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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2978757]Inspired creation by Hudlin.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. As annoying as I initially found Shuri, she hands down is best supporting character the mythos ever had. Not only does she have the ability to play off the character differently than most in that she's his sister, but she's also a super hero in her own right. I'm glad the movie recognizes her value. A few months back I was worried she wouldn't even be in the film.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2978285]Has anyone mentioned that they're collecting Panther's Quest in Trade for the first time? That's so exciting. It's pretty much not available anywhere unless you want to buy 25 issues of Marvel Comics Presents.[/QUOTE]
Now they just need to collect Panther's Prey and the Black Panther mini.
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Both are relatively easy to collect, though, in fairness. I think four parts each, but I'd have to doublecheck.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2978285]Has anyone mentioned that they're collecting Panther's Quest in Trade for the first time? That's so exciting. It's pretty much not available anywhere unless you want to buy 25 issues of Marvel Comics Presents.[/QUOTE]
Collecting Don Mac's run, eh?
My feelings about Don Mac's run are the same as my feelings about Coates' run. Complete and utter dreck. It's a frakking joke.
We now return to our regularly scheduled posts.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2978381]Considering he had T'Challa whip up some homemade mutant power nullifier I wouldn't say we wouldn't have gotten space travel from him since his run was cut short for event reasons
Granted we're not getting a space program from Coates either so tomatoe tamatoe[/QUOTE]
Not getting much of anything else either.
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Lupita has posted Day 2 of herself undercover at SDCC, she got a Black Panther sketch in a book by noted artist Sanford Greene and bought a Black Panther shirt from a vendor
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[QUOTE=Cville;2978471]Latest update on Tchalla/Shuri inelegance movie debate. No new information, but it is on the net now. Lets see if it gets traction.
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-movie-shuri-tchalla/[/url][/QUOTE]
U mean intelligence....what are this supposedly comic savvy journalist asking question wise anyway?
Maybe they will make T'Challa more theoretical and Shuri more practical...ie T'Challa is more Theoretical Physics and Shuri is more Mechanical Engineer.
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[QUOTE=JediKage;2978880]U mean intelligence....what are this supposedly comic savvy journalist asking question wise anyway?
Maybe they will make T'Challa more theoretical and Shuri more practical...ie T'Challa is more Theoretical Physics and Shuri is more Mechanical Engineer.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, thought autocorrect took care of that.
They're bringing up the issue that has been discussed sense the actress brought it up. Shuris' intellect has been increased, but no mention of Tchalla.
I would assume most don't want to see his feats diminished to build her up.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2978381]Considering he had T'Challa whip up some homemade mutant power nullifier I wouldn't say we wouldn't have gotten space travel from him since his run was cut short for event reasons
Granted we're not getting a space program from Coates either so tomatoe tamatoe[/QUOTE]
Honestly I think that run was cut short due to sales.
But I kind of agree space travel seemed an unlikely plot threat in a book centering around Hello Kitchen.
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2978856]Lupita has posted Day 2 of herself undercover at SDCC, she got a Black Panther sketch in a book by noted artist Sanford Greene and bought a Black Panther shirt from a vendor[/QUOTE]
I'll keep a look out at NYCC. lol
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;2978850]Collecting Don Mac's run, eh?
My feelings about Don Mac's run are the same as my feelings about Coates' run. Complete and utter dreck. It's a frakking joke.
We now return to our regularly scheduled posts.[/QUOTE]
Obviously, if anyone has read my posts, we disagree significantly on both fronts (I've even brought up Panther's Rage in defense of Coates's portrayal of Wakanda and a T'Challa who falls on occasion). That being said, I like McGregor's stuff significantly more than Coates. I still consider Panther's Rage to be the best Black Panther story (I may unfairly lump Priest's entire run into one thing out of laziness so the best and worst average out a bit lower as my second favorite). I also consider Panther's Quest to be my second favorite McGregor story hurt only by the Marvel Comics Presents format. To each his own, though.
[QUOTE=XPac;2978925]
But I kind of agree space travel seemed an unlikely plot threat in a book centering around Hello Kitchen.[/QUOTE]
Hate to poke fun, but that typo is adorable in so many different ways.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2979489]
Hate to poke fun, but that typo is adorable in so many different ways.[/QUOTE]
Typo? Isn't "Hello Kitchen" an anime about kittens in a pre-gentrified New York over run by ninjas with bows in their hair? :p
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2979508]Typo? Isn't "Hello Kitchen" an anime about kittens in a pre-gentrified New York over run by ninjas with bows in their hair? :p[/QUOTE]
Exactly the image I was talking about ;)
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2979508]Typo? Isn't "Hello Kitchen" an anime about kittens in a pre-gentrified New York over run by ninjas with bows in their hair? :p[/QUOTE]
If it's not it should be.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;2978850]Collecting Don Mac's run, eh?
My feelings about Don Mac's run are the same as my feelings about Coates' run. Complete and utter dreck. It's a frakking joke.
We now return to our regularly scheduled posts.[/QUOTE]
I'm more so a fan of Don McGregor's work on Killraven and Sabre but I did enjoy some aspects of his Black Panther work minus Panther's Question, the KKK business and the Crack Cocaine in Wakanda stuff.
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[QUOTE=MoneySpider;2966518]And also in real life, people go back to their exes, or have on-again off-again relationships with their significant others. Sometimes divorced couples remarry each other. Characters like Ross and Rachel from "Friends" and J.R. Ewing and Sue Ellen Ewing from "Dallas" come to mind, as well as Gary and Valene Ewing from "Knots Landing."
Those characters dated, married, cheated on each other, took relationship breaks, got divorced, married others, divorced those other spouses, got back with their exes, remarried their exes, etc. etc. This kind of behavior/storytelling drama happens a lot in fiction and probably happens a lot in real life, too.
I see no reason why T'Challa and Ororo can't rekindle their romance when a whole bunch of other fictional couples are allowed to do it.[/QUOTE]
Hello? Yes! These two should be forbidden lovers that always find themselves back together. Lol some of Wakanda's citizens don't like her. Quite a few of the Dora Milaje tried to take her head off, literally. And the high priest of the Panther Clan annulled her marriage, took away her dual citizenship and banned her from the country. Yet and still she always finds her way back in the throne room. And T'Challa's. Lol This woman is caught up in her feelings. I guess he puts it down?
[QUOTE=Smoov-E;2966549]All those characters you cited are all under the same franchise umbrella and now let's look at T'Challa and Storm. In his book they are around each other and talking while over in the X-Men books she is featured in they make no mention of her being around him let alone her taking trips to Wakanda, when Supes and Wonder Woman where dating despite them being under two separate franchise umbrellas DC made sure that they acknowledged their courtship in their respective titles as well as creating a separate joint title they both shared.
Bringing it back home we have once again the BP office doing all of the work and under better writers we all saw how that turned out
And none of the on again off again stuff is never fun or interesting to read about[/QUOTE]
I understand your pov. I really do. From the beginning of their union BP was the only title to do any of the work required to make this couple last. There were a few bright spots on the X-side of things, but I can count all of them on one hand. But more often than not, the X-office can't get Storm right. So it doesn't make sense to expect them to get her relationship right. That's like having the fox guard the hen house. That's all.
We should have a truce. Some of your post are quite funny.
[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2966557]There is no decent reason. The MU and the MCU dont need to mirror each other. Whatever beef fanbases,editorial staffs, or Disney/Fox have should not interfere in a good story. Its a good pairing with no other decent option for either to go to. Logan and Storm is a hot garbage pairing, and I have always thought that. Oh crap, I feel a x-men diatribe coming out.....LET IT GO...huthaifa....let it go:)[/QUOTE]
Some of you get it, and it makes me happy. Bast be praised!
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Found these
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-movie-mbaku-rivalry-explained/[/url]
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-role-important-factor-avengers-infinity-war-chadwick-boseman/[/url]
I find it interesting what Winston Duke says about M'Baku character being young and charismatic (he's a good looking dude so it figures), and also he's purposely vague about his abilities. I mean he's clearly lifting a fully grown man with one arm. That's some Captain America level type strength. Maybe he does the ritual at some point in the film and shocks everyone with his new powers? Everyone else seemed quite stunned and scared during the brief shot of him in the trailer.
Ad also, Chadwick Boseman saying he has a considerable role in Infinity War has me excited and also worried. I don't think he'll die of course but I fear for Wakanda. Also hoping Okoye and M'Baku don't die in this either
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2979943]Found these
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-movie-mbaku-rivalry-explained/[/url]
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-role-important-factor-avengers-infinity-war-chadwick-boseman/[/url]
I find it interesting what Winston Duke says about M'Baku character being young and charismatic (he's a good looking dude so it figures), and also he's purposely vague about his abilities. I mean he's clearly lifting a fully grown man with one arm. That's some Captain America level type strength. Maybe he does the ritual at some point in the film and shocks everyone with his new powers? Everyone else seemed quite stunned and scared during the brief shot of him in the trailer.
Ad also, Chadwick Boseman saying he has a considerable role in Infinity War has me excited and also worried. I don't think he'll die of course but I fear for Wakanda. Also hoping Okoye and M'Baku don't die in this either[/QUOTE]
Since M'Baku likely won't be going around wearing high tech armor like T'Challa he likely will have to be much physically stronger to compensate.
As far as fearing for Wakanda .... Amy place with an Infinity Stone likely will have something to be worried about.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2979954]Since M'Baku likely won't be going around wearing high tech armor like T'Challa he likely will have to be much physically stronger to compensate.
As far as fearing for Wakanda .... Any place with an Infinity Stone likely will have something to be worried about.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm kind of concerned for Wakanda as well, I can only watch it get destroyed so many times. But I think M'Baku and Okoye should be fine, especially the former since BP needs some villains for future films. Kinda bummed Nakia isn't gonna be in IW but hey, can't have everything.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2979954]Since M'Baku likely won't be going around wearing high tech armor like T'Challa he likely will have to be much physically stronger to compensate.
As far as fearing for Wakanda .... Amy place with an Infinity Stone likely will have something to be worried about.[/QUOTE]
Are there rumors that Wakanda has a stone?
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[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;2979964]Are there rumors that Wakanda has a stone?[/QUOTE]
Well there's been a lot of speculation that the soul stone is in wakanda as that's the only stone that's yet to be revealed. Plus it'd be the perfect set up for BP getting his king of the dead powers in a future film.
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2979968]Well there's been a lot of speculation that the soul stone is in wakanda as that's the only stone that's yet to be revealed. Plus it'd be the perfect set up for BP getting his king of the dead powers in a future film.[/QUOTE]
Ah okay.
I kinda doubt the soul gem is in Wakanda. I'd bet money that the tone will be socio-poltical, and that leaves little to no room for a magic stone with heart powers.
I suspect we'll see the next stone in Thor, or be a hunt for it in Avengers Infinity War.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2979943]Found these
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-movie-mbaku-rivalry-explained/[/url]
[url]http://screenrant.com/black-panther-role-important-factor-avengers-infinity-war-chadwick-boseman/[/url]
Ad also, Chadwick Boseman saying he has a considerable role in Infinity War has me excited and also worried. I don't think he'll die of course but I fear for Wakanda. Also hoping Okoye and M'Baku don't die in this either[/QUOTE]
Don't fear for Wakanda, simply because it will get devastated but it will be rebuilt just like most Superhero backdrops.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2979954]Since M'Baku likely won't be going around wearing high tech armor like T'Challa he likely will have to be much physically stronger to compensate.
As far as fearing for Wakanda .... Amy place with an Infinity Stone likely will have something to be worried about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;2979964]Are there rumors that Wakanda has a stone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2979968]Well there's been a lot of speculation that the soul stone is in wakanda as that's the only stone that's yet to be revealed. Plus it'd be the perfect set up for BP getting his king of the dead powers in a future film.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;2979976]Ah okay.
I kinda doubt the soul gem is in Wakanda. I'd bet money that the tone will be socio-poltical, and that leaves little to no room for a magic stone with heart powers.
I suspect we'll see the next stone in Thor, or be a hunt for it in Avengers Infinity War.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, I can't see why Wakanda would have the Soul Stone or what they would be doing with it (unless they have no idea it's there). I know that there's been a bit of King of the Dead foreshadowing in Civil War and perhaps Necropolis was teased in some concept art, but I feel like the Time or Space Zone would make more sense for them.
I'm kinda hoping Heimdall has (some connection to) the Soul Stone because if it's true it would have been foreshadowed all the way back from the first Thor movie and I think that would be brilliant
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Also noticed that Killmonger's bottom canines are golden plated or are just gold themselves
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[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;2979964]Are there rumors that Wakanda has a stone?[/QUOTE]
I'm not certain there are actually rumors that the stones are in Wakanda.
But if Wakanda ends up getting attacked by Thanos, then that's a pretty good indicator that a stone is there. It's unlikely Thanos would attack Wakanda just for the heck of it.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;2979990]The thing is, I can't see why Wakanda would have the Soul Stone or what they would be doing with it (unless they have no idea it's there). I know that there's been a bit of King of the Dead foreshadowing in Civil War and perhaps Necropolis was teased in some concept art, but I feel like the Time or Space Zone would make more sense for them.
I'm kinda hoping Heimdall has (some connection to) the Soul Stone because if it's true it would have been foreshadowed all the way back from the first Thor movie and I think that would be brilliant[/QUOTE]
I was assuming that we'd discover the solomon frogs were the time gem, but Dr. Strange endedup having it.
Still, I think for a character like T'Challa the soul gem fits as well. Theres a mysticla/spiritual element to the mythos and it wouldn't take much tweaking stick it in there.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2979979]Don't fear for Wakanda, simply because it will get devastated but it will be rebuilt just like most Superhero backdrops.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, these sort of things tend to get reversed fairly quickly. Fictional marvel cities get destroyed and rebuilt overnight like they're made out of Legos.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2980029]I'm not certain there are actually rumors that the stones are in Wakanda.
But if Wakanda ends up getting attacked by Thanos, then that's a pretty good indicator that a stone is there. It's unlikely Thanos would attack Wakanda just for the heck of it.[/QUOTE]
True, but it could just as easily be he wants Wakanda for it's tactical positioning as he searches earth for the stone. Isolated, resource rich, etc.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2979557]Exactly the image I was talking about ;)[/QUOTE]
Someone should pitch this to Image! :o
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2979656]I'm more so a fan of Don McGregor's work on Killraven and Sabre but I did enjoy some aspects of his Black Panther work minus Panther's Question, the KKK business and the Crack Cocaine in Wakanda stuff.[/QUOTE]
Although there was a conclusion to the KKK story it wasn't Don's. I'm kinda interested in how he might have taken it.
I'm a [B]BIG[/B] fan of his Killraven and Sabre stories.
Heck, even though they came out 30yrs ago, I can easily see some people ripping up those Sabre stories on You Tube if they came out today ( interracial romance, gay sidekicks, etc).
Maj, I can't remember if it's come up before, but have you ( or anyone) read any of Don's Detective Inc stories?
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2980203]Although there was a conclusion to the KKK story it wasn't Don's. I'm kinda interested in how he might have taken it.
I'm a [B]BIG[/B] fan of his Killraven and Sabre stories.
Heck, even though they came out 30yrs ago, I can easily see some people ripping up those Sabre stories on You Tube if they came out today.
Maj, I can't remember if it's come up before, but have you ( or anyone) read any of Don's Detective Inc stories?[/QUOTE]
I haven't had the pleasure my friend. :)
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I feel need to check out his Killraven stuff - particularly since it was referenced recently in Civil War II.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2980035]Yeah, these sort of things tend to get reversed fairly quickly. Fictional marvel cities get destroyed and rebuilt overnight like they're made out of Legos.[/QUOTE]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]You mean like the Sovereign Republic of New Tian in Northern California?[/FONT]
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2980318]I haven't had the pleasure my friend. :)[/QUOTE]
I would recommend it for it's historical significance for than anything else. There's two series published by Eclipse Comics. The first one is a two part story with art by Marshall Rogers, the second has art by Gene Colon. The first one is what I think folks this thread should read. Basically the premise is a black and white detective team taking on cases and blah blah blah. It did deal with LGTB themes way back in 1980 when it wasn't normal thing to talk about in mainstream comics. As a mystery it's actually kind of meh...but the characterization is really interesting although it's pretty obvious that Don was working out his relationship issues through this comic ( the black det has a loving supportive relationship, but the white det is going through a bitter divorce). What's even more interesting is that in the back matter he talks in detail about issues he had with Marvel editors at the time...one person liking his work, but uncomfortable with the interracial romances that he put in his stories. Someone telling him he was getting fired from Jungle Action cuz he was "too close to the 'black experience'"...Don said he replied, "What, you want your black heroes to be as boring as the white ones?"
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[QUOTE=BlackClaw;2978583]Leakers be slippin when it comes to Wakanda.[/QUOTE]
Considering Klaw couldn't even make it out without a horrible scar on his face I'd say the leakers were well within their rights to be..wary
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;2979656]I'm more so a fan of Don McGregor's work on Killraven and Sabre but I did enjoy some aspects of his Black Panther work minus Panther's Question, the KKK business and the Crack Cocaine in Wakanda stuff.[/QUOTE]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]What issue of Black Panther touched upon the Klu Klux Klan and Crack Cocaine in Wakanda?[/FONT]
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[QUOTE=ZNOP;2980457][FONT=Comic Sans MS]What issue of Black Panther touched upon the Klu Klux Klan and Crack Cocaine in Wakanda?[/FONT][/QUOTE]
The Klan issues were roughly JA #19-24...I think. I know certain folks have problem with JA#20 cuz that the one were BP gets hit in the head by an old lady with a can of tuna...but I liked the end were the white reporter explains why he's standing against injustice despite the fact he and his family are at risk by standing by Monica Lynn's family.
[IMG]https://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/28/2016/09/538cd01b59f0c.jpg[/IMG]
The story was called "They Sold Me A Myth I Wanted to Believe"...it was written 40yrs ago but I think it's still relevant today.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2980494]The Klan issues were roughly JA #19-24...I think. I know certain folks have problem with JA#20 cuz that the one were BP gets hit in the head by an old lady with a can of tuna...but I liked the end were the white reporter explains why he's standing against injustice despite the fact he and his family are at risk by standing by Monica Lynn's family.
[IMG]https://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/28/2016/09/538cd01b59f0c.jpg[/IMG]
The story was called "They Sold Me A Myth I Wanted to Believe"...it was written 40yrs ago but I think it's still relevant today.[/QUOTE]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Thanks... That's a title I don't have -- I'm gonna have to try to get it tonight :cool: but, until I do -- I take it the KKK weren't in Wakanda, huh?[/FONT]