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[QUOTE=goku200;3616063]Your statement makes no sense. Martin Luther King was praised and revered because he let people walk all over him while Malcolm X didn't. Both were killed because they are fighting bad people.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, the non-violent rhetoric was slowly and surely losing its luster (very reminiscent of the black church). That's part of the reason Stokely Carmichael came to prominence, isn't it?
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Something that needs established to end the circular argument:
What exactly was killmonger right about?
He said a lot. #killmongerwasright doesnt eork because its too all encompassing. That can mean anything from "he was right to choke a gardener" to "he was right to arm hong kong blacks (err?)"
So, what exactly was he "right" about and how did it justify all that bad? #killmongerwasright means the good has to beat the bad.
And... go!
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[QUOTE=The Cool Thatguy;3616047][B]Because he felt that, didn't make it so.[/B]
As T'Chaka warned him, T'Challa is a good man, and that's hard to reconcile with being the leader of a country.
We saw this best with Killmonger. T'Challa knew the man was working with Klaw, knew that his father was disgraced (likely disqualifying him from the challenge), and could have dealt with him by revealing any of that.
But instead he allowed Killmonger to challenge him in combat.[/QUOTE]
So the title character whose reaction to the news tells us it's wrong and the main villains character beats/motivations and overwhelming fan reaction tells us it FEELS wrong, but that's not right?
[QUOTE=ed2962;3616049]It's implied that Killmonger Sr at least had a plan to challenge the oppressors. Erik joined the oppressors.[/QUOTE]
So in other words, both father and son had bold and endearing intentions that got muddied by their highly questionable means of achieving said goal? Hmmm...
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3616093]Something that needs established to end the circular argument:
What exactly was killmonger right about?
He said a lot. #killmongerwasright doesnt eork because its too all encompassing. That can mean anything from "he was right to choke a gardener" to "he was right to arm hong kong blacks (err?)"
So, what exactly was he "right" about and how did it justify all that bad? #killmongerwasright means the good has to beat the bad.
And... go![/QUOTE]
Lolololol I'm game. He was right in his conversation in the art gallery. He was right in his conversation at the border. He was right in his conversation in the throne room. And he was right in his final scene.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3615022]Agreed. But Sterling K. Brown did some powerful acting. Lol[/QUOTE]
Very Tru.. they should bring him back as S'Yan ( make them twins) in the sequel.. ( salt or full Grey his hair or go with Grey locs)
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[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3616160]Very Tru.. they should bring him back as S'Yan ( make them twins) in the sequel.. ( salt or full Grey his hair or go with Grey locs)[/QUOTE]
That is a solid idea. We need send that one up chain.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3616165]That is a solid idea. We need send that one up chain.[/QUOTE]
"Zuri" ( who really was Mendinao) was wasted imo.. Is like she movie S'Yan combine elements of both characters..
He's T'Chaka & Njbo young brother/younger twin
Gery locs & facial hair
Drinks tea
Aggressively serious about protecting Wakanda .
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[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3616184]"Zuri" ( who really was Mendinao) was wasted imo.. Is like she movie S'Yan combine elements of both characters..
He's T'Chaka & Njbo young brother/younger twin
Gery locs & facial hair
Drinks tea
Aggressively serious about protecting Wakanda .[/QUOTE]
So you would have preferred the Priest version of Zuri?
I would have like the Hudlin version of W'kabi
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;3615873]The story thus far...
Prince N'jobo took a Wardog assignment at a local Car Wash where he crossed paths with Reverend Richard Pryor and got ambushed and 'Ethered' by the Pointer Sisters... :cool:
[video=youtube;jQyv_1Qoqco]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyv_1Qoqco[/video][/QUOTE]
Lol. ..
[QUOTE=goku200;3615645]Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey are non violent with people that are non violent with their people. Colonizers are violent.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=goku200;3616063]Your statement makes no sense. Martin Luther King was praised and revered because he let people walk all over him while Malcolm X didn't. Both were killed because they are fighting bad people.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=BBeeryan;3616085]Not to mention, the non-violent rhetoric was slowly and surely losing its luster (very reminiscent of the black church). That's part of the reason Stokely Carmichael came to prominence, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
Very true ...
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[QUOTE=Cville;3616193]So you would have preferred the Priest version of Zuri?
I would have like the Hudlin version of W'kabi[/QUOTE]
[B] Hopefully W'kabi gets a chance to redeem himself[/B]
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[QUOTE=MindofShadow;3616093]Something that needs established to end the circular argument:
What exactly was killmonger right about?
He said a lot. #killmongerwasright doesnt eork because its too all encompassing. That can mean anything from "he was right to choke a gardener" to "he was right to arm hong kong blacks (err?)"
So, what exactly was he "right" about and how did it justify all that bad? #killmongerwasright means the good has to beat the bad.
And... go![/QUOTE]
Erik wanted his people armed against EVERYONE who has oppressed them.
He was right about people being armed but he was WRONG in what they need to be armed with. All he sent out was weapons.
He ws going to use force and Panther wasn't about that. Because going in with guns blazing gets you beat against certain folks.
Welfare.
Charter Schools
State tests and schools being held hostage by that.
text books
WHOSE books and music you have access to in stores.
Pushing black males to be jocks and rappers
Certain food not available in the hood
Not a gun needed. I will not fear you if I can keep you dumb and stupid.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3616193]So you would have preferred the Priest version of Zuri?
I would have like the Hudlin version of W'kabi[/QUOTE]
Yes to both.. I don't hate MCU W'Kabi like I do MCU notZuri but most definitely RH W'Kabi is my favorite version of the character ( maybe MCU W"kabi will grow into simlar character)..
That character just wasn't Zuri at all in imo ( I Kno different universe & etc) but don't see point of changing 97% about a character & making them 90 % another less known character from the same myths.. very werid choice imo..
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[QUOTE=4sake Baned;3616205]Yes to both.. I don't hate MCU W'Kabi like I do MCU notZuri but most definitely RH W'Kabi is my favorite version of the character ( maybe MCU W"kabi will grow into simlar character)..
That character just wasn't Zuri at all in imo ( I Kno different universe & etc) but don't see point of changing 97% about a character & making them 90 % another less known character from the same myths.. very werid choice imo..[/QUOTE]
If you like Hudlins' W'kabi, check out Jesse Holland's novelized version of the first arc. Characters are able to go more in depth in that format.
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KM ( my fellow Erik) was both Right & Wrong simple as that.. N'Jobu was also both Right & Wrong simple as that.. N'Jobu mishandling of the situation- (the right thing) arming revolutionaries by stealing/lying & working with trash (Klaw) the wrong thing which lead to alot more wrong.
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[QUOTE=Cville;3616222]If you like Hudlins' W'kabi, check out Jesse Holland's novelized version of the first arc. Characters are able to go more in depth in that format.[/QUOTE]
Thanks my brother I will do that.. could u link me?