to bigger and better things.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2903951]That guy's an idiot.[/QUOTE]
The thing is I don't want to be the kind of person who throws the baby out with the dirty bathwater. Yes he's acting like a spoiled brat in regards to BP but anything outside of that he's good at dissecting. The problem, for me anyway, this has more or less "tainted" his other work. Or maybe it was always tainted and I subconsciously overlooked it until now. For instance, I wish I was joking about how he overreacts to people correcting him. If he's off on a fact and you point it out to you, you're called stupid and blocked. So I don't know.
[QUOTE=Ziggiyy;2903967]While history has proven that the black populace CANNOT trust white owned corporations, the fact of the matter is that one must utilize common sense. And common sense dictates that a director of Ryan Coogler's magnitude wouldn't involve himself in a project that would further a negative stereotype against black males. Add to that Chadwicke Boseman, Forest Whitaker, Angela Bassett, Etc. why would they involve themselves in something that would prove to the detriment of the very fanbase that holds them such high esteem?[/QUOTE]
Well the person we're talking about doesn't take any of that into account, and he either somehow thinks Coogler is a sellout or a puppet or both, I forget which he said. Somehow being backed by a white owned company means they control everything and you have no input whatsoever. It's silly, foolish, and not bound in this reality, which is ironic since he claims its black nerds who don't subscribe to this reality. Or if he's so righteous, why is he on white-owned Youtube saying this?
Another thing, there are plenty of independent black owned comics, if he's Mr. Research funny how he's never came across that. Or you have to work with the tools you're given until you can get your own tools. What if this leads to black people saying "They were able to do that with Disney, imagine what we can do without Disney?" This movie is a gateway alright, but to positivity and what black people are capable of. For someone who calls him himself a "Professor" (or the "Authority" on black people like his other ID The Black Authority) how he missed this is...interesting to say the least.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2903955]It's the only thing that makes sense.
T'Challa needs to jump on his jet bike on fly away leaving Storm fading away in his rear view mirror.
Hell, Coates needs to be standing next to her too.[/QUOTE]
That better be a supersonic jet bike cause he can't get away from the Coates train wreck fast enough.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2903970]Gotta wonder how the x office will react when BP's movie breaks the box office and Marvel makes Nakia the new leading lady in the BP mythos as T'Challa leaves storm behind for good as he and his franchise moves on to bigger and better things.[/QUOTE]
They won't do anything other than the same ol' isht they've been doing. Nothing has changed for poc in the X-verse for over 25 years.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2903970]Gotta wonder how the x office will react when BP's movie breaks the box office and Marvel makes Nakia the new leading lady in the BP mythos as T'Challa leaves storm behind for good as he and his franchise moves on to bigger and better things.[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine no reaction at all. So far at least Storms interaction with T'Challa is only on the BP side of things.
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[QUOTE=Nate Grey;2903997]
Well the person we're talking about doesn't take any of that into account, and he either somehow thinks Coogler is a sellout or a puppet or both, I forget which he said. Somehow being backed by a white owned company means they control everything and you have no input whatsoever. It's silly, foolish, and not bound in this reality, which is ironic since he claims its black nerds who don't subscribe to this reality. [b]Or if he's so righteous, why is he on white-owned Youtube saying this?[/b]
[b]Another thing, there are plenty of independent black owned comics, if he's Mr. Research funny how he's never came across that.[/b] Or you have to work with the tools you're given until you can get your own tools. What if this leads to black people saying "They were able to do that with Disney, imagine what we can do without Disney?" This movie is a gateway alright, but to positivity and what black people are capable of. For someone who calls him himself a "Professor" (or the "Authority" on black people like his other ID The Black Authority) how he missed this is...interesting to say the least.[/QUOTE]
Heh, exactly.
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Unless you are Logan, Wolverine, Deadpool, Magneto, Summer or Grey the X Office has no idea what to do with you. They have low-key been milking and resusing storylines from their hey day. Outside House of M, some of Carey's stuff, and a few arcs of Ultimate X Men I can't remember the last time I was like that's fresh.
That being said how they treat Storm in Panther is pretty much how they treat the other characters who have been Avengers etc.
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I just want to say that I've watched the BP trailer everyday since it released. I used to think people who watched reaction videos were crazy people. Now I understand why. I've never been this hyped for a movie ever in my life. The most I've ever watched a trailer was 3 times. Yo I've turned into a crazy person.
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[QUOTE=C_haos;2904034]Unless you are Logan, Wolverine, Deadpool, Magneto, Summer or Grey the X Office has no idea what to do with you. They have low-key been milking and resusing storylines from their hey day. Outside House of M, some of Carey's stuff, and a few arcs of Ultimate X Men I can't remember the last time I was like that's fresh.
That being said how they treat Storm in Panther is pretty much how they treat the other characters who have been Avengers etc.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#000000"]Pretty much. They have a very small pool of characters that they [U][I]choose[/I][/U] to work from and they don't plan to deviate from that. And yeah, don't be an Avengers character showing up in an X-title. You're pretty much a government stooge whose only existence is to bring in mutants.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2903970]Gotta wonder how the x office will react when BP's movie breaks the box office and Marvel makes Nakia the new leading lady in the BP mythos as T'Challa leaves storm behind for good as he and his franchise moves on to bigger and better things.[/QUOTE]
I doubt anyone in the X-Office will care one way or the other.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2904086]I doubt anyone in the X-Office will care one way or the other.[/QUOTE]
The feelings mutual from my perspective.
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[QUOTE=ChildOfTheAtom;2903734]Black Panther is going to be a smash hit point blank period...
The only fear I have and I hate to type this but some ignorant fool bringing a gun into the theater like Dark Knight[/QUOTE]
Between you and me I half-expected it with wonder woman too. I want to say no way, but it has crossed my mind a few times since the Philando castille shooting.
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[QUOTE=C_haos;2903703]But I think it still makes BP look good because in the end despite the MA trying to be independent they were in over their heads and still needed BP and Wakanda.[/QUOTE]
[B] Yep and like then bumbling fool coatesverse panther is, he not only forgave them for abandoning the crown, not passing information about the rapes from the chieftain, taking it upon themselves to handle it and kill the chieftain punishable by death, break a convicted criminal out of prison, take over the jabari lands, side with terrorists and enemies of the state, and suicide bombers,
legions die by Tchallas own words, fighting them, and not only are the transgressions forgiven, he gives then the jabari lands, and not so much as a thank you or anything, they go back and talk shit until Changa gives some stupid as speech that makes Aneka cry for some reason yet they still don't give a fuck about what they did. That is Worse then What Mayberry did with doomwar. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Vibranium Weave;2903230]IMO they should do a story with Black Panther & Storm like "Spider-Man:One Moment in Time", so T'Challa can part ways on a happy note withStorm and then feel free to go after some one else that has nothing to do with any other established franchise in other Marvel properties.[/QUOTE]
The 616 is a shared universe, where characters can be and should be shared. What should NOT happen, or be allowed by Marvel, is Marvel writers and editors to be unprofessional, selfish, racist, childish and ignorant in how they portray characters or established franchises or Marvel properties interacting with one another.
The only thing that needs to stop, or the only thing that needs to change is the people in the X-Office (some of them, not all), being removed from overseeing certain characters because they apparently can't act professionally when it comes to Storm and Black Panther or the other characters they have issues with portraying correctly. I'm not asking for those people to be fired from their jobs, just re-assigned to other characters.
Because if everyone who worked in the X-Office behaved professionally, we wouldn't be having these issues with the franchises in a shared 616 universe. And basically if you ask that Storm and Black Panther not interact romantically or even at all, then the unprofessional behavior would win out and would be rewarded because we'd be asking for the exact same thing the unprofessionals are asking for and are actively trying to sabotage because their egos and psyches can't handle Storm being with a black man.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2904191][B] Yep and like then bumbling fool coatesverse panther is, he not only forgave them for abandoning the crown, not passing information about the rapes from the chieftain, taking it upon themselves to handle it and kill the chieftain punishable by death, break a convicted criminal out of prison, take over the jabari lands, side with terrorists and enemies of the state, and suicide bombers,
legions die by Tchallas own words, fighting them, and not only are the transgressions forgiven, he gives then the jabari lands, and not so much as a thank you or anything, they go back and talk shit until Changa gives some stupid as speech that makes Aneka cry for some reason yet they still don't give a fuck about what they did. That is Worse then What Mayberry did with doomwar. [/B][/QUOTE]
They ain't hearing you though. Lol!
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[QUOTE=MoneySpider;2904243]The 616 is a shared universe, where characters can be and should be shared. What should NOT happen, or be allowed by Marvel, is Marvel writers and editors to be unprofessional, selfish, racist, childish and ignorant in how they portray characters or established franchises or Marvel properties interacting with one another.
The only thing that needs to stop, or the only thing that needs to change is the people in the X-Office (some of them, not all), being removed from overseeing certain characters because they apparently can't act professionally when it comes to Storm and Black Panther or the other characters they have issues with portraying correctly. I'm not asking for those people to be fired from their jobs, just re-assigned to other characters.
Because if everyone who worked in the X-Office behaved professionally, we wouldn't be having these issues with the franchises in a shared 616 universe. And basically if you ask that Storm and Black Panther not interact romantically or even at all, then the unprofessional behavior would win out and would be rewarded because we'd be asking for the exact same thing the unprofessionals are asking for and are actively trying to sabotage because their egos and psyches can't handle Storm being with a black man.[/QUOTE]
You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink said water.
Marvel have allowed Coates to throw T'Challa and the BP mythos into the rape camp, misogyny and ineptitude zone.
Why on earth would they come correct and corral the X-Office now?
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[QUOTE=Mr HardKnocks;2903212]Does anyone think that there are some black people who are ignorant enough to attempt, and I use the word "attempt" in high regard because it won't be allowed to happen, a black only screening for Black Panther. I was watching videos and websites talking Wonder Woman's women only screening and commenters ignorantly compared that to a possible black only screening for BP.
I have problems with that comparison because Wonder Woman was a women only screening and all types of women were allowed to attend not just white women, which is the race of the titular character. When it comes to most of these modern female movies (Star Wars TFA, Hunger Games), they feature white women as lead and people act as if it's revolutionary. Yet the character Ellen Ripley in Alien is declared the greatest female character of all time yet the movie dates back to the 80s. Also the switch from a narrative of gender to race and the lack of mentioning of possible male only screenings Spider Man Homecoming & Thor Ragnorak means that white people (right wingers, racist, anti PC) are anticipating a possible black only screening.
My concern with the possibility of a black only screening is the hypocritical reactionary nature of America, specifically White America, when it comes to black people. Despite the controversy surrounding WW there were no major boycotts, protest or major national media coverages because at the end of the day she's still white. With BP all of those things are very much possible and will happen should any attempt at a black only screening happen.
For example when I say hypocritical reaction I'm talking about when Michael B Jordan was cast as the Human Torch and they said it wasn't the source material. Yet every CBM doesn't follow the source material. When John Boyega was cast as Finn it caused boycotts but when they saw he was sorry character to Rey the got very quiet. In the upcoming Death Note movie, based off the Japanese manga, the character Light was changed to be white. A lot of people came to defend the casting but when the character, L, was cast as black that's when there was a problem. When Luke Cage came out it was called racist and it constantly receives bashing from lots people, mainly white, calling it boring, slow paced, bad writing, horrible second half, etc. yet all the Netflix shows suffer from the same thing including the fan favorite, Daredevil. Also when Iron Fist came out they attacked Luke Cage to try prop IF up as if it the show was of any quality. It's also the same when it comes to the comics too.
When it comes to any kind of anti SJW, PC, or diversity rhetoric black people and black characters are mainly the ones attacked. Miles Morales & Riri Williams are constantly attacked yet people either don't read their books or just don't like them. The character Mosaic is an original black character but these criticizers don't read the book yet it's an original character they demand to be made. Duke Thomas is attacked constantly and even causes threats for boycotts for the Batman comic but characters like Simon Baz & Jessica Cruz get a acceptance into the JL and get their own series. People demand the return of Martian Manhunter to replace Cyborg but wouldn't support his comic.
My point being is that we'll never get away with this. Most of the people asking for this are liberals, black feminist and people who want to do it because WW fans did it. From the examples I mentioned, anything with a black face is bound to cause controversy regardless if it's good or bad. People will attempt this screening because WW got away with, disregarding that she's still white. If this happens it will be bad PR for BP and future black lead blockbusters.[/QUOTE]
Shit, people are mad that black people exist, period, regardless of what we do or don't do. They'll always complain about black people no matter what.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2904268]They ain't hearing you though. Lol![/QUOTE]
[B] I mean damn People need to see this shit for what it is.
Mayberry got roasted (rightfully) for the shit he pulled in Doomwar. Tchalla thanking a white male (whole all beaten up and on his knees) for teaching him and Wakanda a lesson, Doom, responsible for the deaths of thousands of Wakandan life, the theft of his nations resource, the death of a member of the Royal family (an act of war in itself) and he gives him a Stern talking to, and destroys his nations resource.. People toasted his ass rightfully.
Coates comes in and does more damage and they get a Stern talking to and rewarded with everything they wanted (literally everything they wanted) and they had the nerve to still shit talk and T'Challa forgives them.. Coates book Should of ended Right there and been roasted just like POS Doomwar yet People asspat him and Lord this flaming poop of a story around like it's as nuaced as what Rh, or Liss provided or it's the second coming of Priest..
It's astounding what race allows one to do. Same offensive bullshit, vastly different reactions. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2903955]It's the only thing that makes sense.
T'Challa needs to jump on his jet bike on fly away leaving Storm fading away in his rear view mirror.
Hell, Coates needs to be standing next to her too.[/QUOTE]
This, this, this
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2904273]You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink said water.
Marvel have allowed Coates to throw T'Challa and the BP mythos into the rape camp, misogyny abduineptitude zone.
Why on earth would they come correct and corral the X-Office now?[/QUOTE]
I'm just trying to maintain faith and optimism for the future, despite how bleak things look right now. The people who are currently in the X-Office and making their decisions won't be at those jobs forever. (What the X-Office really needs is a Joe Clark-portrayed by Morgan Freeman-type individual to clean it up and keep it clean).
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2904191][B] Yep and like then bumbling fool coatesverse panther is, he not only forgave them for abandoning the crown, not passing information about the rapes from the chieftain, taking it upon themselves to handle it and kill the chieftain punishable by death, break a convicted criminal out of prison, take over the jabari lands, side with terrorists and enemies of the state, and suicide bombers,
legions die by Tchallas own words, fighting them, and not only are the transgressions forgiven, he gives then the jabari lands, and not so much as a thank you or anything, they go back and talk shit until Changa gives some stupid as speech that makes Aneka cry for some reason yet they still don't give a fuck about what they did. That is Worse then What Mayberry did with doomwar. [/B][/QUOTE]
The situation still makes BP look good because he's not doing it for their benefit but for the people. He really outclassed them on the statesman front but they won't last long without his support and they're aware plus if he exile or off em makes them Martyrs because in the end they did make somethings better for the people. For BP to do anything else makes him a monster; plus it's the Jabari lands I'm pretty sure he wasn't losing any sleep over them running it under his terms. But him letting his enemies can concessions isn't anything new a similar thing happened with M'Baku in Priest/Hudlin run started a rebellion but BP ended up giving him some autonomy abiet off panel
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2904290][B] I mean damn People need to see this shit for what it is.
Mayberry got roasted (rightfully) for the shit he pulled in Doomwar. Tchalla thanking a white male (whole all beaten up and on his knees) for teaching him and Wakanda a lesson, Doom, responsible for the deaths of thousands of Wakandan life, the theft of his nations resource, the death of a member of the Royal family (an act of war in itself) and he gives him a Stern talking to, and destroys his nations resource.. People toasted his ass rightfully.
Coates comes in and does more damage and they get a Stern talking to and rewarded with everything they wanted (literally everything they wanted) and they had the nerve to still shit talk and T'Challa forgives them.. Coates book Should of ended Right there and been roasted just like POS Doomwar yet People asspat him and Lord this flaming poop of a story around like it's as nuaced as what Rh, or Liss provided or it's the second coming of Priest..
It's astounding what race allows one to do. Same offensive bullshit, vastly different reactions. [/B][/QUOTE]
Different, the MA by no means kidnapped his wife, threatened his mother , or bring BP to the brink of death only for BP not to the same. Heck there worse offense siding with Tetu briefly can be forgiven because they broke the alliance, returned the captured HZ and stayed out of the final battle. As said their little jaunt proved distracting but they were never the main threat and the because if the work they did people are endured to them. They patrol the lands but under BPs/Wakandan terms for now.
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Lol it's like 2012 in here again with the Storm stuff
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[QUOTE=C_haos;2904425]The situation still makes BP look good because he's not doing it for their benefit but for the people. He really outclassed them on the statesman front but they won't last long without his support and they're aware plus if he exile or off em makes them Martyrs because in the end they did make somethings better for the people. For BP to do anything else makes him a monster; plus it's the Jabari lands I'm pretty sure he wasn't losing any sleep over them running it under his terms. But him letting his enemies can concessions isn't anything new a similar thing happened with M'Baku in Priest/Hudlin run started a rebellion but BP ended up giving him some autonomy abiet off panel
Different, the MA by no means kidnapped his wife, threatened his mother , or bring BP to the brink of death only for BP not to the same. Heck there worse offense siding with Tetu briefly can be forgiven because they broke the alliance, returned the captured HZ and stayed out of the final battle. As said their little jaunt proved distracting but they were never the main threat and the because if the work they did people are endured to them. They patrol the lands but under BPs/Wakandan terms for now.[/QUOTE]
[B]No they lost the chance to be martrys when they sided with Tetu and Zenzi knowing they were using Wakandan citizens ( they People the MA were supposedly protecting) as suicide bombers blowing up innocents. Wakanda has also already shown what they do to traitors and those who take Wakandan life.
The situation didn't make T'Challa look good , it made him look weak because many lives were lost and the ones who caused it got off with barely a slap on the wrist. The whole S1 was handled poorly with as ass load of plot holes that Make it fall hard on it's face[/B]
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[QUOTE=Holt;2902513]Play Arts Kai Black Panther
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I don't mind the idea of some variant armor for Infinity War.
His current suit is great for Earth but if you going to space you wanna be able to fly and have protection from the vacuum and breathable air.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2904290][B] I mean damn People need to see this shit for what it is.
Mayberry got roasted (rightfully) for the shit he pulled in Doomwar. Tchalla thanking a white male (whole all beaten up and on his knees) for teaching him and Wakanda a lesson, Doom, responsible for the deaths of thousands of Wakandan life, the theft of his nations resource, the death of a member of the Royal family (an act of war in itself) and he gives him a Stern talking to, and destroys his nations resource.. People toasted his ass rightfully.
Coates comes in and does more damage and they get a Stern talking to and rewarded with everything they wanted (literally everything they wanted) and they had the nerve to still shit talk and T'Challa forgives them.. Coates book Should of ended Right there and been roasted just like POS Doomwar yet People asspat him and Lord this flaming poop of a story around like it's as nuaced as what Rh, or Liss provided or it's the second coming of Priest..
It's astounding what race allows one to do. Same offensive bullshit, vastly different reactions. [/B][/QUOTE]
You know me well enough to know that I've never given much stock to the ethnicity if any writer attached to scribing T'Challa's exploits.
I've always judged writers on their ability to write the character properly and thus, enrich the mythos in general.
I knew Ta Nehisi Coates was on that BS right from day one based on the anti BP comments he made before he'd even written his pitch for tea BP solo so nothing he eventually put the BP mythos through cane as a surprise to me.
Saying that Coates is the worst writer to ever scribe T'Challa, was redundant even before the first issue of his BP run dropped, is totally redundant before said issue dropped but hey, enough folks seem to like his watered down, milquetoast iteration of T'Challa and totally debased version of Wakanda so what the frak does I know?
The fact that questions as to why Coates chose to ignore Hickman's clearly nuanced depiction of Wakanda post SW II, get routinely dismissed by apologists for Coates shenanigans should tell you all you need to know about where their collective heads are at and that my friend, includes Marvel Editorial as well.
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Yeah look in a perfect world would it be nice to have Black Writers writing great black panther runs sure but just because a writer is black doesn't give them a free pass.
Coates run is a litany of African Stereotypes with T'Challa constantly simping and being shown out of his depth in challenges that aren't even on his level.