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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;90468]I must be really mentally tired at the moment because I'm trying to understand what you're saying as regards T'Challa's portrayal in [B]Who Is The Black Panther[/B].
Are you sayng that Hudlin stripped away the mystique surrounding the BP character during his run? :confused:[/QUOTE]
Based on Hudlin's portrayal of the BP was Ubermensch among Ubermensches. Even without the Heart Shaped Herb. With the PG's blessing he became even more. So even without Wakanda he would be the same person he is. He is just a man. No I'm not saying that Hudlin stripped anything away. The original question was...
[B]And for those who question the 10,000 years of Wakandan history and it's importance to T'Challa's history let me pose a question...
Would there be a T'Challa without Wakanda?
A simple yes or no response will suffice.[/B]
I answered yes.
Then I got.
[B]Please elaborate.[/B]
And my response was that even without Wakanda he would be the same charactor.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;91323][IMG]https://31.media.tumblr.com/4b96d6499f0bbb4931b6959a982ca4c1/tumblr_n5cki91Eif1tn3h9ho1_500.jpg[/IMG]
I love this look[/QUOTE]
Whoa! That looks badass. That should be a statue or action figure.
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if this has been posted already…. then i must apologize
[QUOTE][url]http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/05/16/some-character-and-costume-details-for-the-avengers-age-of-ultron/[/url]
[url]http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-spoilery-scoop-tidbits-on-avengers-2-ultron-costumes-more[/url]
JoBlo preface their report with some SPOILER WARNINGS so I’ll go ahead and do the same, though I agree with their assessment that there’s nothing in here that will really “spoil” the experience of watching The Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Anyway, those guys have got their hands on some character-specific details about the film. And there’s also some news on what the Avengers will be wearing.
Let’s start with Ultron himself. JB say there will be three versions of Ultron throughout the film, with James Spader doing mo-cap to play at least one version. His purpose in the film is getting his hands on more Vibranium so he can keep upgrading himself. This of course leads to speculation that we’ll be seeing some tease of Black Panther since Vibranium is from Wakanda in the comics (and they did some South Africa filming).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FriendRoss;91775]if this has been posted already…. then i must apologize[/QUOTE]
I hope it pans out like that. I'm not going to be pessimistic about it, just a wait and see approach.
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it makes sense to have vibranium in there… it HAS TO BE IN THERE… it makes little sense for adimantium to be in the MCU as its biggest user is not on their label….also you go read enough early vision or ultron panther is all over that piece with quick silver and scarlet witch
clearly ultron will be upgrading himself throughout the movie… thats going to mean precious metals
i can't just shake the feeling a big tease is coming…. as a married man I'm very aware of this pending feeling
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[QUOTE=FriendRoss;91801]it makes sense to have vibranium in there… it HAS TO BE IN THERE… it makes little sense for adimantium to be in the MCU as its biggest user is not on their label….also you go read enough early vision or ultron panther is all over that piece with quick silver and scarlet witch
clearly ultron will be upgrading himself throughout the movie… thats going to mean precious metals
i can't just shake the feeling a big tease is coming…. as a married man I'm very aware of this pending feeling[/QUOTE]
Lol. Married men either have a sense of impending doom or ultimate joy. Very little in between.
It does make sense for it to work out the way you say. I could see a tease as well. But will they do it? That's the question.
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[QUOTE=FriendRoss;91801]it makes sense to have vibranium in there… it HAS TO BE IN THERE… it makes little sense for adimantium to be in the MCU as its biggest user is not on their label….also you go read enough early vision or ultron panther is all over that piece with quick silver and scarlet witch
clearly ultron will be upgrading himself throughout the movie… thats going to mean precious metals
i can't just shake the feeling a big tease is coming…. as a married man I'm very aware of this pending feeling[/QUOTE]
They can't use the word adamantium anyway.
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[QUOTE=UltimateTy;91323][IMG]https://31.media.tumblr.com/4b96d6499f0bbb4931b6959a982ca4c1/tumblr_n5cki91Eif1tn3h9ho1_500.jpg[/IMG]
I love this look[/QUOTE]
I may have to make that my avy
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[QUOTE=Marvell2100;91783]I hope it pans out like that. I'm not going to be pessimistic about it, just a wait and see approach.[/QUOTE]
Oh I'm going to be very pessimistic! Vibranium will have been inveted by Tony Starks great granddad and the Marvel Movie-verse will have ulton trying to locate where Tonys grandpops stored the reserves somewhere in Boston.
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[QUOTE=Ekie;92092]Oh I'm going to be very pessimistic! Vibranium will have been inveted by Tony Starks great granddad and the Marvel Movie-verse will have ulton trying to locate where Tonys grandpops stored the reserves somewhere in Boston.[/QUOTE]
Lol, make sure you get credit when they run with this idea.
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[QUOTE=Ekie;92092]Oh I'm going to be very pessimistic! Vibranium will have been inveted by Tony Starks great granddad and the Marvel Movie-verse will have ulton trying to locate where Tonys grandpops stored the reserves somewhere in Boston.[/QUOTE]
By shame of Bast! Don't give them any ideas!
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[QUOTE=The_Panther;88552]To some degree it is done time and time again. Every deconstruction, everytime he loses his crown. He is still what makes him, him. Honorable, a man with integrity, intelligence, skillful,and a force to be reckoned with. All these things and more. Presently he is barely in Wakanda and he is doing things that are Multiverse important. I'm not saying that he is can solely and completely exist without some mention of Wakanda. But presently he is BAST's Champion and that takes precedence over even Wakanda.[B][COLOR="#0000FF"] Look at Blue Marvel he is in the bottom of the ocean and he is relevent (well at least in the fan's eyes).[/COLOR][/B] I would totally like to see BP back to the way I grew up with. But I like the fact that he is important on many levels presently.
Priest said it best (in one of the more recently posted pictures) he is more then a person in a kitty suit.
But thanks to Hudlin this is how I see him.
[video=youtube;7Y_JNBy38yI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y_JNBy38yI[/video][/QUOTE]
Dat "bottom of d ocean" is BM's base located in d marianna trench (deepest point on earth...der r all kinds of [I]'fish'[/I]der dat hv nvr bn documntd & is surrounded with mystery) which is situatd within d dragon's traingle/devil's sea (basically d bermuda traingle of d pacific).
Dat "& he is relevnt" 2 us/SZ/BM fans bcuz he aint a US focusd supahero but a "global protectr" & d fact dat he's a father of 3, widower, Uatu's closest bud, has koo l but unik specific non-altering pwrs(antimatta is supreme), intellect, riddled with moral dilemas & emotional trauma whr neithr his immense supapwrs nor his intellect can help & he isnt perfect but prone 2 mk mistkes(which mks his very human unlyk d d all-perfect-godly-wanna-b's &BM tks full accountability 4 his actions nt blaming sum [I]'alter-ego'[/I]:wink: 4 his problms ) but he still ventures on mks his fascin8g in addtn 2 discvring an entirely nu elemnt as well as an entirely nu dimension....BM is a living core of cre8vity.
2 bad Marvl refused 2 let KG do a mini starring Tchaka, BM & Bradley....it wud hv bn SUPREMATIC!
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[QUOTE][B]Originally postd by Joe Acro:[/B]
Namor, I can't give you. He's never been consistently isolationist. Black Bolt and the Inhumans do indeed practice isolationism. But again, we hit that barrier of accessibility. The Inhumans were outside society, by the decisions of their ancestors. After interacting with the world, they decided to retreat from it and go to the moon, splitting themselves from the world in the much the same way as the Eternals. People have complained about this decision, largely because it closes the characters off for frequent use as well, but also because it limits the kinds of stories one can tell. It's really cool that Marvel had a city on the moon, sure. Even better that it's filled with crazy superpowers. But it's always been a blow to the Inhumans' significance.
Ultimately, the Inhumans did open up channels and remove their isolationism, just not in regards to Earth--they went to space and became a galactal superpower. Now they've come home and, with Attilan destroyed, have no choice but to interact with Earth, its nations, and its people. It's a bold new direction.
[B]I think Wakanda suffers from the similar problem. We got used to them being on their own, but after so many years, it'd be nice to see a different approach.[/B][/QUOTE]
Well gvn dat d whole open interctn with d rest of earth has alrdy bn full emplyd 2 d Inhumans we/SZ wud suggestn & quite honestly prefr Wakanda 2 only interact with othr nations on a clandestine lvl.....so it isnt exactly a fully open interctn with d rest of d wrld but still nt entirely closed either.
And d main reasn Wakanda is so isolationist in d 1st plc is bcuz of hw rampantly outsiders kp trying 2 invade dem AND d wrld cloak-n-dagger politix & ulterior motives btwn nations & [B]within[/B] diffrnt supapwrs(superheros & supavillains included)...y wud dey/Wakanda wnt 2 expose demselves 2 all dat?
And wudnt Wakanda b exposing demselves 2 mo villany &easier access 2 those with cruel intentns 4 Wakanda if dey fully interactd with d outside wrld dan dey do now or @ least hv bn in isolatn?
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[QUOTE=SilverZeal;92306]Dat "bottom of d ocean" is BM's base located in d marianna trench (deepest point on earth...der r all kinds of [I]'fish'[/I]der dat hv nvr bn documntd & is surrounded with mystery) which is situatd within d dragon's traingle/devil's sea (basically d bermuda traingle of d pacific).
Dat "& he is relevnt" 2 us/SZ/BM fans bcuz he aint a US focusd supahero but a "global protectr" & d fact dat he's a father of 3, widower, Uatu's closest bud, has koo l but unik specific non-altering pwrs(antimatta is supreme), intellect, riddled with moral dilemas & emotional trauma whr neithr his immense supapwrs nor his intellect can help & he isnt perfect but prone 2 mk mistkes(which mks his very human unlyk d d all-perfect-godly-wanna-b's &BM tks full accountability 4 his actions nt blaming sum [I]'alter-ego'[/I]:wink: 4 his problms ) but he still ventures on mks his fascin8g in addtn 2 discvring an entirely nu elemnt as well as an entirely nu dimension....BM is a living core of cre8vity.
2 bad Marvl refused 2 let KG do a mini starring Tchaka, BM & Bradley....it wud hv bn SUPREMATIC![/QUOTE]
I used BM as an example that even if he was without a base of operations, or government ties he is still BM. BP could be the same way. Both could be relevent across the multiverse. For that charator type BM is my favorite (superman archtype). Take away the anti matter generator (that he is) he is still a super genius , olympic athlete, a highly dedicated person, that can see the big picture.
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Part 2 of my analysis on Priest's run.
[URL="http://robreedwrites.wordpress.com/2014/05/18/journey-through-comics-priests-black-panther-part-2/"]Journey Through Comics: Priest's Black Panther Part 2[/URL]
As I mention at the beginning of the post, I bit off a little more than I can chew, and I'm having some formatting issues that I'm working on, so this just goes over issue #2 right now. I'm going to try to get that solved for next week.
Once again, I'm definitely open to any observations/criticisms. One of my own concerns is that I'm focusing heavily on Ross right now, which I want to do to show what he's functioning as narrative-wise, but hopefully not at the expense of everything else. I'm hoping it will get more balanced as he fades more into the background.