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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;2834835]ok thanks for the clarification. I didn't know their back story. it seemed really flirty. so they never expressed any interest in each other in priest's run?[/QUOTE]
Originally she was recruited to be a replacement Dora when Nakia went crazy. She had a semi-relationship with a guy named Vibraxus(sp) who is also in the photo. Then she found out she was heir to the White Gorilla Cult(M'Bakus' cousin). He wanted her to become Queen of the cult so they would have a platform to take over Wakanda. It ended with her being severely injured, but the story changed to the Kasper arc, so we never really had full resolution.
Also grew up in New York or Chicago. Cant remember which
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Why exactly does QDJ have another name now like what's the point of that?
Coates is also making hard as hell to not remember all these places with these names.
Who sent that fan letter lol. It's like it came from my head
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;2834863]Why exactly does QDJ have another name now like what's the point of that?
Coates is also making hard as hell to not remember all these places with these names.[/QUOTE]
Wakandan name = Ce'Athauna Asira Davin
American cover name = Chante Giovanni Brown
QTF on Coates comment. Going to need a glossary at the end of each issue. lol
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[QUOTE=Cville;2834870]Wakandan name = Ce'Athauna Asira Davin
American cover name = Chante Giovanni Brown[/quote]
I can't remember, what did he call her during Priest's run?
[quote]QTF on Coates comment. Going to need a glossary at the end of each issue. lol[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised they don't have the pictures of the gods in the back like they have the map. At this point, it's just as helpful.
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[QUOTE=Mike_Murdock;2835028]I can't remember, what did he call her during Priest's run?
I'm surprised they don't have the pictures of the gods in the back like they have the map. At this point, it's just as helpful.[/QUOTE]
When she is first introduced the cop knew her and called her Chante. Queen Divine was used the rest of the way except when she was told the truth of her origin I believe.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2833748]Lol. The moment a critic throws around those terms, you should realize he isn't talking about comics anymore.
Ignore the fact that Wakanda and Tchalla showing interest and working behind the scenes to help those in need is already pre established Canon.[/QUOTE]
Black Panther even fought the KKK! If that story came out now some fans heads would be exploding. Probably saying that Marvel should give equal time to the Klan's side.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2835067]Black Panther even fought the KKK! If that story came out now some fans heads would be exploding. Probably saying that Marvel should give equal time to the Klan's side.[/QUOTE]
Some fans would complain that the Klan would have been portrayed as racist homophobes.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;2834814]
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I don't think he will mess up by putting them back together, but this issue does make me wonder if Tchalla is actually still interested in Ororo. there seem to be some subtle flirting and more than I think Ororo would have prefered.[/QUOTE]
You misunderstood my post I think..
Putting Ororo and T'Challa back together isn't the mistake. I'm very very VERY much pro BP/Storm to the point where the annulment and the absolute dispicable and disrespectful way it was handled turned me off permanently from having anything to do with X-Men comic stories (not that I was the hugest X-fan to begin with but I mostly read Storm or Gambit centric stories when provided)
They are my favorite all time superhero couple.
So Coates having them renter a romantic relationship, even if it's not a marriage but just dating exclusively to start out is exciting to me. It actually goes a certain distance with repairing my damaged opinion of him and his current run.
BUT
I'm in the "Fool me once" camp meaning that I cannot simply give Coates the benefit of the doubt. I did that all throughout the first twelve issues and was rewarded with Rape Camps, a T'Challa who whined incessently about not wanting to be King, and "No One Man"....
That's NOT the man I want writing a relationship that means so much to me as a black man who more than anything desires to read positive black male-female relationships and couplings. So when I say he'd better not mess it up I mean that whole heartedly. Now Coates seems to have an affinity for writing strong black women. Which is a plus, but he does so at the expense of showcasing the black MEN around them as inept buffoons who only seem to view women as property to "serve them in all ways". I DONT want to read about Storm endlessly emasculating T'Challa for 10 issues or T'Challa being a brute who won't listen to her counsel. The first issue of this new season didn't have ANY such nonsense, which gives me hope, but I'm not letting Coates lure me into a false sense of security....
Also I have no idea what you are talking about with "subtle flirting" and "more than ororo would have preferred" when I'm pretty sure the end of #13 and beginning of #14 highly suggest that they've been back to knocking the boots.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2835067]Black Panther even fought the KKK! If that story came out now some fans heads would be exploding. Probably saying that Marvel should give equal time to the Klan's side.[/QUOTE]
It'sthe nature of the beast.
Some can't deal with the fact that even though this is an.African character, he is used to cater to a African American audience. There are bits and pieces of Africa in this character due to research to make him more unique and authentic, but this is a book that has an American audience in mind and that's always been the case.
It's why I was dismayed that the writer of the letter said not Coates not to write him with an American mindset. The character has always been written in an American mindset.
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[QUOTE=XPac;2834679]When did Hudlin and Hickman use them? I thought Hudlin mostly used the Ebony Blade while Hickman used the energy daggers and the glowing purple boxing glove things.[/QUOTE]
[B] Hudlin had Tchalla use the claws in WiTBP, and the little green men arc.
Hickmans was more seeing the aftermath. Like with black dwarf he had claw marks on him, when he fought the Rider he used his claws as well, and when they were fighting Caps Shield Avengers he used his claws.
They have survived over the years Nd especially with the MCU having them they need to stay. Frankly they are one of his standard gear that could use a few more cool feats[/B]
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;2835320]It'sthe nature of the beast.
Some can't deal with the fact that even though this is an.African character, he is used to cater to a African American audience. There are bits and pieces of Africa in this character due to research to make him more unique and authentic, but this is a book that has an American audience in mind and that's always been the case.
[U]It's why I was dismayed that the writer of the letter said not Coates not to write him with an American mindset. The character has always been written in an American mindset[/U].[/QUOTE]
[B]What he said made sense though. Priest and Hudlin out a very unique African feel to Black Panther. They had Their traditions and culture that was unique and clearly Different from a Western view. Priest really put it into perspective by using Ross to have certain stereotypes and viewpoints that America may have for Africa and what they would expect. Hudlin in WiTBP also used Ross to explain certain views America would foolishly have.
The Black Panther mythos will have some form of American mindset no matter what unless an African writer with a vast knowledge of African lore and history came in and Really dove deep into it. But Priest and Hudlin (as well as other Gillis, and McGregor) they made the connection, it will always be an American comic but that in no way means that it cannot stay unique and have major African influences. Honestly I have a feeling that the BP Solo movie is gonna set the tone for how the mythos from the comic side should be. [/B]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;2835365][B]What he said made sense though. Priest and Hudlin out a very unique African feel to Black Panther. They had Their traditions and culture that was unique and clearly Different from a Western view. Priest really put it into perspective by using Ross to have certain stereotypes and viewpoints that America may have for Africa and what they would expect. Hudlin in WiTBP also used Ross to explain certain views America would foolishly have.
The Black Panther mythos will have some form of American mindset no matter what unless an African writer with a vast knowledge of African lore and history came in and Really dove deep into it. But Priest and Hudlin (as well as other Gillis, and McGregor) they made the connection, it will always be an American comic but that in no way means that it cannot stay unique and have major African influences. Honestly I have a feeling that the BP Solo movie is gonna set the tone for how the mythos from the comic side should be. [/B][/QUOTE]
Of course, the movie will set the tone. Once a writer sees that character brought to life, you TChadwick everywhere.
Coates book doesn't read like most comics. His scenes with Shuri and so forth reek of a non American aesthetic. We haven't truly seen the change in rule yet. And honestly, the words of Faustus makes me think that won't be what most expect.
As someone who hates the term Western anything, I was happy to read Coates response to democracy being a White only idea or philosophy.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;2834863]Why exactly does QDJ have another name now like what's the point of that?
Coates is also making hard as hell to not remember all these places with these names.
Who sent that fan letter lol. It's like it came from my head[/QUOTE]
Like most self important individuals, Coates feels that he needs to reinvent the wheel rather than bringing something genuinely creative into the mix.
His fake "woke" mindstate permeates everything he does as regards the BP book.
The day he leaves the mythos will be one I'll personally celebrate with much enthusiasm.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;2835067]Black Panther even fought the KKK! If that story came out now some fans heads would be exploding. Probably saying that Marvel should give equal time to the Klan's side.[/QUOTE]
In fairness, Don McGregor got removed from the book because of the controversy, so things are better than it was then.