[QUOTE=blacksonic;3816375]Storm most likely will be in Black Panther 2 but as a cameo. Then play a bigger role in Black Panther 3.[/QUOTE]
[B] Chad and lupita aren't going to be down with that. They said as much already as did fiege[/B]
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[QUOTE=blacksonic;3816375]Storm most likely will be in Black Panther 2 but as a cameo. Then play a bigger role in Black Panther 3.[/QUOTE]
[B] Chad and lupita aren't going to be down with that. They said as much already as did fiege[/B]
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3816467]I guess you could make the case someone like Chiwetel (if he wasn't in Doctor Strange) Nate Parker (I know that would never have happened anyway). More seasoned and hardened actors. Jordan was GREAT. However, where as I think Ledger stepped it up in his scenes with Bale I feel like Jordan (outside of the waterfall fight) wasn't as convincing as Boseman.
Imo Jordan was amazing in the movie in every scene he didn't share with Boseman. However, when Boseman was around you could see who was the more seasoned actor and that MBJ was trying to force his scenes just a tad. Again still great though.
TDK final fight was weak. Which again why I think BP had the potential to pass it imo and the sequel has it as well. TDK wasn't cut trimmed down and the practical effects make for more engaging scenes. Again I think Coogler can make the GOAT comic book movie if they let him and he's on his game.
Just hoping Marvel feels the pressure to challenging itself.
I think IW suffered a tad because it didn't do as well critically as someone people would have thought. Black Panther was the worse movie (for IW) to have come out before it. Coogler's engaging story telling was going to make IW's Infinity Stone shenanigans seemed a bit jarring for critics. So they judged it harsher.[/QUOTE]
[B] Chadwick was a boss kb every scene he was in. He in fact helped the supporting cast look great by how well he wore the different hats needed for the different Characters. I thinks Jordans best scenes where warrior falls and when he goes to the ancestral plane. And really I feel Bale was overshadowed by ledger. Just being honest ledger is the reason tdk was hailed as well as it was.
.IW suffered from other Summer boxoffices, and that unlike BP Which had people leaving the theater with positive feelings and as of which made it something to watch over and over again, and the story was very well nuanced IW didn't and I think that's why. Not because critics were judging it harsher.[/B]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3816498][B] Chad and lupita aren't going to be down with that. They said as much already as did fiege[/B][/QUOTE]
Lupita said she'd be open to becoming the Malice character. That could be their way out.
Have Lupita "die" in the middle of the 2nd movie and then come back as a villain in part 3.
I see a lot of fans afraid about X-Men joining the MCU.
I think Black Panther is proof that X-Men can and should be handled seriously.
[QUOTE]Marvel's X-Men Will Have To Be Different After Black Panther
But when it comes to social-justice metaphor, few properties can touch Marvel's X-Men. The idea of heroes whose special-abilities made the very people they were charged with protecting fear or even hate them was baked into the Marvel Universe narrative almost from the beginning, but the Mutant characters were in a class by themselves. Created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in the midst of the social upheaval of the 1960s Civil Rights movement, the series' initial good/evil scenario was framed around competing responses to the Mutants themselves as metaphors for other real-world persecuted minorities: Professor Xavier's X-Men use their skills to fight crime in part to demonstrate that Mutants were not simply "safe" but societally-beneficial, while Magneto's "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" were militants seeking to overthrow human civilization and rule it.
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Admittedly, the metaphor was never exactly perfect; nevermind that the common shorthand of Xavier and Magneto as stand-ins for Martin Luther King and Malcom X feels, in 2018, like an offensively grotesque over-simplification of the dichotomy in both men's ideologies (particularly on the Brotherhood's end, since the Black Militant movements of the era tended to focus on community/neighborhood defense and self-sufficiency rather than armed insurrection), the superhero context itself muddied the point somewhat; for all the myriad reasons that racial, religious and sexual/gender-minorities have found themselves marginalized in U.S. history, "fear of superhuman abilities" hasn't been one of them. But the concept proved fertile for later takes on the material to show greater depth, like Chris Claremont's "God Loves, Man Kills" storyline and the live-action X-Men films' more explicit parallels to the LGBTQ rights struggle up to and including casting prominent gay rights activist Ian McKellan as Magneto.
And while it's true that not every X-Men storyline has centered this particular aspect of the characters as the main narrative focus, it does tend to be the main thing that sets them apart from other superhero teams. As such it's been heavily expected among some fans that if and when the characters come "home" to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (following the still in-progress acquisition of 20th Century Fox's film and TV assets by the Disney Corporation) that this would continue to be the case in order to help them stand out from The Avengers or the Guardians of The Galaxy. But Marvel itself may have complicated the usability that particular narrative in an unexpected way - namely, letting newly-minted superstar director Ryan Coogler turn Black Panther into the most politically-charged box-office smash in recent memory.
Much was made in the lead-up to the Africa-set film's release of how historical and even radical a pop-culture "event" it was simply by virtue of its existence; not simply the first Black-led superhero blockbuster in many years (and the first to feature a majority-Black cast and arrive courtesy of a Black director), but the first big-budget Hollywood feature grounded in the burgeoning afro-futurist aesthetic - with the fictional setting of Wakanda implicitly offering a vision of a Black African culture uninhibited by colonial plunder. But few could've expected that the film's actual narrative would take these themes from subtext to simply text, with a storyline that turned out to be all about what a place like Wakanda would mean for (and, more immediately, "to") Black people in the real world.
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While Black Panther's original comic book arch-enemy, Klaw (or, rather, "Ulysseys Klaue") at first appears to be the main antagonist, it becomes clear around midpoint that the real threat to T'Challa and indeed all of Wakanda is Michael B. Jordan as Erik Stevens, aka "Killmonger," a CIA-trained wetwork specialist of part-Wakandan descent who shows up on a mission to seize the throne and with a bone to pick with Wakanda itself; he's deeply angry that this technologically-advanced Black Utopia hasn't used its technological and military might to come to the rescue of fellow Africans who were taken to the West as slaves - or their descendants, like him, still living under the yoke of racism, over-policing and White Supremacy today. His plan? Use the nation's weaponry and resources to arm/encourage Black revolutionary uprisings all over the world and establish a global Wakandan Empire.
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There is, of course, a more specifically-personal motive guiding Killmonger's schemes; he's actually T'Challa's American-born cousin, the son of a royal-born spy (T'Challa's uncle) killed by the Wakandan King's father and predecessor in part for trying to enact a similar plan back in 1992. He's also more than a little morally-compromised in his own ideology, a self-obsessed brute who beats up (and kills) women without hesitation and boasts of killing people of all races as part of his decades-long plan to achieve his revolutionary aims.
And there's no mistaking that the conflict between Killmonger and T'Challa (who moves, over the course of the film, from isolationism to the benevolent example-setting championed by his ally/love-interest Nakia) in Black Panther eventually comes down to the same argument of whether militant-revolution or outreach will best serve the interests of oppressed peoples that's long been the foundation of the X-Men franchise. But where there the subject is addressed in the detached manner of metaphor and analogy, with endlessly-varied genetically-granted superpowers standing in for the experience of being born into a marginalized class by virtue of belief, background or skin color. Killmonger isn't a "metaphor" for a Black Militant like Magneto was - he's the real thing, no filter.
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[url]https://screenrant.com/x-men-mcu-different-black-panther/[/url]
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3816813]I see a lot of fans afraid about X-Men joining the MCU.
I think Black Panther is proof that X-Men can and should be handled seriously.
[url]https://screenrant.com/x-men-mcu-different-black-panther/[/url][/QUOTE]
It is not fear within the confines of a possible movie or the comic. Im sure Marvel Studios will handle it well.
It is the fans/Xmen writers that come with it. lol. From what I understand, the marriage years were not good times on message boards. We prefer not to have a repeat on FB and twitter. lol
[QUOTE=Vic Vega;3815918]Tom Cruise has for an actor a bizarre disregard for his own safety.
You only see that kind of thing in the Hong Kong cinema and those guys were mostly trained stuntmen(guys like Jackie Chan trained from childhood in the Chinese Opera/Circus).
I doubt many other actors would willingly take the risks Cruise does.[/QUOTE]
On a side note look up the action legend Amitabh Bachchan (in my part of the world):
[url]https://tribune.com.pk/story/1725139/4-7-bollywood-actors-perform-stunts/[/url]
But Cruise, Keanu and I believe Vin are keeping the legacy alive when it comes to doing your own stunt work.
[QUOTE=Cville;3816859]It is not fear within the confines of a possible movie or the comic. Im sure Marvel Studios will handle it well.
It is the fans/Xmen writers that come with it. lol. [B]From what I understand, the marriage years were not good times on message boards[/B]. We prefer not to have a repeat on FB and twitter. lol[/QUOTE]
Those were dark days, indeed.
[QUOTE=LastManStanding;3816877]On a side note look up the action legend Amitabh Bachchan (in my part of the world):
[url]https://tribune.com.pk/story/1725139/4-7-bollywood-actors-perform-stunts/[/url]
But Cruise, Keanu and I believe Vin are keeping the legacy alive when it comes to doing your own stunt work.[/QUOTE]
I remember seeing Amitabh Bachan for the first time in Toofan when I was a kid. He is really good but a old now so I'm not sure if he is still doing his own stunts.
[QUOTE=Klaue's Mixtape;3816808]Lupita said she'd be open to becoming the Malice character. That could be their way out.
Have Lupita "die" in the middle of the 2nd movie and then come back as a villain in part 3.[/QUOTE]
[B]mcy Nakia is vastly different then comic Nakia. They really only share the same name. It would be incredibly stupid to kill/villainize Nakia, in favor of Storm.. Also Where did she State that? Because she and Chadwick were pretty clear they didn't want to go that route and tnakia should stay a thing in the MCU[/B]
Chadwick Boseman age 40
Lupita Nyong'o age 35
Halle Berry age 51
Alexandra Shipp Age 27
Yeah, I think we're done here... :cool:
[video=youtube;1tXQ6EwWdkM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tXQ6EwWdkM[/video]
[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3816923][B]mcy Nakia is vastly different then comic Nakia. They really only share the same name. It would be incredibly stupid to kill/villainize Nakia, in favor of Storm.. Also Where did she State that? Because she and Chadwick were pretty clear they didn't want to go that route and tnakia should stay a thing in the MCU[/B][/QUOTE]
It sounds like she said she was cool with the Nakia turn in the same intereview where Boseman and her were talking about staying a thing.
[url]http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/02/16/black-panther-nakia-malice-villain-sequel-/[/url]
Maybe they both like the idea of a villain and hero having a thing.
1.3 Billion Dollars says they won't touch the Malice angle and just offer an update of an already existing villain (Moses Magnum or a non offensive variation of Achebe) than spoil all that great black love!
MCU Nakia had to be persuaded to stay in Wakanda on that "Outreach" program so exactly how does that existing character even become Malice over petty jealousy all of a sudden?
Nakia along with Okoye and Shuri should not be destined for sudden turn of character events after all the work that they put in in the first movie saving T'challa... Play it safe and find another villain and keep the peace in black beauty shops worldwide!
Even Romanda would look silly at this point riding the Achebe train in the MCU considering Angela Bassett's established portrayal!
As far as the varied age of past and present Storm (Halle and Shipp) they are either too young or too old and trying to cast someone new just ruins the current continuity already established for an actress who may not even have that type of star power to begin with overshadowing Lupita!
Black Panther and Storm is a long in the tooth relationship that wreaks of Hollywood Housewives reality tv drama as shown in those "Ugly Nakia" scans!
"Ugly Nakia" only begets "Ugly Nakia" nothing more nothing less... The moment they cast beautiful Lupita as Nakia in the MCU and did what they did there is no going back just to wreck the franchise that delivered such record breaking revenue!
Ratchet Angry Black Woman in this era... Good Luck with that! :cool:
1.3 Billion Dollars says don't go back to this era or suffer those Superfly box-office receipts...
[video=youtube;IkwI1EdMI7Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkwI1EdMI7Q[/video]
Pour out a little liquor for "Ugly Nakia" and keep it moving... PEACE!!!
[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3816934]Chadwick Boseman age 40
Lupita Nyong'o age 35
Halle Berry age 51
Alexandra Shipp Age 27
Yeah, I think we're done here... :cool:
[video=youtube;1tXQ6EwWdkM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tXQ6EwWdkM[/video][/QUOTE]
Storm Most likely will be Back Panther 2 and 3 no matter what her age will be.
I honestly think it would be too complicated to introduce Storm as a key player in the current BP franchise.
We have no insight on what casting specifics the MCU will have for the X-Men. We don't know what age range Storm will be.
I'd be okay with a platonic cameo, though.
If the MCU reboots, then I could understand making BP and Storm a couple.
Blade Trinity... :cool:
Hey look it's a Blade movie starring Mrs. Justin Timberlake because that's what we're paying 1.3 billion dollars for...
[video=youtube;hNKkRLRoLmU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNKkRLRoLmU[/video]
Storm will require a lot of extra screen time and extra make up and an extra budget for all that unnecessary CGI that got complaints in the first movie!
Hurricanes and tornadoes around the vibranium mound because... Reasons!