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[QUOTE=Rumble;3143611][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/19WaQqD.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/w8iX4VG.jpg[/IMG]
Ahhh, young love :-)[/QUOTE]
[B]Can't have that now! Can't seem like she is genuinely enjoying herself and enjoying him. On an organic and non forced manner[/B]
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;3143484]!!!!!!!!!!!
when did this happen? LOL.. :) got scans?
[B]I've always felt that a Black Panther/Wonder Woman crossover mini would be great, and to include a romance with TChalla and Diana... that would be cool.[/B].[/QUOTE]
Diana been bout that swirl life. T'Challa even hooked her up with a gift basket as a parting gift, he the original Derek Jeter :p.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/FFSEJDq.jpg[/IMG]
Shout out to Beware of Geek for the scan upon request!
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This made me smile. Winston Duke talks about finding out he got the role of M'Baku :)
[quote]In his three-year professional acting career, actor Winston Duke has yet to appear on the silver screen in a major production. Come February, that’s all going to change when the Tobagonian native appears in Marvel Studios’ Black Panther. And no way you look at it, Duke is still as humble as can be while talking about his big break.
Originally thinking he was passed over for the part he auditioned for — the Wakandan villain M’Baku — Duke told People Magazine it was quite the emotional experience finding out he got the role.
“My agents love pranking me,” Duke recalled. “So they called and were like, ‘You really need to sit down for this. We’ve got some bad news.’”
No bad news was to be had, however. Duke was told he got the part and he’d be a member of one of the most impressive casts Marvel Studios has ever put together.
“I went quiet, just dead quiet on the phone,” he said. “And I started sobbing because it meant so much.”
Once he found out, it was off to the races as the Yale graduate tried learning as much about his character as possible.
“I was a big comic, cartoon, animation nerd,” Duke recalled of his youth. “So I was really familiar with it, but not as much with Black Panther. The neighborhood comic guy where I live in Los Angeles, he pulled every single issue of comic that my character ever appeared in. He found me the first appearance of my character and recommended different iterations of the comic that I look into. So the entire culture of this comic book world has been super supportive since day one.”
And believe it or not — Duke isn’t the only Yale grad on the cast. He’s joined by the Oscar-winning Lupita Nyong’o. Coincidentally enough, Nyong’o — who plays Nakia, a member of T’Challa’s all-female security force called the Dora Milaje — and Duke saw The Avengers together when it was first released.
“We saw the first Avengers movie together and had wondered if we’d ever get to a be in a movie like that — such a big budget, crazy vehicle with special effects and tons of funny, cool people that you admire,” Duke recalls. “And we were just like ‘Yeah, I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen.’ And then for this to be my first movie, her first Marvel film, we were like ‘Can you believe that happened? Do you remember Avengers in New Haven, Connecticut?'”[/quote]
[url]http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/10/05/winston-duke-black-panther-role/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3143974][B]Can't have that now! Can't seem like she is genuinely enjoying herself and enjoying him. On an organic and non forced manner[/B][/QUOTE]
Lol they killed that black man as soon as the writer left. Jeeez Louiz!
They couldn't wait!
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;3144003]This made me smile. Winston Duke talks about finding out he got the role of M'Baku :)[/QUOTE]
As much as I was HOPING M'Baku would be in the movie, to be honest a small part of me still is surprised that he is. Glad marvel looked past the monkey suit and saw him for the valuable piece of the mythos that he is.
And it's always nice when a character is actually excited about the role.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;3143946]ugh... gross.
no thanks[/QUOTE]
Seriously? What is it that deeply offends you about this?
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[QUOTE=charliehustle415;3143748]Also in Grant Morrison's Wonder Woman Earth One, Steve Trevor is black and Diana grabs his package to make sure he's a man.[/QUOTE]
That one I did read and as much as I like Grant, I feel he dropped the ball on with that.
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[QUOTE=Hypestyle;3143484]!!!!!!!!!!!
when did this happen? LOL.. :) got scans?
I've always felt that a Black Panther/Wonder Woman crossover mini would be great, and to include a romance with TChalla and Diana... that would be cool..[/QUOTE]
Diana and T'Challa aren't going to happen, for obvious reasons. But if one considers Carol Dianas marvel counter part maybe that can happen down the line. Probably not anytime soon though.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3144128]Diana and T'Challa aren't going to happen, for obvious reasons. But if one considers Carol Dianas marvel counter part maybe that can happen down the line. Probably not anytime soon though.[/QUOTE]
[B]Why couldn't it happen in a cross over one shot? No reason it couldn't at all[/B]
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3144006]Lol they killed that black man as soon as the writer left. Jeeez Louiz!
They couldn't wait![/QUOTE]
[B] Probably salivating at the mouth while writing it too[/B]
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Jimenez said he routinely got hate mail about letting a filthy N-word put his paws on Wonder Woman while writing the book. That made what happened after he left even more sickening. Like the company wanted to assure racists "Don't worry. It's cool. We're not gonna have any darkies touching our paragon of beauty ever again."
[url]https://www.newsarama.com/36749-nycc-17-marvel-press-panel.html[/url]
Book panel with the writer of the BP novel and the writer of the recent Miles Morales novel.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3144333][B]Why couldn't it happen in a cross over one shot? No reason it couldn't at all[/B][/QUOTE]
Only reason it wouldn't happen is for the same reasons Trevor Barnes was killed after Diana offered to give him a massage in her house.
Something about that was infuriating to people.
But I'm pretty sure Storm could reenact Monster's Ball with Bruce Wayne and those same people wouldn't mind.
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Damn! Trevor Barnes was clean shaven, well dressed, dreads fresh, no nappy-ness in sight! and [I]still[/I] was called a filthy n-word!
Jimenez might as well have just put him in a tall tee, durag, 3XL bball shorts and called him Jamal.
[QUOTE=Holt;3144347]Jimenez said he routinely got hate mail about letting a filthy N-word put his paws on Wonder Woman while writing the book. That made what happened after he left even more sickening. Like the company wanted to assure racists "Don't worry. It's cool. We're not gonna have any darkies touching our paragon of beauty ever again."
[url]https://www.newsarama.com/36749-nycc-17-marvel-press-panel.html[/url]
Book panel with the writer of the BP novel and the writer of the recent Miles Morales novel.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ed2962;3144118]That one I did read and as much as I like Grant, I feel he dropped the ball on with that.[/QUOTE]
Diana didn't. ....
Ba dum buh
Be here all night:)
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Another variant costume plus funko pop
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLeWxgPUMAAuseM.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Dboi654;3144512]Another variant costume plus funko pop
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLeWxgPUMAAuseM.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[B]That looks sooooo BOSSS[/B]
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[QUOTE=Mr HardKnocks;3143595]The character was Trevor Barnes. WW Fans didn't like him because he was obviously black, his name was apparently too similar to Steve Trevor and the final reason was because people thought he was going to be the man to "deflower" her. After Jimminez left the next writer immediately killed of the character.[/QUOTE]
Ring ring, we have a winner. On top of that, the writer would regularly get threatened for it and the fans would send in hate mail about how a black man defiled their best white woman. The mail the writer got ranged from people calling the character an N word to threatening "Tarring and Feathering."
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3144006]Lol they killed that black man as soon as the writer left. Jeeez Louiz!
They couldn't wait![/QUOTE]
Cheers for posting the scans for me, you always come through, Rumble.
It's EERILY similar to what happened to Carol and Rhodey.
I doubt we're going to see a major white female character get a black love interest that they actually take time to develop happening in DC anytime soon. We're in the Geoff Johns era and that guy literally takes pride in the fact that people praise him for removing black characters from the narrative. You'd think a guy from Detroit would have more empathy for black folks but here we are.
Can't say it isn't entertaining to watch grown men freak out at Bendis everytime Miles even looks at a white girl.
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;3142447]I'm fortunate enough to have a very good LCS owner. He's not a comic fan at all, he's about making money and he will order it if you ask. And he has a good staff as well.[/QUOTE]
I find that the shop that is not ran by a fanboy is usually the best one.
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3144333][B]Why couldn't it happen in a cross over one shot? No reason it couldn't at all[/B][/QUOTE]
The problem marvel and dc don't do cross overs anymore. Plenty of writers overtime have wanted to do one... even Bendis at the height of his popularity couldn't get one approved. With Disney buying marvel it's no longer marvel and DC doing a book together, its Warner Bros and Disney. It's something that would likely require a room full of lawyers to hammer out.
That said, I hope we do somehow get more of those. I was always a sucker for them, even though 90% of them sucked. It's still cool seeing marvel and dc characters interact.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;3144877]I find that the shop that is not ran by a fanboy is usually the best one.[/QUOTE]
I actually prefer the shops run by fan boys, because they tend to be more willing to let you sit there and read the comics before buying them (in my experience at least).
Often (though not always) the non-fan boy ones are more against Byrne stealing.
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[QUOTE=phumgano;3144846]Cheers for posting the scans for me, you always come through, Rumble.
It's EERILY similar to what happened to Carol and Rhodey.
I doubt we're going to see a major white female character get a black love interest that they actually take time to develop happening in DC anytime soon. We're in the Geoff Johns era and that guy literally takes pride in the fact that people praise him for removing black characters from the narrative. You'd think a guy from Detroit would have more empathy for black folks but here we are.
Can't say it isn't entertaining to watch grown men freak out at Bendis everytime Miles even looks at a white girl.[/QUOTE]
It's too bad for them, because interacial couples are becoming pretty common in comics these days. It's almost fair to say it's more common than two minority characters of the same ethnicity dating.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3144885]The problem marvel and dc don't do cross overs anymore. Plenty of writers overtime have wanted to do one... even Bendis at the height of his popularity couldn't get one approved. With Disney buying marvel it's no longer marvel and DC doing a book together, its Warner Bros and Disney. [B]It's something that would likely require a room full of lawyers to hammer out.[/B]
That said, I hope we do somehow get more of those. I was always a sucker for them, even though 90% of them sucked. It's still cool seeing marvel and dc characters interact.[/QUOTE]
Would be any harder than DC & Saban?
DC & Archie?
IDW & Marvel?
It would probably be an issue of who gets used. We know DC will toss out the same tired folks who many are tired of seeing in everything. Marvel would toss out the standard favorites and the hated POC. LGBT & women or Marvel.
We would be denied Panther saying to Black Wally-"come with me if you want to be a REAL black man." Instead we would get Black Panther being bored to death by Hal.
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[QUOTE=skyvolt2000;3144906]Would be any harder than DC & Saban?
DC & Archie?
IDW & Marvel?
It would probably be an issue of who gets used. We know DC will toss out the same tired folks who many are tired of seeing in everything. Marvel would toss out the standard favorites and the hated POC. LGBT & women or Marvel.
We would be denied Panther saying to Black Wally-"come with me if you want to be a REAL black man." Instead we would get Black Panther being bored to death by Hal.[/QUOTE]
GIven how rare marvel and dc cross overs are, IF they were to do another it probably would be with high profile characters (which doesn't necessarily exclude T'Challa since he's obviously got a movie coming out).
Honestly I always thought if they were going to pair up Diana with any hero it would be with Cap, since she's already got history of guys from WW2 named Steve. I would guess if they were going to give T'Challa a DC hook up it would be with Vixen. Not that I'm expecting hook ups out of a cross over, but if we did get a few that's what I'd guess we'd see.
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[QUOTE=phumgano;3144846]Cheers for posting the scans for me, you always come through, Rumble.
It's EERILY similar to what happened to Carol and Rhodey.
[B]I doubt we're going to see a major white female character get a black love interest that they actually take time to develop happening in DC anytime soon.[/B] We're in the Geoff Johns era and that guy literally takes pride in the fact that people praise him for removing black characters from the narrative. You'd think a guy from Detroit would have more empathy for black folks but here we are.
Can't say it isn't entertaining to watch grown men freak out at Bendis everytime Miles even looks at a white girl.[/QUOTE]
Major interracial couple? Ha! We can't get the two major Black characters together without isht going off.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;3144877]I find that the shop that is not ran by a fanboy is usually the best one.[/QUOTE]
He's strictly about making that money. Couldn't tell you much about comics at all except for how much he will sell it to you for. I've been shopping with this guy for about 20 years.
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[QUOTE=XPac;3144890]I actually prefer the shops run by fan boys, because they tend to be more willing to let you sit there and read the comics before buying them (in my experience at least).
Often (though not always) the non-fan boy ones are more against Byrne stealing.[/QUOTE]
I just find fanboys which I am most definitely one, just imitate other stores and their policies. Selling unsold merchandise at a higher price and storing it in unappealing boxes makes no sense.
Especially with the trade market being what it is.
There are lot of modern ideas of presentation that the fanboy store just ignores.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;3144954]I just find fanboys which I am most definitely one, just imitate other stores and their policies. Selling unsold merchandise at a higher price and storing it in unappealing boxes makes no sense.
Especially with the trade market being what it is.
There are lot of modern ideas of presentation that the fanboy store just ignores.[/QUOTE]
I've been fortunate enough to never have dealt with a fanboy owner. At one of the other shops I used to go to before he closed(I miss that shop), we talked more politics than we ever did comics.
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[QUOTE=Holt;3144347]Jimenez said he routinely got hate mail about letting a filthy N-word put his paws on Wonder Woman while writing the book. That made what happened after he left even more sickening. Like the company wanted to assure racists "Don't worry. It's cool. We're not gonna have any darkies touching our paragon of beauty ever again."
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"He's not coming back so, please stop with the bomb threats!":p
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[QUOTE=phumgano;3144846]Cheers for posting the scans for me, you always come through, Rumble.
It's EERILY similar to what happened to Carol and Rhodey.
I doubt we're going to see a major white female character get a black love interest that they actually take time to develop happening in DC anytime soon. We're in the Geoff Johns era and that guy literally takes pride in the fact that people praise him for removing black characters from the narrative. You'd think a guy from Detroit would have more empathy for black folks but here we are.
Can't say it isn't entertaining to watch grown men freak out at Bendis everytime Miles even looks at a white girl.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say it's the same as Carol and Rhodey, seeing as there was no controversy over that couple. Although, you didn't get to see much of them dating when he was alive either. I think with War Machine it was just a we-need-a cheap-shock-death-for-our-ill-thought-out-event.
As far major DC Comics BM/WF couples we did have Power Girl with Mr Terrific ( then she moved on to Val-Zod). There was Jon Stewart and Hawkgirl on the JL cartoon show ( I don't think the other alien women he's dated in the comics count). There's got to be somebody else, but that's all I can think of now off the top of my head...
Johns has actually created a number of minority characters, but he's mostly going to push his creations or the established pet characters. He's not going to get paid if Jon Stewart makes into the next GL movie, but if Simon Baz does...cha-ching.
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[QUOTE=phumgano;3144846]Cheers for posting the scans for me, you always come through, Rumble.
It's EERILY similar to what happened to Carol and Rhodey.
I doubt we're going to see a major white female character get a black love interest that they actually take time to develop happening in DC anytime soon. We're in the Geoff Johns era and that guy literally takes pride in the fact that people praise him for removing black characters from the narrative. You'd think a guy from Detroit would have more empathy for black folks but here we are.
Can't say it isn't entertaining to watch grown men freak out at Bendis everytime Miles even looks at a white girl.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the kind words bro.
You made a valid point that completely escaped me:
Carol = Wonder Woman
Rhodey = Trevor Barnes
What's funny is that here was a white woman (i think) charged with reinvigorating a white female character and she chose out of her own creative discretion and logic to use a known black male character with comparable interests as her white female character, as the love interest...
...and Marvel tells her that she gotta keep Carol in space away from all that lol, and then the second the author steps away from the title they set that black man up to get killed using the "excuse" that his death was pertinent for emotional impact... but then turn around and kill off Bruce Banner/Hulk to completely overshadow the significance of that black man having the "big" death .. then creating "Riri" as a peace offering, which they flat out admitted was intentionally set in place because they knew the backlash that was coming from killing Rhodey.
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[QUOTE=ed2962;3145032]I wouldn't say it's the same as Carol and Rhodey, seeing as there was no controversy over that couple. Although, you didn't get to see much of them dating when he was alive either. I think with War Machine it was just a we-need-a cheap-shock-death-for-our-ill-thought-out-event.
[B]As far major DC Comics BM/WF couples we did have Power Girl with Mr Terrific ( then she moved on to Val-Zod). There was Jon Stewart and Hawkgirl on the JL cartoon show ( I don't think the other alien women he's dated in the comics count). There's got to be somebody else, but that's all I can think of now off the top of my head...
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Johns has actually created a number of minority characters, but he's mostly going to push his creations or the established pet characters. He's not going to get paid if Jon Stewart makes into the next GL movie, but if Simon Baz does...cha-ching.[/QUOTE]
Maaan, I'm glad you mentioned this because i was [B]just[/B] about to talk about Mr. Terrific [I]and[/I] Power Girl [I]and[/I] Val Zod, and the bullshit that happened to those characters as a result of being paired with her.
Mr. Terrific came out the gate of the new 52 with a new solo book that was immediately sabotaged with shitty art (early sketch work showed it was supposed to have great art but that got scrapped) and a garbage story. But the most note worthy addition was that Power Girl was his love interest. But soooooon as that solo series crashed and burned, Mr. Terrific for all intents and purposes was banned from the DC universe for like the next 1-2 years, and Karen was re-purposed into that Huntress team-up book. Damn near the next time we saw Terrific in comics was during that stupid Batman Beyond esleworld story or, as far as the "real" Michael Holt,not until the Earth 2 World's End countdown book. At which point it was like him and PG never knew each other. She had moved on to the other black guy, but more on him later.
Then the writer of Earth 2 was implying that Terrific and Earth 2 Wonder Woman (Fury?) were getting close... but soooon as he got off the book, the next writer started the Earth 2 team book in which Terrific, despite being on the team and surviving to the new planet, was magically off the roster and NEVER friggin heard from again!
Only reason I haven't been more vocal in my disgust for their treatment of Michael Holt is due to my complete and utter disgust of their treatment of John Stewart, but more on that another time.
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Val Zod... lol :(
He went from having that Miles Morales potential to being an after thought wallpaper shell of a superhero whose guts Power Girl despised b/c of some thrown in nonsensical bs about how he was the cause of some villain doing something that was clearly out of his knowledge (but was thrown in by the writer as a means to have Karen act irrational and break up the two). Leaving him as just a simp who literally did nothing but carve mountain monuments of Karen while the writer tried to repurpose Karen into being a new love interest for Flash. Now Val is a forgotten vagabond in the comic book graveyard and Michael is only just now in 2017 having a consistent appearance in comics once again with The Terrifics.
Karen has that Kardashian Curse. Stay safe Brehs :eek:
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And of course none of this would even matter if they simply created or elevated more black girls, or women of color.
But we saw what happened with Storm and Black Panther.
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3145100]And of course none of this would even matter if they simply created or elevated more black girls, or women of color.
But we saw what happened with Storm and Black Panther.[/QUOTE]
[B]It would be nice for a black super couple to flourish but it's been spoiled. We can only hope for queen Nakia Nyong'o[/B]
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3145100]And of course none of this would even matter if they simply created or elevated more black girls, or women of color.
But we saw what happened with Storm and Black Panther.[/QUOTE]
This we need more black woman / black men couples
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[QUOTE=Ezyo1000;3145375][B]It would be nice for a black super couple to flourish but it's been spoiled. We can only hope for queen Nakia Nyong'o[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3145504]This we need more black woman / black men couples[/QUOTE]
I feel two ways about it.
1. If a Jiminez or a Kelly Sue DeConnick wants to write a non-black female character as a lead and pair said character with a black male love interest for whatever willy nilly reason, then I don't feel that black male should be banished, emasculated or murdered immediately following the writer's departure on some Emmet Till lynch mob. Can't quite put my finger on it but that just feels a bit racist-ish.
2.I'ma let Carol finish, but Monica Rambeau would've been a better Captain Marvel in the MCU than Danvers, Mar-vell Genis-vell, Phyla-vell, and any other vell, ever.
And would've set up a GOAT power couple with T'Chadwick or god forbid they elevate another black character that isn't some white character's side kick or 3rd best black friend!
Speaking of which, Idris just said he don't want to be punk ass Heimdall no more and wants to be a superhero. Well I say people like hearing him talk, and Adam Brasheer likes to talk a lot, so world's finest/blackest: T'Chadwick and Idris in 2020! If I ruled the world.
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Storm may be getting another solo. If not, why not Storm and Black Panther ongoing series. :)
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[QUOTE=Rumble;3145095]Val Zod... lol :(
He went from having that Miles Morales potential to being an after thought wallpaper shell of a superhero whose guts Power Girl despised b/c of some thrown in nonsensical bs about how he was the cause of some villain doing something that was clearly out of his knowledge (but was thrown in by the writer as a means to have Karen act irrational and break up the two). Leaving him as just a simp who literally did nothing but carve mountain monuments of Karen while the writer tried to repurpose Karen into being a new love interest for Flash. Now Val is a forgotten vagabond in the comic book graveyard and Michael is only just now in 2017 having a consistent appearance in comics once again with The Terrifics.
Karen has that Kardashian Curse. Stay safe Brehs :eek:[/QUOTE]
Another one is Luke Fox aka Batwing and Barbara Gordon. They were put together as couple in the final issues of her new 52 run but when Rebirth happened the relationship was written off. Batgirl then got with a new guy, an Asian, and Batwing was put into Dectetive Comics Rebirth with a different personality from what was originally presented. In his first appearance he was an egotistical player who was a hero for "thrills" and Batwoman didn't like him. Batman fans didn't like the character saying he's there for just diversity.
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And yet, some people call you paranoid when you point out the clear evidence of a concerted pushback against clearly heterosexual black males engaged in healthy romantic relationships with black women or indeed, any women within mainstream comicbooks.