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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;3816088]Tell us how you REALLY feel Malice!
All she need after that was ti light a cigarette and Waiting to Exhale Angela Bassett walk from the burning car out of the scene to end that.
Get the WRONG folks in charge and you will see Panther buried along with everyone else who held this company up. While Deadpool, Logan & FF are NOT the issue-X-MEN are.
Now we get the group who can be the SUBSTITUTE for racism and all that mess.
Whose storyline would you rather see in Black Panther 2?
Panther discovering who those enemies Killmonger was talking about. Panther doing what so many have screamed blacks do? TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER? A "Political figure" who viewed places like Africa as (bleep) hole countries fears empowered blacks and plots to end it?
Or A white haired mutant arrives at Wakanda needing asylum for her kind-who are hated for being mutants. Yet aside from her-those mutants are so so so so WHITE.
Does anybody really want 6 film of victimhood and fake racism? Who would I fear more? Wakanda or the X-Men?[/QUOTE]
I would much rather see the fantastic four appear in a Black Panther sequel than the x-men to appear. After al, BP first started with the F4.
BP has become the highest grossing marvel studios film domestically. Burying him to accommodate other characters would seem obvious as Marvel has treated characters whose box office numbers were high with care i.e Avengers, Iron Man, Even Captain America, so this will be seen as a form of bias over the BP franchise. It would probably be a PR headache for Marvel/Disney to ignore the BP franchise for the purpose of other big characters as that won't fly with people especially with the whole James Gunn issue, Marvel/Disney wouldn't want any form of scrutiny against them.
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3816175]I would much rather see the fantastic four appear in a Black Panther sequel than the x-men to appear. After al, BP first started with the F4.
BP has become the highest grossing marvel studios film domestically. Burying him to accommodate other characters would seem obvious as Marvel has treated characters whose box office numbers were high with care i.e Avengers, Iron Man, Even Captain America, so this will be seen as a form of bias over the BP franchise. It would probably be a PR headache for Marvel/Disney to ignore the BP franchise for the purpose of other big characters as that won't fly with people especially with the whole James Gunn issue, Marvel/Disney wouldn't want any form of scrutiny against them.[/QUOTE]
you know that you mention this I wouldn't be opposed to that either based upon the point you mentioned that would be nice.
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They should add Queen Devine Justice to the Champions roster. They don't have a pure badass human fighter on their team to fill the "Black Widow/Hawkeye" spot.
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Man, #### the X-Men in Black Panther 2. I want to see the Fantastic Four and the seeds being planted for Secret Wars: The New Avengers.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3816097][B]Okay don't get me wrong, ledger was a great joker, but at the same time, his popularity I that role also sky Rocketed because he passed away as well.
In terms of what we see on screen, Erik is a more relatable, sympathetic, and grounded villain. His motivations and his contrast to tchalla had nore care and thought put into it as opposed to Jokers " set the world on fure tk watch it burn" and alot of things I didn't like too much was how joker was pretty much omniscience in how his plans were flawless to the point of bear comedic levels. Again that's not a knock on ledger as he pulled off a very different and top notch villain and joker. But imo Erik was the more realistic and relatable between the two.
To the point I somewhat wished he could of lived just because his struggles and you could see then pain and hear it in his voice.
Abd there's no reason to think it will be another run of the mill Marvel sequel. His mythos and world is so much different from the others that there is plenty to explore to keep it unique[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm on record saying Killmonger was just as good of a character as Joker. I just think the weak fight at the end hurts the aura of the character. Jordan although great just wasn't as great as Ledger imo. I've said before if you put a young Denzel or maybe a young Laurence Fishburne in the role it becomes GOAT status
Huge fan of Jordan's performance though. I think he'll be back in the sequel for an ancestral plane scene. Could be a dope Hannibal Lector style way to keep the character around and have T'Challa visit/pick his brain.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3816149]remember I said awhile ago maybe Coates knew something we didnt which is why he put ororo with tchalla. now here we are and ororo could actually appear in BP2!!!!! am I the only one hyped!!!!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?![/QUOTE]
[B]First off, X-Men wouldn't make it Into these movies coming out. Not till the next phase nost likely. Second, i doubt Coates knew anything about this and more likely put her into Black Panther to push his agenda to write x books or get that storm solo. 3rd. Yes you probably are, and also Chadwick and lupita are very much against it and Storm does not need to appear in BP when T'Challa is with Nakia. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3816175]I would much rather see the fantastic four appear in a Black Panther sequel than the x-men to appear. After al, BP first started with the F4.
BP has become the highest grossing marvel studios film domestically. Burying him to accommodate other characters would seem obvious as Marvel has treated characters whose box office numbers were high with care i.e Avengers, Iron Man, Even Captain America, so this will be seen as a form of bias over the BP franchise. It would probably be a PR headache for Marvel/Disney to ignore the BP franchise for the purpose of other big characters as that won't fly with people especially with the whole James Gunn issue, Marvel/Disney wouldn't want any form of scrutiny against them.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yeah if I had to choose, I would say FF as a way for T'Challa to bring it full circle as they debut in his movie and he debuted in their comic. It would be a interesting nod.
Though at the same time, I wouldn't mind BP 2 focusing more on Wakanda and it's well developed supporting cast rather then bloating it with other additions. Really his cast is superior to other solo movies because Coogler actually cared to give them life. He didn't have the issues Thor, Ironman and Cap have with their cast[/B]
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3816159]why cant we get both?[/QUOTE]
Why should we?
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It works and has been successful so I get it. However, when Marvel likes so much control on post production it limits the creativity of Ryan and Rachel. There are some shots that they can't take because it doesn't fit Marvel's style. Some people thats great for (Russos). However, when you've got upper echelon/award worthy filmmakers in Ryan and Rachel I think you've got to figure out a way to give them more freedom.
Don't get me wrong I believe Marvel gave Ryan more freedom than any other MCU directors. I just want even more for the sequel.[/QUOTE]
Ryan Coogler will get much more freedom to do what he wants with Black Panther 2. Black Panther made way over 1 billion that comes with more freedom.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3816149]remember I said awhile ago maybe Coates knew something we didnt which is why he put ororo with tchalla. now here we are and ororo could actually appear in BP2!!!!! am I the only one hyped!!!!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?![/QUOTE]
[B]Yes you are.[/B] Marvel needs to focus on getting Storm right in her own damn franchise before they even entertain the thought of her crossing paths with T’Challa. It’s bad enough Coates let her hijack the mans own comic book and the last thing the MCU needs to be doing is following his lead and having Storm hijack T’Challa’s film franchise as well.
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3815379]Malice is enhanced. I don't think she is quite "comicbook peak human" enhanced ala BP, Cap and such but she is above normal human.
Not by the herb though, the herb only gave her control over men.
She was enhanced by Killmonger when he saved her/ressurected her after Achebe tortured her to death/near death.
Which is what irks me about this story. Malice doesn't need this dumb drum lol. She is a trained, elite Dora Milajae AND she is enhanced unlike her "sisters." She would be a handful for Okoye, Ayo, and Aneka all by herself just on her innate abilities. and if she wanted to kill Storm, she would have snuck into the shop and slit her throat unnoticed lol.
I highly recommend reading Priest haha.[/QUOTE]
She's not just fighting the Doras. She's on there with Spiderman, the X-Men and Avengers. So being slightly enhanced isn't going to cut it. She needs whatever enhancements she can get her hands on.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3816149]remember I said awhile ago maybe Coates knew something we didnt which is why he put ororo with tchalla. now here we are and ororo could actually appear in BP2!!!!! am I the only one hyped!!!!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?![/QUOTE]
Storm most likely will be in Black Panther 2 but as a cameo. Then play a bigger role in Black Panther 3.
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[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3816229]I'm on record saying Killmonger was just as good of a character as Joker. I just think the weak fight at the end hurts the aura of the character. Jordan although great just wasn't as great as Ledger imo. I've said before if you put a young Denzel or maybe a young Laurence Fishburne in the role it becomes GOAT status
Huge fan of Jordan's performance though. I think he'll be back in the sequel for an ancestral plane scene. Could be a dope Hannibal Lector style way to keep the character around and have T'Challa visit/pick his brain.[/QUOTE]
[B]That's your opinion on the Fight and to be honest, tdk final Fight was even weaker then BPs.
To me both were great, and I'm not knocking ledger but when he passed that also boosts people's appreciation for the person and plus the movie focused more on joker then Batman to the point it was more his movie then Bruce.
Honestly saying a young Denzel or Lawrence means little because they aren't young and BP has already hit that goat status as it's the biggest super hero solo ever and soon to be the 3rd movie in history to hit 700mil domestic.. others being starwars and Avatar.. IW isn't even going to hit it and it was the most anticipated movie of the decade. Let that sink in[/B]
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[video=youtube;JS5162h2aD8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS5162h2aD8[/video]
Would love a Netflix or Disney streaming service Killmonger prequel.
Great thing is that it could essentially be an N'Jobu prequel as well. Telling his son stories about growing up in Wakanda with T'Chaka. Then in the 3rd act you can see Killmonger gaining Klaue's trust and causing havoc all around the world.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3816413][B]That's your opinion on the Fight and to be honest, tdk final Fight was even weaker then BPs.
To me both were great, and I'm not knocking ledger but when he passed that also boosts people's appreciation for the person and plus the movie focused more on joker then Batman to the point it was more his movie then Bruce.
Honestly saying a young Denzel or Lawrence means little because they aren't young and BP has already hit that goat status as it's the biggest super hero solo ever and soon to be the 3rd movie in history to hit 700mil domestic.. others being starwars and Avatar.. IW isn't even going to hit it and it was the most anticipated movie of the decade. Let that sink in[/B][/QUOTE]
I guess you could make the case someone like Chiwetel (if he wasn't in Doctor Strange) Nate Parker (I know that would never have happened anyway). More seasoned and hardened actors. Jordan was GREAT. However, where as I think Ledger stepped it up in his scenes with Bale I feel like Jordan (outside of the waterfall fight) wasn't as convincing as Boseman.
Imo Jordan was amazing in the movie in every scene he didn't share with Boseman. However, when Boseman was around you could see who was the more seasoned actor and that MBJ was trying to force his scenes just a tad. Again still great though.
TDK final fight was weak. Which again why I think BP had the potential to pass it imo and the sequel has it as well. TDK wasn't cut trimmed down and the practical effects make for more engaging scenes. Again I think Coogler can make the GOAT comic book movie if they let him and he's on his game.
Just hoping Marvel feels the pressure to challenging itself.
I think IW suffered a tad because it didn't do as well critically as someone people would have thought. Black Panther was the worse movie (for IW) to have come out before it. Coogler's engaging story telling was going to make IW's Infinity Stone shenanigans seemed a bit jarring for critics. So they judged it harsher.