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Too bad that (apparently?) no one has approached Art Adams about drawing a [I]Panther [/I]ongoing or mini. It seems like Marvel's "high profile" artists are always "reserved" for projects other than minority heroes. John Romita Jr.'s stint on [I]Panther [/I] years ago was one of the exceptions.
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Marvel should do a crossover which has all the various "supernations" at war. Wakanda, Atlantis, Latveria, US, Attilan, Madripoor, AIM Island, whoever.
Basically WWIII. It would make those nations "important" to the larger MU and would be an insane mega crossover. Plus it would drum up A LOT of interest for the fallout series The Black Panther, Namor, DOOM, The Inhumans, SHIELD, etc.
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;140936]Marvel should do a crossover which has all the various "supernations" at war. Wakanda, Atlantis, Latveria, US, Attilan, Madripoor, AIM Island, whoever.
Basically WWIII. It would make those nations "important" to the larger MU and would be an insane mega crossover. Plus it would drum up A LOT of interest for the fallout series The Black Panther, Namor, DOOM, The Inhumans, SHIELD, etc.[/QUOTE]
I been saying this forever. I think it should be Kree/Skrull war on earth where the other heroes worry that their war will cause harm to everyone else. Mainly Wakanda vs Atlantis and give some focus on the great soldiers/warriors/scientists they have and not so much on the kings/queens. In my head it's like Basilisk meets Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
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[QUOTE=neohuey89;140991]I been saying this forever. I think it should be Kree/Skrull war on earth where the other heroes worry that their war will cause harm to everyone else. Mainly Wakanda vs Atlantis and give some focus on the great soldiers/warriors/scientists they have and not so much on the kings/queens. In my head it's like Basilisk meets Romance of the Three Kingdoms.[/QUOTE]
What's funny is that Hudlin really kind of set this up during Civil War [B]in Black Panther[/B]! Honestly, a World War Marvel should have been the next logical step following Civil War.
It would have kept the people from the Avengers: Initiative in play as well.
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;141190]What's funny is that Hudlin really kind of set this up during Civil War [B]in Black Panther[/B]! Honestly, a World War Marvel should have been the next logical step following Civil War.
It would have kept the people from the Avengers: Initiative in play as well.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel did do a Super Hero World War thing in the future
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;140936]Marvel should do a crossover which has all the various "supernations" at war. Wakanda, Atlantis, Latveria, US, Attilan, Madripoor, AIM Island, whoever.
Basically WWIII. It would make those nations "important" to the larger MU and would be an insane mega crossover. Plus it would drum up A LOT of interest for the fallout series The Black Panther, Namor, DOOM, The Inhumans, SHIELD, etc.[/QUOTE]
I've been saying this or wanting something close to this for awhile.
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A world war would be great.
Wakanda vs Atlantis with Doom having to join Atlantis because of their treaty. And Black Bolt joining Wakanda
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[QUOTE=Ekie;143098]A world war would be great.
Wakanda vs Atlantis with Doom having to join Atlantis because of their treaty. And Black Bolt joining Wakanda[/QUOTE]
World War 1 with super powers...
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How about just having a freaking Black Panther monthly ongoing that explores T'Challa, Shuri and Wakanda exploring the origins of Wakanda as well as it's future through the space exploratrion hinted at by Jonathan in New Avengers #1?
[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/xpyfqg.jpg[/IMG]
And besides this, the fact still remains that in the aftermath of AvX, there has been zero exploration of the Wakandan position on the breach of its borders by Storm and her band of mutant marauders with all the attendant collateral and personal damage that resulted from that assault.
[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/282o7n.jpg[/IMG]
And let's not forget devastating near genocidal attack that Namor and his horde of Atlantean barabarians carried out on hapless Wakandan citizens.
Namor was an X-Men affiliate at the time of that attack so it's patently ridiculous that the only time the sheer criminality of Namor's action against Wakanda is addresed outside of Hickman's NA is in FF#5.
[IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/21kxylv.jpg[/IMG]
I keep saying that a Black Panther solo book is essential for all of these themes to be explored in more detail rather than what obtains now where Shuri and Wakanda are barely seen and T'Challa 's KOTD abilities are barely hinted at while he stays brooding in the Necropolis.
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;139425]Too bad that (apparently?) no one has approached Art Adams about drawing a [I]Panther [/I]ongoing or mini. It seems like Marvel's "high profile" artists are always "reserved" for projects other than minority heroes. John Romita Jr.'s stint on [I]Panther [/I] years ago was one of the exceptions.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's not that cut and dry( as I side bar for a minute ), I asked Mark Brooks at a con about what on twitter do folks got to do to get a Miles Morales cover out of him and he said he didn't know as he'd love to do one and he's talked to Skottie Young who said the exact same thing, he even assumed he'd get to draw Miles for the 200th issue but didn't. So some artist want to do it but if the editor ain't feeling it then that is where the problem is
Art Adams does sell prints at cons and all his Avengers prints have T'Challa in them both with and without cape
Now back to the show
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[QUOTE=Smoov-E;144714]Actually it's not that cut and dry( as I side bar for a minute ), I asked Mark Brooks at a con about what on twitter do folks got to do to get a Miles Morales cover out of him and he said he didn't know as he'd love to do one and he's talked to Skottie Young who said the exact same thing, he even assumed he'd get to draw Miles for the 200th issue but didn't. So some artist want to do it but if the editor ain't feeling it then that is where the problem is
Art Adams does sell prints at cons and all his Avengers prints have T'Challa in them both with and without cape
Now back to the show[/QUOTE]
this is why any future Black Panther ongoing needs an editor that has his ear to the ground as to what his readers would want and enough pull to get things done. i think one of the things that hampered the last BP ongoing was the editor was kinda outside the big editorial offices and did not have the pull to get some things done.
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;141190]What's funny is that Hudlin really kind of set this up during Civil War [B]in Black Panther[/B]! Honestly, a World War Marvel should have been the next logical step following Civil War.
It would have kept the people from the Avengers: Initiative in play as well.[/QUOTE]
I'd say Priest set it up and Hudlin just built on it...
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;144870]I'd say Priest set it up and Hudlin just built on it...[/QUOTE]
Priest wasn't writing Black Panther during Civil War.
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[QUOTE=Spear of Bashenga;141190]What's funny is that Hudlin really kind of set this up during Civil War [B]in Black Panther[/B]! Honestly, a World War Marvel should have been the next logical step following Civil War.
It would have kept the people from the Avengers: Initiative in play as well.[/QUOTE]
What if AXIS is that story?
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[QUOTE=Moose100;147249]What if AXIS is that story?[/QUOTE]
I really hope T'challa isn't in that event.
Thanks Maj I think i'll pick up the floppies since the trade doesn't come out till September.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;147472]I really hope T'challa isn't in that event.
Thanks Maj I think i'll pick up the floppies since the trade doesn't come out till September.[/QUOTE]
No probs my bro. :cool:
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[url]http://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/6/2/22609/path_of_the_black_panther_a_retrospective_pt_1[/url]
I didn't know about Don wanting to do the Apartheid story. I really wish he did it since we rarely see T'challa dealing with African issues plus it had something to do with his mother which we know next to nothing about but I'm happy we got the Panther vs the Klan story.
Don's last quote in this interview is pretty funny since its the same today but that's a topic for another thread lol.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;153450][url]http://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/6/2/22609/path_of_the_black_panther_a_retrospective_pt_1[/url]
I didn't know about Don wanting to do the Apartheid story. I really wish he did it since we rarely see T'challa dealing with African issues plus it had something to do with his mother which we know next to nothing about but I'm happy we got the Panther vs the Klan story.
Don's last quote in this interview is pretty funny since its the same today but that's a topic for another thread lol.[/QUOTE]
this is a great article, Don McGregor put a lot of effort into making sure BP stood for something and dealt with societal issues insted of taking the easy road and making BP a caricature.
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New Batman Arkham video game screenshots look Black Panthery to me. Or at least American Panther/
[IMG]http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/BAK-Sshot077-88cfa.jpg[/IMG]
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Might as well jack the Black Panther vibe if he is not using it himself! ;)
If I were a Batman writer I would use all of Black Panther's concepts and hardly anyone would notice... Except for diehard Black Panther fans though! :cool:
This would be an excellent preemptive strike for DC to mine all things Black Panther and block what money could come to this franchise!
I would even have Batman do an archeological dig funded by Bruce Wayne in Africa for an ancient civilization's tech ideas as a mockery to how so much of what Black Panther could be doing is buried beneath the sands of time!
The Heart of Africa... Wakanda, or what is left of it.
Bruce: "Alfred look at this heart shaped herb I found!"
Alfred: "Surely Master Wayne you are not going to eat that without further testing done on it's properties."
Bruce: "Heck yeah Alfred, high fiber diets keep you regular!'
Alfred: "Is this some way of saying that you will be crapping on someone symbolically?"
Bruce: "Look Alfred a Kimoyo Card! SWEET!"
Alfred: "Looks like an iPhone to me."
Bruce: "Catwoman would love this place they worshipped cats here long ago!"
Alfred: "I don't think Catwoman will have anything to do with Bast ever again after all the negative reviews for her solo movie."
Speaking of which I need to reserve my copy of Batman: Arkham Knight and hope this comes with an apology for all the crashes and freezes with the Batman: Arkham Origins game!
The Batmobile looks cool now that the power of the new Playstation and Xbox is upgraded!
[video=youtube_share;umoXFu4OHmE]http://youtu.be/umoXFu4OHmE[/video]
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[QUOTE=Zuri;155212]this is a great article, Don McGregor put a lot of effort into making sure BP stood for something and dealt with societal issues insted of taking the easy road and making BP a caricature.[/QUOTE]
That's why I used to always laugh when people would complain about Hudlin's run tackling certain issue while at the same time claiming they loved the previoius stuff. Black Panther has been dealing with that sort of thing for decades now. People said Hudlin was too heavy handed with it but compared to some of those old Panther stories Hudlin damn near tip toed around some stuff.
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[QUOTE=ExcelsiorPrime;156318]New Batman Arkham video game screenshots look Black Panthery to me. Or at least American Panther/
[IMG]http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/BAK-Sshot077-88cfa.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
that really angers me.
Makes me hate Marvel
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A few tweaks of the Thrice Blessed Armor and the distinction between Black Panther and Batman can be made... In fact calling it "Thriced Blessed" should probably be the standard as part of the whole ceremonial concept!
I was at the gym talking to a dude who had just taken my son to school on the basketball court... Quick Note: I actually tell the older and better ball players to go hard at my son to force him to adapt to the higher level on the fly to make him mores BOSS by the time senior year comes around and he graduates to being watched by Global Honored on somebody's NCAA tournament team! Lol
One of the white guys who plays basketball wears Captain America t-shirts and I having played in one of my Black Panther t-shirts on occasion often talk comics while guarding each other every now and then... I should take a picture of that one day he has some cool shirts!
The other guy who schooled my son was a brotha from Jamaica so I showed him a picture of Black Panther on my iPhone to which he replied that it looked too much like Batman!
Other than my t-shirts this was the first time he had ever heard of Black Panther as a character and thought that I meant the Black Panther Party!
The Batman and Black Panther Party connection is a problem one way or another even for those who are black so a clear distance must be made from those other well known entities to separate Black Panther as a stand alone intellectual property!
It should not be too hard to distinguish between a bat and a dark coated leopard but this is why T'challa should be a bonafide king of a nation and not yet another black spandex wearing vigilante member of the Avengers!
If upon first initial response of seeing Black Panther another black man sees him as a Batman ripoff this is problematic!
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[video=youtube_share;BH4pWPyq5L8]http://youtu.be/BH4pWPyq5L8[/video]
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;156812]That's why I used to always laugh when people would complain about Hudlin's run tackling certain issue while at the same time claiming they loved the previoius stuff. Black Panther has been dealing with that sort of thing for decades now. People said Hudlin was too heavy handed with it but compared to some of those old Panther stories Hudlin damn near tip toed around some stuff.[/QUOTE]
I never understood the hate for the Katrina arc
[QUOTE=Ekie;157028]that really angers me.
Makes me hate Marvel[/QUOTE]
You should hate DC for this not Marvel
T'challa still looks the same as he did in 1966, its the different versions of Batman that look more like BP
You can't call Black Panther a Batman ripoff when Batman looked like this in 1966
[url]http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6400000/Batman-1966-batman-6426733-1024-768.gif[/url]
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I don't think there would be confusion if Marvel released a film titled Black Panther with the party, but calling it something like The King of Wakanda or something actually cool would solve that.
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[QUOTE=Dayle88;157955]I don't think there would be confusion if Marvel released a film titled Black Panther with the party, but calling it something like The King of Wakanda or something actually cool would solve that.[/QUOTE]
How about Black Panther: The King of Wakanda? I think that'd be a cool name for a film.
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What do you guys think of this?
[IMG]http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/130/244/i02/MH_SCREEN_Wakanda_052014_034.jpg?1401477197[/IMG]
[url]http://www.newsarama.com/21271-man-ape-amazon-fury-red-and-yellow-lanterns-comic-book-mmo-updates.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;157994]Meh its Shuri[/QUOTE]
I'm glad whenever Shuri gets some burn. Also I think that's her first appearance outside of the comics.
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[QUOTE=Dayle88;157955]I don't think there would be confusion if Marvel released a film titled Black Panther with the party, but calling it something like The King of Wakanda or something actually cool would solve that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Ossie;157968]How about Black Panther: The King of Wakanda? I think that'd be a cool name for a film.[/QUOTE]
"Marvel's The Avengers"
"Marvel's Black Panther"
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Anyone that would draw comparisons between Black Panther and the Black Panther and see it as a negative likely wouldn't go see the movie no matter what title it has.
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The Black Panther is fine. The people that are going to complain will do it regardless.
And they'll say all the dumb crap trolls have said for years. Just watch Fox will talk about how the movie is anti-white, how in one comic panther withheld the cure for cancer, blah, blah, blah.
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Dollar Dollar Bill Yaw'll...
[url]http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2014/06/forget-tony-starks-fortune-black-panther-is-richest-superhero/[/url]
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The Black Panther itself is a good enough name for the movie title it's what he does in the movie that makes him what he is!
He has to be a warrior king and not just a vigilante freed up by his queen sister to play super hero with the other Avengers or the Bruce Wayne comparisons will double up!
Necropolis is literally the bat cave so it's a bad idea for the movie and wreaks of Catwoman in concept so if it does not want a Razzy award it should steer clear of that angle!
In fact The Black Panther: King of The Dead is a title best left for a Van Damme or Steven Seagal straight to video movie if you don't want to be taken seriously at the box office!
The worst case scenario for this movie is not to cross the T's and dot the I's properly and thus lay an egg that dies a slow death at the box office!
You don't want one of these moments the day after all the smoke clears...
[video=youtube_share;U-7s_yeQuDg]http://youtu.be/U-7s_yeQuDg[/video]
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[QUOTE=Kasper Cole;158185]I'm glad whenever Shuri gets some burn. Also I think that's her first appearance outside of the comics.[/QUOTE]
She appeared in the BP motion comic remember lol
voiced by the beautiful Keri Washington
Man-Ape y'all
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The comparisons with Batman are going to be unfairly used against a Black Panther film if one is released. They'd have to really push the fact that he is a king. It's not only right that he should be in his film but it will easily separate him from uneducated comparisons.
(General public could do with being told that the Batman they know today has only been around since the 80's.)
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Man-Ape???
A public relations disaster just waiting to happen!
And have they figured how to reload a spear in the modern era where most armies use automatic weaponry and other high repetition projectile fire arms?
I think this is good because the backlash itself will have a Donald Sterling type ending finally forcing the issue of getting rid of the black man in an ape suit along with the african tribes in butt naked gear!
The only way to ensure this is to keep pushing this character until it offends enough people that the inevitable happens thus closing the door forever on this questionable concept!
Press conference, Burbank.
Mickey Mouse: "On behalf of Disney and Marvel we would like to extend our apologies to those who were offended by the depiction of a black guy in an ape suit. Our intent was just good fun and not to offend anyone so we deeply regret any negativity caused by his appearance in comics, cartoons and the movie that we sucked all the air out of when we could have just as easily used Klaw or Killmonger and made life much easier on ourselves. Again we reach out to all the communities that took offense to this racial stereotype and would like all to know that we at Disney do not condone nor support the making fun of ethnic races, cultures or creeds."
Meanwhile at ESPN...
Steven A. Smith: "Let me be clear... LE-BRON James has spoken up and says there is no place for Man-Ape at Disney and so eloquently expressed his views on the matter so I think Mickey Mouse should be voted out of Disney for this debacle that could and should have been handled better!"
Skip Bayless: "I agree with you Steven A. even though Disney owns ESPN and signs our checks there is no place for even the slightest hint of racism or mockery of other races... Let's let Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder weigh in on this controversy!"
Dan Snyder: "I don't see anything wrong or offensive having a black guy in an ape suit... It's all good kiddie fun in my point of view!'
Keep playing around with your revenue I mean it's only money after all...
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/07/emvogueems-lebron-james-k_n_111263.html[/url]
Point Man: "STOP THE RANGE ROVER SIR!!!"
Carry on...
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;159982]Man-Ape???
A public relations disaster just waiting to happen!
And have they figured how to reload a spear in the modern era where most armies use automatic weaponry and other high repetition projectile fire arms?
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Its comics man. Why don't all the heroes use automatic weapons?
Because... comics... that is why. Comics is the place where a spear is just a mighty as an automatic gun.
And long live M'Baku!