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[QUOTE=BBeeryan;3106558]Lmao yeesss! I love this. I have to get this issue just for this scene alone. The swag is on a billion! Ugh....
One of you hard core BP fans need to add this to your tagline. If you don't, I will.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;3105178]Bruh, Coatesverse BP actually being a skrull would be a plot twist I'd welcome with open arms. Lol.[/QUOTE]
Lmao I see you took my advice. You better go, boi! You better own the power in his name! I'm certainly not here for retcons to any of the repairs put in place for their relationship. But I would like to point out that this is probably the best T'Challa scan I've seen in years. That's a problem
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[video=youtube;8DgH5_UDq0E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DgH5_UDq0E[/video]
This popped up in my news feed, I thought some of you might find it interesting that BP is getting company.
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[QUOTE=Likewater;3107191][video=youtube;8DgH5_UDq0E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DgH5_UDq0E[/video]
This popped up in my news feed, I thought some of you might find it interesting that BP is getting company.[/QUOTE]
Very good. I disagree with some of the comments regarding Black Panther but these guys look like they have some very good comics out there.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3107326]Very good. I disagree with some of the comments regarding Black Panther but these guys look like they have some very good comics out there.[/QUOTE]
[B]Where do they mention BP? I Heard about one of those comics before. Might be work taking a look at[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3107391][B]Where do they mention BP? I Heard about one of those comics before. Might be work taking a look at[/B][/QUOTE]
They talked about the BP movie towards the end. A couple of the writers talked about how they felt the movie wasn't authentic and that too much of the movie is seen through Western eyes. It may not be entirely authentic African culture but I don't think Coogler is doing it a disservice.
Coates on the other hand has treehouse rape camps and yet no mention of it.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3107592]They talked about the BP movie towards the end. A couple of the writers talked about how they felt the movie wasn't authentic and that too much of the movie is seen through Western eyes. It may not be entirely authentic African culture but I don't think Coogler is doing it a disservice.
Coates on the other hand has treehouse rape camps and yet no mention of it.[/QUOTE]
[B]Welp no need to watch then[/B]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3107592]They talked about the BP movie towards the end. A couple of the writers talked about how they felt the movie wasn't authentic and that too much of the movie is seen through Western eyes. It may not be entirely authentic African culture but I don't think Coogler is doing it a disservice.
Coates on the other hand has treehouse rape camps and yet no mention of it.[/QUOTE]
wait, have they screened the film? I don't see how they can critique the film like that just based off the trailer.
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;3107793]wait, have they screened the film? I don't see how they can critique the film like that just based off the trailer.[/QUOTE]
It's the internet, you don't need to have seen or read anything to say it sucks or why you're burning it on YouTube
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;3107793]wait, have they screened the film? I don't see how they can critique the film like that just based off the trailer.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of when the inantez was telling us that Chadwick's African accent was forced/ not authentic enough when those early CA:CW critiques came in, and my Afrikan ass was like stop fronting on these American blacks like all African accents sound the same. Like Dikembe sounds like Hakeem sounds like Idris Elba.
Then the movie came out and T'Challa was a breakout star lol. BP may not be an African created character but conceptually and thematically he is everything you would want in a street to mid tier African superhero. And since he's from a fictional country and Africa doesn't exactly house homogenous countries, the details of Wakanda will always have a level of gray. But it's more so the ideology of what he represents that I appreciate, more so than the malleable cultural details
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;3107793]wait, have they screened the film? I don't see how they can critique the film like that just based off the trailer.[/QUOTE]
Hehe, they're obviously CBR members. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Lord Morph;3107793]wait, have they screened the film? I don't see how they can critique the film like that just based off the trailer.[/QUOTE]
[B]It's really off-putting Considering how much work Coogler and t'chadwick are putting into making BP legit while Coates is shitting all over the mythos and they have the nerve to talk about the movie having a Western view...[/B]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3107592]They talked about the BP movie towards the end. A couple of the writers talked about how they felt the movie wasn't authentic and that too much of the movie is seen through Western eyes. It may not be entirely authentic African culture but I don't think Coogler is doing it a disservice.
Coates on the other hand has treehouse rape camps and yet no mention of it.[/QUOTE]
And when the bp movie becomes a success, they will be to first group of people to use bp's success by capitalising on their own comics i.e. "If you think bp was awesome, check out my own comic"
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3107799]It's the internet, you don't need to have seen or read anything to say it sucks or why you're burning it on YouTube[/QUOTE]
And the crux of their argument really is if you boil it down is "none of US worked on it, so there's something wrong, somewhere".
Which is the standard indy dude complaint/side-eyeing.
You can't cite movie Thor and Asgard as an example of how world building was done right and have a leg to stand on.
But again they are indy dudes: they see Black Panther the same way a mom and pop burger joint sees McDonald's.
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It's funny, I almost posted a link to a certain person's video who thought black folks were getting too excited about the BP movie and should support black indie projects. While there was a kernel of truth buried in his rant, the overall thing was just too full of negativity and side issues ( and projecting).
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It not like we can't do it all. Yohance #1 was interesting. But the funny thing is he said he did the same thing for his comic that he accused the BP movie makers of doing. Using different African cultures for world building.
Problem is indie comics come out on inconsistent schedules.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3108987]It not like we can't do it all. Yohance #1 was interesting. But the funny thing is he said he did the same thing for his comic that he accused the BP movie makers of doing. Using different African cultures for world building.
Problem is indie comics come out on inconsistent schedules.[/QUOTE]
[B] That's the beauty of Wakanda, it's not real m it's a fictional Unconquered, isolated, Most advanced nation on earth. Why wouldn't they take the Best from multiple cultures to create Wakanda? Coogler and T'chadwick have been putting in work while Coates is looking at Wakanda with an offensive western view and he gets a pass? Wakanda is supposed to look traditional with a futuristic style too it, but still Coogler and T'chadwick are doing groundbreaking work and they want to judge? Please[/B]
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[QUOTE=ed2962;3108969]It's funny, I almost posted a link to a certain person's video who thought black folks were getting too excited about the BP movie and should support black indie projects. While there was a kernel of truth buried in his rant, the overall thing was just too full of negativity and side issues ( and projecting).[/QUOTE]
Ultimately I think indy guys like this just want some attention for their product on social media, and going negative is a better way of achieving that than going positive. Heck, we're sort of talking about that other indy thing here so it kind of works. Kind of.
If this were an indy wrestling company they'd be ranting on how the WWE sucks (and there would probably be a kermal of truth to it). If it were some sort of burger joint they'd be ranting on how McDonalds sucks (and again there would probably be a kermal of truth to it). It it were a retailer they'd be ranting how Walmart sucks, etc etc. Big mainstream things make for easy bad guys in social media narratives.
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[IMG]https://i.redd.it/3ko8fka5n3nz.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Holt;3109172][IMG]https://i.redd.it/3ko8fka5n3nz.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Nice :cool:.
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Preview of #18. Looks like the art took the month off. lol
[url]http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/black-panther-18/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Cville;3109250]Preview of #18. Looks like the art took the month off. lol
[url]http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/black-panther-18/[/url][/QUOTE]
[B]Gross. That art looks horrid, Also, Screw the MA and there boring dialogue and weak romance junk, and Finally, Screw these people making Garbage claims like this and all up on Coates nuts:[/b]
[QUOTE]"Ta-Nehisi Coates has been building one of the best Marvel runs of the past half decade with his turn on “Black Panther,”[B] helping to establish T’Challa as a major player in the Marvel Universe[/B] before his feature film in February of 2018. "[/QUOTE]
[B]Coates has literally done none of that, if anything he has made T'Challa and Wakanda look weak ass hell and very much incapable of handling threats. Wholly incompetent nation and Black Panther[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3109290][B]Gross. That art looks horrid, Also, Screw the MA and there boring dialogue and weak romance junk, and Finally, Screw these people making Garbage claims like this and all up on Coates nuts:[/b]
[B]Coates has literally done none of that, if anything he has made T'Challa and Wakanda look weak ass hell and very much incapable of handling threats. Wholly incompetent nation and Black Panther[/B][/QUOTE]
How can he help establish him if he refuses to be part of the big events?. lol
CA Civil War did more for BP than he could ever do. He's just rode the wave and is hoping February will bring another one. The other two he tried to make himself fell apart before they reached the shore. lol
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[QUOTE=Cville;3109305]How can he help establish him if he refuses to be part of the big events?. lol
CA Civil War did more for BP than he could ever do. He's just rode the wave and is hoping February will bring another one. The other two he tried to make himself fell apart before they reached the shore. lol[/QUOTE]
[B]Pretty much, Spencer even handed him an easy tie in on a silver plater, Giving an easy boost to sales and a good showing in the event. But Coates with his whole "Im Glad i can do my own thing and not tie into events" Basically to me came off like "Im Glad i don't have to do events because then i would have to actually care about the title character because otherwise i would of HAD to story T'challa lookng formidable smashing hydra soldiers and Zola Like the formidable hero he is and thats too hard for me to do." [/B]
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Establish Black Panther as a major player in the Marvel Universe? Oh sure, and John Stewart is totally going to be in the Justice League movie. And good lord that art is an eye sore.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3109250]Preview of #18. Looks like the art took the month off. lol
[url]http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/black-panther-18/[/url][/QUOTE]
Well the writing has been on a break for a year+ so the art was bound to follow
Seriously that dialogue is atrocious, "men so easily lead astray"
That is some bs a straight guy would assume a lesbian who he's never met would say
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[QUOTE=Cville;3109250]Preview of #18. Looks like the art took the month off. lol
[url]http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/black-panther-18/[/url][/QUOTE]
The MA seem to be doing some sort of James Bond spy sort of vibe with the gear and the disguises. That's kinda cool. I sort of wonder where they get their tech from.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3109650]The MA seem to be doing some sort of James Bond spy sort of vibe with the gear and the disguises. That's kinda cool. I sort of wonder where they get their tech from.[/QUOTE]
Probably on recon with support from BP and/or New Wakandan govt
Preview looked good Torres art is a little different from Sprouse but I'm getting use to it I tend to like his action scenes a bit better. The story keeps getting bigger and bigger I like how the threats are compounding and how they're being dealt with at the same time and how every issue tends to rotate back in fourth. I also like how the locale changed first time back Azania since the mini way back. Heres hoping they rescue QDJ this issue.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3109314][B]Pretty much, Spencer even handed him an easy tie in on a silver plater, Giving an easy boost to sales and a good showing in the event. But Coates with his whole "Im Glad i can do my own thing and not tie into events" Basically to me came off like "Im Glad i don't have to do events because then i would have to actually care about the title character because otherwise i would of HAD to story T'challa lookng formidable smashing hydra soldiers and Zola Like the formidable hero he is and thats too hard for me to do." [/B][/QUOTE]
Please don't forget that Ewing did a hell of a lay for coates by showing a so-called street level character Panther ascend to abstract deity just through sheer force of will ...like how can you just waste all that potential...? I'm lead to believe that marvel is afraid of cutting coates loose, or they know full well the damage he is wrecking on Black Panther.
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[QUOTE=dkrook;3109829]Please don't forget that Ewing did a hell of a lay for coates by showing a so-called street level character Panther ascend to abstract deity just through sheer force of will ...like how can you just waste all that potential...? I'm lead to believe that marvel is afraid of cutting coates loose, or they know full well the damage he is wrecking on Black Panther.[/QUOTE]
If rumors are true, they got that Cap. America seat waiting for him. Cant cut him loose now without losing face.
Plus they get the national exposure by people writing articles about him in political magazines. Not too much of that lately.
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[QUOTE=dkrook;3109829]Please don't forget that Ewing did a hell of a lay for coates by showing a so-called street level character Panther ascend to abstract deity just through sheer force of will ...like how can you just waste all that potential...? I'm lead to believe that marvel is afraid of cutting coates loose, or they know full well the damage he is wrecking on Black Panther.[/QUOTE]
[B]It would turn into a race thing like they tried to do With BP &C. Ignoring The fact that Coates is actually just a shitty comic book writer. But that's what happens when everyone rides his nuts claiming he shit of a run is more then it actually is. My hope is that he moves on to cap, the fans turn on him abf run him off to the X office where he clearly wants to be and get a real writer on BP[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3109290][B]Gross. That art looks horrid, Also, Screw the MA and there boring dialogue and weak romance junk, and Finally, Screw these people making Garbage claims like this and all up on Coates nuts:[/b]
[B]Coates has literally done none of that, if anything he has made T'Challa and Wakanda look weak ass hell and very much incapable of handling threats. Wholly incompetent nation and Black Panther[/B][/QUOTE]
Heh. Coates "establishing T'Challa as a major player in the Marvel Universe." "One of the best runs of the past half decade."
No words can describe or express the utter bullsh!t in those two statements.
I don't know what the frak that person is reading.
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Coates made T'Challa look baaaaaaaaad.
Hopefully the impending success of the Black Panther movie will have Marvel strap a rocket to the character. He should be the Batman of Marvel and just as pivotal.
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The sad thing is Coates was suppose to be that rocket
"Dude think he's a firecracker but he's nothing but a dud"
-Dangerous Dane
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;3110106]The sad thing is Coates was suppose to be that rocket
"Dude think he's a firecracker but he's nothing but a dud"
-Dangerous Dane[/QUOTE]
"Some kid's Spider-Man."
That's what Coates was going to do to BP. That was his first mistake.
BP was already established as a solid character with a good background and strong supporting cast.
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The main title may have dodged a bullet not tying into SE or Civil War 2. Narrative wise they weren't as strong as other crossovers
BP title ain't doing bad it's outselling Luke, Danny, Jess, DD, Champions, Uncanny Avengers and a lot of other titles. Sales appears to be down overall.
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[QUOTE=C_haos;3110138]The main title may have dodged a bullet not tying into SE or Civil War 2. Narrative wise they weren't as strong as other crossovers
BP title ain't doing bad it's outselling Luke, Danny, Jess, DD, Champions, Uncanny Avengers and a lot of other titles. Sales appears to be down overall.[/QUOTE]
The solo should have tied into the event though, seeing as how T'Challa did have a role in the main books.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3109991]Heh. Coates "establishing T'Challa as a major player in the Marvel Universe." "One of the best runs of the past half decade."
No words can describe or express the utter bullsh!t in those two statements.
I don't know what the frak that person is reading.[/QUOTE]
[B]It's statements like that there that just show these people are just saying shit to ride the wave. Like that bullshit article about the crew being a very important store after it was cancelled, they Tried to make a fuss about it but the truth is twofold. 1 BP fans saw through the bullshit for what it was and they weren't gonna fall for a "BP spin off" again. 2 it was cancelled because everyone knew it was shit band Everyone could see it a mile away. See people are riding Coates nuts so much that They are making him think he is more talented then he actually is, and as Such he thought he could expand his garbage further and it crashed and burned.. unfortunately the kne who takes the hit is Tchalla. So the sooner this clown is removed from the mythos, the sooner we can get back this garbage of a series [/B]
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3110147]The solo should have tied into the event though, seeing as how T'Challa did have a role in the main books.[/QUOTE]
Coates likely turned in his script for season 2 before SE was even finished being written.
Generally speaking, I think typing into company wide events should be an option but not an obligation. In a lot of cases it's just jarring for a book to suddenly get side tracked by some big event for 2-3 issues to help tell another persons story.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3110210]Coates likely turned in his script for season 2 before SE was even finished being written.
Generally speaking, I think typing into company wide events should be an option but not an obligation. In a lot of cases it's just jarring for a book to suddenly get side tracked by some big event for 2-3 issues to help tell another persons story.[/QUOTE]
[B]If the character you are writing is In The story then they need to acknowledge it. Especially Given that Tchalla could of had a much better and more important role had Coates cared about giving Tchalla good showings. Hardly an excuse. It was an opportunity to showcase tk the rest of the Mu why Wakanda is not to be fucked with[/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3110237]If the character you are writing is In The story then they need to acknowledge it. Especially Given that Tchalla could of had a much better and more important role had Coates cared about giving Tchalla good showings. Hardly an excuse. [B]It was an opportunity to showcase tk the rest of the Mu why Wakanda is not to be fucked with[/B][/QUOTE]
You weren't going to get that out of Coates. Hydra Cap would have set up labor camps in Wakanda and T'Challa would have given Steve a grumpy look over it.